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mazaje:
The la-la is busy thanking some imaginary deity that he is deluded. . . . .

Abu Zola:
Mazaje uwaka

Na wa-o . . . . must it result into saying obscenities?

muhsin:
LOL

This Farouk's case really scares you, brother.

I thought I was the only person that noticed.

There is a great deal of misunderstanding in Islam. While the moderates will tell you that islam is a religion of peace, the messages contained in the koran are good breeding manual for wannabe terrorists.

@ OP;

I guess you dont read the koran that is why you have not been able to note that it contains numerous contradictions.

Click here to learn more on the numerous contradictions in the koran.

This was the freest poll held here . . . and abuzola won everybody hands down!

e-mail:
NEZAN: You have done a wonderful job engaging these people who have spoiled NL with baseless arguement because of muhamed. I wonder if they want to preach, is it by these that they would get one converted? So us signs that islam is real than this spoiling NL with rubbish.

Thank you my brother.

hamsfat:
For anybody that cares to know,i enjoin u to take a look at the Holy Qurian specifically from the angle of Sciences.U will have no option but to embrace the message of Muhammed (S.A.W) if not u shall always be cautious when discusing this great manage of human and resources.Neil Armsrong,Sheridda,both not muslims,confirmed this.Ma salaal

As in the science of the earth's flatness? How do you reconcile science's reference to a spherical earth to koranic flat earth? Or the sun that sets in murky waters?

. . . . and to even know that there are many wannabe Abdul-Muttalabs on this forum.

For better, for worse . . . . true talk!

He is supposed to address Nigerians probably via a telecast, not to untrustworthy politicians who dont even know what is happening.

@ Post;

Muhammad?
Those who are saying prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an must be professional liars and therefore must be defeated based on the following rational proofs:
He was unlettered (Q29:48), so how can he be able to author a book.

This is an untenable reason. Who wrote the ones on the leaves that were eaten by the goats? Was he not dictating it to somebody? Go and meet an unlearned old man in your village and see how many textbooks he can dictate to you from his pool of knowledge, talkless of a plagiarist.

He is trustworthy (Q10:15-16), so how can he come and make lie to Allah (swt) when even his own enemies confirm his trustworthiness and honesty.

How can a trustworthy person be engaged in wars and plundering of other people’s assets, including wives? Even his step-son was never spared.

Jesus Mother was ranked above all women in the Qur’an (Q3:42), including the Prophet Muhammad’s mother and daughters. How can one write a complete book while downgrading his own family in it? This is illogical. He can only do that when it is a direct order from his, master or a divine revelation from his God. The fact that Jesus mother was ranked over prophet’s Muhammad mother indicates that he was not the author of the Qur’an, and by extension it confirms the revelation from God. Had it been Muhammad (pbuh) was the author he would have ranked his mother over all women. Be logical in your thoughts.

He just wanted to get sympathy and credibility from Christians. He also used this strategy on the arabs- accepting allah’s three daughters.

The author reproves himself (Q80:1, Q33:37, Q18:23-24, Q20:114). It is a factual reality that in the Qur’an the revealer has frequently proving himself as the author of the book. This means Qur’an knows his revealer and author On the contrary, the bible does not know his author and does not even know that his name is bible; for the very word ‘bible was missing throughout.

This is just mohammed’s words. He was just trying to play a fast one, BTW, how can a book written by one author (yet has contradictions) be compared with a book written by different authors over thousands of years, yet has a consistent message?

The scientific truths contained in the Qur’an make it impossible to say that a man who lived 14ooyrs ago, before the discovery of modern science could be able to grasp it. This clearly proves to us that it was the statement of the creator of the world (the very object in which makes his scientific discovery).
Thus, this claim was found wrong and eliminated.

Scientific truths such as a flat earth? Or mentioning of Samaritans before they existed? Or is it the talking of ants with king Solomon? Wake up from these lies, man.

