₦airaland Forum

For the first time in about a month, I believe you are talking sense here

u rascal! i always talk sense but that pygmy Igbo nchara is in your ears. someone should kidnap his a s s!!

do u know why Nigeria cannot get along?  It is the reason of multiple journeys.  Im heading to Bida but Ibo man wants me to go instead to Umuahia. . . .Im visiting Nsukka but Hausa man wants me to come to Katsina.  Im living for others instead of leaving for myself. The multiple diversions from my destinations have built up into resentment.  Each tribe now thinks the other is its enemy for acting as a barrier and blocking a completion of its desired journey,   In a very simple term thats the problem here in Nigeria.  Dont reproduce that problem.  Be careful how many journeys are included in the new nation.

The expansion of sharia law in certain states beyond the jurisdictions provided in our Federal Secular constitution must be reversed.
The Almajiri system must be banished.
Aspects of education curriculum that promotes religious hate should be banished from our education system
Muslim Leaders must take more responsibility to reject and purnish hate crimes!

i disagree wit these solutions.

Can anyone enlighten me on the current status of Opobo in relation to their Igboness. I do not mean old history of Jaja; I know all that. How do they view us? Have they been corrupted by their neighbors or the divisive Nigerian state into having a second thought about their Igboness? To the best of my knowledge, I have met only one Opobo person and he spoke perfect Igbo. He is late now, otherwise I would have asked this of him.

this mut'afvcka sound like Ojukwu here!   Nchara u no get shame, , . .your entire life u only met 1 opbo person and you had good recollection of him because he spoke igbo but now you are talking here about bringing them under ibo nation.  ah, onyi ara

Everybody needs peace. That's all.
Peace within your borders, and peace outside of it (read ability to fend off foreign invaders). An Eastern country would have enough human and material resources to survive a foreign invasion. Isn't this even self explanatory?
Two neighbors, each with enough natural resources to survive on its own, can only team up to form a bigger more formidable nation. The type able to stop jealous folks like you

onlytruth, would it not be more aligning and harmonious to remain a small nation of one people than to form a large population nation with minorities whose destiny is far distant from yours?

“Our non-violent nature should not be mistaken for cowardice.

hmmm. . . .this is a very familiar mantra! I think it came from West, did it not? Im surprised to see brave warrior tribes find value in its use.


Anyway, . . . here is the deal, the whole deal and nothing but the deal!! Nigeria is at war!! Let me repeat, Nigeria is at war!!! The tensions on ground are building up, when the steam can no longer be bottled uo anger will flare and violent from mulriple sections will silumtaneously lash out. Gej and his creek croonies are determined to effect the ijaw influence as the mainstream. This means MEND will be the grassroot voice of the militants and not MASSOB. The military is being used to implement that change. Since Gej became President, how many times has MEND beung killed or attacked by military, inspite of their wildness up and down the creek committing all sorts of atrocities and frauds? They were even defended by Gej for October 1st.

Wake the fvck upm Nigeria is at war. . . . do whatever is possible for your people to do and consolidate and preserve yourself. God is my witness, I'd hate for you to experience any more massacre on the scale of the civil war and right now you have no one to look out for you but yourselves. Start getting your people home. . . everyone is slowly heading back to his father's hpouse.

its an abomination to create new states in East before Ojukwu is buried. You all drop this thought and go make Nigeria better. You no fit better the one you have now but you want create new one. yeye people!!

hey sam, i dey hia dey paddy-paddy with my brothers.

Simply summarised, Igbo have oil, and we don't need SS oil!

so what do u need? why do they have to be in same country with you?

come on now,. . . .you are talking about African man! In public, how would you know he is a lawyer without the wig? Its not about the wig but his status in society, he wants you to know who he is.

Nice article!

On the issue of resource control and particularly oil, the North is self sufficient!  The only pain they will have is coastal access.  

