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Ojo's statements here are probably designed for the consumption of the King of Saudi Arabia and the Saudi diplomats.  They are what could be classified as "diplomatic speak".  

Most of us however do not buy the above, because our government is abnormal.

Katsumoto:
Your comment is very disingenuous. The reason that things don't work in Nigeria is not because there are no qualified professionals, it is because corrupt, vision-less, and incompetent politicians and soldiers of the past will not afford them the opportunity. Fashola is a testament to that fact. There are several qualified citizens in all the states who can develop their states but the blood-thirsty cabal will not let them.

Katsumoto, it appears you are overreacting to a tongue-in-cheek statement which was in direct response to another tongue-in-cheek post. By now you should have come across several posts wherein I blamed Nigeria's woes on the corrupt, vision-less, and incompetent politicians and soldiers of the past and of the present as well -  I call them the elite who hail from North, South, East, and West alike. I take that stance unlike several forumites who blame everything on Northerners.  I sincerely believe that breaking up the country will not solve our problems, we need to get rid of the said thieving elite in addition to making some important constitutional changes.

I'm not sure what you meant my my second statement which you referred to in your second paragraph. abi you are an ajebutter that can't read pigin english ni? There was only one statement in that post.

With regards to your second comment, every society requires law and order to function properly. Do you think that European societies would be so peaceful without law and order? Why are lawless Africans so well behaved when they get to Europe? Why do Europeans jump queues in Africa? If the society functions properly and our refineries were not damaged, would citizens have to fight each other to buy fuel?

No one doubt's the fact that we have very significant law and order issues in Nigeria. I kind of like your defense of behaviors such as jumping queues in Nigeria and the way you linked it to law and order issues. Some would add that such behaviors are due to being uncivilized, a notion that is quite debatable. Good job.

Sometimes you sound like a member of the Hausa/Fulani cabal that has been holding this nation to ransom since Independence.

This one is a cheap shot.  I no belong to any thieving cabal o.

Dede1:
The link you attached to your post is a display of naiveté the remains the crux of arguments that had generated accusations and counter accusations. How balanced did you fancy such con job where all the interviewees except Ojukwu were adversaries of Biafra? What happened to the Biafran generals and leaders who were either in Nigerian army or at Aburi, Ghana with Ojukwu? I hate all deliberate attempts to paint skewed conjecture into factual facts.

A novice will even accept the conjectural rubbish as gospel truth based on tenancy of one man voice against many.

Your statement above is another indictment of Ojukjwu, the great biafran leader. How dare you, in your crafty way, profer that this man is a coward and a disgrace for not standing up for the truth?

Ojukwu participated in the interview series in question, he was in Nigeria when the interviews were broadcast, the biafran generals you talk about also saw the interviews on NTA along with the rest of Nigeria. If what you stated above is true, then why didn't Ojukwu and the said biafran generals state publicly that the eminent Nigerians featured in the interviews lied? Why did Ojukwu not distance himself publicly from the NTA documentary.

To say that Ojukwu was part of some deliberate attempts to paint skewed conjecture into factual facts, is an offense that you must publicly apologize for. What you stated above is nonsensical at best.

JProspero:
There are a few points that need to be stressed regarding the Igbo and the Civil War:

1. The Igbos have moved on since 1970 - they have rebuilt their land and have moved on to recover all they lost to the war. They are ahead of other regions in per capita income today; they are ahead in education with Imo, Anambra and Delta leading in JAMB exams statistics since 1996 when Nigeria became 36 states.( Pls see JAMB statistics).

2. Igbos don't "whine" about the Biafran War. What they hate is misinformation about the war. Contrary to what other ethnic groups were told and handed down to the younger generations, Nigeria forced Igbo out of Nigeria by the govt-endorsed killing of 30 thousand Igbo civilians for several months after the July 1966 counter-coup. Igbos were not angry that Ironsi and other officers were killed, but that innocent civilians who had no hand in how soldiers plot coups were murdered in their thousands with the tacit support of the Gowon govt.

