₦airaland Forum

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Sookie:
I think you should consider how other countries dealt with their 'wayward' street children issue such as the problem in the Favelas of Brazil. We need a holistic approach incorporating the Govt, Community Leaders, Religious Leaders and the wider community to accept Almajiris as part of the community and not people that are there to be ignored, used and abused. </quote>


Sookie, we need an approach that is consistent and in harmony with our native beliefs. Nothing we borrowed from outside has ever done us good and been effective in the long term.

I like the second part of your response on the need for recognition, acceptance and accomodation.

Thank you for that great insight.


Bilms,

My suggestion will align with pre existing customs for disposing such social problems, without the harsh penalties that are often attached.

I will first encourage that we face forward on national issues. What do I mean by this?

Nothing at the center is benefiting anyone of the component ethic groups. So going forward, proposals for social rehabilition should be formulated on a regional platform so that in th event the proposal is adopted for law and implementaion, the regions are thus empowered to interpret it as it fits their local needs.

This approach clears way for a new political awareness and a test for a true dissociation that can return each region back to its sovereign rights for its nationals.

I do not know where you stand on national issues and will therefore not want to offend your sense of patriotism to Nigeria with a list of critical steps that in their context will be truly anti-nationalism.

With this revelation, let me know if you are still interested in my suggestions on the topic.

This is a very sad story.

May Steve's soul rest in peace.

I will suggest the family get a Nigerian lawyer in germany that might be willing to give them a pro bono service considering the family financial situation.

I don't know German laws but in most countries a deceased has some limited rights and can be represented in court to argue those rights.

Because he was legally married, the wife would determine burial arrangements. But since she is also deceased then there is a default and late Steve can thus be represented as a default client with request to the courts.

The lawyer goes to court and present a stay of disposition on the deceased's religious customs.

Death is a spiritual transition and a core pillar of Steve's religious beliefs.

His religion, and by extension spiritual beliefs will be violated under the law if certain rites which require that the dead body be cleansed before burial.

The spiritual cleansing include steps which the German law does not approve on its sovereign domain.

It is therefore appropriate that the Government not violate the deceased's rights and declare him unqualified for cremation on religious grounds.

I wish I knew the German law to pinopoint the approach to use but hopefully they find a Nigerian that can take it up there.

Mahinmi is Awori. I don't know what it means.

Cowboys are ranchers. In US, there are designated pastures for grazing and are operated coMmercially.

You can't compare US to Nigeria on this issue.

If you modernize herdsmen by US standard, then modernize farmers on that scale as well.

The fulani know that! As many communities they cross and people they encounter and exchange with, they do not need a lesson on safe grazing.

What we have is not a knowledge issue but rather, an attitude problem.

Remember earlier I said the cow goes where its herded. Cow doesn't reason which is farm and where is meadow, to him all are grazing ground.

So the fulani has control of the discretion. He knows what is required, this his field, his specialty.

So why is he not conforming? Sour attitude - he has a grievance!

As highlited by Alj, I believe, both herder and farmer are illiterate.

They need people who are literate, those who pride accomplishments on college degree to come up with plans to addess this "attitude".

I know military the General (Nwaogbo) is qualified to serve in any region of the sovereign domain of Nigeria.

His presence as the voice, face and authority in Maiduguri commanding force against Boko is a political suicide for Gej and for Nwaogbo's people, the Igbos.

This is not tribalism; its the truth!!

The Boko problem is a political one first, before it is military. The opposing force to it must wear a politically accessible face to move the talks and negotiations an inch forward and convince the enemy to buy-into it.

Henry,

But listen to what he's saying. He is giving this issue a broad and expansive meaning.


Look, next time you see a fulani herder I want you to sit him down for a friendly chat. Ask him to tell you about his journeys.

His range covers the entire savannah belt, from Adamawa in Nigeria/Cameroon to Futa region in Senegal.

Due to adversities, increased ambush and losses along the belt, most of them have localised into specific areas and their nomadic adventure follows the season up and down.

There is only one other traditional craft that paralells herding and its not farming; hunting!

Hunters have similar skills and exposure as herders.

I know you understand farming and possibly hunting but not herding.

Now, if a hunter and a farmer were involved in this type situation of conflict, the hunter will always win because of his skills.

Hence fulani herders always when to sneak in stealthily and cause mayhem and as well the get away plan and camouflaging undercover.

In a hunter/farmer conflict, what PLANS should be proposed for corrective action?

Chucks,

Are you Igbo?

you are not making any sense now and never will. You tell me if your ethnic group know "how to spread" and "be content"


Ask the people of West Africa that have hosted our parents and their parents and the parents before them, to give you a feedback rating of how they see Yorubas.

Outside of West Africa we go as Nigerians - it'd be difficult to single us out for a rating at that level.

The rating will answer your question on "spread and be content".

In fact if I were in Nigeria and in Imo state now,

You will be on highway carrying placards.


Idiot! I say plan, not law.

What are top three plans around which the parties can avoid each other in a confrontation going forward?

Plans! Plans!! Plans!!!

Now that your senses have returned, I would share some ideas which motivated the post in the first place.

Me chi onu!

Ask Proud Igbo, he knows. . . . Or ask Ngo "the Brute".

Alj,

Yes, precisely!


Abagworo,

Let me present it to yiu another way.

Igboland has much more to gain with or without Ikwerre, than Ikwerre has to gain standing alone or belonging to a non-Igbo sovereingty.

If today Ilorin say you know what we don't want to go with Yorubaland, even though they speak the language, then the lessons of such rebellion will be learnt the hard way as a stepchild in an Arewa sovereignty. Right?

Its the same way with Ikwerre.

They have your culture and speak your language. If they know what's good for them they should belong in Igboland.

However, if they don't know that, then let them get the realization. Ultimately they will return home some years in the future.

As I have often repeated, Hausa controls title and position, but Yoruba is truly the political house of the Nation.

We control and define whether this country splits or hold together.

Until we give the okay . . . . .nothing happens in the polity. Igbo is too tied up with spare parts and pills to care or even understand that ndigbo ascension to power does not happen until Yoruba has given the green light for it.

As long they are humans like yoruba, hausa and everyone else and God has not forbidden their presence then its okay for them to spread. The problem with Igbo is they don't know how to spread and be content.

Ikwerre is an Igboid language that has its roots in Igbo. Pre-Colonial Ikwerre people were a subgorup of the Igbo people that migrated south towards the Atlantic coast during the period between the 1500s-1800s.



In Lagos today, in an area called Epetedo. There is a clan of Tapa (Nupe) that have been there since 1850s. They have existed in Lagos itself since the reign of Oba Eshilokun in late 1700s.

They still have their customs, traditions, names (sanda, idagi, and so on). In fact they switch from yoruba to tapa language when it pleases them.

Their situation is no different than Ikwerre but Nupe people are not laying claim to epetedo as a territory.

The itshekiri and the ijebus speak the same language but ijebu is not claiming tsekiri land as its own.

Learn from these examples and leave people land alone.

Let them come to you if they want to be with you. So far they have expressed the desire to distance from you.

Then leave 'em alone!

Odumchi, Biafra is gone. Look to the present okay, somebody else, not Igbo, own p'racourt.

more. . .

more. . .

Sorry, can't do family story! 

Here's instead pictures of Lagos Kings and the Lagos Royal Logo

Abagworo,

Do me a favor. Are u Ikwerre?