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Politics › Re: Hausa People are to BLAME For Nigeria's Woes - IBB, Abacha, Danjuma, Atiku,Turai by nduchucks: 4:21pm On Mar 04, 2010
Katsumoto:
I get the point that you are trying to make but please, do not compare Balarabe Musa to Gani. How many Northern progressives were jailed and hunted by IBB and Abacha like Gani, Beko, Falana, Soyinka, Agbakoba were? To my knowledge, Balarabe Musa and Col Umar were never jailed incessantly. It is easy to criticise your brother (IBB & Abacha) when you know that he would just ignore you. I applaud Musa and Umar for their progressiveness but they did not experience the same treatment as their southern colleagues.
You say you get the point that Jarus was trying to make on the one hand, and admonish him on the other, not to compare Northern progressives with Southern progressives such as Beko, Falana, and others. Why not? Jarus' point that there probably exists progressives in the North in as many numbers as there are in the South remains valid.

Does being jailed make one more of a progressive than others who have not experienced jail? Please explain your point because its not yet making sense to me.
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Absent At FEC Meeting by nduchucks: 3:58pm On Mar 04, 2010
One of the most difficult things to do in a public forum is have a discussion with intellectuals and dimwits alike. Dimwits don't know how to stay focused of the point you are making but they randomly decide to create useless points and provide counter points to issues that have already been flogged to death. Sigh.
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Absent At FEC Meeting by nduchucks: 3:47pm On Mar 04, 2010
Fhemmmy: You, of all people should know that when Nigerians taste power, they will do anything to keep that power. The people arround Yar'Adua are simply fighting to maintain relevance and hang on to Power. Its no longer about Yar'Adua. I'm glad you too think that Yar'Adua, the man, is a good human being.
Fhemmmy:
Aint beaf, so no beef. . . . . .But read the colored in your statement.
Is yaradua not guilty of same?
If you believe that Yar'Adua is personally guilty of fighting to hang on to power from his sick bed, then I'm afraid our conversation is over and I'll have to admit that your intellectualization of these events is way beyond my comprehension.

Have a great day.
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Absent At FEC Meeting by nduchucks: 3:27pm On Mar 04, 2010
Fhemmmy:
Yes, he is a good man, yes, he is decent, but being decent is not just character, but like Beaf said, how did he found himself around all he is surrounded with?
I respect Yaradua as human but not as a leader, i am sorry
Read the bolded portion - You are in agreement with me. So what's your beef?   smiley
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Absent At FEC Meeting by nduchucks: 3:25pm On Mar 04, 2010
Beaf:
You need to explain your position, because Nigeria is falling apart under his watch.

I already said I am tempted to believe that he might have been a good man. The thing that really shatters that conception is the sort of people he hung out with. How did he come to be with such people if he wasn't like them or is it that he has always been too weak healthwise?
You, of all people should know that when Nigerians taste power, they will do anything to keep that power. The people arround Yar'Adua are simply fighting to maintain relevance and hang on to Power. Its no longer about Yar'Adua.  I'm glad you too think that Yar'Adua, the man, is a good human being.
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Absent At FEC Meeting by nduchucks: 3:20pm On Mar 04, 2010
Fhemmmy:
I am sorry to say it is the other way round, Sir.

Tell us what made yaradua a great leader . . . . . .
If you can tell us what he has done to make him a great leader, i will start a thread to apologize to you.

BTW . . . .Remember, i am not insulting him nor even you, cos i like to debate and not fight.

E-thuggery is not my thing
I did not claim that Yar'Adua is a great leader, I said he is a good and decent person.  You sabi read at all? Anyway, no vex say I call you olodo, you be correct guy, my guy.  smiley

The rakumin dajij is Beaf.
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Absent At FEC Meeting by nduchucks: 3:14pm On Mar 04, 2010
Beaf:
@ndu_chucks

I am tempted by the "Yar'Adua is a good guy" thing, but wisdom says; "birds of a feather, flock together".
How come, everybody he is sorrounded wth seems to be obnoxious? Even his own elder brother didn't support his governorhip bid (he initially threw his considerable influence behind someone else), because he wondered if the governorship was really Turai's dream.
Yar'Adua's handlers, his brother, Turai, Fhemmy and Beaf, are not Yar'Adua.  Yar'Adua is the most decent human being that has ever become Nigeria's ruler in the past 35 years at least. if you have evidence to the contrary, please present it.