3. The final straw was that after the Aburi Accord was signed and agreed upon in 1967, Gowon reneged on the accord. It painted Gowon and his men as people that could no longer be trusted.

4. If Ojukwu did not declare the Republic of Biafra, he would have been forced out and that republic declared.

5. During the war Nigeria used inhuman acts like food and medical blockade and the killing of helpess civilians to prosecute the war.

6. Igbos spearheaded Nigeria's independence more than any ethnic region in Nigeria and are the only region that buy lands and build houses in other parts of Nigeria in large numbers. So they have more stake in Nigeria. They have always believed in Nigeria, but feel that Nigeria has always shown them that they are not accepted.

7. Igbos don't want to take over anybody's petroleum or possession. They don't even need the govt to survive - they simply want to be left alone to mind their business without being treated like second-class citizens in their own country.

8. Igbos feel very sad that other ethnic groups conveniently overlook the 1966/67 pogrom in the North and blame the Igbos for the war. If that senseless killing did not take place, there would not have been any war in 1967. If the Northern counter-coup had stopped at killing Ironsi and his Igbo officers, no Igbo man would have complained. But the planned and systematic hunting down and killing of thousands of innocent Igbo civilians was a clear signal that Igbos were not wanted in Nigeria. And that hatred continues till today when Igbos are killed in the North because a Danish cartoonist made a caricature of Mohammed. And yet Igbos NEVER kill any settlers in their land.

JProspero, I started reading your post with the impression that it would be a refreshing, honest, and balanced  post.  I was completely disappointed because you failed to mention a single wrong that the East or its leaders  did or their contribution to the war. According to you, the East and its leaders did abosolutely nothing wrong and they could not have prevented the war.

Everyone knows that there is enough blame to go around on both sides, if you can't admit the culpability of your leaders, while pointing out those of Nigerian leaders, then your post is a dishonest one.

You may want to edit your post or rewrite it to give it credibility, as it stands, its a bunch of garbage. I'd suggest you watch the videos here before you make your revision: http://maxsiollun./2008/03/08/another-excellent-series-of-biafra-videos/

Onlytruth:
You are a full blooded idiot!  

The people who died in Biafra were from former Eastern region of Nigeria - be they half aliens from space.

I knew you would not answer the question, I just wanted to make sure. Atulu awusa!

O na-abu a si nwata wuba ahu, o saba afo ya.

Nwanne m, this is a sign of immaturity. Why the abuse na? aje'kuta ma munmi, olodo, rakumin dajij.

Onlytruth:
ndu_chucks, I throw a challenge your way: I am an Igbo man from Anambra state, Nnewi to be exact. Where in Nigeria are you from
If you dodge this question, then you must stop commenting here.

This is not your first time of asking this question despite the fact that I've told you I prefer to discuss issues rather than ndu_chucks.  Don't be surprised to find out that I'm from Nnewi, but before you can perform any verification exercise, please read the following:

A Nigerian has a father. The Nigerian's father had a mother who is half Igbo and half Idoma. The Nigerian's mother had a father who is half Yoruba and half Fulani.  This Nigerian was born while his father was living as a diplomat in Russia and he speaks the russian language fluently.

This Nigerian speaks, hausa, igbo, yoruba, and idoma fluently and he has very close relatives in just about every  region in Nigeria.  This Nigerian is married to an Ijaw princess.

Onlytruth's homework: Which tribe should this Nigerian claim? What should be his state of origin? What about the children of the Nigerian, what is their state of origin? Pray tell, olodo.

I'm a full blooded one Nigerian and proud of it!

Onlytruth:
Meanwhile go and answer to why you are trying to kill off Christians in Jos. More people have died in northern Nigeria than all part of Nigeria combined since after the war.

How are you sure I'm not a Christian, olodo? If the number of 1 - 3 million deaths that you people are throwing arround is accurate, then your assertion that more people have died in northern Nigeria than all parts of Nigeria combined is simply false.

I think I've made my point, you can bury your head in the sand if you wish - thats typical of denials. Moving on jare.

P.S. Ojukwu remains your hero, no one can take that away from you. I never tried to do that.

