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This makes no sense, everyone claim "there is no light",
yet they are preventing PHCN from disconnecting the
nonexistent light, this is just a ploy to use free electricity,
the liar is obvious.

EmekaBlue:
Sure it's not consensual?! Just asking o

Why won't you ask, birds of a feather!

otokx:
The security/intelligence units in UK are slacking seriously.

Not really, their hands are tied, if they act aggressive they will be termed racist.

emmasege:
Heartfelt sympathy to the departed, the wounded and their loved ones.

Europe and the entire western world is only reaping the seed of years of neglecting Christ and the faith of their fathers. In the name of freedom of religion, you opened wide your borders to terrorists while it is a death warrant for Christians to openly practise the Christian faith in core Islamic nations. Why is there no such frequency and magnitude of terrorism in Russia? The answer is obvious.

Of a truth, blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!

I guess Nigeria is also reaping the seed of neglecting the gods of their forefathers ?
Please learn to be rational.

It appears this letter was publicised for a strong political reason.
Waiting for the other side of the story.

Mr. Ganduje said although he was reluctant to interfere in the activities of the state’s legislative arm, he appealed to the lawmakers to “temper justice with mercy” and allow peace prevail.

Ganduje is a liar.
It was all witch hunt, Ganduje instigated the house to investigate a phantom
corruption case because Sanusi spoke against corruption and also sent his
daughter to represent him at a function,
Why is Ganduje now pretending as if he knew nothing about the "investigation" ?

This is an advert in form of news.

Cunning man, he is applying the catch them young strategy
for the future Otobos.

That lecturer should be locked up, he is a disgrace to the learning institution.

breadtom:
See if you like belive this miracle or not that ur headache cos u pple here in Africa tink backward. TB Joshua may God continue to bless u and give the grace to continue with ur ministry and also to format the brains of those who criticize you ignorantly.#Emmanuel(God is with us).

You are right, people who think backward easily believe in staged "miracles",
those who think forward know the truth.

Amberon:
What the doctor couldn't do in ten years, God did in a day. The man of God doesn't get any praise, God takes ALL the glory.

There are lot of things we don't know about their story, merely stating 10 years is meaningless.
When did they start seeing the Doctor ?
When did they stop seeing the Doctor ?
When did they conceive ?

As they say, the devil is in the details but I am
positive doctors deserve the praise here.

It is the desire to look and claim holiness that make
people take the "testimony" route.

TB Joshua media team are really trying but that won't stop the court case against him.

As usual , the god of man get the praises while the Doctor is relegated to the backgground.

chynie:
Nice
But can't ppl do good things without involving the camera

"Involving the camera" is the smart thing to do.

My point having been clearly articulated can be reiterated further as China's ban is security measure to protect itself from cyber infiltration especially via SM.

You make the wrong claim again, so I will assume you aren't versed
in cyber security and its implications.

China isn't banning the internet, it is more concerned with preventing
citizens from visiting certain sites that contains ideas it deemed "dangerous"
to the state.

A state with one of the largest state-sponsored hackers in the world coupled
with solid internet surveillance can't be said to be concerned about
its citizens security or privacy.

pressplay411:
Just commit a world crime and you'll realize how easy you're to track. They have your daily routine movements.
I'm speaking of security risk and exposure to cyber attack on a micro and macro level.
But for regular guys, all these don't even matter so keep socializing away.

You are changing the subject, here was your original claim:

China and other world powers realize the power SM wields which is why the allow little or no exposure to these sites. Not because they're backwards but because theyre forward thinking.

Don't try to mask your wrong assertion in "regular guys" mantra.
If you aren't a regular guy yourself, you should be able to differentiate
between security risk posed by hackers and a government spying and
banning its citizens from accessing some websites.

Yes, there are security risks involved with using the internet
as it is expected of such complex systems,
guess what the greatest risk to citizens freedom and privacy ?
It is the same repressive governments you praised for banning their
citizens from using certain websites.

