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This is a useless article from a pro-wahabi cleric,
I think action speaks louder than voice, if any part
of this letter is to be taken as fact , then there should
be several Shiite terrorists causing havoc around the world , however, that is not the case as 99.99% of terrorist are the same Sunni this pseido-cleric is trying to
defend.

If being non-violent is labelled as "dangerous" , then I think being "dangerous" is better than being a terrorist.

bytemeister:
August live from 23 September 63 BC – 19 August 14
AD so there is no way he wouldn't have met/heard of Jesus if he(Jesus) actually walked this earth

The only plausible explanation for Augustus not having met jesus will be that
jesus was unknown outside his remote village.

NwaJesusteete:
ppl should stop deceiving themselves pls. Bible still remain bible nothing had changed in it. The bible we usé today has two parts of old and the new testaments. The old testament has to do with d jews and the mosaic laws combined. Then christ came to put many wrongs rt in the old testament. He says 'i came not to condenm the law but to put it rt' offcourse not all but few; not neccessarily cos they r sins but cos they have no meaning as to their lifes, now he says thou shall not judge;and thou shall not kill, hence there is no much différence btw the christians and their musilem brothers judgin from the old testament but the coming of christ makes différence cos we used to sloughter the infidels like chiken untill christ intervened with his own philoslphy of leave everything for me. So their is no confusion in the bible. Thanks,

You mean god was wrong in the old testament ?
How come he never apologized for unjustly punishing
the israelites ?

malvisguy212:
are you an atheist? You are assuming God to be man. God is not the cause of evil, He only allowed evil to exist for man to have option to chose from.

He already knows the choices that invalidates any notion of choice.

Your logic is warped, on one hand you believed god created everything
and has power over all but on the other hand you think he is not responsible
for what happens afterall.

If you think he is not human why does he behave and act like humans(the evil cold-hearted one)
most of the time ?

And again when you go for evangelism(I assume you do), why don't you tell your
victims the truth about who that god is instead of qualifying him as a "caring father"
even though he isn't any close to being a father because we all know what father's
does best.
You refuse to preach the true face of god as the man who allows evil to happen and
watches in amusement. You knew no one will adopt such a god that is why you carefully
alter his image to serve your own purpose.

From your comment, are you saying that god was a liar when he
said this:

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7

malvisguy212:
Do we want to say that God is the “cause” of evil? That language is certainly problematic, since we usually associate cause with blame.

This your last statement contradict everything you wrote.
An all-knowing , all-powerful being is "testing humans" ?
That is pure wickedness because he already know the
outcome.

We can't even call it a game because the setting is unfair.
It is no different from a father leaving guns carelessly in
the house and warning the children not to play with it or
they will die. Then later one of them for shooting the other
dead.

Even if we assume he doesn't know the children will "disobey"
him(in god case, god knew the outcome), what differentiate that "father"
from a monster in human flesh ?

Aren't you disturbed by the notion that you are just another pawn that
will be sacrificed if need be for the glory of the master ?

Is it not problematic that a father purposely inflict death and suffering on
his children(slaves) just to prove a point ?

DONSMITH123:
my guy this is another injustice in Nigerian judiciary system. I don't understand this country called Nigeria and that might be the reason why some ethinc group wants to pull out from it. How on earth will a right thinking judge sentence a thief that stole that amount of money to death by hanging and sentence another person that stole 2.2 billion niara 74 days in prison with an option of paying 3 million naira fine.
A shameless country.

Even though the judgement appears distasteful,
it is however in line with our constitution.
Robbing with arms attract death sentence
no matter the amount involved.

A fraudster who fleeced people of billion of naira
is more innocent than an armed robber who made one
thousand naira.

Instead of crcifying the judge for doing his work,
it is better to call for constitutional amendment.

Though it is quite awkward to defend an armed robber.

It is Buhari's incompetence that led us
into this crisis.

LEGALAide:
tribalism even in Nairaland?

How does stating a fact equal to tribalism ?
You can't draw me into that pit because I
don't belong there.

princeogbeide1:
Can uuu state the contributions of Philip Emeagwali in the development of computer technology" am willing to know them from you

He made contributions to super computing speed,
not internet or wireless technology.

princeogbeide1:
If not for Phillip Emeagwali, wireless Internet communications wouldn't have been intensely experienced in the globe"

You need to read more!
Philip emeagwali has nothing to do with wireless technology
or even the internet for that matter.