Onlytruth:
Ojukwu never sacrificed a sinlge Biafran life for the war. That is what revisionists have been busy trying to prove. And our response has been a resounding -NO IT IS NOT TRUE.

Let me remind you of a  few things that you are pretending to be ignorant of.  Three months into the war, Enugu, the Biafran capital fell to the federal troops. That should have signalled the beginning of the end for Ojukwu and his commanders. But to their credit, they refused to surrender at that point and even threw a few punches of their own despite being outmanned and outclassed by the federal troops

From the start of the war, Federal troops had made major moves in non Igbo areas and places on the fringes such as Nsukka. Nsukka in Biafra's northwest corner and then Ogoja in the northeast were the first federal gains.  Then Bonny in the non Igbo Niger delta. Enugu fell in October 5.  Amphibious federal forces took Calabar, biafra's remaining port on Oct 18 after the fiercest fightin in a non Igbo area.

By this time the federal troops were in control of every port, and land and air supply routes to Biafra. A full blockade was on.  At this point there was nowhere else to go, it was impossible for the Biafran troops to win.  It was either surrender or fight to finish.

My question remains, why did Ojukwu not fight to the end, once he made the choice that effectively sacrifised the lives of these women and children?  If you tell me that some foreign forces gave Ojukwu the assurance of providing millitary support, but ended up disappointing him; that would have been understandable. The excuses that you guys have come up with so far, is pitiful.

RichyBlacK:
Find the complete article here: http://www.kwenu.com/publications/okoye/2008/generals_general.htm


ndu_chucks,

It seems you're trying to inflate the number of possible civilian death due to starvation to somehow show Ojukwu to be insensitive. The truth is that the actual civilian casualty is unknown, however, estimates range from half million (http://www1.american.edu/TED/ice/BIAFRA.HTM) to three million (your reference)

If estimates of the number of women and children who died from starvation range from 500,000 to 3million, you can see that my 1.5milion number is at about in the middle of the range and for academic purposes, quite reasonable. If I was trying to inflate the number to somehow show that Ojukwu was insensitive, I would have simply stated that he was a coward by running away, as others have stated here. Being a coward is worse than being insensitive. I respect Ojukwu and my aim is to seek an understanding of why a commander can scarifise this many lives and then run away in the end.

I still maintain that a surrender at the point when it became clear that 3000 women and children were dying on a daily basis would have been more reasonable.  Again, we can agree to disagree on the issue.

Finally, that Igbos have turned around the losses of the war and made considerable strides in every facet of human endeavor within just four decades is indeed remarkable.

I agree with you on the above point.

Dede1:
Why should you sacrifice the good nature of common sense on the altar of cheap and misguided political point? I guess you believe everything that is printed on a sheet of paper.

You believe that Biafran commanders at various sectors and battle theaters trying to fend off a determined enemy whose intensions were to massacre, despoil and kill women, children and all people of Biafra would at the same time visiting the countless refugee camps scattered all over unoccupied territories of Biafra.

Anyway aftermath stories of war are filled with conjectural load of rubbish. As usual, most of craps written after a war have never favored the loser.

Dede1,  good try, but your excuse does not hold water.  The high rate of starvation was reported by various international organizations, including time magazine. The whole world knew about the disaster that was about to happen which Ojukwu and his commanders allowed to happen, reportedly to score a cheap propaganda point and get the world's pity.

If you are now claiming that Ojukwu and his commanders were busy fighting hence oblivious to the high rate of death of their people, then Ojukwu and his commanders must have been incompetent, completely irresponsible, and should have never gone to war in the first place. How can they claim that they were ignorant of the deaths of say, half a million women and children because they were busy fighting?  You mean to tell me that their scouts did not report these happenings to them? Your excuse is unreasonable to me, try another one.

Effiong eventually surrendered after the deaths of millions of women and children, while Ojukwu fled. I maintain that they should have surrendered much sooner because they had the information that these women and children were dying at the rate of 3000 per day!!!

Beaf:
^
Interesting!
I didn't realise that. Doesn't he have to clear such appointments with the legislature first? If he doesn't, this will be seen as a judgement call (except there are other angles).