Jews-Christian scholars?
Muhammad could neither read nor write (Q29:48), so how can he learn from Jews-Christian scholars? Nonsense. He was Arab man and their olden scriptures were in Jewish language. This claim also eliminated.

You mean most of the illiterates flooding your mosques are just going there? Are they not going to learn? Who told you an unlearned man can not do oral plagiarisation of a story he has heard?

Arab Poets?
The Arab themselves were challenged (Q2:23-24, Q10:37). If it was authored by Arab poets other groups of Arabs could also produce like it.
The presence of new style of beginning a speech in the Qur’an which was unknown to the tradition of Arab poets makes the impossibility of Qur’an being written by them.
The Arabs themselves need more explanations to understand the Qur’an.

How can they have produced it when mohammed was waging wars on all those who disagreed with him? He terrorised them into submission.

Man?
How can a man be the author of the very book in which he was degraded. Can a man author a book and at the same time discrediting himself in the book. Qur’an portrays man as thus:
Man was reproached for having Weakness: (Q22:73, Q30:40,  Q:86:5-10.
He was criticized of having the nature of despair, prodigality, exultance and boastfulness (Q10:12, Q11:9-10, Q17:83, Q:10:33&36, Q57:22-23).
He was blamed of Disbelief and Oppression (Q:14:34, Q43:15, Q80:17, Q6:116, Q12:103).
Being Quarrelsome and Opponent (Q:16:4, Q18:54).
Man also was unjust and ungrateful in the Qur’an (Q33:73, Q7:171, Q14:34 e.t.c).

How cans a man that assumed to have authored the Qur’an will criticize, castigate, disown, despise, and blame himself of the mentioned bad things and behaviours? That is highly illogical, irrational and impossible.

So if allah wrote the Koran, how come the verses eaten by the goats were never recovered? How can allah allow his words to be lost? How can he write satanic verses and later abrogate them? So allah can make mistakes? Mohammed just wanted to gain acceptability with men.

SATAN?
According to Qur’an Satan was described throughout in the following points:
He is a Sneaking Whisperer (Q114:4-5).
His followers incurred lost and torment (Q4:119-120, Q17:64).
Qur’an orders us to seek refuge in God against Satan (Q16:98).
Satan is powerless in the Qur’an (Q16:99).
He is being accursed throughout the pages of the Qur’an: *An open Enemy (Q2:168, 208, Q6:142, Q7:22, Q17:53, Q35:6, Q30:60); *A Deceiver (Q35:5); *Man’s Deserter (Q38:74-75); *An Arrogant (Q38:74-75).

How cans Satan, the alleged author of the Qur’an will accurse, disclaim and betray himself in the very book he was assumed to have authored. This too, is highly illogical, irrational and impossible. Had it been by the Satan he would have not been cursing and disclaiming himself in the book.

Because even satan can pretend to be an angel of light, so that if it were possible, he will deceive the very elect of God. I wonder why satan whispered satanic verses to mohammed.

WHY GOD (ALLAH)?
Several textual and rational proofs and evidence have been, and yet being citing for the arrogant and stubborn to believe in the true and perfect religion. For the sake of those stubborn unbelievers we are not going to cite the textual (Quranic verses) proofs but only the rationalistic and scientific ones. The scientific truth contained in the Qur’an since 1400yrs and only came to be discovered today by modern science and the mathematical composition of the Qur’an makes it the true divine revelation from Allah the Most High. And these are the only unique features of the Qur’an that no any other religious book shares with it. To invoke the words of Buccaile: “Scientific statements such as these are only one specific aspect of the Islamic revelation which the Bible does not share”. We have already discussed a lot on the scientific truth in the Qur’an in different posts and counter-posts by different brothers on this forum whereby we have wholly defeated the nonsensical claims by the opponents. I will now confine my argument to mathematical composition of the Qur’an to prove its reality of being the true and perfect revelation of God. DR. Tariq AL-SUWAIDAN made exposed the following powerful discovery on the Qur’anic mathematical miracle:

How can allah mistake the spherical world he purportedly to be flat if he was the one that wrote the Koran? Yes, a real koranic scientific miracle: the sun sets in a murky spring and the earth is flat (but can be laid on spherical eggs, courtesy:olabowale).

