₦airaland Forum

PaChukwudi44:
lol handpicked ko legpicked ni Tinubu got personally involved in 2015 and got his fingers burnt.He learnt his lessons hoever in 2019 and stayed away in 2019.

SW PDP votes includes my very self who voted in Surulere.Majority of the votes the PDP got in the SW were from SS/SE people living in the SW.Tinubu is a local champion and has no powers outside the SW.

Of course, the SE/SS people living in Oyo gave Atiku victory there, in fact, they're in majority in Ondo the reason Atiku had an easy victory there. They even populate Osun that Buhari could not win Atiku with more than 10k votes. Your delusion is legendary.

You can believe your own lies as usual but it doesn't change the following facts:

SW gave PDP more votes than SE in 2019 with Atiku winning Ondo and Oyo. Buhari only won a Muslim dominated Osun state with just 10k votes. But Igbos don't reside in numbers in other SW states apart from Lagos now? That narrative has changed to massage your deflated ego?

Tinubu is what no one from your clan can ever be in terms of sagacity and national influence

Tinubu installed the second and fourth citizens over you and your kinsmen.

BAT is the undisputable slayer of PDP and the only reason SE is scared, spineless and too cowardly to aspire for presidency in 2023.

PaChukwudi44:
God Forbid SE to develop a local champion like Tinubu who will be handpicking political leaders for the region.People of the SE are not zombies and n Local champion can chose for them whom they should vote forIt is not something to be proud of.

He handpicked for the country as well. He handpicked Gbajabiamila to legislate over you.

Bow to Tinubu's political wizardry already, he operates at a frequency far higher than that of your people combined.

Your region is the most irrelevant in our politicosphere. SW gave PDP more votes than SE in 2019.

PaChukwudi44:
way back in 1979 Anambra state produced the VP and speaker.Unlike afonjas Igbos are not zombies who wil be dictated who to vote for by a drug dealer.If that is what you call sagacity then am sorry for you

You have problem with comprehension. How can a local champion install the second and fourth citizen of a country? Where are the national champions? Ooh, they were swept away by the tsunami orchestrated by the "local champion".

I repeat, no one in your group can match Tinubu's NATIONAL influence. He's way above you guy's league.

PaChukwudi44:
Fixed.Tinubu is a local champion.National leader of a party that could not impose his candidates in ekiti,Ondo and Kogi states.National leader indeed

Local champion who installed VP and Speaker House of Rep. No one in the history of your group can match Tinubu's political sagacity and national influence.

If you think otherwise, mention just two

Dickson44:
Mourinho is a religion. I can't believe I'm now a Tottenham fan

Mourinho is my own club.

omenka:
Jonathan's was a very unique case. The northerners felt a sense of betrayal when he insisted on running even though they claimed he had signed an agreement he'd run for only a single term which was the reason why they threw their weight behind him in 2011.

APC took advantage of that disenchantment and struck gold along with their strength in the SW. Not to mention the country was fed up with pdp and needed to test other wines.

Now, APC might not have performed as we anticipated they would, I'd admit that. But I dont think the situation with them at the moment is anywhere near as bad as it was with pdp in 2015. Reason why I believe it would be near impossible for pdp to get back to Aso rock in 2023.

The only thing I believe could significantly improve their chances is if the power play in Aso Rock gets so bad it claims Osinbajo. That way, Nigerians would be so pissed they might wanna punish the party leaders, and by extension, the party, for it. Aso Rock understands this hence wouldn't wanna go down that route.

Insightful analysis! Every democratic dispensation has its ship being navigated chiefly by the direction the circumstance at play wants it to go. It was so for Obj, Yaradua came on board on that note. Both Jonathan and Buhari enjoyed this same driver. 2023 won't be any different.

Buhari is barely 5months into his second tenure, momentum for 2023 is yet to start building so one cannot accurately predict what the mood of the country would be.