Jonathan can recalled  Nigeria's Ambassador to Saudi Arabia with immediate effect and direct the Deputy Ambassador (or another career diplomat who Jonathan trusts) to oversee the mission pending the confirmation of  new envoy. The Deputy Ambassador will sit up and produce Yar'Adua or he too will be history.

Beaf:
That is a brilliant suggest, but I think it might be too late.
They've now got their visa's, so they might be off as soon as tomorrow. I believe Jonathan has other plans though, he is most likely giving the most powerful members of the kitchen cabinet a rope to hang themselves with. It is hard to see how they can come out of this glittering with success (a fail, fail situation ).

Jonathan seems incredibly wily and patient, lets hope it doesn't backfire on him (Turai + Ibori is no joke).

Its not too late at all. He can recall that ambassador with immediate effect, name a replacement, and order the presidential plane to be returned to Nigeria, tommorrow!

henry101:
@ ndu chucks
As usual u ve exibited your cunning ways.
U ve refused 2 giv answers 2d questions raised.
Y did d FG led by Gowon n his team dciv Ojukwu at Aburi by accepting his terms n changed wen dey got 2nigeria.
Y didnt dey challenge him at Aburi? Rmbr Ojukwu was d only dat represented Biafra.
Answer d question n leave my person.

oh boy, my real name no be Gowon and I  no follow dem go Aburi, so why I go sabi de reason wey Gowon take  renege?  Abeg send email to Gowon or write am letter, den him go fit tell you why.

Onlytruth:
So ndu_chucks, we must lose all baggage to run the race of survival. Some of the baggage include things like morality and fairplay.

War is an evil that must be avoided at all cost.  Wars never end without sad stories, may God heal us all. May you find ways to forgive ALL your adversaries - it takes a real man to forgive.

Katsumoto:
I understand the point that you are trying to make but you seem to have forgotten the issues which led to the war. Gowon was head of state but he did nothing to prevent or stop the murder of Igbo citizens in the North. As Head of State, he should have afforded protection to all Nigerians. How was Ojukwu to know what would have happened to his people if he had surrendered early?

The war lasted three years and by the end, most combatants were tired. We don't know whether some of the soldiers would have still being blood-thirsty and gone on a killing rampage if Ojukwu had surrendered after one year. What if instead of 1.5m children and women starving to death, they were massacred by Nigerian soldiers. We all know what Murtala did at Asaba.

I am not saying he should or shouldn't have surrendered, I am only playing devil's advocate.

My friend, the decision did not require the mind of a brain surgeon.  Please read the time magazine article posted by the OP and find that commanders refused to surrender even after women and children were dying at the rate of 3000 per day, haba!  The dead women and children at that time were in the hundreds of thousands, sadly.  Why should the war continue until over a million more civilian deaths?  The reporter warned that the casaulties could reach 2 million and the reporter was right.

Jonathan needs to replace the ambassador to Saudi Arabia immediately, at the very least.

Onlytruth:
You are the animal no doubt but I'll leave that for another day.

Yes, we should build a great ONE NIGERIA because there are some people to deal with in Nigeria. How can we deal with those people if we leave? It doesn't make sense. I am 1000% sure that we will gain the upper hand eventually in Nigeria and bring those people to account. This should be obvious to anyone with half a human brain, not idiots like the one making this statement below:

He will wake up one day to sweep my compound in Ibadan   If he tries any idiocy, I will then show him that I am a survivor of his father's plot to exterminate me and make him pay.

I tell my people again, we OWN Nigeria's future. Just keep being yourselves and be STRONG as always. We own the future of Nigeria.  

Onlytruth, my good friend, your skin is getting softer o. no be you first talk about Nigerians in terms of food chain? OK, no vex.

Why are you so bent on revenge na? Cool down biko.

RichyBlacK:
You missed my point.

I agree with your conclusion that Ojukwu was a brave man, however, the fear I alluded to was not fear for himself but fear for the safety of his people. Given the actions of the Nigerian government before and during the war, it made sense to avoid certain death (the Nigerian side was out for genocide) than probable death (hunger/starvation). At the end of the day, and since we're talking numbers, the Igbo population remains at an all-time high!

