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Was the gang rapper a Christian? I cant understand the celebration as if a practicing Christian declared for Islam.

Pikizzle:
If u will sell for 500k. This guy is a gr8t joker. D naija used my sister is usin was bought 700k and it was faultless, this one has being repainted! Probably had accident with it already

You guys are just been ridiculous. A clean Naija used 98 camry goes at the rate of 800k - 900k. If the guy quotes 1.35Mil as asking price, you are free to negotiate to whatever you want, no need calling for the guy's head, please.

big father:
My wife just finished from driving skool and i want to get her a toyota brand which is not more than the price stated above.
A car with A/C and auto transmission.
Need this like hell cus i don't want her toying around with my car when am not at home.

Na wa-o, why you dey lie na?

You need the car like hell . . .

You dont want your wife to be toying around with your car when you are not around . . .

Dont you travel with your car?
Even if you dont drive it around, is it not better for madam to be warming the engine in your absence?

No body will crucify you for wanting to buy a car for your use within that range, please. No need lying!!

please, post pix and price tag.

manmustwac:
After seeing his votes on the most meaningless poster of the year {awards} he suddenly realized what a big fool he is making of himself on nairaland and decided to resign.

It was a rude realization of his stupidity all along.

How do I assess this car from Abuja? I will be willing to pay 870K.

@alimat; Cool down my sister, how come you dont want to tell me about the mystery door you are always close to? I have come to realise that you are a very good woman . . . and please dont get me wrong, am married.

MyJoe:
Subject's posts are in bad taste and I am surprised it took him this long to attract a ban. I think he was warned by, was it Jagunlabi, when he started on this course. But I agree with mazaje that Nezan, like some other religious folk around here, is least qualified to bring this charge.

What makes you think am least qualified to bring this charge? ehn? for the last time, all my posts are based on facts, not on some stupid childish fantasy, masquerading under the cloak of atheism.

mazaje:
Stop talking about evidence because you do not even know what evidence means. . . . .Your evidence to show that the bible is right about anything and the koran is wrong is WHAT?. . . . . .You call another people's god names but complain when the same is done to your god no?. . . . . . .

If I call any other people’s god names, it is based on historical evidence. Even muslims know mohammed killed people during his jihads, as well as the fact that allah was a god of the kuraish people in Arabia even before the time of mohammed, these can be proven by history, not some charlatan who thinks mohammed and Jesus had a gay relationship. I bet he didn’t know that Jesus predated mohammed by over 600 years.

mazaje:
You and your fellow Christians friends have depictaed mohammed in akward positions here so many times, so what exactly are you talking about?. . . . .

You mean Christians depicted mohammed having gay affairs with Jesus? Liar! Show me.

mazaje:
You guys go about calling allah and mohammed devils here no? Where is your evidence to show that some mythical devil "inspired" mohammed to start a religion?. . . .You believe in the myths, thoughts, fantasies and wishful thoughts of ancients jews whom you do not even know, myths that are completely without evidence, internally contradictory which by the way are not even self evident at all, yet you still call others deluded eh?. . .Interesting. . . . . . .

You are just funny. Bring out evidence to show that Jesus never existed, that Jesus was a myth. If Jesus is real, then our evidences are deduced from his teachings, simple!

rich_john:
Na wa for these non-sense moderators O! One cannot express his opinion anymore abi? The forum is getting boring day by day.

Every society operates within a given set of rules. You can not expect this forum to have its own rules?

rich_john:
@Nezan
Am not athiest and never will I be but I think christians are the awkward people not athiests how can you believe a book like the 'bible' when you can clearly see discrepancies all over it? Well everyone is entitled to his opinion. xtianity makes me sick

Why are you afraid of declaring your atheistic believes? come out straight, man.

mazaje:
Why is it that when a taste of your own medicine is giving to your guys you go around crying and sulking?. . . Is this not the same Nezan that is all over the Islamic forum calling their god names and posting things that are highly offensive to the sensibilities of the Muslims? . . . . .These cry babies and their endless paranoia and persecution complex. . . .

