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dostr4:
Maresca OUT.

Egbon nateevs please why did we lose & why are we mostly out-number during transitions from opps. Despite inverting fullbacks Plus why is ur oga a block head seams you're his PA.

The structure of the team is weak. Enzo/Caicedo is a weak midfield. Palmer is a 10. That leaves just Caicedo trying to Marshall all the opposition running at our goal. Which is one of the reasons why we must invert.

The board made a bad gamble on Enzo, and insist that that investment must not go to waste. Maresca must man up, drop Enzo and fortify that midfield. Unfortunately though, we sent Andrey and Ugochukwu out. Andrey would have been a brilliant option to have now.

On top of this we have extremely unproductive wingers. If you have weak wingers, then we are not scoring, and we become easy to shut down as a whole team.

Last season I said we had a tactical problem. This season, we have a personnel problem.

MorataFC:
No single shot on target.

Tonight:
I think some people owe Jackson an apology, starting from me:
Jackson I'm sorry.

It's good to at least see this. Not only is Jackson crucial to us playing well in attack, he is responsible for a lot of the attacking freedom that Palmer gets, that in turn allows him to be productive. His work rate is underrated. He's also caring the weight of the ineffective song play we have.

Replace Jackson with lazy bums like Nkunku, and Palmer seems buried with work.

At least we won't see screenshots and gifs tonight of missed opportunities.

Singapore1:
Nobody has blindly support Jackson here, we know he is average but despite being average he is our second best player. This is also the very first time we will be losing by 3 goals this season. You can't claim to watch chelsea this season and no think Jackson is the least of our problem. We have Full backs who can't support, we have CB who are like snowflakes , yey Jackson is our problem

Matter wey don settle since when? Na last season I stand gidigba for the matter.

Ibime:
Next time Nateevs tries to defend Maresca here ehn

Hehehehe. You see as I dey background dey watch?

Agenda jam agenda. Na who go agend pass?

Same ball, Sancho no fit control.

Nawa o. This is strong thing.

When we say he defrauded the government, there is a reason for it. When we say he lied over 4000 times in 4 years, there's a reason for it.

When we say he created a meme coin and defrauded his supporters, there's a reason for it.

When say he received more more than $10m from the Turkish government, there is a reason for it. When we say he received over $8m to his various businesses, there's a reason for it.

There is reason he didn't declared his tax returns. There's is reason he over valued his net worth by over 100% ...

The list goes on. There is always a reason for it. It's not fraudulent practice. It's the Art of the Deal.

basilico:
nateevs .
Here is the link .

https://www.foxnews.com/media/eric-trump-secret-service-charges-washington-post-report

We could go out and sell a room for $1,500 a night," Eric Trump went on. "There's very limited rooms, Mar-a-Lago's the hottest place in the world. We charge them cost, effectively housekeeping cost -- and they go out and say we charge $650 for a room, which was [actually] many rooms."

Eric also remarked that the organization has lost "a fortune" on rooms occupied by government employees and reiterated that he makes "zero profit on anything government-related

I've got a very good memory if you didn't know

Sir, please don't quote FoxNews for me abeg. It may not be apparent to you, but it is the same reason I don't use use MSNBC or CNN as proof of any anti-Trump talking points.

basilico:
Trump vacations in his hotels Where are the SS agents supposed to stay?
If he didn't stay in his hotels where you want him to stay? At Jeff Bezos mansion? Or Epstein's?
Democrat witch-hunt started when they took over the house. This is not news that had you running naked to the living room shouting eureka.

https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/news/press-releases/oversight-democrats-new-report-proves-trump-used-his-dc-hotel-take

There is a video of Donald Trump Jr saying they charged at cost for accomodations of the presidential entourage.Ill dig it up and cc you
It would be a blot on SS if anyone deemed sensitive to require it's protection is not provided for.

MAGAnut. No they should come and stay at my house.

Is that the bone of contention, or that he was charging up to $1100 per night per room to the SS, same rooms that were selling at $248 dollars on the same nights?

You want to bring a video? Hehehehe. The video is for you. These receipts are public records.