Given the circumstances, it is my opinion that Ojukwu's actions during and after the war were necessary to ensure the survival of Ndi-Igbo. Furthermore, the fact that Ndi-Igbo are doing very well within and outside Nigeria is a testimony to Ojukwu's wisdom.

Also, your figures of 1.5 million civilian casualty is not credible. Do you have any citation(s)?

As I said earlier, we must agree to strongly disagree on this issue.  If the 1.5million civilian casualties, is not credible, then some people have been spreading lies on Igbo based websites. Here is a sample entry form kwenu.com,  a google search will reveal other similar claims.  How many women and children do you believe died of starvation if you disagree with the 1.5million number?

“Mounting secessionist pressures from his fellow Igbo finally compelled Ojukwu on May 30, 1967, to declare the Eastern region an independent state under the name of the Republic of Biafra. Federal troops soon afterward invaded Biafra, and civil war broke out in July 1967.The resulting Nigerian Civil war that raged between secessionist Biafra and Nigeria from July1967 to January 1970, resulted in 100,000 military casualties, and between 2 and 3 million Biafran civilian deaths from starvation and disease.”

Find the complete article here: http://www.kwenu.com/publications/okoye/2008/generals_general.htm

henry101:
@ ndu chucks n all
Even though U r frm d north, U ve decided 2 ve a username dat dcivs pple on NL n uve almost suceeded in balkanizing d southerners in dis forum which is wat d north is realy known 4.
Now if Gowon had obeyed d points raised @ Aburi confrence, do u think d eastern assembly wud ve askd Ojukwu 2declare an independent nation.
Y didnt Gowon n his team challenge Ojukwu( d only one who represented Biafra) at Aburi if they knew dey werent going 2heed 2d points raised in Aburi.
I nid answers all.

henry101, If you can prove that I'm not an Igboman from what you've read on NL, then I can prove that you are a pigmy from the bushes of Zimbabwe. olodo

Onlytruth:
I know this has always been your goal- to create a need for Arewa at the very top of the food chain.

are you an animal or a baboon to be describing yourself as being part of a food chain? Apologies to my Abriba brothers, abi you dey eat people ni?  Ngwuanu post ya picture in your profile now now

Onlytruth:
So my friend ndu_chucks, tell your Arewa brothers that the Igboman has decided to stay in Nigeria, we will make sure Nigeria stays one.

Excellent, please join the rest of us in building a great ONE NIGERIA.

RichyBlacK:
ndu_chucks,

You seem to have left out the real human emotion of fear!

How do you contemplate surrendering to an enemy who, at peacetime, coordinated the massacre of tens of thousands of Igbos and other South-Easterners? What would you expect such a vile enemy at peace time do at wartime?

It is possible that Ojukwu and his top lieutenants did not believe that the Nigerian side would even respect the rules of surrender in war - I know some are ignorant of the rules of war, but there are rules. One of such rules is the granting of safe passage to the emissaries (typically a top lieutenant or overall general) of the surrendered side to submit the documents of surrender.

It is no secret that the Nigerian side was fighting a barbaric war - prisoners of war were executed, civilians including women and children were killed, surrendered soldiers were shot at sight, unborn babies were brought of the womb and dismembered, etc. These war crimes were not isolated events as some may want to say, but the routine practice of the Nigerian side.

So, even the basic war tradition of granting safe passage for surrender were never guaranteed until Ojukwu was out of the scene. Gowon and his lieutenants had so much personal animosity towards Ojukwu that they were not able to guarantee him any safe passage to Lagos or on any of the naval warships off the coast of Biafra, even if he wanted to surrender. It was after Ojukwu was out of the scene that the Nigerian side began, albeit grudgingly, to consider granting General Effiong safe passage to Lagos.

I hereby submit that the peacetime massacres (large-scale coordinated pogrom of Igbos outside Igbo land) and the wartime atrocities (flouting every conceivable rules of war) of the Nigerian side made it very difficult for Ojukwu to surrender.