From what I have heard, they are not carving a sharia ruled Northern Nigeria. . . .far from it, they are carving a islamic kingdom which will amalgamate Northern Nigeria, Niger, Chad, and so on.  Chad has abundant oil.

It will be like merging Western Nigeria with Republic of Benin and Togo to return back to the pre-colonial days.  They speak one language, have same culture and customs, worship same God. . . why not have same destiny?  

They will go gaga with their new found freedom, and in a case where the Northern voice has defaulted to that of boko, the Northen Nigeria piece of that kingdom will be controlled and manipulated by boko interests. I see boko serving a role similar to taliban sharia police and flogging anyone who appears in public without a beard.

_chucks, start growing some !

i dont know of any better way to exact justice than to be in physical posession of the criminal.  All the laws in the world mean nothing when he escapes, facilitated by an insider.

MASSOB has lost credibility.  Is this not the same group that told ndigbo not to be intimidated by boko and to stay put in north?  shyyt~~

Rallying up the base,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UNPzWW3kXVg -PART1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ErVSJKMRyhM - PART 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Xk83xIRwI2o -PART3

if you are returning to your root to form a new country you dont think that article is relevant in the things to consider? How you going to form a new country without considering roots as factor? You should invite only people of jewish blood to be members of this new ibo (ibow; ibrow; ibrew) nation. Its the only way to find peace.

u are confused. . . dont know who you are anymore. Read the following account given by some Dr Ojukwu to a foreign correspondent. This was in 2008. You dont know if you should be jews, nigerians, biafrans, or ibos. Your doctor below has hijacked a motif that the Yorubas and Hausas have used for thousands of years and adopted it as an igbo standard symbol. read on as your countryman makes a fool of himself in his desperation to make ibo and jew one family.

Among the Ibo traditions is one which claims that the original nomadic herdsmen were exposed to Jewish culture and traditions by Jews traveling south from Timbuktu through the Tibesti range and down to eastern abd central Nigeria, where they traded in ivory and some agricultural products. Timbuktu was a major center of medieval Jewish culture as the climate was much different during this period then at present, being more savanna then desert. In fact, there is allegedly a large library of Jewish manuscripts in Timbuktu which have been preserved virtually intact by the desert climate but which the Malian government, which is rather militantly Muslim, refuses to allow anyone to even examine, much less remove.

In any event, according to a friend, the green six-pointed star, which except for its color closely resembles the Magen David, is a major symbol of Ibo culture; it figures prominently as a motif on the regalia of clan and even tribal chiefs, among others. He therefore wishes to know who actually designed the badge of British Nigeria, and if he (for we can assume that at that date the designer would most probably have been a man) was familiar with the significance of the green six pointed star to the Ibo people. It apparently plays no role in the traditions and cultures of other Nigerian peoples such as the Yoruba, Hausa, etc. He thinks, and on the basis of what he has told me, that the use of this design was therefore more than coincidental.

He says that there is a real problem with Lord Lugard's description. The design may well have been on a 'handsome goblet of brass and copper covered with designs, which was captured by the troops when the Emir of Kantagora, the principle [sic] slave-raider in Northern Nigeria, was captured,' but Dr Ojukwu says that the object which Lord Lugard described was actually a ceremonial vessel for anointing a Paramount Chief of the Ibo upon his accession to a position of authority and actually had no connection either with Islam or with the Hausa. The anointing was in two parts, and there should have been two goblets; one would contain water which had been filtered through silk or gauze so as to make it as clear as possible, while the second goblet would contained palm oil, which would have been used for the actual anointing of the Chief. The designs could very probably have actually been an attempt to write Hebrew script. The knowledge of how to write such script would have been lost by the midst of the 18th Century, but designs which vaguely suggest such script can be found on Ibo metalwork and even pottery as late as the early 1920s. The object which Lord Lugard describes was very probably an Ibo ritual object which had been taken as booty by the Emir or one of his predecessors and had belonged to an important Ibo leader. The Ibo term for the emblem roughly translates as 'Seal of Majesty' or some similar synonym, and ritual objects of this type could have been found in many museums in eastern Nigeria before the Biafra War. This ritual of anointing of a senior chief is one of the features of Ibo culture which they claim links them to Judaic influences in the past if not to an actual connection with Judaism.