Will you also bring the video where Eric Trump said SS was Infact staying for free?

You are embracing and excusing unprecedented corruption with your hands and feet, but shouting Elon Musk over the place.....Hypocritical is a nice word I swear.

basilico:
So how much was it in total. If I'm right the total cost paid to Trump was around 3-4 times his 4 years salary that he donated to charities.
Biden spent 40% of his time on vacation, was he housing the tens of secret service agents or they were being put up in a $50 a night hotel ?
Hunter Biden rented a $20K a month mansion, secret service rented $30k monthly nearby to protect him. This was at tax payer expenses.
You never complained about this, forever hold your peace

I'm told TDS meaning has been changed to mean those who support Trump thanks to our resident idiot.

There is an obvious problem with you guys. I, do not like Biden and by extension I do not care for Hunter Biden. If you want to go ahead and prosecute both under the law for excesses they had in government, be my guest. I do not give a phucking care in this world. I am consistent.


But to say that because they had excesses, then it's okay for Trump to steal money from the government to the tune of millions, then it's fine, is the mother of all insanity.

Look at how you started out ..... almost like with the tone of "ehn how much be de money sef wey you dey shout" ..... don't you see it makes a mockery of this whole DOGE nonsense going on. That everybody is in on it, but they are making the loudest noises? And no, you are not right. It was never 3 x 4 times his salary. I highlighted the various reasons why the extent of the fraud could not be brought to light.

Don't you worry that if he blocked all documentation in his first term from proving the extent of this fraud, then he's doing his best with this DOGE nonsense to make sure every bit of evidence gets wiped out?

Don't you worry that if they got away with this fraud first time around, then this time, he's already doing it again..... this time around with Secret Service protection for Musk as well at his and Trump's own properties?

Is this the America you want? They did it, so we can do worse?

PART 2

@Android17

To bring this back home to the actual topic ......how can you then in good faith, knowing what I know, continue to argue those points? You can see that this is just a fraudulent guy from head to toe. How can you take for gospel anything he says about money?

You say, he didn't receive salary for 4 years. But the constitution requires that he gets paid by the Treasury. He got paid. FACTS! He then announced through the White House that he gave "gifts" to certain agencies. But did those agencies receive those payments? There is no documentation ever shown to prove this fact.

Matter of fact, for the last one year of his presidency he stopped announcing any gifts. But remember your own words, "he didn't receive a single penny". That is a flat out lie. By the guy who said it, and all the people who parrot the same point. It's just not true.

Furthermore, this whole I didn't receive $400k salary thing, was a major distraction from the major grifts that were happening. Dude was acting in public like he gave all his 400k away, but stealing way more money from taxpayers and his own government in hotel room rates.



And to Forbes.....

How can Forbes accurately determine all Trump really made during his Presidency when all earnings and deals were shrouded in secrecy? His accountants, Mazars, refused to share documents, and he refused to release Tax returns for his entire Presidency.

Most of Trump's wealth at the time was from Real Estate and everyone's real estate devalued in 2021 due to COVID, and so, his publicly known were marked down.

This is not to say that Trump did not profit from his Presidency, did not try to, or that Forbes lied. See it as the same way Forbes cannot put Putin on the top 10 wealthiest Billionaires, even though most Russians see Putin this way. If it's not official, Forbes cannot report it. This does not mean it doesn't exist.



And that is why I tell you it all comes down to why he lied about his valuation in the first place. If a man will deliberately up his valuation by over 100% for a certain purpose, he can hide his actual valuation for another purpose!

Meanwhile, my original point on the topic was that it is all about the money. If he did all that in his first term, what would he do, now that he has full control of the government?

Android17:
TDS makes liars out of men.

Forbes said his networth reduced between 2016-20. You're arguing with Forbes but calling Trump a liar

How would a rational person say Trump used that position to enrich himself?

How? I will tell you.


To first understand anything at all, you must answer the question, why would anyone at all deliberately publicly announce an increase in their net worth by a factor of over 100% (Trump $9bn, Forbes $4bn)?

The answer lies in that person's attitude to money. Simple. Most times, such a person seeks aggrandisement of some nature. To deny this is to continue with dishonestly in this debate.