@Fhemmy, you be olodo, rakumin dajij.
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Absent At FEC Meeting by nduchucks: 3:03pm On Mar 04, 2010
@Fhemmmy, you dey find trouble. I go momentarily give you a pass, but you dey press ya luck. Try to focus on my statements and address them accordingly instead of bringing up issues you know nothing about. I no wan fight, I don warn you.

If you believe its in good taste to continue to kick the most decent human being we've ever had as a President, while he is down and gravely ill, then that is your palaver. I will not participate in that evil act.

I repeat, let the man be. Enough is enough.
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Absent At FEC Meeting by nduchucks: 2:46pm On Mar 04, 2010
Fhemmmy:
How do u know that?
Why are you talking like a simpleton? Do you really believe that Yar'Adua is in a position to direct his handlers and NL posters to perform the deplorable acts I mentioned?

Take ya time o, if na joke make you stop. That question you asked is quite revealing, to say the least.
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Absent At FEC Meeting by nduchucks: 2:32pm On Mar 04, 2010
naijaking1:
What a sensitive guy?
Where were you when he Yardua was reported to be walking on his legs, enjoying kunu with his wife, and doing all sorts of crazy and unimaginable things huh
Where were you earlier today when "his cousin" told Aljezeehra that he met Yardua drinking tea, walking and talking with his family? Wasn't that insensitive, or politically expedient for you?
The insensitivity of some of the posters on this thread and distasteful acts of some of Yar'Adua's handler's are equally deplorable and reprehensible.

Yar'Adua himself has absolutely nothing to do with these distastful acts. He is a good man and decent human being.
Politics › Re: CBN To Fund Power Projects With N500bn Loan by nduchucks: 2:24pm On Mar 04, 2010
netotse:
nigeria isn't that organised, the businesses will draw up their plans and stuff, PHCN will be ignored as much as possible(wot purpose are they serving? the execs will jst be trying to see what they can gain from the whole thing) it's the NERC that they'll deal majorly with.
Its time for Jonathan to take the USA up on their offer to provide technical expertise to Nigeria and help us generate 10,000MW by 2011.

The US Government has already comitted $500,000 towards through the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) t  this end and are have kicked-off a two-week programme to highlight its activities in the country.

This is a great development:

[size=16pt]US technical assistance to aid Nigeria's 10,000mw target[/size]

Determined to help the country achieve its target of increasing electricity generation to 10,000 megawatts (mw), the United States government has offered assistance by kicking-off a two-week programme to highlight its activities in the country.
Lack of expertise and not just funding is often touted as a major gap in the nation's power sector; hence this support, valued at about half a million dollars through the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) -funded Nigerian Energy, and Climate Change Project (NECC), which seem to be just what the sector needs.

Signing a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with the Independent Power Producers Association of Nigeria (IPPAN) in Abuja, Robin Sanders, US Ambassador to Nigeria, noted that the move is expected to go a long way towards helping Nigeria overcome the major constraints to increase electricity generation, reduce the practice of gas flaring, and improve clean energy practices.

"I am pleased that the US government is able to collaborate with the government of Nigeria and with Independent Power Producers Association of Nigeria (IPPAN) to implement one of its top priorities; increasing electricity generation to 10,000mw by 2011. We are honoured to help Nigeria find a way to generate the electricity demanded by the Nigerian people, through the private sector," she maintained.

Though some may scoff at this, considering the Federal Government's failed promise to achieve 6,000mw by December 2009, others say this effort, indeed, has better promising success outlook, as the assistance engages the private sector directly with the technical assistance to be executed by NEXTANT, a subsidiary of BECHTEL, a company with great expertise and experience working in Iraq, among others.