You will observe that all the posts I made were based on reason with factual evidence, not a childish theoritical playbook depicting mohammed and Jesus in akward position. Do you know the age difference between Jesus and mohammed? Where is the evidence that Jesus was gay? I thought atheists were deluded people, and your post together with g1's posts have proven my believes beyond reasonable doubt.

manmustwac:
Na woa so this topic actually achieved its purpose and got g1 banned

He ought to have been banned since. This is the height of irresponsibility: depicting pictures of mohammed and Jesus having anal intimacy.

^^^ We have them everywhere and have learnt to live with them, but this perv is really taking things too far.

Why the obsession with perverted stories?

I have read two threads created by a deluded wannabe atheist who goes by the id- g1, and found them highly offensive to the sensibilities of both Christians and Muslims and wish for him to be banned on this section.

The offending threads are:

Was Jesus Gay? And was Mohammed A s-e-x maniac?

A love story between Jesus and Moh'd: Part 1

What do you think?

You can never serve God and mormon!

upload pictures please.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE RELIGIOUS SECTION AS IT IS GETTING BORING. YOU WILL NOTICE THAT DISCUSSIONS FROM PREVIOUS THREADS ARE NORMALLY BROUGHT UP AGAIN, MAKING THE WHOLE THING REPETITIVE AND BORING.

HOW CAN WE HELP SORT THIS OUT?

Thou shalt live within thy means!

manmustwac:
what about agnostic or athiest

Same thing goes.

Abuzola !:
Olodo. Translation means to interprete while version means to upgrade.

Get the difference

This post goes a long way to expose your illiteracy, almajiri.

muhsin:
Nezan, we've not exchanged words for ages. What's amiss?

Nothing spoil, Muhsin. Office just got busier.

alimat 2:
, i no fit shout oooo. No bi guy door ooooo

I no believe you-o . . . okay which door you dey always dey close to? I wan know, abeg.

What is the difference between translation and version? Is it not the various translations that are referred to as versions? Illiterate almajiri.

@alimat; Which guy's door are you always close to? You no want make the guy rest?

The koran also has many versions and is most unreliable.


This is what Muslim and non-Muslim scholars say about the known variations/versions within the Qur’an being used in the world today:


• "owing to the fact that the kufic script in which the Koran was originally written contained no indication of vowels or diacritical points, variant readings are recognized by Muslims as of equal authority." (N.J. Dawood, The Koran, Middlesex, England: Penguin Books, 1983, p 10, introduction to Dawood’s translation of the Koran)

• "Lists of the differences between the two transmissions are long, , (however) The simple fact is that none of the differences, whether vocal (vowel and diacritical points) or graphic (basic letter), between the transmission of Hafs and the transmission of Warsh has any great effect on the meaning. Many are differences which do not change the meaning at all, and the rest are differences with an effect on meaning in the immediate context of the text itself, but without any significant wider influence on Muslim thought. One difference (Q. 2/184) has an effect on the meaning that might conceivably be argued to have wider ramifications." (Adrian Brockett, `The Value of the Hafs and Warsh transmissions for the Textual History of the Qur'an', Approaches to the History of the Interpretation of the Qur'an, ed. Andrew Rippin; Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1988, p 34,37)


• "the Reading of Abu `Amr in the version of al-Duri , prevails in the Sudan, Nigeria, and Central Africa." (Labib as-Said, The Recited Koran: A History of the First Recorded Version, tr. B. Weis, et al, Princeton, New Jersey: The Darwin Press, 1975, p. 84)


(C)ertain variant readings existed and, indeed, persisted and increased as the Companions who had memorised the text died, and because the inchoate (basic) Arabic script, lacking vowel signs and even necessary diacriticals to distinguish between certain consonants, was inadequate. , In the 4th Islamic century, it was decided to have recourse (to return) to "readings" (qira'at) handed down from seven authoritative "readers" (qurra'); in order, moreover, to ensure accuracy of transmission, two "transmitters" (rawi, pl. ruwah) were accorded to each. There resulted from this seven basic texts (al-qira'at as-sab', "the seven readings", each having two transmitted versions (riwayatan) with only minor variations in phrasing, but all containing meticulous vowel-points and other necessary diacritical marks. , The authoritative "readers" are:


