I just wonder why muslims are always desparately trying to justify their fake prophet from the Bible . . . . BTW, mohammed cannot justify his prophecy without forcing himself into the Bible he claimed was corrupt?

The second commandment prohibits worshipping/adoration of images/idols.

Nice one, PM.

I cant predict . . . I dont trust Amodu

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a step. Accept the job and MOVE ON

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Post by Abuzola« #22 on: May 16, 2009, 12:03 PM »

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What d verse is saying is women will double the men on earth & 6 or 7 women will be for a man islam also prophesized it

Which sura in the koran prophesized this? Copy-cats!

Na today? the guy has been a disappointment.

Amodu must go now!!!

@ OP; What difference does it make to your meaningless posts?

^^ These old conspiracy theories are still making rounds?

muhsin:

You are not his match, dude. And you know deep down inside you.

Lying at best.

Just a simple question . . . if he was as good as you deceitfully want us to believe, why did he run away from NL?

olabowale:

Arrogant statement, especially when you consider Nezan as a good man. He is rotten like a bad egg.

. . . and you are rotten as an ostrich egg abi? an egg on which the flat carpet of the earth can be spread?

Let me tell you olabowale or whatever you call yourself, islam has done nobody any good, rather than turning innocent children into suicidal terrorists. I believe you will presently be facing tough screening in the US wherever you go now, because islam turned Farouk into a suicidal terrorist and the whole bad image is enveloping us Nigerians who are not muslims . . . to hell with islam and its terrorist manual!

Timaya . . . is the poll locked? my vote for Timaya was not entered.

. . . . in as much as koran is a collection of the thoughts of the paedophile, mohammed.

muhsin:

I supposed you mean misinterpretations. And nothing is immune of that, not even religious scriptures. For a typical example, the issue of tithing in your religion. You know it!

I meant what I said, BTW, how can you compare terrorism to tithing? You should have compared tithing to zakkat, because terrorism in islam has no parallel in Christendom.

muhsin:

@back belle,

Very good post. Allah is certainly great!

Don't believe in a word that non-Muslim, Nezan, says. How can a blind lead a sighted person? Impossible, huh?

A brother named abulbanaat recently invited them to a debate on the alleged contradiction in the Qur'an. but none indulged him. Nezan himself and one other guy tried but flatly failed. Funny.

Here is the thread

And, there are numeruous Islamic sites that contain clear cut rebuttals of that allegations. I can give you some if you like.

Hypocrisy at best. Please go to that thread and see islamic ignorance at its best. That abulbanaat guy actually ran away from NL when his stupidity was unveiled.

nice-guy10:

No, he emerges as the most senseless poster for 2009, you guys are full of Poo.

mazaje:

The la-la is busy thanking some imaginary deity that he is deluded. . . . .

Abu Zola:

Mazaje uwaka

Na wa-o . . . . must it result into saying obscenities?

muhsin:

LOL

This Farouk's case really scares you, brother.

I thought I was the only person that noticed.

There is a great deal of misunderstanding in Islam. While the moderates will tell you that islam is a religion of peace, the messages contained in the koran are good breeding manual for wannabe terrorists.

@ OP;

I guess you dont read the koran that is why you have not been able to note that it contains numerous contradictions.

Click here to learn more on the numerous contradictions in the koran.

This was the freest poll held here . . . and abuzola won everybody hands down!

e-mail:

NEZAN: You have done a wonderful job engaging these people who have spoiled NL with baseless arguement because of muhamed. I wonder if they want to preach, is it by these that they would get one converted? So us signs that islam is real than this spoiling NL with rubbish.

Thank you my brother.

hamsfat:

For anybody that cares to know,i enjoin u to take a look at the Holy Qurian specifically from the angle of Sciences.U will have no option but to embrace the message of Muhammed (S.A.W) if not u shall always be cautious when discusing this great manage of human and resources.Neil Armsrong,Sheridda,both not muslims,confirmed this.Ma salaal

As in the science of the earth's flatness? How do you reconcile science's reference to a spherical earth to koranic flat earth? Or the sun that sets in murky waters?

. . . . and to even know that there are many wannabe Abdul-Muttalabs on this forum.

For better, for worse . . . . true talk!

He is supposed to address Nigerians probably via a telecast, not to untrustworthy politicians who dont even know what is happening.

@ Post;

Muhammad?
Those who are saying prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an must be professional liars and therefore must be defeated based on the following rational proofs:
He was unlettered (Q29:48), so how can he be able to author a book.