The rest of this list is mostly accurate.

madridguy:
Enemy of the progressive party will invade this thread now to start vomiting trash even when they know the plate number is not Nigeria.

Does that change the fact that fuel is scarce ?

Defending APC has turned most of you to zombies where you see everything
as an attack on Buhari.

Mind you this picture is not a news , it is just an illustration.

BTW, what is progressive about the disaster currently happening in Nigeria

@Ajibolatao
All those "miracles" you listed are merely circumstantial
or coincidences as their is nothing special about them.

When you say ants "talk" do you mean voice out ?

If you meant "communicate" then it is unfortunate that
you considered that a miracle, even viruses and bacteria
do communicate, so what is special about multicellular
organisms communicating.

Also it is on record that most literatures about arab thoughts of
the time of muhamad didn't survive islam intolerance, so you can't just credit
the prophet with all the knowledge associated with him.


An idea being confirmed by science does not make the
propounder a supernatural entity.

There are thousands of ideas running through peoples minds
which may later be confirmed to be correct, that is not evidence
for any god.

Aufbauh:
Braithwaite please wait for the appointed time as their prosecution charges are undergoing press up in PMB's memo.
And don't forget to caution the wailing wailers not to start weeping all over the places shouting Witch hunting, political persecution, selective justice and dictatorship when the jungle has mature.

Can't you think straight for once ?
When does it become an offense for a corrupt person to
be charged to court.
If Buhari isn't afraid of wailers when he is making his lopsided
appointments , how come he is scared to prosecute corrupt
politicians due to the fear of wailers.
SMH.

Pheals:
this day live... koo this day dead niii y U dey read news wey dey Don post since August 3months ago.... they Don recover it now mtchewww

Buhari and el rufai have been making claims about returned loot sine june of this year.
Why do you think no one knows the amount of recovered loot ?
It is because nothing have been returned.

plappville:
1.Stop doing gra gra.. calm down and listen to him. He has been making alot of sense but you resisting by twiating scriptures.The father of the victim has the right to refused the marriage. But he must collect the price of breaking his daughter's virgin. You must know that certain laws in the OT are Mosaic laws. The children of Israel were very hard hearted. Moses had to create certain laws for daily guidance etc. See what Jesus told the Pharisees when they were asking him if they still have the right to divorce and remarry because moses allowed them to do so. Jesus replied them.


Matthew 19:8 ►Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

2.. God never intended man to marry plenty wives no divorce his wife. The fact that many prophets in the bible married more than one wife was not an order from God. It doeant means God was pleased with them doing such. This is what you should understand.

1. So you agree that the old biblical laws were man made.
And what is it with being hard hearted , as far as I know nobody
wants their life to be controlled by others.
I will assume that the killing of witches, stoning of adulterers to death
even Samuel shredding his fellow human(Agog) to pieces.

If that is the case why was god while evil was being perpetrated
in his name ?


2. Was god annoyed with the prophet for marrying more than one wife ?
If yes , why didn't he voice his concern since the prophets unlike other
people usually follow his will ?
Or did god make a compromise so as not to lose the prophets ?

helen4:
people like you though ..................

What is your point ?

Congrats to her.
I hope the twins were not bought from the market.

kinkymax:
Am miffed by som of d responses am seein here, ppl re fast to condemn d Mustapha guy for avin sex wt a minor,, hypocrisy at its peak. Who amongst doz responding can walk away if a 17yr old gal come seducing dem in their own rum,, even pastors na by grace of God dem no go fall for temptation. A 17yr old minor dat knows hw to Bleep without letting her parents kno already kno d right from wrong... D babe is jst an attention seeker and a shameless individual,,,,

Because others do it does not give audu the right to do it too.
He even went to the extreme of sharing a minor with his friends and family.
A wrong is a wrong no matter who the perpetrator is.

solpet419:
From the emails revealed to us, we can clearly see that sugarbelly is mentally derailed. She needs help seriously. She lost a rich man's son and she became so bitter about it. Prosecutors need to charge her for a lot of things. Image deformation one of them. I can't imagine cooking up a lie like that. But I give kudos to the girl Sha. She is a fine actor. She got many people feeling for her. But the lies are over and we can all move on.
Sugarbelly sugarbelly sugarbelly!!!! How many times I call u. U are finished with that your mother's friend that supported u.

Any prosecutor that charges her is simply incompetent and foolish.
You said it yourself, "mentally derailed", How can a sane
judge hear such case.