I did not leave out the fear factor in reaching my conclusions.  Fear cannot be said to be the factor that caused Ojukwu and his commanders to decide to surrender only after over 1.5 million women and children had died of starvation instead of surrendering much sooner to avoid the disaster.  To say Ojukwu had fear in him when the decision was made is, in a way, an insult to the man. Ojukwu was a brave man!

The only people that had fear in them were the women and children who were starving to death. All the other excuses you provided to explain why it was difficult for Ojukwu and his commanders to surrender much sooner than they did, are quite weak, in my opinion. 

A more plausible explanation for the actions of Ojukwu and his commanders, is the propaganda factor and the attempt at winning the world's sympathy as mentioned in the time magazine article provided by the OP.

In the end we may have to simply agree to disagree on this issue.  I submit to you that, it is better to surrender and save the lives of over 1million women and children, than to make a foo.lish decision to continue fighting, keeping the available food for soldiers while allowing 1.5million women and children to die. To make matters worse, after these women and children died, Ojukwu and some of his commanders fled.  God dey.

Now that Goodluck Jonathan has executive authority, if he is sincere about wanting to find the truth, he should replace the Nigerian Ambassador to Saudi Arabia before sending these ministers to Saudi Arabia.  The current ambassador is part of the conspiracy to decieve Nigerians regarding Yar'Adua's condition.

Additionally, the Jonathan should order the presidential plane should return to Nigeria with the ministers, after their visit.

Dede1:
I had thought too that mere blockade does not and have never decided the outcome of a war. But I had to admit that it is one of the strategic tools of the war. Does it matter when both sides still think that the war was winnable regardless of strategy?

I would be first to tell you that Ojukwu committed unpardonable blunders during war but not surrendering is certainly not one of them. However, it would have been a wonderful sight to behold in Nigeria/Biafra war if blockade had not been invented.

Dede1:
There should be no argument about blockade be a legitimate weapon of the war. The issue in discourse is that since it is a strategic tool of the war and rightfully applied by the Nigerian side should not compel Ojukwu to surrender. Why is no argument that Ojukwu should have simply surrendered at the sight of NNS Lokoja in the waters of Bight of Biafra?

Dede1, you've made great points as usual. 

I must point out that you've again missed the point of my disagreement with the timing of Biafra's surrender. Let's assume that the war was winnable by either side after Nigeria received full support from Britain, USSR and USA.  Now, we know that Biafra lost a total of 200,000 to 300,000 soldiers to the war and to the credit of Biafran troops, the federal troops lost close to the same number of soldiers. 

Now, after the blockade, women and children were dying of starvation by the hundreds of thousands, and the Igbos have reported that the total number of these women and children is between 1million and 2 million. Ojukwu should have surrendered once  he realized that people were dying at such a high rate - that should have been the compassionate thing to do. 

No one is saying that the surrender should have come simply because of the blockade -  what I'm saying is that, the effect of the blockade (hundreds of thousands of dead Igbo women and children), should have been enough to cause an immediate surrender. Why wait for 1.5million women and children to die before surrendering? Ojukwu and his commanders knew that these people were dying at alarming rates! Was cheap publicity and propagander or sympathy from the rest of the world worth the lives of 1.5million chilren? I think not.

Jakumo:
With northern Nigerian officers being placed in strategic command positions throughout the country, one could be forgiven for concluding that the groundwork for a military coup is already being laid.

The allegiance of The Guards Brigade commander can determine the success or otherwise of any military power grab that does take place in Nigeria, so the placement of a northerner in that key post is intriguing to say the least.

I'm pulling up a chair for this one.

One could also be forgiven for concluding that placing Northern Nigerian officers in the said strategic command positions, will ensure the failure of a coup by wayward southern rascal junior officers. ko ba haka ba?

Dede1:
@ndu_chucks
This is another juncture where I had blamed both Ojukwu, Ironsi and all Igbo officers in Nigerian armed forces for not engaging in equitable military hardware distribution or installation among the regions when they had opportunity. The doctrine of north-south divide of Nigeria was idiotic because it left most of the armored vehicles, fighting aircrafts and ships either in Kaduna or Lagos. They should have realized that both Kaduna and Lagos had no good intensions for the eastern Nigerians.