People who are truly concerned about their security will completely
disconnect from the internet.

Xda59:
There is a big difference between publishing an interview and unconfirmed gossip stories just to draw traffic and that is the reason why Kemi olunoyo is languishing in jail. Journalism is not about publishing gossip stories like you have in nigeria where gossip stories are published without facts or evidence. I don't blame you because you grew up in a lawless and uncivilized society so you think everything goes.

All you needed to do is google the interview and watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mry1r_yAXkQ

The reason why you report a story is irrelevant, every civilized
have gossip blogs and websites.

Kemi has not been convicted of any crime, she is being remanded
because of the corrupt tendency of Nigerian judges when rich men are involved.
In a lawful country, Kemi would never have been remanded in prison and
by now the case would have been dismissed.

I bet you have you never left your village all your life
and you are just dreaming up how civilised country works.

Read more to expand your knowledge!

Xda59:
Go to a civilized country and publicize what someone else said without proof and see the outcome or you think ignorance is an excuse before the law? Linda's duty is to investigate and come up with evidence and not rush to publish it because she wants traffic. Always remember that "your rights end where mine begin".

I think it is you who need more exposure!
Journalists are protected under the freedom of speech,
reporting what someone say in an interview is a journalist
doing her job. That you think it should be a crime doesn't make it one.

pressplay411:
China bans these sights and you think it's because they don't know of what they're doing?

You are on every social media platform and online major websites wondering how social and blessed you are. Unknown to you is that you traded your privacy the moment you opened an account with these sites. Ever read their T&C or wondered why your GPS location is almost automatically turned on by certain apps?

China and other world powers realize the power SM wields which is why the allow little or no exposure to these sites. Not because they're backwards but because theyre forward thinking.

What are you doing on Nairaland ?
Which world power bans its people from visiting sites ?

He was inspired by Otobo

onyenze123:
neocortex



According to French historian Jean-Michel Deveau the slave trade and consequently slavery, which lasted from the 16th to the 19th century, constitute one of "the greatest tragedies in the history of humanity in terms of scale and duration".

Scale : "It is estimated that between 25 to 30 million people, men, women and children, were deported from their homes and sold as slaves in the different slave trading systems"

Duration: 400years

Do you see how erroneous your reply is?

I can't see how 25-30 million people fit into your description of sold captured warring enemies.

So the 25 million were ghosts or specifically manufactured for slavery?
Yes, they were captured enemy soldiers or sometimes condemned criminals.

You could have made your point without quoting an outrageous figure,
expert agree that the slaves traded in the trans-atlantic trade ranges from 12-15
million not the 25 million you quoted from a lone historian who probably have
an agenda of making you feel inferior to him.

The sold slaves were Africans and the traders and slave-raiders were
also Africans.

The arab slave trade lasted for 1100 years, of which 12-17 million
people were traded.

Again point to any culture that have never been enslaved ?

Scale and duration is meaningless as the circumstances
and motivating factor for slavery differs across cultures.
If you consider that Sub-saharan Africa is a very diverse
territory and any identity given to such is a modern
invention, then everything will make sense to you.

Did I ever say it is an Africa thing? I asked to show me a race that was subjugated to that unprecedented level of subjugation, humiliation and maltreatment at throughout history. I guess you don't have the answer to that.

Their is nothing unprecedented about the treatment of slaves during the Trans-atlantic slave trade,
a slave is treated like a slave not a royal, is that too hard to comprehend ?

About 1.2 million europeans were enslaved by the arabs, but I have never
come across a European who regard the Arabs as being of superior intelligence
or cry to high heaven on how inferior they are to the arabs.

I think what confuses many of you guys is the word "black", when in reality
there was neither black identity nor unity during the slave trades and blacks
held other blacks from enemy territory as slaves.