Should the case get to court audu will surely pay for his crime.

shiinihost:
reread what I wrote up there, dunce. Like I said, it was never rape. The rape incident she described merely happened in her deranged mind. Trust me, that birch is as deranged as Hell!

So a man who constantly sleeps with a deranged person
and even invited his friends to the feast is innocent ?
SMH.

Eruditor:
Hmmm.

It took a lot out of me to make this little post. I am with Tonyebarcanista on this. Her stories have too many holes to be borne from a genuine heart. I personally think she is trying to wreck him because she's detailing the story in a way that amplifies everything he did wrong and not how she consented or was culpable herself. For instance, she claims to be 26 now which means she had to have been 18 in 2007. Why this is significant is because she has consistently maintained she was 17 even in 2008. It is mischievous because she is trying so hard to make it look like some form of statutory rape (even if it appears the legal age for Nigeria is 16), but it wasn't statutory rape. In his defence, he can always claim he thought she was 18 (but that's another story).

Secondly, just like another poster mentioned, Bashir has raped her before then the same Bashir is being summoned to lose his virginity to her days/weeks after. It just doesn't make sense. Abdul Ogohi's father was the chief of Defence Staff between 1999-2003, 4 years before the 2007-2008 era. Yet she conveniently describes him as the son of the chief of Army staff, just to portray this false image of his father being in power at the time and being able to shut her up or package her in "pieces" as she subtly alludes.

It is very possible she was involved in orgies with him and friends (even though it makes no sense for a jealous boy friend). But it is a hard sell to claim she was constantly raped and abused as she claims. Sugarbelly has a history of sounding neurotic and embellishing stories with no corroborating evidence. She once claimed she got 406 in JAMB and when she was called out for it, she refused to back down and defended it to heaven and back. Very risible.

a story without holes have never been told!
If what you wrote up there is true then audu is a
pervert who took advantage of an unstable mind.

He isn't different from a person sleeping with a
mad woman on the street , then proudly claiming it is not
a rape because the mad woman consented to it.
We all know that wouldn't fly in the face of the law.

As to whether she was 17 or 18 , remember that someone can be 17 and 18
within the same year.

shiinihost:
stfu. nobody took advantage of sugar belle. the raped only happened in her deranged mind. She's the one taking advantage of the relationship she once had with mustapha to blackmail him. I've date a girl like that.....just ordinary kissing she would describe it as If we had a 3some.

Are you part of the Audu's gang ?
You write as if you took part in the said gang rape/3some.

Even Audu himself have not denied the act , he only claim
that it wasn't a rape.

Well, I am not surprised that you defended audu because you lots
are birds of a feather.

malvisguy212:
wow, ignorance is a disease, the mosaic law is only for the Jews. You are afraid to ask questions in the quran because you may abandoned islam:

Allah and Muhammad discourage Muslims from asking questions. From infancy Muslims are groomed to abstain from questioning the tenents of Islam.

Surah 5:101-102: “O ye who believe!
ASK NOT QUESTIONS about things
which if made plain to you, may
cause you trouble …Some people
before you did ask such questions,
and on that account lost their
faith.” (Yusuf Ali)

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 3,
Number 92:
Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet was
ASKED about things which he did not
like, but when the questioners
insisted, the Prophet got ANGRY.

EVEN SO, WE STILL NEED TO ASK:
Why did Allah and Muhammad
discourage people from asking
questions? What is Islam trying to hide?
Is blind faith the way to Islam? Why did Muhammad become angry at those who asked him questions? Why were people warned by Allah not to ask questions?
How is that in Islam, questioning can
lead to losing one’s faith? Does not this prove that even the right answers can lead to losing one’s faith in Islam?

Only an information control cult would
discourage anyone from asking
questions. Is it rational to accept any one religion as the true religion without
investigating or questioning it? Surely
not! Therefore, we will now question
Muslims about the teachings of Islam.

I am done with you, I thought you had something to say in the first
place.

Pointing fingers won't do you any good , it is better you re-evaluate your
faith and decide whether the racist
and inconsiderate yahweh is worthy of being called your god.
I will seriously do self-evaluation if the law of my god becomes a thing
to be ashamed of it only goes to show that such gods were scam to begin with.

If you had any inclination of the Quran , you would have known that it
also derives its extreme laws from the bible.
Yahweh and his consorts with their jewish supremacist theories is obviously one of the authors
of the confusion we have in the world today.

If audu's wife is right, then audu is in serious trouble because taking advantage of an unstable person is itself a crime.