In this vain, Barth Nnaji called on the government to work towards liberalisation and not commercialisation if the sector is to move forward.

"The sector should be transferred to the private sector because we can bring in appropriate management, more trained personnel, and money that would improve power plants, distribution networks. They should go straight to privatisation and not commercialization, which is just the same game in another guise where the government is still in charge," he noted.

"We strongly advocate that government should pursue reforms in the power sector with vigour to achieving the intended objective. We in IPPAN would like to match government's commitment to creating enabling structures in the sector with concrete actions."


Source: http://www.businessdayonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8988:us-technical-assistance-to-aid-nigerias-10000mw-target&catid=68:power&Itemid=308
Politics › Re: NNPC Reform Irreversible, Says Jonathan by nduchucks: 1:40am On Mar 04, 2010
Fhemmmy:
Common guys, let us have fun discussing.
Who is stopping you from having fun? These people are adults and I submit to you that even you are better off by the contents of the dialogue.

If ethnic bigotry is identified, it must be exposed. If a person is accused of being a bigot, he/she should be able to defend him/herself or futher expose him/herself as a true ethnic bigot in the process.

What if I accuse you of being a 98Ib weakling because you are a peacelover who is not enjoying a fun exposé? cheesy
Politics › Re: Yar'adua Absent At FEC Meeting by nduchucks: 12:44am On Mar 04, 2010
Most of the posts here are insensitive and in very very bad taste. Will you people allow Yar'Adua to fall ill and get well peacefully.

You are beginning to sound like insensitive and obsessed ethnic bigots. I bet none of you will claim to be a Northerner. Yar'Adua is a good man, let him be.
Politics › Re: Yar’adua: Impeachment, Resignation Not Options – Govs by nduchucks(op): 5:53pm On Mar 03, 2010
Sky Blue:
I have infact contacted my rep and I have discussed the issue with him. The house of rep and the senate is meant to be a democracy, and convincing my own rep does not get motions or bills passed. The fact that you think people in government being privvy to some information might make them act in the best interest of the people (no offence inteded), shows either an aggressive willingness to ignore the truth, or just plain naivette.
Would you be kind enough to tell us the reason why your rep did not initiate impeachment proceedings? Iit only takes one rep to do the initiation?

By the way, there is nothing naive in acknowledging that some information available to your reps may be classified for security reasons. Even your governments in diaspora keep classified documents away from you.
Politics › Re: Yar’adua: Impeachment, Resignation Not Options – Govs by nduchucks(op): 5:19pm On Mar 03, 2010
Sky Blue:
What has my being in or out of Nigeria got to do with it? Save your presumptions of my whereabouts and let us focus on the topics. Perhaps most of the people who post on the forum live in diaspora because they don't have to deal with NEPA and fuelling generator.

We'll go to the constitution and find out ways to deal with it? That is your answer to a possible scenario like the one I highlighted? Just like we "dealt" with the current "complication"? We might as well make up laws as we go along in order to save some man embarrassment and shame. It is not about creating credible and stable procedures that further entrench democratic principles anymore. It is not about the dividends of democracy. No. It is about sparing Yar Adua embarassment.

Despite reports to the contrary, Yar Adua has been out of contact with hsi government and was this way for over three months and such still is the case; I don't know if the gravity of the situation has not actually hit you. The "transfer" of executive power to Johnathan was not transmitted by Yar Adua, so for all we know he could be on some beach in the Bahaman, meanwhile he is being paid to do a job. Ministers at one point could not even lie anymore and say they had not heard from or seen the president. The former AGF Aondoakaa on an interview with CNN in his defence said he had not seen the president, but he knows somebody who has heard (Johnathan) from the president. Johnathan has not come out to say he has seen the president even. For peacesake, are we running a market or the federal government of a nation? Isn;t it absolutely laughable and even vile for someone to take such things into account and still claim "respect for the seat of the presidency" as a defence for keeping things the way they are? Where else does such nonsense happen? A VP normally stays behind in the country when the President is out of the country (as a security guarantee), so are we saying we are going to flout that and ban Johnathan from travelling till next year? You really believe such nonsense is not worthy of impeachment? Why must it be "disgrace" to get rid of a non functioning entity? What good is it doing the nation? The presidency is not a sympathy chair, you go there to do the work. We don't even know if Nigeria is alive and still haven;t heard from him, but of course in your estimation any old thing will do to keep the status quo, including possibly a dead man, right?
We have a democracy that is at its infancy, I'm afraid we'll have to work within its constitutional provisions. It is better than living under military rule. We will amend our constitution as we go along, everyone knows that it is not yet perfect.