The victim-complex as been perpetuated by you is one of the reason for Africa's
backwardness, one would expect that those who are more enlightened will
have a unique perspective on social issues, unfortunately, reverse is the case.
Self-pity and self-condemnation don't go with development.

Correct (and it was possible because of the industrial revolution that happened at that time). It is important to note they actually stopped it because it was no longer profitable since machines could do most of the jobs done by slaves much more efficiently courtesy of Sir Isaac Newton motion laws.

Now imagine if the British didn't stop it, how many more of our people would have been sold for peanuts?

Many African slaves final destinations was the America's not Europe and even if slavery was no longer
profitable for the britons, it was very profitable for the Americans.

Will you spend your scarce resources to discourage other people, even your competitors, from entering
an unprofitable business ?

Does that make any sense ?

British stance against slavery isn't based on just profit, if it was, they would care less what
other countries do.

The problem is we find it so challenging and difficult to solve our own problems and "Intelligence is the ability to solve problems"

http://www.unesco.org/new/en/social-and-human-sciences/themes/slave-route/transatlantic-slave-trade/

No, you only solve a problem you are trying to solve, do not
mistake complaints for concern. A problem will never get solved until
someone make an effort to solve it!

This thread has been disappointing because none of the white supremacist
are able to offer any concrete evidence to back their claims. All the claims
made here are what I will expect in a beer-parlour argument.

All I see is a failed attempt to present symptoms as the cause of a disease.

onyenze123:
Have you ever asked yourself why the Atlantic slave trade which took place across the Atlantic Ocean from the 15th through the 19th centuries (400years) lasted that long?

Yes, I have and I know why.
The warring African states found an "ingenious" way to outsource
their problems(i.e the enemy forces), they thought that selling off
the captured enemies was the best way to domination and prevention
of future conflict. Also, some traders found a lucrative opportunity to make
money.
And the whites were happy because a slave that stands out(due to skin colour) is the easiest
to keep with little risk of escaping.

Can you tell me any other race that was subjugated, humiliated and maltreated on an unprecedented level like people of Sub Saharan Africa?

It isn't an African thing, it is called slavery and all slaves feel humiliated and maltreated.
Slavery didn't start in the 16th century, it is as old as human civilization itself.
Every culture and people have been subjected to slavery at one time or the other.

Who stopped the slave trading and what influenced it?

The British stopped slave trading.

Anyone who wants to know the real problem should answer the above questions honestly.

I assume you already know the answer, why not share it with us ?

Local Yahoo boy, I hop you rot in jail.

Nigerians, one of the most gullible people in the world.
They will believe anything so long as a Prophet,Priest,Pastor or Alfa
is added to your name.

That is how one convinced OBJ's wife to work against her son's wedding
because the world will end if the wedding took place. The poor woman
started acting weird. Well, the wedding has taken place and nothing happened.

The problem I have with these type of men is that they won't settle for village, unexposed girl
who will worship them like a god. But will go for enlightened ones and try to force their wish
on women when they fail, they accuse the wife of lacking respect.

HungerBAD:
Interesting.

I say we kick them out of Nigeria and Nationalize the Network.

Tired of them ripping Nigeria off.

You will be creating an avenue for National cake sharing,
the network won't survive if that happens.

dalaman:
I completely disagree that intelligence and creativity don't go together. They do.

That means you are not familiar with psychological research.

Intelligence is defined as “the ability to acquire and utilize knowledge.”
while Creativity is the ability to come up with new ideas through a
mental process of connecting existing concepts.

This is not about what you feel, I based my statement on researches.
Unless an individual is mentally retarded, their creativity does not
depend on intelligence.
In fact it is suggested that very high IQ may impair creative breakthrough
due to over thinking.

I implore you to read more on intelligence and creativity to get a balanced
view of it.

Nobody is saying the whites had it easy. In fact they were just like us at a time doing everything that we are doing. Practising feudalism, unable to lead themselves properly, denying the weakest of them rights and privileges, afraid of change and unable to create a functioning system.

where was their superior intelligence during this period ?