Al-bahar (Sea) mentioned in the whole of the holy Qur’an = 32. An Al-bar (Land) =13. The statistic is as follows:

Al-bahar (Sea) = 32
Al_bar (Land) = 13

If we add up the total words of both
"sea" and "land" we get 45.
Now if we do a simple calculation:
32/45 X 100% = 71.11111111% (percentage of water)
13/45 X 100% = 28.88888888% (percentage of land)
Above is what we know today as the percentages of Water (Sea) and Land in the world. The same conclusion is reached by modern science. ALLAHU AKBAR, WHAT A BOOK OF GOD!

Show me the koranic verse that declare the percentage of water to land instead of jubilating on coincidences (which I even doubt the veracity).

Below are some more examples of some Words Mentioned in the Quran:

Al-Dunya (world) =115,
Al-Akhira (hereafter) =115,

Al-Mala'ikah (Angels) = 88
Al-Shayateen (Satan) = 88

Al-Hayat (Life) = 145
Al-Maut (Death) = 145
Al-Rajul (Man) = 24,
Al-Mar'ha (Women) = 24

And what do the above numbers indicate, dude.

Al-Shahr (Month) = 12 (the total number of months in universal calendar)
Al-Yauom (Day) = 365 (the total number of days in a year)

Was it not the Gregorian calendar that gave us these? You want to smuggle the Gregorian calendar into the Koran again? Don’t you know the calendar existed before mohammed?

What’s more! The Heretical Rashad Khalifa also made a powerful discovery of mathematical composition of the Qur’an. He was led astray due to boast of his discovery. The standard mathematical miracle of the Qur’an is that: “OVER IT IS NINETEEN (19)” {Q74:30}. What does it mean?

Item 1: The First Commandment is coded by 19: “La – Elahe – Ella – Allah” (there is no deity except Allah): (Numerical values corresponding each Arabic letter is given below)
30 1 – 1 30 5 – 1 30 1 – 1 30 30 5
= 30113051301130305
= 19 x ……

Item 2: The Basmalah (In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful) is so special and unique. It consists of exactly 19 Arabic letters.

Item 3: There are 114 Basmalahs in the Quran and this also entails 114 chapters in the Qur’an. It is interesting to note that 144 = 19 x 6

Item 4: The first revelation of the Quran (Sura 96:1-5) it exactly consists of 19 Arabic words and 76 letters: 76 = 19 x 4.

Item 5: The last revelation of the Quran (Sura 110) consists of 19 Arabic words. The first verse of the last revelation (110:1) consists of 19 Arabic letters.

Item 6: Finally, the total number of the Arabic letters in the Qur’an is 97,489. And 97489 = 19 x 5131.
This last item (item 6) is my own personal discovery in my attempts to prove wrong, some heretical ideas of Rashad. These are only a minute.

LET THEM SPEAK AND WILL HERE MORE LIKE EVER BEOFRE!!!!

And what is the significance of the number 19? Is it a magical wand? I know muslims believes in marabouts, is it a magic number for marabouts?

Thou art worthy,
Thou art worthy O! Lord,
To receive glory, honour and power,
For thou art created,
All things are for thy pleasure,
They are,
And were created.

Abu Zola:
Abuzola is born again praise da Lord,

When manmustwac said that abuzola was the first and only non-Christian to post obscenities on this thread, I thought he was just joking until I saw this post from our Most Meaningless Poster of the Year, 2009 . . . abuzola!

Praise Jesus!

The Lord was exceedingly merciful to me this past year:

1. I took my wife to the alter this year.

2. I was involved in two serious accidents in 2009 but nothing serious happened to me, He also gave me the support to repair all the three cars involved in the two accidents.