I'm afraid no amount of emotional outburst by you or anyone else can take away Jonathan's executive powers at the moment. Go and file a lawsuit and see if you'll find a judge who will overturn the resolutions that empowered Jonathan.

Who cares whether Jonathan can travel abroad? He needs to stay in the country since he does not have much time - what the heck does he need to be running around for? He has work to do.

Once again, go and convince your senators and reps to start an impeachment proceeding. They have all the information you have and are privy to other classified information, so if they believe they'll secceed, they should try to impeach Yar'Adua. This is how democracy works, you of all people should know this.
Politics › Re: Yar’adua: Impeachment, Resignation Not Options – Govs by nduchucks(op): 4:48pm On Mar 03, 2010
Sky Blue:
At the part in bold: you know this how? When last did you contact your rep or senator? It seems Nigerian presidency has turned into an issue of sparing hurt feeling and saving people embarassment. It is about sending a message that such rubbish would not be tolerated anymore. One question for you. What would happen if something happens to Johnathan tomorrow? Why the love for complications and difficult situations? With issues bothering on forged signatures, being absent for over three months and still not being seen, etc, Yar Adua has already committed acltions worthy of impeachment. But ofcourse, it is Nigeria, so it is fine if it is tolerated, as long as the man (who we are not even sure is alive) is not embarassed, right?
My observation is based on the fact that most of the noise makers admit that they live in diaspora. Do you reside in Nigeria by any chance? Are you the lone protester in front of the national assembly reportedly carrying placards?

You asked what would happen if something happens to Jonathan - well, we'll go to the constitution and find ways to deal with it. We still have the parliament who can pass resolutions.

Lastly, please list Yar'Adua's impeachable offenses. Have you contacted your senator or rep to inquire about why an impeachment proceeding has not yet been instituted?
Politics › Re: Yar’adua: Impeachment, Resignation Not Options – Govs by nduchucks(op): 4:35pm On Mar 03, 2010
vangogh:
Yaradua like the next man down the street was just overly ambitious. I have no sympathy for his incompetency, however, his illness demands sympathy.
He may have hoped that he would get better as time progresses, man is always optimistic -such is the nature of man.
Bottom line is that the current arrangement is good, we have Jonathan with all the exec power. [b]We do not need to disgrace a president from office simply
because his illness took south.[/b]Let do the votes do the talking in 2011.
I couldn't agree with you more, particularly regarding the bolded text above. Rascality and cyber thuggery have no place in governance. People who did not vote in the last election, who are doing nothing to encourage others to vote in 2011, and will not themselves vote in 2011, are coming here with dumb analysis and postulations.

Jonathan has full executive powers and about a year to use that power, lets give him a chance to do so. We do not need the drama of impeachment at this time, besides, NASS will not impeach the man. I don't see our cyber revolutionists marching to the national assembly and demanding that an impeachment proceeding be instituted.
Politics › Re: Yar’adua: Impeachment, Resignation Not Options – Govs by nduchucks(op): 2:26pm On Mar 03, 2010
vigasimple:
Unless PDP are voted out enmass the future of this nation is bleak. And another point of worrying where are all the opposition governors like AC in Lagos, Edo, Labour Party in Ondo and other ANPP govenors and non PDP governors, do they also concur to this nonsense.
Please examine the electorate, consider how informed they are about their candidates, what motivates them to vote, and their level of indifference. I think you'll quickly find that voting out PDP enmass is practically impossible in 2011.

