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Tinubu need to endorse Nimbe or we will decamp him in Lagos.

Who's "scobsult"? Where do you hail from? Your claim already gave you away that your are not lagosian but a wannabe.

When you all figure it out let us know.

Abagworo,

Each time I ask somebody I ge a different story on who is Igbo and who is not. Yesterday I asked somebody and he was making blunders but it appeared I was getting it until one of you guys came in and stopped him.

I hear you say Igbo is not any one person like Oduduwa or Bayajjida but then that makes Igbo indigeneous. Soon as I sink that in and settle down, then I get somebody say Igbos are from smewhere else.

So I'm going to ask you from my understanding yesterday, Eri was a settler who setted in Nri. Aro was a confederacy of Igbo clans. These clans through their confederacy dominated Eri and so the settlers were absorbed in.

But we know in some cases of such settler/aborigine contact some things are lost and others are gained. For example, fulani settled and became ruling class in North but the aborigine retained its language and took the settler's religion.

In the case of Yoruba, the settler replaced everything belonged to the aborigine except the environment itself.

Use these examples to explain the gain/loss between Aro/Eri. I'm assuming Aro are aborigines but that's probably wrong.

Also, in almost every culture the ruling class is almost always the settler. Aro as a ruling class must itself be a settler over some aborigines. If Aro is aborigine then something is wrong with Eri to be so wimp as to allow domination by the aborigine. Partiularly it is said that Eri came from Afro-Asia, no Afro-Asiatic group came to any sub saharan part of Africa and was subdued and dominated by the aborigine or a pre-existing settler.

Something is wrong in Eri unless these people telling his story did not understand uit well.

Help me out.

I hope ekt moves this topic out of here. Gd nite!

There is only one gate to deliverance. That way is through penitence.

What esu's food? What do we give in ritual to esu? Yam, right?

Shall we call tht frustration?

Did not Jesus say those who are chosen will be put to a test harder to test their faith?

No to Jinn!

Amorphous,

There are 7 days for creation in genesis. Each day represent a cosmic deity manifesting

Lol babe, no vex!

I love esu myself. No human is born again without first going thru Esu.

Esu s not devil.

Esu is a malevolent force through which the human character is disciplined or it goes through cleansing. It is the reformer, the transformer, the change catalyst, the enforcer.

Babe, yes because there is nothing wrong with it.

I used the Bakare as a good example beause there is a pastor named Tunde Bakare.

If you ask pastor Tunde Bakare to change his name to Tunde Esusanmi he will object and tell you it is not fitting with his role as a minister of God. Bu does he know that Abubakar was an idol worshipping Priest if the Meccan tribes in time of Mohammed?

I wonder if he even knew its arabic name.

Esu is a paradoxical energy. On the other side of it is obatala

They then charged people to go in museum and see these arts. Some of what they call arts are actually objects of worship.

I once went to an arts exhibition where an ekpe full regalia, from top to bottom, was on display. Very colorful! When I came in front, even though I'm not efik, I recognized what I was staring at and I looked away and left.

Precisely! In full its abubakar.

So on the land and before oyibo we had ogboni and osugbo cults, they were the custodians of our customs and philosophical thoughts. When oyibo arrived what were some of the first things they did?

Took our references from us. They raided and took objets of worship and artifacts and arts and either destroyed or confiscated them totally

Let's say for instance a name like Akingbade. What does it mean? Its two separate names joined to form one.

Akin - warrior/braveheart

Ade - crown/regent

Then let's consider name like Tunde Bakare.

Tunde is shortened for babatunde meaning the father is reincarnated.

How about Bakare? What does it mean in Yoruba?

The Bible and the Quran did not confuse us about these things. We confused ourselves

Dang, I wish ekt had opened this post in religion.

Ehhm. .
See, to understand esu, obatala, and all thse gods you will need to open your self to see Genesis in a new way other than what u read in letters

Tpia,

No he wasn't.

Hold on Andrew, pls keep your thoughts till the thread is moved. Ok?

Okayn I see where this things is going to progress. I don't like talking religion outside of its designated section. This is going to get ugly soon.

Odumchi, I will hold till its moved, depends on what ekt_bear decide.

I was curious when u said the Yoruba and Igbo meaning are close. So I went back hoping it was explaied but no.

Before english, what did it mean ?

Then u should be able to support my guy.

Hey Dayo, I need your support for a candidate.

Ngo "the brute",

Lol! Beside the monkey and the baboon and chimpanzee, do you have any other animal? Why is everybody one of these animals eh?

Do you have parrots, chameleon, donkey, you know

Odumchi,

What does ekwesu mean?

What part u from

No, I see you answered it on familiarity with island.

You asked what area I'm of Lagos I'm from. Two areas,

Idungaran/Obun Eko

Epetedo

That answer doesn't tell me yes or no to my question

Rotflmao!! Oh my God!

Tpia,

Are u very familiar with lagos island proper? Isale Eko! Lol

Lmao! I want to negotiate a deal. . .I can give you mention that will blow your mind on one of these questions u asked.

Oh yeah she had kids. Her descendants still live in Lagos.

There were two problems:

1. Yoruba cults - Ogboni, Osugbo.

2. Translation

Before I share what I mean here let me first ask same question I have asked on various forums and coultdnt correct answer to.

Who is Neferu Tintin?