3. My wife had a miscarriage and the doctors said she will not conceive until she was operated upon. Shortly after that, she took in and is presently heavy. The doctors and I were confounded.

. . . etc etc . . and more importantly, the gift of life and salvation through Jesus Christ . . . Haleluyah somebody!

I have gone through it. Its just what the writer of this article was echoing.

According to the writer of this article, the extra-terrestial beings are fallen gods sent to deceive mankind in these endtimes.

The picture of unshaven facial hairs with short trousers really look scary on muslims.

Long time I visited this muslim board.

Any body to comment on this?

I recently came about this article and wish to share it here:

Old Gods and New - Imminent Disclosure?

by Gary Stearman


Disclosure … the revealing of something long held secret. For important reasons, we now need to be sensitive to this word. In the coming days, it is likely to be resounding through the public media.


Of late, this term has been used of several governments around the world … France and England, to name two … which have "disclosed" that they have been concealing years of detailed records concerning their interaction with unidentified flying objects … UFOs. After decades of fanatical secrecy, they are beginning to reveal that both the phenomenon and the beings associated with it are real. What’s more, they are now hinting that they have had various relationships (including technology trades) with alien intelligences.


In August of 2009, the U. K. government released thousands of pages of historical UFO documents, kept during the years 1981-1996. They are now online and have also been made available in the public domain. They reportedly detail many close encounters, purported abductions and especially, in-depth documentation about what has been called "Britain’s Roswell," the Rendlesham Forest Air Base event that took place in Suffolk.


Up to now, the major world media have been reluctant to touch this subject. However, a number of news sources at the edge of society have begun to document the back-channel chatter about our dealings with aliens, reportedly taking place at high levels in our government. One such source is datelined October 21, 2009, published by examiner.com and reporter Michael Salia, PhD. He writes:


"An official announcement by the Obama administration disclosing the reality of extraterrestrial life is imminent. For several months, senior administration officials have been quietly deliberating behind closed doors about how much to disclose to the world about extraterrestrial life. Dissatisfaction among powerful institutions such as the U.S. Navy over the decades-long secrecy policy has given a boost to efforts to disclose the reality of extraterrestrial life and technology.


"The impending disclosure announcement follows upon the secret implementation of a year-long openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life? Over the period February 12-14, 2008, the United Nations held closed doors discussions where approximately 30 nations secretly agree on a new openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life in 2009. The openness policy was implemented but never publicly announced due to threats against UN diplomats to not disclose details of the secret agreement. The secret UN agreement was based on two conditions. First, UFOs would continue to appear around the world; and second, the openness policy would not lead to social unrest in liberal democracies. Both conditions have been satisfied making it possible for the next stage to begin – official disclosure of extraterrestrial life."


Extraterrestrials? No.


What is behind the current UFO phenomenon? Certainly, it involves advanced super-vehicles and visiting aliens. But just as certainly, the visitors are not sci-fi space travelers. Our guide to truth, the Bible, simply does not speak of travelers from the stars, coming here in the latter days to guide mankind into a new age of peace and enlightenment. But it speaks volumes about "sons of God" (Gen. 6:2), who descended from heaven to take human wives, resulting in the corruption of mankind. These were fallen angels who came to be worshiped by men. Later, idols were erected in their names: Baal, Moloch, Dagon and others. The Egyptian solar disc called Ra was surrounded by Isis, Osiris and a retinue of immortals. Fallen angels were the source of Greek and Roman demigods and goddesses … Zeus, Apollo, Aphrodite, Artemis … super-beings with super knowledge.