Over time they were able to use their intelligence to know that the way they were living wasn't beneficial to them as a people and tey decided fashion out a functional system out of the old one they had.

If time is a factor of application of intelligence, then it can be argued that
time is what everyone needs to pull off a breakthrough, because if a supposedly
intelligent people, remember intelligent is said to be hereditary, couldn't
figure out how to better their own lives, then how can anyone suggest
that they were intelligent in the first place ?

We have refused to do that. We have refused to change, we have refused to drop the aspects of our culture and traditions that are holding us from making progress as a people. We have refused to use our brains and come together to solve our problems.

At no time in human history has people come together as a whole to decide their own
future. What usually happens is that a tiny percentage of the population are able to
rise above the fold and spread their ideas throughout the society.

Do intelligent people practice the stupid tribalism and feudalism we practice? Do intelligent people keep holding unto a system that is holding them back without dropping them? If we are equally as intelligent then we should be able to create functional societies like them period.

While I disagree with the term "intelligent people", tribalism exist everywhere in the world.
In fact, America evangelicals(a significant percentage of America's population),
those you regard as of superior intelligence, have their way, they will institute theocracy
as preached in the bible and they will happily expunge any scientific idea that doesn't conform with
biblical narratives from their school system.

As I said before, there is no current successful government that was brought about through people
agreeing to change their ways, it was brought about largely through force and
effort of the enlightened portion of the populace.

We have failed in leading ourselves, failed in creating systems that will solve our problems, failed in doing away with our old ways that has stopped us from progressing.

What action have you ever taken to correct the system ?

It takes a certain level of intelligence to acknowledge that you have problems and then look for ways to solve them. We have refused to demonstrate that we have that ability to solve our problems.

You see, anyone can complain and apportion blame as most are doing on this thread,
if emotionally stating a problem is one of the mark of intelligence as a whole, then I
will say we are all at the same level of intelligence.
You can go to the street and ask people from all walks of life what Nigerian problems are for example,
I assure you that everyone have the cliched answers; Bad government, Bad Education systems
and voila you have a high intelligence people who acknowledge their problems!

The only people I take serious are those who have gone past the complain stage in their
thinking and are now in the effort and solution phase.

It is unfortunate that none of those trying to prove white superiority in this
thread could correctly state what the real problem is let alone offer a way
forward.
How can a mind that have been conditioned to feel inferior and
helpless ever liberate itself ?

I could summarise all the arguments in this thread as: This is my fate and it is not my fault
that I have this fate because I lack intelligence, if only I was more intelligent, I would have solved my
problems.

I will rest my case here until I see any positive post from the white supremacist
crew as going back and forth on this issue is pointless, unless their is a goal to
it which I haven't seen yet.

I see many posters oversimplifying a very complex phenomenon, unless
you want us to believe that the whites miraculously became intelligent in the
17th century, the argument of a superior intelligence is not sound.

As any informed person knows, knowledge is not
created out of vacuum but adapted from previous
knowledge.

Before the renaissance and the industrial revolution, the Europeans were
largely in the dark ages of superstition and they are not different from
every other civilization surrounding them.

The game changer for the Europeans was the translation
of middle eastern and asian scholarly work into Latin, it is at this
point that some thinkers recognised the potential of scientific enquiry,
and put great effort into further research and disseminating knowledge
to the society.

So, two things awakened the Europeans, publicly accessible
knowledge, war and stability.

The romans invaded Britain around the first century, destroyed
much of the country, kill their leaders and installed puppets.
Guess what, the Brits didn't wallow in self pity, they didn't
conclude they were less intelligent due to the romans advanced
technology. Instead, they focus their attention on how to move
forward and 400 years later they rose from the ashes.

This is the attitude people that want to move forward need to
have. Expending energy on racial superiority debate will only lead to
self-fulfilling prophecy.

