₦airaland Forum

Bevista:
Citizens Power!
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We need to continue demanding accountability from this government and any future government. It is commendable that the administration, atleast, gives a damn about MAJORITY public opinion.

Wailer sighted

baby124:
Then call EFCC for him. Why all the media accusations. The one I want them to probe is Delta state. That state suppose pass Dubai by now.

Buhar's EFCC ?
You must be joking.

obailala:
They are released and then re-arrested again; there lies your own answer, it is a loophole in the law.

For so long, the elite have always exploited loopholes in the constitution to escape their grievous crimes with just a slap on the wrist. But these days, it appears with the political will, the FG is now checkmating the elite my also exploiting constitutional loopholes.

Releasing an accused from custody has nothing to
do with the elite, it is a universal right enshrined in our constitution
but because our dysfunctional security agents have turned
themselves to gods and will detain a suspect
as long as they wish, many Nigerians have come to believe(erroneously)
that they are helpless against the system.


Releasing an accused from custody is not a loophole, it is called human rights,
you cannot indefinitely detain an accuse without
a court order. No sane country does that.

This is the case of FG sacrificing Nigeria's
constitution on the alter of fighting corruption.

Tell us what is the benefit of keeping the accused in custody ?

If they turn out not to be guilty , will FG refund their lost time ?

tuale4u:
If a man is accused of stealing N1billion, and he goes to court and the SANs, with all their shenanigans and technicalities, using the Constitution, to say you have committed a bailable offence whereas the consequences are more than what is bailable, then you are able to get bail; then tomorrow, we find that you have stolen another billion naira, that is another offence and, therefore, you should be arrested. To me, once you get a bail for a particular offence, that does not mean you cannot be arrested for another offence.As far as I’m concerned, the government has even been very gentle and constrained in doing its job and dealing with this monster of corruption.

Prof Odekunle

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/i-dont-believe-in-unmoderated-rule-of-law-prof-odekunle-sagay-committee-member/ProfessorFemi

You dodged my question,

Even if an accused is rearrested for another offence , how long can the accused be legally held in custody ?

BTW, sagay's believe [b]is not the Nigeria's constitution,
indefinite detention without a court order is a flagrant abuse
of our constitution, you know that don't you ?

obailala:
Which court order was disobeyed?... A man was released by the courts and then re-arrested for another crime he committed; once again I ask, which silly court order was disobeyed?

Oh ye bloody wailers, why cant you guys just quietly bury your heads in shame and allow the rottenness of corruption to be dealt with?

How long can an accused be legally detained without a court order supporting such ?
There lies your answer.

tuale4u:
we are only saying Buhari should listen to Nigerian masses not PDP gang of thieves

Which Nigerian masses are you referring to ?
The market woman who is struggling to sell her wares or the
farmers that is busy on his farm.

Tell us how Buhari will listen to the masses who have no voice ?

You surely know so little about how government works.

tuale4u, your article is based on sheer ignorance,
your mindset made you take Buhari as a god is the same
one that made you assumed that Obama is
a god who must who must never be questioned.

Every thinking person knows that ALL humans
in position of power have a tendency to abuse, but that
appears to be of no concern to you.

Republican accuse Obama of dictatorship because of
his various attempts to arrogate the functions of the
US legislators.

The next time you want to write an article to glorify the dictatorial
traits of Buhari, you should do yourself good by checking for the
meaning of "Checks and Balances", without it , democracy exists
only on paper.

lordizak:
Yes, it invalidates any logic in that question.
Someone had contested for a post 3 times before, the 4th time because he emerged victorious u want to know who funded his election. That is delusional, because u have a conclusion in at heart, maybe that should just serve u. If the previous administration finds nothing to probe about OBJ, That means PMB is also correct about OBJ. You see, there is a difference between wanting to fight and knowing how to win. APC knows how win. Enough of ur juvenile attempt to paint Buhari black.

A burglar tried to rob 3 times but he was unsuccessful, but
he made a hit on the fourth attempt.
You are saying he shouldn't be questioned because he had tried
and failed in the past.

What sort of logic is that ?

kristisking:
Why are these people not saying the truth? They have been lieing about the whole thing. I am not justifying the high handedness of the nigerian army, but the truth is that those shiites got what they bargained for. To say that the army was not provoked is a big lie.

Is the army some kind of alien monster god that must be worshipped
or they kill you.

dustmalik:
And this is why I have always insisted that, dictatorship is what suits the black man. We don't deserve democracy.

Are you aware that your god also plans to buy 3.6 billion BMW cars ?
It is easy for you to ignore Buhari's recklessness and even justify them
because that is your job.

Yet another article demonizing critics of government failures.