Regarding the opposition, I suspect that they've been briefed on Yar'Adua's actual status and they know that he is not permanently incapacitated. Secondly, they may also be privy to security reports that may indicate that the threat of coup is very real, hence they decided to play it safely.

What is your objection to the compassion argument that the governors put forth? Jonathan has full executive powers at the moment, and can exercise them fully until 2011 - what is wrong with helping Yar'Adua heal by providing him with the best possible health care while Jonathan rules?

vigasimple: There is something called REVOLUTION, and unless it comes quickly and bloody, our captors will not set us free like the Herod in the bible who refuses to set the Isrealites free even when there was plague in their midst.
If you truly believe the above, what tangible contributions have you made in furtherance of this goal? Are you organizing any such revolution, or is this just wishful thinking or venting?
Politics › Yar’adua: Impeachment, Resignation Not Options – Govs by nduchucks(op): 3:55am On Mar 03, 2010
ABUJA[b]—ON a compassionate ground and sympathy for the first family, the Governors of the 36 states of the federation last night rose in strong defence against any impeachment move against ailing President Umaru Yar’Adua, insisting also that his resignation is not an option.[/b]
Rising from a crucial meeting with Acting President Goodluck Jonathan, at his official residence, Aguda House, the governors under the auspices of the Governors’ Forum also moved against any further effort by the Federal Executive Council, FEC, especially the planned submission of the report of the six-man team that visited Saudi Arabia, to FEC today at its weekly meeting.

The Acting President had told cabinet members at a meeting that preceded the last week cancelled FEC meeting that the report would be submitted today at FEC for discussion; which many believed would have ignited the invocation of the controversial section 145 of the 1999 Constitution.

Rather than encouraging his sympathizers to continue with the ongoing political fireworks with those loyal the President Yar’Adua, the Governors prevailed on Jonathan to direct his energy to the critical developmental needs of the country, as he continue to preside over the affairs of the state, in acting capacity.

The Governors also pledged their unflinching support for the various moves so far taking by Jonathan to stabilize the polity, especially the recent constitution of the 25-man Presidential Advisory Council, headed by Lt. Gen. T.Y. Danjuma; saying that they expect more of such actions in the near future.


Goodluck Jonathan and Yar'Adua in the early days of the administration.
The meeting which was billed for 8:00 pm did not however commence until at about 8:30 pm and ended at 10:00 pm also enjoined top officials of the presidency to exercise highest level of restraint in their comments both for and against President Yar’Adua and Acting President Jonathan, so as not to overheat the already heated polity.

At the end of the meeting, the Chairman of the Governors’ Forum and Kwara State Governor, Dr Bukola Saraki, Governor Akpabio of Akwa Ibom and Governor Timipreye Sylva fielded questions from State House Correspondents, saying that “we did not discuss that. We noted that the president has returned to the country and we noted the need for him to recuperate and get better soon before he can think of assuming duty”.

“For us the issue of his resignation is not an option for now. For us what is important is for us to be compassionate, to be sympathetic and to realise that anybody no matter highly placed, even if you are a Christian and you are a Pope can get ill. Thank God he is back now and he is recuperating and we are satisfied that recovery is on the way. We are praying for him.

According to Saraki, “we congratulated the acting president for stabilising the polity country at the moment. And we in return, pledged our support to the acting president during this trying time. We encouraged and said he is doing a good job and that he has the full support of the Governors Forum in this exercise.

“We agreed to have regular consultations during this period among the Forum. He also educated us on a number of issues, for example on the Presidential Advisory Council that was set up, the reason behind it and other things.

“By and large, we emphasized the need for government to work very hard to ensure that we all play our role to provide leadership at this crucial time and the need to talk to members of government to ensure that some of the comments made are well guided.

“At the end of the day, we acknowledge what he is doing and appreciate it and we said that the 36 governors will support the acting president for this country to move forward.

“We have expressed that we are happy to see the president back in the country. We have also said we should separate the two issues. The return of the president to the country is an indication that there is progress in his recovery process.