In performance, Dickson is miles ahead of Yahaya but the choice of his successor is his Achilles hills. Something in that line will happen prior the next general election, if pdp are interested in stepping into Aso rock again, they should study the tide and sail against it.

omenka:
My brother, the question no one seems to be asking as per pdp chances in 2023 is: where is the party gonna get the finances she needs to execute their plans.

Wike certainly wouldnt wanna bet that much on it. His current body language gives very clear signs. Except the situation changes such that he personally gets kn the ballot.

Atiku will certainly be a no show. Dude is reeling from the loses incurred in 2019.

Saraki has gone ghost mode.

Jonathan didn't play ball in Bayelsa in the current process, I predict he'd do even much less in 2023.

The situation isn't looking good at all.

Money is needed to prosecute an election but doesn't guarantee victory. Jonathan outspent Buhari in 2015 and that didn't stop his humiliating defeat.

What PDP needs is to objectively xray the mood of the people, bring out a candidate irrespective of the region who appeals to the vast majority in the context of country's mood.

Without rigging and voters intimidation, Yahaya Bello cannot win.

If Buhari and Bello through Inec, army and police suppress the wishe of Kogi people, history will not be kind to them.

We can't be reinforcing failure because of political expediency

Biafrareform:
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Lol. Pathetic.

They are simply telling you that they don't vote with sentiments over here unlike what you guys do over there . Celebrating a failure like Buhari .

That they rejected Dickson doesnt mean they will welcome Tinubu.

Who the hell is Tinubu.

Lmao

You're simply reechoing my position. Ssners are not sentimental. They clinically appraise issues and make rational decisions.

Same can't be said of a group so blinded by hate for a party. Ngige is hated not because of incompetence but party while an incompetent Ikpeazu is idolized despite his woeful performance simply because he belongs to a party so adored by his kinsmen

UdechiHD:
Very funny set of people. So it translates to Tinubu support. I hope you don't insult Bayelsans when they show you their backside come 2023.

Bayelsans are not like you. They're rational beings.

Ikpeazu is the most useless governor in Nigeria but you guys rewarded him with a second time because of party affiliation.

Can you appreciate the difference?

Tinubu2023!!

SSners are not some bunch of emotional voters. Two states in the bag already for apc in the SS.

Tinubu2023 is getting more support

APC is winning in Bayelsa?

Unbelievable!

joeyfire:
The obsession you guys have with always dreaming of faultlines between the SS and SE reeks of fear. Open a discussion online or offline about Igbos in the SS and Yorubas are the ones screaming loudest and more passionately than even the people of the SS.

What is the performance of APC in the SS really? I honestly would like to know. Bear in mind that APC also has presence in the SE even though small like SS.

Omo-Agege is a very poor example because APC had more numbers in the Senate. If you check the voting pattern I am sure you will see that SS Senators voted heavily for Ekweremadu. Omo-Agege that was nominated by a Senator from the north.

APC had a decent performance in 2019 in the SS as against 2015.

Presidential election result

In Edo, APC :267,842, PDP: 275,691

Bayelsa APC: 118,821, PDP: 197,933

Delta APC: 221,292 PDP: 594,068

Cross River APC :117,302 PDP 295,737

Not to mention Akwa Ibom.

Apc has made significant inroads there.

Yeah

bigfish3k:
osinbajo looks and acts more humane

Tinubu is a better manager

donb06:
have u noticed that when Yoruba's call TINUBU.... People from SS/SE become agitated but mention Osinbajo they are relaxed .....me included ooo

Why?

bigfish3k:
tell me where yorubas have won without the igbos

Why are you running riot on this thread?

Go ahead and exercise your franchise in 2023, it is your inalienable right. Whether you support your people or a Northerner, it is your choice and we won't begrudge you.

But no blackmail can stop west from contesting. Whether we are going to win or lose, it is not for 5%ter to decide.