There is every likelihood that the goblet was originally booty taken from a slaving raid on an Ibo settlement and which had originally belonged to a senior Ibo Chief. Dr Ojukwu says that his particular clan of the Ibo have a proverb which roughly translated is more or less 'Those who came from the North found us a People and left us a Nation. They brought with them the Wisdom of the Great God who is above all, and charged us with the task of remembering Him in all that we do.' Many Ibo rituals, such as anointing, circumcision of males after eight days (but no female circumcision, which is unusual for Africa), the wearing of fringed garments on ceremonial occasions, etc, have strong similarities to Jewish customs. It is generally believed that the Jewish traders first csme to the Ibo lands sometime around the early 13th Century and ceased their visits sometime after the mid-15th Century when the climate of the Sahel changed radically from savanna to arid desert. As for the Magen David emerging as a Jewish symbol in Eastern Europe, we have been unable to find any information as to the origins of this symbol in North and West Africa and when it became identified as an Ibo if not a specifically Jewish symbol. The Ibo remain firmly convinced that it testifies to the Judaic links to their culture.

Thanks for at least partially corroborating the information from my Ibo contact concerning the origin of the Six-Pointed Star as a traditional Ibo/Igbo symbol. I think that we may safely say that Lord Lugard, for all his estimable work as the Colonial Governor of Nigeria, may possibly have jumped to a hasty conclusion regarding the origin of the emblem which he incorporated into the Badge of the colony. Obviously further research needs to be done on this point, which is probably not flag related but certainly is anthropological. Lord Lugard's asctription of the six pointed star to a Hausa Emir might have been somewhat hastily made. He may well have lacked the more detailed knowledge that we have now, and I think that without definitely ascribing the emblem to the Ibo some mention should be made of the fact that it is more an Ibo rather than a Hausa symbol.


Ron Lahav, 3-4 November 2008

hey eze, use the Yoruba model to build your new country.  You need a commonwealth. You need diversity or your tribe will die off!

. . . . country home in creeks? dont you mean boat house?

Once a vibrant powerful ethnic group in Nigeria the Igbo is now a minority in the new geopolitical structure of Nigeria.

you thank Gej for that. . . ijaw is the new majority and mainstream voice in the East.

beaf has been lying to them with his SS/SE coalition vision.  They got their eye fixated on Port Harcourt and what to do with it. . . . lol!   blind leading blind!!   beaf is going to sell your creeks to the ibos and you will need papers to go anywhere on your own land. ibo christian will be segregated from ijaw christian. . . the two cannot intermarry. shyytt

Innocent and law abiding citizens whose only crimes have been their industriousness, mobility, and Christianity continue to face the threat of extinction everyday.

wtf! innocent and law abiding. . .hehehehe. . . I guess Kabiru Sokoto is innocent and law abiding too. Did you tell UN that armed robbery was introduced by ibos, did you tell them human kidnapping was introduced by ibo? Yeah, people just hate you because you are traders and merchants. So why are Hausas who have been trading for hundreds of years across the savannah not hated, why are Yorubas who have traded for hundreds of years across the West African belt not hated? To cap it all they throw christianity in there for a joke. big fvckery! Did you tell UN that before a Nigerian discrimination against you, you have for the entire time you have had christianity you practice discrimination against your own people by segregating freeborn christians from osu christians?


and then this shhyt. . .

Today we have decided to bring to the attention of the International community the enormity of the crime against humanity, the despicable carnage, the pogrom, the ethnic cleansing going on in Nigeria today.

Let's bring all the handicapped children and the abnormal births of your society that were dumped in the forest to rot away. . . bring them back to life to testify infron of this international community. You practice euthanasia in your culture and society against your own children and people . What could be more inhumane and crime against humanity than that.?