Is it not surprising that the wife who wasn't in the picture when the going was good is the one narrating the same story.

malvisguy212:
this guy is ignorant of his quran, do you want me to provide the same claims in the quran ? Do you think the law was meant to save human?

The bible is under scrutiny not the quran.
Your deflection of every question I ask shows
that you tacitly agree that biblical laws are inhuman and barbaric
and you don't want to be seen approving of such.

It doesn't matter if you can quote the quran or not but what is
certain is that the mosaic/yahweh law is one of the most inhuman
laws in history.

Laid2001:
You brought no evidence of all your assertions against the Audus. You never want to accept that you fell for the useless sugarbelly lady's lies.
Barcanista has presented his evidences to back up his own assertions and hence for now we have to accept it as it was with the proof.

It seems the meaning of "evidence" have changed.
When did an opinion become an evidence ?

Mind you the girl never said they weren't in a relationship
just that she was at the receiving end of the audu's pervasion.

Proofs you say, but none shows that the girl wasn't gang raped.

You chose to believe what you considered to have happened.
Reality and Wishes aren't the same.

malvisguy212:
1. God gave the isrealite law to show them how unable the will attain the Holiness of God with human effort.
2. The law only show the weakness of man, if God should send the holy spirit without given the law, still you will complained why dint He send the law.

From the biblical stories the israelite never wanted to attain any "holiness" ,
it is yahweh that wanted them to do it by force

1.You mean god was toying and experimenting with peoples life
with no regard for the effects it will have on them even though he
knew they are going to fail ?

He gave the law himself , he wasn't forced to do it,
why blame man for the mistakes of god ?

2. When did god start to fear human complaints ?

malvisguy212:
no what came out of you is trash.

God said "thou shall not kill"(though his prophets are exempted),
you rub that on people's face, "he our god is just".

But when god said a rapist must marry his victim, you claim
it is man's fault.

Why cherry-pick the words of yahweh ?
Do you know better than him ?

malvisguy212:
21. God gave the isrealite law to show them how unable the will attain the Holiness of God with human effort. 2. The law only show the weakness of man, if God should send the holy spirit without given the law, still you will complained why dint He send the law.

1.You mean god was toying and experimenting with peoples life
with no regard for the effects it will have on them.

He gave the law himself , he wasn't forced to do it,
why blame man for the mistakes of god ?

2. When did god start to fear human complaints ?

Jeloma:
Leave these gullible and ignorant people. Right from when this bullshit story came out, I never believed it and when I expressed this, you should have seen the insults I received. Some even went as far as accusing me of being among the rapists! I really don't get why people would believe a story with no concrete evidence! It doesn't make any sense whatsoever, and I believe it's only irrational, illogical people that would do so. Anybody can come on a social media platform and just make up any story, and it would be foolhardy to believe any of it. Some people would just never get it, show them proof from today till tomorrow, they'll still believe sugabelly's lies, and to make matters worse, she's a known liar on twitter and instagram (more reason not to believe her story). Maybe it's because a governor is involved, that's why they believe this story.

You are the ignorant one here and those accusing you
are probably right. Abusers usually defend themselves.


How can you say a story is false without any evidence ?

I will believe your side of it if you were part of the story
from the beginning, otherwise you are just showing solidarity
for future sake.

malvisguy212:
trash, when evil befall you, what moral lessons are you to learn in it ? Will you continue to live by that standards ?

Are you saying that the law of god is trash ?
Mind you, I didn't insert that verse into the bible.
And I am surprised that you think the law of god is evil.

liquidsnake:
This is for the benefit of those who may reason along with Rilwon.

There is no where God command man to rape or disrespect women in such ways in the Bible. The verse simply state a scenario: if a man rapes an unpledged virgin woman, he must marry her and must not be allowed to divorce her because he violated her. This was a provision from God to protect young girls and women from rape and molestation from sex crazed men.

How does that result to Rilwon's conclusion that God commands men to rape women?? That is twisted reasoning.

Rilwon, before you cast a stone against another, why not review what your religion, the so-called "religion of peace" teaches its followers to do to "infidels". And stop displaying your lack of understanding of a simple English statement.

That verse is basically encouraging rape by auto-bequething a rape victim to her abuser.
The verse is saying that raping a girl automatically means marriage, I am very sure perverted
men will be too happy to take advantage of that.

All a pervert need to get a girl is just to rape her and she is all his forever.