In January 2021, The Supreme Court struck two cases (Trump v. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington........ and Trump v. District of Columbia) - from the US Courts of Appeal 2nd and 4th Circuits respectively, on the grounds that cases were moot, seeing as DJT was no longer President. SCOTUS did not engage the actual technicalities of the cases themselves.

The actual contents of the case are related to how Donald broke the emolument provisions of the constitution.

Trump as P45, charged the Secret Service, many times, over 400% room rate at the Trump properties. This is no conspiracy. Receipts of these purchases were made available at the request over a FOI act, as well as his accountants, Mazars, releasing documents under a subpoena.

In many instances, Trump was charging the government for his own stay at his own properties, and listen to this, ....... even for days when he was not at the properties.

But you are asking me .....How would a rational person say Trump used that position to enrich himself?

The actual question should be, how can a rational person not?

As a matter of fact, the extent of the grift was and probably will never be wholly known because,

1. Republicans regained control of the House and discontinued all subpoenas, and further disclosures of documents.....
2. Mazars stonewalled - releasing only 20% of requested docs till date
3. Secret Service never released the total number of rooms acquired at each Trump property, on each visit through P45 tenure, due to such data being classified. Naturally.

Therefore till date, we don't know the total amount Trump stole from his own government. The estimation from the few docs obtained via FOI act and subpoena already put this at millions.

But Eric Trump said the SS always stayed for free. A big lie that DJT himself never sought to correct.


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In other cases, P45 was being sued for received payments to his companies from different countries totalling about $8m from the limited documents obtained. The total amounts are assumed to higher but because of the same reasons above, further docs could not be obtained.

We also had Republicans all running to book rooms at Mar a lago and other properties of his during this first tenure.

I cannot list the extent of clear cases of fraud due to brevity.


But you are asking me .....How would a rational person say Trump used that position to enrich himself?

Really?

If you want to be honest, you would realise you were making these statements out of sheer ignorance of what really happened.

Android17:
E-DIOT. They quoted the Forbes you tried to quote. If Trump was worth N50 in 2016, was to be receiving a salary of $400K/yr for 4 years, yet by 2021 he is now worth N30. It will take a blind and deranged fool to spew dumb conspiracies about enriching himself using his office.

Engage brain SHEEP. "...yet by 2021 he is now worth XXXXX....." is the koko. Forbes historical documentation of Trump's self worth is based on falsehood from Trump

Because Forbes can only go by what he says he has, he can overvalue for one reason today (obtaining loans), and undervalue for another reason tomorrow (obtaining votes). Therefore, talks about Trump's net worth should be avoided altogether, let alone trying to paint a picture that he lost money because he served. There is no verifiable fact.

But you are a SHEEP. You cannot think this.

Android17:
Don't you see that your irrational hatred for Trump has made you deranged? What will it matter if Trump was worth $1 bln if it contracted by the time he left office in 2021? That's why I redirected you to the fact that the actual figure was immaterial. Nevermind that the article from CNN quoted Forbes and even listed a figure lower than what you have there.

Mr SHEEP is back. Let's go back to where you started. You weren't just making an observation. You were stating that Trump and Elon have no need to enrich themselves because for instance, as P45, Trump's Networth reduced.

You were Infact, trying to make a statement that he made a sacrifice on behalf of his country. I have heard this shit from thousands of MAGAnuts before. You know they are trying to do that shiit again, when they mention that he did not get paid as well. So don't try to dodge your intentions now.


Therefore I must step in and ask you as I do all SHEEP, how do know? Because Trump said so?

Did you see his payslips? Did you read his financial publication? The world's accepted arbiter of financial estimation say verbatim that he overvalued himself by 100%. The moment that happens, sane folks invalidate any talks in between.


But now you want to accept half way that it doesn't matter, but at the same time intend to say that it Infact reduced. How can we say the start point doesn't matter but it definitely reduced at the end? SHEEP?

Android17:

Just tell us the website, news source you will honor as a truth-o-meter so I can provide you the delta in his networth between 2016-20.