We know those who count. Not you or your people.

bigfish3k:
jonathans regions was instrumental to that yoruba man becoming president.

Yorubas do not need Ibos to become president but Ibos surely need Yoruba to do same.

Sadly, they can't get any support from us till they learn diplomacy and mutual respect.

LabDNA:
If you are political smart as you claim, you lot would have realised that as it stands, SW presidency is tied to SE presidency and yorubas should have been biggest proponents of East presidency, so that it can get to them on time.

In the present political equation, there can be no SW president before Eastern presidency except a northern president dies in power and SW VP takes over. Zoning means that everybody's chances is dependent on whether others have taken their chances.

The East have done their bit and voted non-Easterners severally, despite taunts, insults and marginalization, the SW should wait and support the East, in the interest of the SW. The sooner the East gets it, the sooner the SW gets it too.

Wisdom is profitable to direct.
Those who come to equity must come with clean hands.

Your destiny is tied to ours but our own destiny is in our hands.

We don't need you to become president. The unanimous position is that you guys should whosoever you wish to, we don't care.

Be ready to square it out with Tinubu in 2023.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Please tell the traitors. They will be shocked like Awo who drank poison and MKO who begged for his miserable life but was killed like a goat.
The other Southern region will have their own pound of flesh come 2023. Let them continue to be mad now. Lol

Tinubu2023

Princedapace:
U really think I'm one of those who care so much about regions? Bros, I just left ekiti few days ago, it is as shithole as any other state in Nigeria. That is my concern. Not here fighting for one region when ur leaders have all their kids abroad and hunger is killing u here. Ur type will even sell votes for 2k. Arguing with u is classless.

Your concern should be how to make yourself a first class citizen in your country and not the present second class that you are.

How I vote is not a business of an inconsequential being like you .

Classless? From a second class citizen?

Wetin person no go see for nairaland?

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Those cowards and parasites are not serious. If the Yorubas attack any Niger Delta son in 2023 that will mark the end of this failed British experiment called Nigeria, Niger Delta is not Igbo so they should be careful.
They are taking us for granted because we have allowed our oil money to be used to feed the whole country.
The Yoruba can go to hell, the Niger Delta would rather vote for El Rufia than let that notorious international drug baron and thief to rule this country. Traitors!
After denying Jonathan a 2nd term you want our support.
You folks must be living in fools paradize!
I wish Rivers, Akwa/Cross and Bayelsa could secede from this parasitic union and form their own country.
Very useless country!
This zoo must disintegrate so that every man will go to his tent. What the Bleep!
If not for that mad man that merged different countries together what would an Akwa Ibom man have in common with a yoruba man.
God punish Lugard and may he never find rest wherever he is now.

Lol.

Cry cry baby

Typing this invective epistle because of a lie manufactured by a loser, an Ipobian?

They invaded your land during the war, killed your brothers and raped your sisters. Today, they have taken all the businesses in your state with you running errand for them.

You dare not call them out on those evil deeds but you're here typing trash for an unsubstantiated rumour.

See brother..

Brother wey mu...

Princedapace:
I would like to meet u in real life cowards.

If you're looking for a coward, check yourself in the mirror.

You're scared of going head to head with the west. Shioor.

Like I said earlier, do your worst. Vote against us but you can't stop us.

I know you're pained

RTSC:
In 2023 we will tell both parties that the south west does not represent the south.

And such will not count towards votes or any zoning formula.

Stop disturbing yourself.

Yaradua was from the NW
Buhari from NW
El-rufai from NW is nursing an ambition too.

What made you think such people would listen to you?

RTSC:
Ojuwkwu aspired for it.
Okorocha is aspiring for it. Moghalu aspired for it.

Even umahi the infrastructure master has an eye on the presidency.

He may soon declare soon for PDP or even the APC.

What will not happen though is the south west telling us what to do and when to do it.

Good news.

Let us meet at the poll then.

Be ready to suffer an humiliating electoral defeat.