How did you think the oil industry got to be controlled by the SW? it will keep being turn by turn until full resource control is achieved, those with oil under thier land should mine it and pay tax, same for those with cocoa, or whatever, thats the simple way forward.

. . . .and guess who has advocated that resoursecontrol?  Yorubas!  The West has continously said people need to have full control of their resources but there is a power struggle in the SS and SE that makes that impossible.  Before Gej became president voices in the SS was splintered into factions.  His presence atthe center has given a convergence of interests but has not removed the greed.  You have saboteurs in your SS/SE region who are scared of loosing out in the event that oil resource control is given to the indigenes.  It is better to prtray and blame others for it, . . . like they blame Yoruba sitting on their oil, than to localize the problem as an SS issue.

@negro nts
Grow a brain where you are currently cultivating fungi

lol. . .if i bully you now you go start to bring toy planes and caricature cartoons out.  but i will excuse your childish naivete this time.  go back into consice analysis of issues or get da fvck out of this hot oven

why didnt they start the SNC call with their neighbors, the SE leaders?  Why come to West for SNC meeting when they could have taken that to Abuja. . . .these elders have witnessed different republics in Nigeria and know the West disposition.  What has Ooni and HID gotta do with SNC?  Albeit, they have a lot to do with unleashing political dogs to bring Gej down.  The visit was to amend with West/

Look, AYM just did the same thing last week in Ibadan visiting OPC over a three or four day meeting and in attendance with Afenifere.  Everyone know who has the power to destabilize the country politically and they are careful not to offend or ruffle feathers unecessarily.

. . . .and will this private firm have a subordinate power over the Nigerian Navy?  
. . . .and if a Yoruba man become President next and decide to privatise the air patrol and borders with an OPC loyalist?
. . . .and if a Hausa man become President and decide to privatise police with ex bokoharam loyalists and post them to the SS?

You all must work to protect your interest but at the same time use wisdom to safeguard your preservation in a Nigerian nation post Gej rule.

Your SS campaign leader, Beaf, has no such sense and foresight to think ahead or see the interwoven dynamics of regional and national politics/ The quicker you all depart from his madness the better for you. I hope you will not become the new ibo of Nigeria after Gej. They are in their predicament now because they lacked foresight to appreciate strengths and the value of partnership.

dont take it personal dude. . . this is politics, national politics! It is not like the country is having a sweeheart moment right now, you know. . . everyone is beginning to identify his fatherland. I have no love for anyone in support of deploying boots and guns on my soil. . . .much more give them concession of my backwaters. Hell no!!

if we accept maritime control in hands of private firm, what else should we accept to be privatized, the federal police force?   Yeah, how about give police force concession to Abu Qaqa, he can patrol and enforce law over land since MEND loyalists will patrol water.

I dont know how they reason in that creek i tell ya!  must be the water they drink and swim in. . . lol

I don't see anything great in the concessioning of maritime security to a private firm, so long as they are Nigerian and they are capable

this creek mumu say as long they are capable. you need to take your participation to food section, your responses will be much appreciated over there. W

bawss, go ahead and give your response on the analysis and the responses.

That retar ded boy (beaf) goes around whining about how Yoruba are sitting on their oil. When we give him an earful he freaks out and bring out toys and cartoons to make noise that has no relevance to what is being discussed. He is fearful of bullies so he uses these toys to hide his fear. I had to call his fvcking a s s out on that. . . . . bombastic punk!

Stupid fvcker like yaself want to teach.  Teach who and what?  lmao!!  

Dude. . . .I wasnt raised in the creek, my people learn in words and not in toys and cartoons and caricatures.  When you learn to speak in wirds . . . .matured adult words, then come back and exprewss yourself, tell what you can teach to somebody more savvy than you are in national politics.   Right now your reta rded caricatures and toys display are not making sense.