“And that does not at all deviate from what decision we took as a Forum where we all decided that a political solution to provide a resolution for the Vice President to act as the President. And that is still the position”, he said.


Source:http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/03/02/yaradua-impeachment-resignation-not-options-govs/


This was not surprising and its in good taste.
Politics › Re: Yaraduas Health By His Personal Doctor by nduchucks: 11:55pm On Mar 02, 2010
I don't believe the FEC will consider voting Yar'Adua permanently incapacitated tommorrow in light of this report. If the report is accurate, then Yar'Adua cannot be deemed permanently incapacitated - maybe temporarily incapacitated (which is not enough to trigger impeachment).

Time will reveal how ambitious Jonathan really is.
Politics › Re: Wrong Or Misguided Statement On North And South Regarding Yar'adua And His Peopl by nduchucks: 1:37pm On Mar 02, 2010
@Beaf, stop preaching to the choir. When are you going to be honest enough to admit that the main point of the article's author is valid? Could your reluctance be due to bigotry? Anyway, have a great day. I think you've been exposed already. cheesy
Politics › Re: Wrong Or Misguided Statement On North And South Regarding Yar'adua And His Peopl by nduchucks: 1:14pm On Mar 02, 2010
naijaking1:
We're no longer under military rule? Does that mean we should forget how the north used military incursions into government to creat the present disequilibrum in the polity?

After Independence, there was a tripod of regions in this country: north, east and west, after the war, the military rulers who have been mostly northerners destroyed the tripod and instead created a simple dichotomy of the north vs disorganized south.

I bring up this issue at this time, because the son of a slave owner who benefitted immensely from the sweat and blood of his father's slaves can't just say, because slavery is over, I have had no advantages over the sons of those slaves from who back he profitted.

In Nigeria, the northern based military apparatus created a constitution that permenently enslaved the southerners, created a lopsided number of states in the north to ensure perpetual northern domination in the federal legislature, and you don't want to talk about the past military rules?
Oh boy, you need to start a new thread to address the issues you've raised above. It suffices to say that the proverbial son of the slave owner did not benefit from the said slavery. Almajiris for example, remain one of the most marginalized Nigerians.

The main point of the article presented by the OP is that there is absolute political naivety of the average southerner and even the educated ones such as yourself.  The southerner (their opinion leaders as well as the common folk) would time and again take a perfectly legitimate national struggle and convert into a regional or tribal one.  

You are yet to dispute this point.
Politics › Re: Maduekwe Jets Out Again by nduchucks: 1:07pm On Mar 02, 2010
[quote author=Frank-C link=topic=406595.msg5612689#msg5612689 date=1267530179]Should they leave Yar'adua alone because it is the right thing to do or just to patronize him? In your opinion, is section 144 and impeachment unnecessary in the present situation? Do you think that he has behaved with grace that he deserve to be 'left alone'? And this idea that Jonathan cannot travel out, where does it come from. Maybe, US was without a commander in chief when Obama visited Ghana. Maybe, 'southern political naivety' as you called it in the other thread is disturbing me too.[/quote]I think at this point our president needs to be given the best healthcare we can muster, it is the right thing to do. I'm also of the opinion that even if Yar'Adua is in a comma, you will not find any medical team that will unanimously proclaim that he is permanently incapacitated. A temporary incapacitation is not enough to trigger impeachment. Besides the whole process will probably take another 6 months - a complete waste of time and resources.

You asked whether Yar'Adua has behaved with grace and the answer to that is absolutely Yes. Yar'Adua is a good man. He has not been in the position to control his handlers for obvious reasons. His handlers are the ones that have not been graceful and Jonathan needs to clip their wings as soon as possible.