@fratermathy
Athletes do not blame spectators for their failures, why should
you blame Nigerians for Buhari's failures.

Merely wishing a problem away does not solve that problem.

McSquishi:
As an American, I know I am not in a position to look down upon corrupt government practices. As others have pointed out our record re: Guantanamo & rendition alone is enough to give pause before judging.

I don't know enough about Buhari to give a full opinion, but I'm quite interested. Seeing the Post write about it interests me even more and makes me question the narrative bc I know many potentially great African leaders are often derailed in Western press. It seems as soon as something good may come for an African nation whom we've had our hands in the pockets of, we find a way to cast the leader/party/movement in a negative light (amongst other hands on tactics).

I would say though, that we should all be careful when we find ourselves willing to trade freedoms for security. Just bc the West does it doesn't make it right.

Your comment reeks with utter selfishness, why will you term indefinite detention and flouting
of court orders a good thing.

African have a history of leaders who transform from a self-acclaim "saviour" to despots(Idi Amin and Mugabe comes
to mind), it is the duty of the informed citizens to oppose such transitions.

How happy will you be if you or a relation is indefinitely detained by a government who believes it
has the moral right to do so even though the court says otherwise.

Note: I assume you are an american citizen who believes in democracy and human right, if not kindly
ignore my comment.

989900B:
There are have been american citizens detained in 'Gitmo' -- get your facts right.

BTW, doesn't he refer to Nigeria as the zoo which he is no part of, he claims to be a biafran, and would have nothing to do with the zoo -- he begged to be treated as a 'foreign threat' . . . you can't switch sides at will . . . c'mon!



P.S. Fxck the mod(s) that banned me for no apparent reason.

1. We contribute to this site, going forward, by extension your pockets.

2. If you are gon' ban me, at the least send me a mail stating why . . . be professional about it.

Well I'm at '989900B' password 'fxckthemods' . . . we can take this to 989900Z*** if you wish.

BTW, annoy me enough, and I'mma make sure your site goes down.

We are debating legality vs jungle justice here.
If an american citizen is detained , it is done according to their law(patriot act).
But the Nigerian case is totally different.

Tolexander:
Everyone has a right to say what ever pleases one.

I still remember Guantanamo bay, has it been finally closed down by US?

Stop using straw man argument , Guantanamo bay houses foreign terrorists,
and even if an american citizen is to be detained that way, it is backed by their law.
Just google patriot act to gain more insight.

PassingShot:
There was no sanctions not to buy from Russia, Turkey or Ukraine and many other countries. Only US was relunctant or refused to sell us arms.

No justification for buying with cash.

How many weapons have your god Buhari bought from Russia(or from anywhere else) since he assumed office ?

you need not sacrifice your reasoning for cheap political point and it is better not to comment on issues you are
grossly ignorant of.

Buhari banned Nigerians from buying foreign goods, but he is about to spend more than 6 billion Naira(including foreign travels)
on exotic not basic needs.
What a change!

Atk1nson:
I hope you know some governors in the south had a law that enabled them expropriate/destroy buildings and properties used by kidnappers for their sinister act and no one made this much noise. I know this policy was pursued in Anambra at a point in time when kidnapping got to a crisis level, and it yielded results.

Provided it is within the ambits of the governments powers and due process is followed, it is sane and welcomed. Drastic times require drastic measures.

God bless Nigeria

Your straw man argument is flawed, government destroyed kidnappers houses not the communities houses.
Guilty by geographical location is itself a grave injustice
which is only obtained in a jungle.
The difference is clear enough isn't it ?

adioolayi:
Crying time of the Rich is here....The Superrich are Crying.... The Poor are silent..they can't cry anymore, they are used to it

This policies only favours CLEAN BUSINESS.... No room for shady deals.

The gap between the rich and the poor gradually being shortened.

#EmefieleEconomics

That is not true, money is always circulating not stagnant,
so the poor will also feel the hardship(even more) as they experience low patronage
from their buyers.
That is why market people use to complain whenever government defaults in paying workers.
#EveryoneComplains

KingEbukasBlog:
Parrots mimic human speech

Mimicry and talking are wide apart,
if someone claims parrot mimic humans, no
one raises an eyebrow, but claiming parrots talks
is a magnanimous lie, unfortunately, it is the latter
approach the "holy books" took.

KingEbukasBlog:
If parrots were to be extinct and there's a story about a man who had a talking bird ...

No bird can "talk"(e.g go, come, get out) that is a fact.

If there is than a story of a "talking" bird then we know
that it is either a complete joke or an intentional lie and
the last place we would expect to see such deceitful stories is the
book that was supposedly inspired by god.

You just remind me of the legendary tortoise in African folktales,
if those story had been written down in a "book of god" many will
still have believed and even defended its veracity with all their strength.