I voted Moghalu by the way.

RTSC:
Look at this clown.
Of course, you can't contest against a minority favoured son of the south.

Who go dash una vote.?
It took a buhari to stand a chance while the south west hid under his babaringa.

And you would run against the south East one day. Maybe in 2023, maybe not. But one day.

In the meantime, get ready for 2015 remix.

Clowns that think only themselves wise.

It is a shame on you and your generation that you can't aspire for the highest office in your own country.

At the emboldened, why not advocate for such in 2023?

I know you can't because you see your group as the least qualified. Too cowardly to go head to head with the west.

bigfish3k:
1992 ... hmnm .. u too know in ur mind knows that things have changed
why didnt u people bring a south west person to contest against jona instead of hiding under the influence of PMB to want to come thru the back door .
shameless betrayals

Jonathan?

That weak and clueless ineffectual buffoon.

A Yoruba man was instrumental in his political voyage. He literally ensured his ascension to power. He was nothing to actually contested against. He lost as a sitting president . What's special?

RTSC:
You can't tell us what to do and when to do it.
We are not some minority group. We created Nigeria.

You should have dared yourselves to run against Jonathan.

Clownish cowards.

No point contesting against a minority group.

We are interested in contesting against a major group.

You have the network and the resources?

We dare you to present your best.

Your people don't have the balls and the sagacity to face a westerner, prove us wrong

Spineless and directionless bunch

madridsta007:
LOL.
I have never said I "know this much". You need to calm down and stop the over-reaction.
The SW will contest in 2023. This is fairly certain. And I wish them the best. I actually want them to contest.
I use the word, "fairly" because I am not a prophet or God, so can't be specific about a future occurence.
The North will contest in 2023. Again, this is fairly certain. They do not understand democratic processes and have always believed being President is their right.
The North will manipulate the divisions in the South and militarise the elections (we saw a test-run of that in 2019) and will likely "win" the elections. The South will be too divided to put up a fight. See how Sowore has been abandoned? You have the Edo State APC chairman, a former "mid-west" state, supporting the North. You see, we currently have minature versions of what will happen in 3/4 years time.
Again, I wish everyone the best.

Same here.

We love to win but not scared of losing

Thank you for your time.

RTSC:
We will wait our turn when it is politically expedient.
The support Peter obi had is very. Impressive.
Humiliated the vice president in the south.

If the south west was so good, they should have ran against Jonathan instead of hiding under buhari because no Yoruba politician alive can defeat Jonathan.

We want to play the same movie again.

We didn't contest against Jonathan...yes

But we are willing to contest against a SEner now.

Bring out your best and let's meet at the polls

We dare you and your group

Princedapace:
An animal who can never make a point without insulting someone. I am just imagining how u maybe in real life. U cant make a point without insulting someone. A big miscreant calling another person a miscreant. U are nothing but a street drop out that is why u could easily insult someone and call me names for a simple point i made. Cant u make ur point without insults and name calling?

Crazy the type of people i share country with, no wonder the country is backward.

South west ruled for 8 years. if ur region cared so much about united south, ur region shouldnt have thought about presidency until after another southerner rule as well. But no, u wanted leadership, now u guys want united south. North will continue to rule as long as south west remains in Nigeria becus the region is naturally greedy.

Haba, after OBJ ruled for 8 years, the least u guys would have done was support the southern candidate to complete his tenure and not partner with north to become VP with the hope of presidency in 2023. That is pure greediness and that is what this man stated here when he said southerners think they are wise.

Shame on the entire south.

Acutely skewed logic. There's nothing like southern unity. I don't believe in it. I vote in line with my convictions.

Support a Northern candidate all you want, nobody is stopping you. It's your right but while exercising your right, stop impinging on others'.

A SWner will contest and there's nothing you can do about it. It is beyond you and your group.

Do your worst and vote against the person.

Very spineless and directionless bunch.