This is an untenable reason. Who wrote the ones on the leaves that were eaten by the goats? Was he not dictating it to somebody? Go and meet an unlearned old man in your village and see how many textbooks he can dictate to you from his pool of knowledge, talkless of a plagiarist.

He is trustworthy (Q10:15-16), so how can he come and make lie to Allah (swt) when even his own enemies confirm his trustworthiness and honesty.

How can a trustworthy person be engaged in wars and plundering of other people’s assets, including wives? Even his step-son was never spared.

Jesus Mother was ranked above all women in the Qur’an (Q3:42), including the Prophet Muhammad’s mother and daughters. How can one write a complete book while downgrading his own family in it? This is illogical. He can only do that when it is a direct order from his, master or a divine revelation from his God. The fact that Jesus mother was ranked over prophet’s Muhammad mother indicates that he was not the author of the Qur’an, and by extension it confirms the revelation from God. Had it been Muhammad (pbuh) was the author he would have ranked his mother over all women. Be logical in your thoughts.

He just wanted to get sympathy and credibility from Christians. He also used this strategy on the arabs- accepting allah’s three daughters.

The author reproves himself (Q80:1, Q33:37, Q18:23-24, Q20:114). It is a factual reality that in the Qur’an the revealer has frequently proving himself as the author of the book. This means Qur’an knows his revealer and author On the contrary, the bible does not know his author and does not even know that his name is bible; for the very word ‘bible was missing throughout.

This is just mohammed’s words. He was just trying to play a fast one, BTW, how can a book written by one author (yet has contradictions) be compared with a book written by different authors over thousands of years, yet has a consistent message?

The scientific truths contained in the Qur’an make it impossible to say that a man who lived 14ooyrs ago, before the discovery of modern science could be able to grasp it. This clearly proves to us that it was the statement of the creator of the world (the very object in which makes his scientific discovery).
Thus, this claim was found wrong and eliminated.

Scientific truths such as a flat earth? Or mentioning of Samaritans before they existed? Or is it the talking of ants with king Solomon? Wake up from these lies, man.

Jews-Christian scholars?
Muhammad could neither read nor write (Q29:48), so how can he learn from Jews-Christian scholars? Nonsense. He was Arab man and their olden scriptures were in Jewish language. This claim also eliminated.

You mean most of the illiterates flooding your mosques are just going there? Are they not going to learn? Who told you an unlearned man can not do oral plagiarisation of a story he has heard?

Arab Poets?
The Arab themselves were challenged (Q2:23-24, Q10:37). If it was authored by Arab poets other groups of Arabs could also produce like it.
The presence of new style of beginning a speech in the Qur’an which was unknown to the tradition of Arab poets makes the impossibility of Qur’an being written by them.
The Arabs themselves need more explanations to understand the Qur’an.

How can they have produced it when mohammed was waging wars on all those who disagreed with him? He terrorised them into submission.

Man?
How can a man be the author of the very book in which he was degraded. Can a man author a book and at the same time discrediting himself in the book. Qur’an portrays man as thus:
Man was reproached for having Weakness: (Q22:73, Q30:40,  Q:86:5-10.
He was criticized of having the nature of despair, prodigality, exultance and boastfulness (Q10:12, Q11:9-10, Q17:83, Q:10:33&36, Q57:22-23).
He was blamed of Disbelief and Oppression (Q:14:34, Q43:15, Q80:17, Q6:116, Q12:103).
Being Quarrelsome and Opponent (Q:16:4, Q18:54).
Man also was unjust and ungrateful in the Qur’an (Q33:73, Q7:171, Q14:34 e.t.c).

How cans a man that assumed to have authored the Qur’an will criticize, castigate, disown, despise, and blame himself of the mentioned bad things and behaviours? That is highly illogical, irrational and impossible.

So if allah wrote the Koran, how come the verses eaten by the goats were never recovered? How can allah allow his words to be lost? How can he write satanic verses and later abrogate them? So allah can make mistakes? Mohammed just wanted to gain acceptability with men.

SATAN?
According to Qur’an Satan was described throughout in the following points:
He is a Sneaking Whisperer (Q114:4-5).
His followers incurred lost and torment (Q4:119-120, Q17:64).
Qur’an orders us to seek refuge in God against Satan (Q16:98).
Satan is powerless in the Qur’an (Q16:99).
He is being accursed throughout the pages of the Qur’an: *An open Enemy (Q2:168, 208, Q6:142, Q7:22, Q17:53, Q35:6, Q30:60); *A Deceiver (Q35:5); *Man’s Deserter (Q38:74-75); *An Arrogant (Q38:74-75).