Your own type of TDS is unbecoming. What was your mother's excuse for not terminating you again?

There is none! Zilch! Nada! ..... that will be acceptable as a truth-o-meter. Absolutely none. .

The only reason you sheepishly continued this debate is because you never knew that he never published his true net worth. He always lied about it, and by a factor of 100% in many cases.

Some of those around him say he was worth like 2bn max and even they could not be sure.

But you want me to believe first his true self worth as published by whom? And then that said self worth reduced? What was it? 8bn? 6bn? 3bn? 2bn? And what did it reduce by..... and to what?

But he said it, so it must be true. Alakori eranko.


You come dey invoke my dead mother on top matter wey you no even sabi. If I take her memory curse your head ehn?

Android17:
Nateevs, you're doing a fine job brandishing how stupid you are. Let me give you more rope to hang your ugly head with.

So, you didn't know Trump's Networth in 2016. Won't accept it contracted in the years he was POTUS. Won't accept CNN, nor Political facts. Won't even have accepted it from same Trump himself whom you call a liar. But insist that, I have to justify the contraction in his networth - by some means.

Just tell us the website, news source you will honor as a truth-o-meter so I can provide you the delta in his networth between 2016-20.

After that is proven, will you then accept that, you are the dull lemming who thinks he gets brownie points for calling others sheeple, when it itself, is the quintessential stupid sheeple? The very one with blemishes not fit for use in your herd. You're diametrically opposed to anything Trump, you will challenge it even when it is irrefutable.

Your own type of TDS is unbecoming. What was your mother's excuse for not terminating you again?

Hehehe THE SHEEP is back. I specifically asked you for a reference point in 2016 for Forbes, you think I don't know what I am saying. If you were not a cultist sheep, you would have sidestepped this argument because even Forbes enlists Trump as a perennial fraudulent self worth estimator. But you wouldn't know this, because are a dick-sucking sheep.

For years, those who know Trump know that he overvalues his self worth every time, depending on the deal he's chasing. And so for years, Forbes have disagreed about what Trump is worth. They have to always use estimates, because he never publishes his real worth. This is straight from Forbes.

But you want me to believe that his self worth reduced "because he became President" or because he said so? You don lost your mind nuccah.

At least we know the others like Basilico and Dayo come with half knowledge to this shit. The phuck are you coming here with no knowledge at all and trying to form intelligentsia with megede fegede?

Go and educate yourself on what you support before you come and debate me SHEEP.

raumdeuter:
You don't care about the process you just want to scream every single time

Point out the threat, No you can't

Is there anything that Trump has said or done that's not a trigger to you?

You have more screaming to do in the next 4yrs

Hope it's therapeutic for you

We don't give a flying phuck about process because threats and process are mutually exclusive. If you displayed this much ignorance at work, you would be demoted from sheer embarrassment.

The leader of the strongest economy and military in the world talks about annexing another nation, confirms it is real, but you are telling me I need to decipher nuance of process, because the existence of a threat is contingent upon a process of conveyance, abi?

This is what happens down a Trump rabbit hole. You all lose your fucking minds.

Android17:
Remember, we are still waiting for your response on Elon Musk's crave to raise his networth beyond the puny $80 bln it is at. Do you see how you claimed authority on his networth, and I did not challenge it?

You did not challenge anything because I never claimed authority over his self worth. What you are reading from me and what your are understanding are two different things. But I know how it's come about. It's sheep mentality.

Android17:
Why do you think this question is for me who is quoting a source of news you thoroughly believe in? If you have any contrary proofs concerning his networth, provide it. I'm agnostic about the value if it shows it contracted between 2016-20, do you agree?

Remember, we are still waiting for your response on Elon Musk's crave to raise his networth beyond the puny $80 bln it is at. Do you see how you claimed authority on his networth, and I did not challenge it?

Now tell us, if EM had those cravings as a Democrat, if there are current Billionaires who were skewed towards the democrats, and what EM was doing about his craving as a democrat?

Your problem off the bat is assuming that because I am 100% anti-Trump, then I "thoroughly believe in" CNN.

This is the problem you guys have. Sheep mentality. You think no one is capable of forming opinions about Trump, unless it's from the media.