To put it bluntly, they were man’s earliest contact with "aliens from outer space." Since Christ’s first coming, accompanied by the general dispensation of the Holy Spirit, they have quietly receded into the background. But just as prophesied for the latter days, they have risen to prominence once again. Given their transdimensional origins, they have the ability to appear in the guise most easily accepted by contemporary society. In the current case, they simply meet man’s expectations that there is life on other planets. So they pose as extraterrestrial visitors, bringing advanced technology.
But make no mistake, they are one and the same people as the ancient gods. And their goal is the same, namely, to corrupt man to such an extent that Christ’s redemption is rendered null and void.


Old Gods and New


In the book of Deuteronomy’s Song of Moses, Israel is rebuked for having worshiped these false gods:
"They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.
"They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not" (Deut. 32:16,17).


Moses’ song is an extended prophecy for the latter days, predicting the events that will characterize Israel’s beliefs and behaviors in the period leading up to and including the judgments of the Tribulation.
Here, he recalls Israel’s past involvement with the false gods, their graven images and idols. These, we now identify as fallen angels and their demonic subordinates. They have emerged once again to prepare the way for the world of the Antichrist.



But take note especially of the future reference to the "new gods that came newly up." Here, Moses prophesies that entirely new gods of the same genre as the old gods will make their appearance in the latter days. Are we seeing these today, masquerading as space travelers? But in the above verses, there is something else of great interest. Jewish scholars of the past numbered the verses of the Torah, interpreting them as years in the Jewish calendar. The 16th and 17th verses above are numbers 5,769 and 5,770, representing the years 5769 and 5770. In the Gentile calendar, these would correspond to the years 2009 and 2010, in other words, the present time.


Though we cannot be dogmatic on the issue, it is nevertheless compelling that this prophecy refers to new gods, unknown to the patriarchs of ancient Israel. It appears that contemporary men of science and technology are now worshiping these new gods, as they bring their gifts of advanced knowledge from the stars. Such tokens are welcomed by those who worship science rather than God.

Source.

Habib16:
@poster why is it dat u Kafr Just find it difficult to admit it dat THIER IS NO GOD EXCEPT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER! is it to difficult for u to understand!! Ahaha thick skulls

Point of correction, dude. Mohammed's god is called allah, while the God I worship is called YHWH, they are not the same as allah was worshipped pre-mohammed as an idol of the kuraish tribe in makkah.

Habib16:
@poster U know what? I think without contesting the award can only go to one of this Goat no I mean Palmwine tapper. 1, your father or
2, your grand- father. Remember its optional. Wish u Happy Vote lol.

I dont blame you, you grew up as an almajiri on the streets without family values, so you definately think calling somebody's dad and grandad a goat is some kind of joke. Brainless kid.

If the outgoing CJ is empowered by law to administer the oath on the incoming CJ, why make useless noise? we are a land of ignorant people who like making mountains out of molehills when our real challenges are ignored.

When Muttalab was arrested, I was fearing twas Abuzola, given his long absence here.

Poll officially closed.

The results:

1st: Abuzola- He got 22 votes to ganer 38.6% of the total votes cast to emerge winner.

2nd: Olabowale- Got 7 votes to ganer 12.3% of the total votes cast to emerge 1st runner up.

3rd: Ogaga- Got 6 votes to closely follow Olabowale with 10.5% to emerge 2nd runner up.

Thanks guys, for voting.

Abuzola remains our official most meaaningless poster for the year 2009.

This is wishing all posters on this section a prosperous 2010 as 2009 draws to a close today.