Nafi (from Medina; d.169/785)
Ibn Kathir (from Mecca; d.119/737)
Abu `Amr al-'Ala' (from Damascus; d.53/770)
Ibn `Amir (from Basra; d.118/736)
Hamzah (from Kufah; d.156/772)
al-Qisa'i (from Kufah; d.189/804)
Abu Bakr `Asim (from Kufah; d.158/778)


The predominant reading today, spread by Egyptian Koran readers, is that of `Asim in the transmission (riwayah) of Hafs (d. 190/805). In Morocco, however, the reading is that of Nafi` in the riwayah of Warsh (d. 197/812) and Maghrebin Korans are written accordingly. (Cyril Glassé, The Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, San Francisco: Harper & Row, 1989, p 324)


20 versions of the Qur’an!

Here is a list of the ten readers, each of which have two versions

The Readers and their Transmitted Versions

The Reader The Transmitter

"The Seven" readers

Nafi` Warsh
Qalun

Ibn Kathir al-Bazzi
Qunbul

Abu `Amr al-'Ala' Al-Duri
al-Suri

Ibn `Amir Hisham
Ibn Dhakwan

Hamzah Khalaf
Khallad

al-Qisa'i al-Duri
Abu'l-Harith

Abu Bakr `Asim Hafs
Ibn `Ayyash

"The Three" readers

Abu Ja`far Ibn Wardan
Ibn Jamaz

Ya`qub al-Hashimi Ruways
Rawh

Khalaf al-Bazzar Ishaq
Idris al-Haddad

There are even more Readers than these but these are considered the most authoritative.




"What is said about Al-Mutaawwilin (those who form wrong opinions of disbelief about their Muslim brothers). Umar bin Al-Khattab said, "I heard Hisham bin Al-Hakim reciting Surat-al-Furqan during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle (SAW). I listened to his recitation and noticed that he recited it in several different ways which Allah's Apostle (SAW) had not taught me. So I was about to jump over him during his prayer but I waited till he finished his prayer whereupon I put, either his upper garment or my upper garment, around his neck and seized him by it and asked him, "Who has taught you this Sura?" He replied, "Allah's Apostle (SAW) has taught it to me." I said (to him), "You have told a lie! By Allah, Allah's Apostle (SAW) has taught me this Sura which I have heard you reciting." So I dragged him, to Allah's Apostle (SAW), I said, "O Allah's Apostle! I have heard this man reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way which you have not taught me, and you did teach me Surat-al-Furqan." On that Allah's Apostle (SAW) said, "O Umar, release him! Recite, O Hisham." So Hisham recited before him in the way as I had heard him reciting. Allah's Apostle (SAW) said, "It has been revealed like this." Then Allah's Apostle (SAW) said, "Recite O Umar." So I recited it. The Prophet (SAW) said, "It has been revealed like this." And then he added, "This Quran has been revealed to be recited in seven different ways, so recite it which ever way easier for you." (See Hadith No. 514 Vol. 6) Vol. 9 - Apostates - Chapter 9 27/30)

To me, it matters . . . if I were still single, I wouldnt fall in love with a muslim until she recants!

Must we deceive? am shocked even Tudor is pointing accusing fingers. Come out and confess, Tudor boy.

Abu Zola:
@nezan- you are an old fool, when we say something is corrupt it doesn't mean it lack an oita of truth. The bible contain a few truth e.g don't steal, kill, cheat etc but majority of the bible words are lies which were fabricated

Listen to yourself, 'young wise fool', since you have access to the uncorrupted bible, why not let us see it? deluded slaves!

The same silly old arguments!

muslim: The Bible is corrupt
Christian: Why do you say that?
muslim: Because koran says so. . .

. . the next day . . .

muslim: Bible confirms the messengership of mohammed
Christian: But you said the Bible is corrupt
muslim: <keeps quiet>

NL religious section is becoming such a bore!

alimat 2:
^^^^^^ Dis is pure contrary

u said jesus is God and d same time God gave him power, he can do d same as God,

Then who is Greater ?

The same old stupid arguments

Muslim: Show me in the Bible where Jesus say He is God
Christian: <quotes many biblical verses>
Muslim: No, it is copy and paste, you have copied from a website . . .


. . . and the stupid arguments continue . . . . . . mschewwwwwwwwww!