KingEbukasBlog:
You have no proof that the bible is mythology . Everyone in the bible are historical figures . You can bury your head under a stone if you want

Oduduwa was also an historical figure, but his descension from heaven is mythical,
also mount olympus actually exist but there is nothing to prove that it is the dwelling
of the gods.

Assuming this is year 5100 and I told you that Nigeria once have a president(OBJ) who rode a flying horse
and use to revive dead people, would you believe me given that OBJ was an historical
figure and I emphasized that it is the unchanging truth ?

ba7man:
Can the Nigerian courts be trusted wholly?


A lot of judges still need lynching with how they corrupt justice.

So any judgement that goes against your wish must have been passed by
a corrupt judge ?

What a logic!

winner01:
The quotes are very accurate and you know it.

@ bolded, funny, you guys will say anything to clear your conscience.
Buh why even battle with your conscience?

I would assume it is only you who have access to the "preserved" bible.

winner01:
Thats your lame excuse, the existence of thousands of other gods.
You miss, thats a silly excuse to disregard the existence of the Supreme.


Try other excuses.

What is your excuse for regarding the "Supreme god" ?

Should we just accept it because you said so ?

vooks:
Once you get past the fact that chance can't produce a Subaru, I'd gladly walk you through the rest.

Creation is the alphabet of Christianity. How can you compose paragraphs without alphabets

Are you not concerned that your god intentionally hid information about how he created the universe ?

Here is your conundrum :
A stone fell from the sky,

You: Someone must have dropped it, oh
I know that person, he is the alpha and omega
the jewish ancestors talked about. He is the most powerful.

Can you review your logic and tell us how you bridged the gap between
a falling stone and a jewish god?

As to "chance" producing a Subaru, that is a misplaced analogy since subaru
is not the first of its type,
a more apt question will have been if chance can produce a wooden tyre.

winner01:
You'd wish i made such claim.
My point; think outside the box
Your interpretation; Your headache
You are certain Once again this shows how close minded you are.
You speak for all with certainty, how intelligent.
Well it will interest you to know that most atheists (on this forum at least) are, simply because of one emotional quake or the other. Its why they bring up the argument on "why bad things happen to good people" when freshly engaged, Its why they call God all sort of names. Do your research.
And how sure are you that most christians havent even read vastly than self acclaimd atheists?
The only difference is that we recognize and can filter out crap.
Stop trying so hard, atheism is not synonymous to science.

"An atheist is someone who is certain that God does not exist, someone who has compelling evidence against the existence of God. I know of no such compelling evidence." - Carl Sagan

The Bible stands tall always even throughout all the years science thought it had it right and the Bible got it wrong before more findings confirmed the scriptures.

Ill leave you with these quotes by Bernard Ramm.



“Jews preserved it as no other manuscript has ever been preserved. With their massora they kept tabs on every letter, syllable, word and paragraph. They had special classes of men within their culture whose sole duty was to preserve and transmit these documents with practically perfect fidelity–scribes, lawyers, massorettes.”

“In regard to the New Testament, there are about 13,000 manuscripts, complete and incomplete, in Greek and other languages, that have survived from antiquity.”

“A thousand times over, the death knell of the Bible has been sounded, the funeral procession formed, the inscription cut on the tombstone, and committal read. But somehow the corpse never stays put.”

“No other book has been so chopped, knifed, sifted, scrutinized, and vilified. What book on philosophy or religion or psychology or belles lettres of classical or modern times has been subject to such a mass attack as the Bible? With such venom and skepticism? With such thoroughness and erudition? Upon every chapter, line and tenet?”

“ The Bible is still loved by millions, read by millions, and studied by millions.”



Merry christmas.

Unforunately , all your quotes were hogwash but you chose
to accept them on faith.
It is a fact that no original pre-jesus bible manuscript exist,
so much for preservation.

ayoku777:
While his explanation might not be a definite proof of God, I get what he is trying to say.

The universe is the fabric of all things physical existence. The universe consists of space, time, matter and energy. It is the enclave of physical reality.

So if the universe has a beginning (according to the NASA diagram), it automatically means that there is another existence outside the physical existence (universe)

It means that there is something outside the universe (space, time, matter and energy); that pre-existed the universe (space, time, matter and energy); that created the universe (space, time, matter and energy); and controls the universe (space, time, matter and energy).

Something that pre-existed time, and doesn't dwell in time, but that created time and controls time. Same thing for space, matter and energy.

It means something exists out there outside physical reality. Something exists outside our universe (our space, time, matter and energy) where there should be "nothing". And that "nothing" is active and powerful enough to create the universe with its space, time, matter and energy.