The bolded part is a very major factor which contributed to Biafra's loss of the war. I have to admit that given the determination of Biafran troops, their bravery and engineering prowess, and their will to defend their people, it would have taken much longer to have defeated Biafra had millitary hardware been distributed equitably among the regions. Ironsi and other Igbo officers underestimated the wisdom of the Northern leaders in this matter.

Dede1:
@ndu_chucks

Please inform us within the annals of military conflicts where blockade had decided the outcome of a war? Ojukwu needed not to surrender simply because the Nigerian side had to itself the few frigates and MIGs.

Blockade is usually a tool to pressure the enemy into submission or to make the enemy more vulnerable to defeat in battles. If an enemy region is blockaded and the flow of weaponry is reduced, that will weaken their position and make their defeat easier. Blockade alone does not typically decide the outcome of wars. My own blame for Ojukwu and his commanders is that, they continued to fight when women and children were dying of starvation by the hundreds of thousands! That to me was a big blunder.

Having said that, I will state here that the man Ojukwu is a brave man. To say that he is not revered by the Igbos will be a gross understatement. This man remains one of the most influencial men in Igboland and I personally admire his commitment to his people.

sammyzacks:
'written declaration' means a 'declaration' that has been put in 'writing'. the constitution did not say it must be signed.the bbc interview was a declaration to the whole world, the senate president and speaker inclusive.same was carried by our national dailies and documented in the national library. a copy of such newspaper publication can be tendered as a written declaration.

well done o. ya argument be de reason why lawyers na a breed of a kind.  go on soun!   

Na wa for wayas.

(a)The South will never secede and form a new country as proposed by several people particularly those from the ND.  There will be no help or cooperation forthcoming from ndiigbo to promote that cause.

(b)Ndiigbo will never team up with  Niger Delta people to fight the rest of Nigeria under any condition. There is too much bad belle between these 2 groups.

(c)It will take at least 1 more generation before Ndiigbo and Yorubas begin to fully trust each other again.

(d)The rest of Nigeria needs Arewa to provide survival balance; with Arewa out of the picture, I submit that you people go kill all of una selves finish. awon olodo

God Bless ONE NIGERIA.

houvest:
I'm glad you and Afam are now working together. My goal is gradually being achieved. Clearly Yall are tired of the war and need to call a truce Still waiting for Babapupa and the others to join you in this raproachment against a common enemy (me). Does Nigeria need a war against a foreign Nation to make the different tribes work together and see themselves as brothers? Food for thought

Work together ke?

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Jonathan should give the coup leaders 48hrs to give up, or we are coming in!  

May their souls rest in peace. May their deaths not be in vain and may it lead to the allotment of resources to develop effective fire brigade systems across the state.

A - 1
N - 0

Fat lady never sing yet.

Afam:
I should post the direct response because you denied it? In your dreams.

I would gladly do so if you will agree to be shot once the response is referenced or reproduced. You should at least be bold enough to accept responsibility of your actions whether right or wrong, that is what defines a man.

You are a bloody liar. Show me the post where you agreed that if Ojukwu surrendered as soon as he knew that Biafra had been blockaded, millions of women and children would not have died.  You never made such an admission in any post.  

Tthe post you are talking about, in response to a question I asked you, is non existent.  That is why you cannot post the link.

I will no longer respond to you on this issue until you provide a link to the said post.

Afam:
My apologies if you think I am insulting you, I am not I am merely stating the fact.

You are a shameless liar. You asked the question and I gave a direct answer which you addressed.

I do not recall you giving me any direct response to the question I posed. Everyone that responded, as far as I can recall dodged the question and addressed other issues instead. If you believe I am mistaking, please post the link to the said response you gave me to the question. The direct response you mentioned is non existent as far as I can tell.

No need to call me a liar, I suspect you are mistaking. If you cannot find the response or discover that you made a mistake, no yawa. I will not insult you or your parents under any condition - that is not necessary at all.