Please note that when Obama visited Ghana, his vice president remained in the USA. I have no reason to believe that you are naive in any way, your questions are quite valid and reasonable.
Politics › Re: Wrong Or Misguided Statement On North And South Regarding Yar'adua And His Peopl by nduchucks: 12:37pm On Mar 02, 2010
Beaf:
[size=14pt]Which is that Aondoakaa is a Southerner![/size]
Anybody who makes such a statement is too low IQ'd and ridiculous to be taken seriously in any sense of the word.
. . .But of course, he did it in "Nothern interest" and that is good enough for you. [size=14pt]Olodo![/size]
Everyone who can read knows that you are being disingenuous in this case. You continue to refuse to admit the main point of the article. Keep burying you head in the sand in denial - we already know that your neck is longer than that of an ostrich, Rakumin dajij cheesy
Politics › Re: Maduekwe Jets Out Again by nduchucks: 12:33pm On Mar 02, 2010
One would think that every minister would want to be present at tommorrow's FEC meeting. The timing of this trip is very interesting.

I think a deal has already been struck with Jonathan as to whether or not section 144 will be invoked. Let them leave Yar'Adua alone, forget section 144 and impeachment. Jonathan has all he needs to run the country. The only issue is that Jonathan cannot travel out of the country because we will then be without a commander in chief while he is gone. Geez.
Politics › Re: Wrong Or Misguided Statement On North And South Regarding Yar'adua And His Peopl by nduchucks: 12:24pm On Mar 02, 2010
Beaf:
I assure you, the problem in the North is one of education. Your wicked leaders, despite disproportionately holding the top positions throughout Nigeria's history, have DELIBERATELY kept your people from school. There is no evil greater than keeping a man ignorant so that you can milk away his vitality a he becomes your ready tool when it is time to burn, loot and kill. That is why there are so many riots up North.

Northerners must be informed, educated and liberated from those thieves who claim to be fighting for the "Northern interest", when in reality, they are rap!ng and pillaging the North and the rest of the country.

. . .And yes! Ibori is now a brand new Northerner!!!!!!!! "The North is the only section of the country that has people gullible enough to fall for such bull."
He tried talking crap about ho he was fighting for ND issues and was being victimised for that. We shut the fuc'ker down! Now he has joined those claiming to be fighting for "Northern interests".
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Free yourself. Your people need intelligent (but grossly misapplied) minds like yours, turn away from trickery and skulduggery. Liberate, empower and EDUCATE YOUR PEOPLE. Stop this unsophisticated and ridiculous "Northern interest" bullsh!t.
I've told you countless times that the common enemy is the elite who hail from every region of the country. Additionally I told you that the most marginalized Nigerians are the Almajiris of the North and the people of the ND. We must continue to fight for the liberation of all Nigerians from the stranglehold of this elite who come from North/South/East/and West.

Your internet rants, rascality, and thuggery has not changed the main point of the article presented by the OP wherein it was stated is that there is absolute political naivety of the average southerner and even the educated ones such as yourself. The southerner (their opinion leaders as well as the common folk) would time and again take a perfectly legitimate national struggle and convert into a regional or tribal one.

You can rant all you want and even insult the victims of the said marginalization, the point of the article remains valid as your yaps have also confirmed.
Politics › Re: Wrong Or Misguided Statement On North And South Regarding Yar'adua And His Peopl by nduchucks: 11:46pm On Mar 01, 2010
LOL, Wonders shall never end. Ibori is now a Northerner, Alams will also become a northerner, and all our enemies - the elite who hail from North/South/East, and West are all fighting for Northern interests and by your definition are Northerners. You are a very bright Ijaw person, dirimo eweri, rakumin dajij.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Appoints New Advisers Headed By Gen Danjuma by nduchucks: 9:43pm On Mar 01, 2010
I suspect that any Northerner appointed by Jonathan to head any high powered commision will be labelled "member of the Northern Cabal" by bigots who will always take a perfectly legitimate national struggle/issue/affair and convert into a regional or tribal one.
Politics › Re: Wrong Or Misguided Statement On North And South Regarding Yar'adua And His Peopl by nduchucks: 9:34pm On Mar 01, 2010
Beaf:
I am waiting to see the day any Southerner will say "ranka dede" to the nearest fu'cked up thief, that is ra'ping his wife and stealing his kids clothes in the name of "Southern interest". Ridiculous!
ranke dede means "May you live long", that is a prayer that is appropriate for your peers and leaders alike. Would you tell us the phrases Southerners of the ND used to worship Ibori and sing the praises of Alams after his escape from British authorities? I bet you those phrases were more like "We worship thee".