What baffles me most among blacks that are intellectually
above average in knowledge and exposure is that they often
focus on the wrong questions and draw faulty conclusions.

How does the topic of this thread help anyone ?
Will wallowing in self-condemnation and pity move us forward ?

The right question to ask is "how do we move forward as a people ?"
What sacrifice are we to make ?

Backward-deriving of superior intelligence from modern invention
is a naive approach to this discourse.
Invention of the internet does not prove that USA has superior
intelligence any more than the invention of gun powder by the
chinese, it only shows that America was able to harness its
energy into the invention, any other inference is purely imaginative thinking.

The misconception that the whites found life easy due to their
superior intelligence must be dispelled. If you don’t pay the
price, you can’t reap the reward.

Finally, I see many people conflating creativity and intelligence, they
are different and neither do they depend on each other. Recent
research has shown that threshold intelligence is not required for
creativity.

CC Trudax, dalaman

I hope you have learnt your lesson Mr. Lanre Anthony Joshua ?
If you must fight, face your equal!

I suggested a natural cause on the other thread,
but the conspiracy theorists wouldn't have any of
it as they prefer beer parlour gist to medical
explanation.

Trudax:
To show you how sentimental people like LOJ and Ifenes are, just imagine this topic was about exploring questions like physical strength or physical endurance, as it applies to race and the variation among different races. You definitely won't find responses like: Race is an illusion. It's just a social construct. Or statements like: Every race displays the same amount of physical strength and physical endurance. This gives credence to the fact that these guys are reasoning emotionally and not logically and objectively.

Please define physical strength and endurance because those terms are too
broad to use in this context. If your claim were to be true "blacks" will dominate
all sports involving strength in the olympics game but that is not the case.
The touted sprinting ability of blacks is often misused as evidence of superiority,
what the claimants fail to realise is that only a very tiny proportion of people of
west african descent have such ability. Thus, while the myth of blacks athletic
superiority exist, there is no scientific evidence for such. I would expect a "non-sentimental"
person like you to be aware of this.

Blacks have been scientifically proven to be more vulnerable to sickle cell than Caucasians

So do middle-eastern, indians and mediterraneans and this is because sickle cell provides
resistance against malaria. So sickle-cell is malaria-linked not skin color.
The keyword here is "high prevalence" not vulnerability, you either inherit sickle cell
or you don't.

just as Caucasians have been scientifically proven to be more vulnerable to mental illnesses like
Schizophrenia than blacks are.

I will be interested in knowing your definition of "blacks".
Guess what ? More "african-americans" are actually diagnosed for schizophrenia
than "White Americans". But recent research has shown that schizophrenia occurs
in similar rates in both groups. http://www.mdedge.com/currentpsychiatry/article/59739/schizophrenia-other-psychotic-disorders/how-avoid-ethnic-bias-when

Even if your claim were to be true(which is not), it still proves nothing as regards race and intelligence.

Blacks also show less tolerance for lactose than whites. All these expressions have strong genetic
and evolutionary underpinnings.

Yes so do asians, but I fail to see any connection
between climate and diet induced lactose tolerance and intelligence.

Why then is intelligence treated differently when it's clearly a genetic manifestation?
And how does exploring this terrain make one a self-hater or racist or neo-nazi?

From all your argument in this thread, you are not exploring the terrain, you already concluded
based on misconceptions, straw-man argument and cherry-picking facts.

I will say that I expected more from this thread, given that your opening post seems to
suggest an intellectual debate. The burden of proof is on you, the claimant and you haven't
done any justice in that regard.

nurshah:
You obviously can never expect me to engage in arguments with you ..your post has revealed your level of understanding,inability to think outside the box,maturity ,intelligence and lack of existence of respect or fear for a superior authority

You insulted my prophet and you insulted my religion

I wish you what you deserve

I see that you are very good in playing victim when you threw the first stone.