You are on a road to even more nonsense. You think his networth reduced, then you man up and phucking show us the proof of it. ........Instead, you are using a news source that you criticize as a Trump sheep to justify nonsense for this instance of winning..... and then trying to make it look like you know me with CNN from somewhere. Don't project your insecurities on me sheep.

Give us the reference point for Trump's wealth as at 2016. Trump as a President-elect and fully sworn in never declared his self worth, so what is your source?

Because the Fuhrer said it?

basilico:
If there was any wrong doing then in January 2028,Trump will pardon himself and anyone else he fancies.
You should never have voted for democrats .In 2020 Trump would have pardoned himself and anyone else he fancied , he didn't.They jumped on him ,trying to kill him when they couldn't stop him. They screamed that he couldn't issue pardons then
Diversion. How come we knew Kyle Rittenhouse shoe size but we know nothing about the two Trump attempted assassins?

Another instance of democrats fuckups. Harry Reid removed the 60 Senate vote requirement for SCOTUS judges vote thinking a republican would never be president. Ginsburg refused to step down thinking Clinton would have the honours of replacing her.

Democrats are just stupid, crying over spilt milk.
Every president has people who are out to support him in return for something.At least with Trump it won't be USAID money

What are you typing? Look what I typed, look what your are replying with.

Android17:
I completely understand your skepticism. I am citing CNN here. Should resonate within your echo chamber. I assume.

So even CNN agree that his wealth shrunk as the 45th.

Political facts says true on him constantly donating his salaries during his 2016-20 presidency.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1341/take-no-salary/

You might have another means of verifying his net worth or how much he scrubbed from his campaign donations. I assume you will present irrefutable evidence to validate your disbelief.

Sir Sheep, at least do some diligence. Go find the reference point for Trump's Networth in 2016 that Forbes was quoting. Was it an official declaration from Trump?

Android17:
Forget my own claim. What about Basilico's post?

Now we should forget your own claim. You don't understand the point of pedigree. Like sheep like Trump.

You didn't research the proof but were quick to jump on it, just because it's in opposition to Trump.

Show the evidence!

Android17:
Hope I'm summarizing adequately. Trump did not earn a penny off his $400K/yr in 2016-2020 and his net worth actually contracted after his presidency. Then, EM is only worth a puny $80 bln so he must steal power to consolidate his wealth. Was he doing this when he was a Democrat? Are there other billionaires who might have done same under the previous Administration? I'm really interested in knowing Trump's secret. How he skips the salaries that Obummer and Biden craved so much and stole so much but lost a good portion of his wealth during his presidency - all at the same time.

Trump's wealth never shrunk during his first presidency because there was no official declaration of Trump's net worth before his first term. The only President in recent history to never declare his networth before assuming power. But you wouldn't know this because are a sheep. A cultist.

Trump told you he didn't earn $400k/year because he needs a good story to keep the sheep at the base. You don't know this, I don't know this. You only know because yeah "the Fuhrer said so" ...

What he might or might not have earned is a side show for what was actually happening. Check how much he earned from the backdoor via the Trump.org campaign sheep.

It's all about the money sheep.

basilico:
Trump joining politics in my opinion was mainly because Obama blasted him at a White House correspondent dinner.
He had been saying the same things about America being exploited by Japan and other nations from late eighties .Later he was publicly miffed at fully loaded ships docking at American ports and leaving with empty containers.The so called Panamax and Post Panamax ships. Oprah Winfrey in an interview almost begged him to run.. later when he did she declared, "Donald, I'm with her". The witch.
If he didn't join politics he would be playing golf and having a blast. I've heard haters saying that he wanted his executive jet be gold plated but was rebuffed because it would increase the weight.Gold is 19.3 gm per cc.

On this he ranks top if not the only one who became President to improve America and not self enrichment. His advisors, aides and friends are in it for the money, they have to get their pound of beef for their support to him. Noone joins politics out of philanthropy. Apart from




Trump.

Thank you for replying to my "follow the money" post. We've got new news for you cultist.