A LETTER TO YOU FROM SATAN

I saw you yesterday as you began your daily chores. You woke up without kneeling to pray….you just jumped out of bed and started about. As a matter of fact, you didn't even bless your meals, neither did you at any time within the day remember the existence of your so called God. Good for you. And you didn’t even pray before going to bed last night. You are so unthankful, and that’s what I so like about you. I cannot tell you how glad I am that you have not changed your ways…, keep it up my dear… you are mine, body, soul and spirit. Remember, you and I are like husband and wife you know…we’ve been going steady for years now, yet I still don't love you, I don’t dig you that’s why am gonna destroy you. As a matter of fact, I hate you, because I hate God. He kicked me out of heaven, and I'm going to kick you about and use you for as long as I want. I call it pay back.
You see, dummy, GOD LOVES YOU and HE has great plans for you….but those plans wont materialize. Know why? Because I wont let you give him the chance to make them work. You yielded your life to me, and I'm going to make your life a living hell even though I may permit you to have some change in your pocket and the occasional meal on your table. That way, we'll be together twice….here on earth….and in that place God, in his infinite wisdom has decided to call hell. That’s our final bus stop, dear…there, we will disembark, and stay put. Forget all the gory tales they tell about that place, gnashing of teeth and all…long before we get there, I’d have pulled off all your teeth so there wont be anything to gnash once we are in there. Trust me that will really hurt God….and boy, will I gloat?

Thanks to you, I'm showing Him who the boss really is…at least in your life, what with all of the good times we've had. We’ve watched dirty movies together, cursed people, stole, lied, committed fornication, back stabbed people, skipped church…SURELY you don't want to give all this up…do you? Its called La Dolce Farniente…the life of sweet indulgence. Come on, Fool, enjoyed together, let's burn together forever too.

This is just a letter of appreciation from me to you. I'd like to say 'THANKS' for letting me use you for most of your foolish, miserable life. You are so gullible, I laugh at you. When you are tempted to sin, you give in. When you see a girl with all her body out in skimpy clothes, you go gaga. When you see a man with so much money, all you start thinking is to seduce him….damn, you make me sick. Sin has since taken its toll on your life anyway. Soon you will be of no use to me. You look 10 years older anyway, and now, I need new blood. So go ahead and teach some children how to sin….you don’t need to put up a sign, they are looking at you anyway. All you have to do is smoke, get drunk, cheat, gamble, gossip, fornicate, and live being as selfish as possible. Do all of this in the presence of children and they will do it too. Kids are like that.

Well, Fool, I have to let you go for now. I'll be back in a couple of seconds to tempt you again. If you were smart-and we both know you are not- you would run somewhere, confess your sins, and live for that God you profess so much, yet rever so little. It's not in my nature to warn anyone, but for you, I will make the exception….you are too dumb to even take heed anyway. To be your age and still sinning; it's outright ridiculous.

Don't get me wrong, I still hate you and because I know you love me and cherish all our binges and trysts together, I know you won’t share this letter. Please don’t. Don’t let anyone see this okay? Am still at my address if you want to see me: 666, LUCIFER AVENUE, OFF SINNERS BOULEVARD, HADES.

Am outta here!

Poll ends tommorrow by 12 noon. Results:

Abuzola - 1st
Olabowale - 2nd
Ogaga - 3rd

Final results to be known tommorrow.

But you guys too do it. It all depends on how you exercise self control.

^^ It shall be sooner than you expect

dominique:
you're right, nobody wants to be poor. but i'm used to seeing people getting up to do something about their status. i cant count the number of times i've heard "as you can see, we're poor" or somethimg similar. most of the indigenes have acres of fertile land to their disposal. what do they do with it? practice subsistence agriculture. they dont have any business savvy either. you can imagine them selling a tuber of yam for as N 10 to swinddling wholesalers from Lagos and other areas. most of the big shops there are operated by the Ibos. if thats not being comfortable with poverty, i dont know what that is.

You are spewing nonsense here, do you know the number of Benue indigenes who have dusted themselves from the shackles of poverty? Let me mention a few: Engr. Gemade's father was a poor man, but the man rose above poverty and is celebrated. What of Terry Wayas? what of Iyorchia Ayua? what of Michael Aondoakaa, what of senator Akume? what of David Mark? . . . and the list continues . . . what of the numerous Benue graduates working in Lagos, Abuja, UK, US and other parts of the world? Do you even know that one of the richest Benue guys works as a Senior Director in the US with an oil company? Shut up and stop spewing nonsense.