It other words, outside the universe, outside our fabric of reality is an active, powerful and creative "nothing"

There is no scientific explanation for this other than the biblical definition of Elohim (God).

Its thought provoking actually, for those who need scientific objectivity to believe in God, or a God. But I don't even need scientific objectivity to believe in God.

Shalom.

Are there "things" that exist before the universe ?

Even if we are to believe that the universe has a beginning , there is nothing beyond
speculation to suggest that the "creator" himself does not have a beginning which create an
"infinite creators" problem.

It is wrong and out of place to try and "prove" the existence of a supposedly extra-logical creator using logic.

chinedu1nig:
Read before you comment... connect your mouth to your brain idiot... did you read anywhere ban is placed importation of machines?
this is a welcome policy except your family is into illegal business..

You are the one who lacks comprehension skills,
everything doesn't have to be spelt out for you.
I expected only those who understands the topic to
make comment.

Since there is no ban on importation, how do you pay
for your imported machines or goods ?

Blueray:
Unfortunately, no Christian leader or group will act in such a dumb way like your mentor El Zakzaky. See the video of how the very civilised Nigerian Army pleaded with youths brandishing weapons for an extended period to no avail. Why do you seek to play up our weak points which are really suppose to be our strong points alas for politics? You sound like one of those misguided fanatics who were rejoicing when boko haram was targeting only churches.

God is a God of vengeance (Romans 12:19)

Go and get a dictionary and check the meaning of civilized.
No civilized army will kill hundreds for blocking a road and
thereafter go back to their headquarters to kill more.

Beetobee:
Broaden your thinking. Do you know how grievous preventing the No.1 soldier in Nigeria is? In the US, if you raise a small pocket knife at a police officer from 50 meters away, he gun you down immediately as that is a threat to his life and the US government. In the video, I heard the riff raffs saying even if the President came their, the would allow him passage except their mallam authorized so. What more could have been done to the lawless creatures?

Your point is baseless as that road is a public road,
the Shiite block public road and the COAS happens to
be passing at the time(there were other starnded Nigerians)
and he decided that their punishment should be death.
As if that was not enough the military went to their headquarters
to kill more for constituting "nuisance", yet you are so full of
energy to defend such barbaric act.

They are "riff-raffs" and therefore must be killed, what a logic!

I don't know of anywhere in the world were the punishment for
blocking road is massacring an entire group of people.
Even ISIS will cringe at that kind of unwarranted attack.

As to a police in US shooting a man with a pocket knife, how many
medals of honor does he get for that ?
Is he proud of what he did or does he hide his head in shame ?

Do the citizens come out en-masse to condemn or praise such
officers ?

You might think you fare better than them but you could be the
next "riff-raff" and everyone will also be looking for reasons to justify
the army's atrocity against you.

snoopdg:
Man up here, think, think again and i say rethink, do you know what an army on assignment is? They duty and constitutionally backed to thread every nook and cranny of the state anytime for a legal duty democracy notwithstanding, you don't need to be in the military to know that what the sect members did was an effrontery to the federal government and republic, it's a shame on us as a country that a group could confront our COAS and say no way, no wonder the war on terror is proving difficult to be won because minds like you see no wrong in the activities of lawless sects like this, it's people like you who will first say the government is weak, if America had toyed will lawlessness, would be a place for all to run to? Please think like a man in the present world, the activities of the sect members can be sustained any any guise. The law and order must have its way for a glorious Nigeria to emerge.

There was neither a state of emergency or curfew in Kaduna on that day, Buratai is just
another Nigerian who was plying the road at that particular time and he deemed it fit
that the punishment for blocking road is death.
Yet ,you who claim to "think" sees nothing wrong in that.

However , I do understand your plight, very few people understand
the difference between a society and a jungle.

happney65:
Did you watch the video where the Generals where begging miscreants to give him way?Miscreants who where wielding cutlass and sticks threatening Generals of the Nigerian Army over a road that belongs to all us.Please go and watch the Video first..Even in the US,Nobody dares do such..I guess you know Americans are even being killed by the Police and they are discharged and acquitted by the Court..

If I am the Nigerian President and my Chief of Army Staff was made to turn back on a Nigerian road blocked by some hooligans, I'd sack him. The day the Chief of army staff is prevented from moving in this country, then who else can move around freely?

Thank You

We are so lucky you are not the president!

Shame is the summary of what you wrote.
Some "miscreants" block the road where hundreds of people pass through but
when your crude COAS got there he pulled out his gun and started killing the
miscreants and you have the guts to defend him.

If you want to live in a jungle where your life is as
important as that of an insect, kindly migrate there
together with your barbaric COAS.

In a sane country, Buratahi should have been sacked by now.