3 hours before Trump launched his meme coin, someone placed a $1,096,109 million bet 3 hours before Meme coin launch.

You see? In normal times, this is the sort of confidence that nobody has because the SEC will be all over your ass in minutes. But enter the Trump administration.... what SEC? Everything was preemptively arranged, sheep.

It's all about the money, sheep. It's all about the money.

Android17:
Tucker Carlson said Trump was offered $5 bln not to run for president. He turned it down.

Elon Musk is worth $400 bln and loves money so much he fought Sam Altman for trying to monetize OpenAI.

These fools have one theory or the other for Trump that never pans out. But give them accurate theories (based on irrefutable evidence) that will come to pass almost prophetically, you'll be labeled a conspiracy theorist. In the same thread.

So funny.

You and Tucker are liars. Tucker said this only because Trump told him. And Trump never proved this. But you are sheep, so must believe it.

Elon Musk is $400bn rich only by equity. Mostly Tesla. Tesla's share are seriously overvalued in P/E ratio when compared for instance, to serious market competition like BYD. This means, sheep, that if Tesla crashes today, Elon could be only $80bn rich tomorrow.

If you have a billionaire mindset, then you never want this to happen to you. So yes you will crave power, buy it, steal it if you must. It's consolidation.

Don't tell me about Elon's lack of love for wealth. That's talk for the sheep. And yes, that's why we are following the money for Elon and Trump.

cococandy:
They want a dictator. They’ve always wanted that. Remember they cheered him on when he said he was going to be a dictator from day one.

After he said that with his own mouth, anyone who repeated it was called a fear monger . Like his own word do not have any credibility.

The same people who criticise others, asking them to go and protest in China, are slowly building their own Dictator.

They are making a mockery of the same freedoms they enjoy. Because you don't agree with others, you want to burn it all to the ground. Actively encouraging and participating in the defiance of court orders. But you want your freedoms at the same time.

budaatum:
Fill the swamps?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-antibribery-law-pause-enforcement-b2695757.html

I literally just posted this same news a few posts ago. Did you see the other post of mine with Elon Musk signing a deal with Visa for X Accounts? And you wonder why the CFPB.

People like you and I saw this coming down the line. They are busy cheering. Banana Republic loading in 4D.


It's free-for-all at this point. Anything goes. At least Banana Republic nations already know how to navigate inefficiencies. Sit back and watch the torpedo effect of this nonsense they are having. Many like Dayo have lived for decades in the US in true sanity, but it seems they have now lost their minds, and completely forgotten what chaos is like.

They think I am fear-mongering when I am tell them it's coming to a bus stop near them very soon.

raumdeuter:
What exactly did he say that's making you angry?

Did he make any threat that you can point out

Trump says he will like Canada to be a part of the US, you don't know the process nor how he intends to do it but you are already angry at what you don't know

Just like you have convinced yourself anything Trump does or says is wrong without even knowing the details

Well there will be more and more things for you to be angry about in the next 4yrs

I don't give a phuck about the process it takes Uncle. If the leader of the largest economy and military in the world says another sovereign nation should be annexed.... and when asked to clarify, they double down and say it is real, other nations consider that a direct threat. Simple as ABC.

If you like, gaslight yourself into Jupiter. It is what it is. A threat.

Follow the money. It's all about money. It's all about absolute power to consolidate wealth.

These useful idiots think they are making the world a better place. Their Fuhrers are making themselves richer at Americans' expense. You wanna know why they are cutting those agencies?... Follow the money.

raumdeuter:
Think it through, what will be the process? The US will invade Canada or what? Unless Canada Parliament vote to willingly become a part of the US

Are you wiling to put a bet that in 4yrs time, Canada will still be a separate country

Just say you are supporting the Fuhrer, whether he says dumb things or not.

It is not our concern what the process might be. First you said it was a joke, and then they proved to you in own words when asked verbatim "is this a real thing?".... then you said it was the media..... now you are twisting yourself into pretzels.

Your guy is saying things and telling the world it's not a threat in his own words, without giving a phuck about process. But you are here battling with us because we choose to take him for his words.

Just say the Fuhrer is right always. And then we all know where you stand.