naijaking1:
This is why I say you're dishonest sometimes. We have been through many threads here on N/L where it's been shown time and time again that there're documented evidence to show that Buhari and Babangida each have sent the armed forces to dispers meeting of southern leaders, former eastern Nigeria leaders, and so on, while the meetings of the northern leaders go on with government assistance. Do you not remember or you just want to pretend?

Back to "northern interest", the point Beaf is making is that while we're aware that some people maybe using that terminology for personal gains, we really don't have a rebuttal from anybody from the north to say, no, not in my name.

So if an alhaji wants an oil block, he screams northen interest, if a graduate fails to find a job, he screams northern interest, and I'm sure when loverboy fails to score a hit with a girl, he would cry northern interest too angry
We are no longer under millitary rule and I'm not about to defend the action of any dictator.

Anyone can claim to be fighting for the interest of whatever group he/she desires. The rebuttal you mentioned above is useless and unnecessary as far as the article we are discussing is concerned.

The main point of the article is that there is absolute political naivety of the average southerner and even the educated ones such as naijaking1 and beaf. The southerner (their opinion leaders as well as the common folk) would time and again take a perfectly legitimate national struggle and convert into a regional or tribal one. When are you people going to deal with this issue?

That point remains valid even here on NL.
Politics › Re: Wrong Or Misguided Statement On North And South Regarding Yar'adua And His Peopl by nduchucks: 8:23pm On Mar 01, 2010
@naijaking1 & Beaf, I dey go come, i go edit this post in an hour. make una no gloat yet.
Politics › Re: Wrong Or Misguided Statement On North And South Regarding Yar'adua And His Peopl by nduchucks: 8:09pm On Mar 01, 2010
Beaf:
My friend go and sleep! Have you ever seen the yawning gap in education between North and South? Or maybe you just don't know the meaning of bush (abi it has another definition in "Northern interest"? grin).
The sad thing is that the education gap absolutely worsens everyday, so does the gap in poverty as well. Year on year, the North gets worse than the South.
This really makes me wonder, what exactly is this "Northern interest" you are defending here, if not simply an avenue for crime, theft, arson, murder and Boko Haram?

Free yourself, there is nothing like the nebulous "Northern interest". It is a ruse to steal from the poor, loot NNPC and cripple the CBN.
You have to admit that the so called Northerners you love to castigate have historically out maneuvered you politically. Its time for you to learn from them and form your own interest groups that can operate within a democratic setting. Its time for you people to learn how to do break dancing, twist is out dated; come out of the creeks, polish yourselves, give up on criminal activities and participate in our growing democracy.

You must also learn to get along with your immediate neighbors as well.
Politics › Re: Wrong Or Misguided Statement On North And South Regarding Yar'adua And His Peopl by nduchucks: 7:53pm On Mar 01, 2010
Beaf:
Crap.

You are only going round in circles. Guts? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked Stop sounding like a clown, you can see your brothers crying here from the effects of the actions of criminals who are falsely plying their trade in the name of "Northern interests".

Thank God no id!ots and pack of criminals can jump up and say they are fighting for "Southern interests". Just the thought sounds so weird, crazy and petty. We will close them down immediately. "Southern interests" against who? UFO's or Nigerians? Rubbish! angry
The problem with the North is the lack of media houses and paucity of education, problems that rest squarely on the necks of those claiming to be fighting for "Northern interests".

It falls on every educated Northerner to disown these people or complain in vain.
LOL, you people must learn how to operate in a democratic arena.  If I were you, I'd publish my own rejoinder to the said article. You people will  have to come out of the bush sooner or later. You have been taken out of the bush to overseas, the onus is now on you to remove the bush from within   cheesy   Now let me put on protective gear.

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