How cans Satan, the alleged author of the Qur’an will accurse, disclaim and betray himself in the very book he was assumed to have authored. This too, is highly illogical, irrational and impossible. Had it been by the Satan he would have not been cursing and disclaiming himself in the book.

Because even satan can pretend to be an angel of light, so that if it were possible, he will deceive the very elect of God. I wonder why satan whispered satanic verses to mohammed.

WHY GOD (ALLAH)?
Several textual and rational proofs and evidence have been, and yet being citing for the arrogant and stubborn to believe in the true and perfect religion. For the sake of those stubborn unbelievers we are not going to cite the textual (Quranic verses) proofs but only the rationalistic and scientific ones. The scientific truth contained in the Qur’an since 1400yrs and only came to be discovered today by modern science and the mathematical composition of the Qur’an makes it the true divine revelation from Allah the Most High. And these are the only unique features of the Qur’an that no any other religious book shares with it. To invoke the words of Buccaile: “Scientific statements such as these are only one specific aspect of the Islamic revelation which the Bible does not share”. We have already discussed a lot on the scientific truth in the Qur’an in different posts and counter-posts by different brothers on this forum whereby we have wholly defeated the nonsensical claims by the opponents. I will now confine my argument to mathematical composition of the Qur’an to prove its reality of being the true and perfect revelation of God. DR. Tariq AL-SUWAIDAN made exposed the following powerful discovery on the Qur’anic mathematical miracle:

How can allah mistake the spherical world he purportedly to be flat if he was the one that wrote the Koran? Yes, a real koranic scientific miracle: the sun sets in a murky spring and the earth is flat (but can be laid on spherical eggs, courtesy:olabowale).

Al-bahar (Sea) mentioned in the whole of the holy Qur’an = 32. An Al-bar (Land) =13. The statistic is as follows:

Al-bahar (Sea) = 32
Al_bar (Land) = 13

If we add up the total words of both
"sea" and "land" we get 45.
Now if we do a simple calculation:
32/45 X 100% = 71.11111111% (percentage of water)
13/45 X 100% = 28.88888888% (percentage of land)
Above is what we know today as the percentages of Water (Sea) and Land in the world. The same conclusion is reached by modern science. ALLAHU AKBAR, WHAT A BOOK OF GOD!

Show me the koranic verse that declare the percentage of water to land instead of jubilating on coincidences (which I even doubt the veracity).

Below are some more examples of some Words Mentioned in the Quran:

Al-Dunya (world) =115,
Al-Akhira (hereafter) =115,

Al-Mala'ikah (Angels) = 88
Al-Shayateen (Satan) = 88

Al-Hayat (Life) = 145
Al-Maut (Death) = 145
Al-Rajul (Man) = 24,
Al-Mar'ha (Women) = 24

And what do the above numbers indicate, dude.

Al-Shahr (Month) = 12 (the total number of months in universal calendar)
Al-Yauom (Day) = 365 (the total number of days in a year)

Was it not the Gregorian calendar that gave us these? You want to smuggle the Gregorian calendar into the Koran again? Don’t you know the calendar existed before mohammed?

What’s more! The Heretical Rashad Khalifa also made a powerful discovery of mathematical composition of the Qur’an. He was led astray due to boast of his discovery. The standard mathematical miracle of the Qur’an is that: “OVER IT IS NINETEEN (19)” {Q74:30}. What does it mean?

Item 1: The First Commandment is coded by 19: “La – Elahe – Ella – Allah” (there is no deity except Allah): (Numerical values corresponding each Arabic letter is given below)
30 1 – 1 30 5 – 1 30 1 – 1 30 30 5
= 30113051301130305
= 19 x ……

Item 2: The Basmalah (In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful) is so special and unique. It consists of exactly 19 Arabic letters.

Item 3: There are 114 Basmalahs in the Quran and this also entails 114 chapters in the Qur’an. It is interesting to note that 144 = 19 x 6

Item 4: The first revelation of the Quran (Sura 96:1-5) it exactly consists of 19 Arabic words and 76 letters: 76 = 19 x 4.

Item 5: The last revelation of the Quran (Sura 110) consists of 19 Arabic words. The first verse of the last revelation (110:1) consists of 19 Arabic letters.

Item 6: Finally, the total number of the Arabic letters in the Qur’an is 97,489. And 97489 = 19 x 5131.
This last item (item 6) is my own personal discovery in my attempts to prove wrong, some heretical ideas of Rashad. These are only a minute.

LET THEM SPEAK AND WILL HERE MORE LIKE EVER BEOFRE!!!!

And what is the significance of the number 19? Is it a magical wand? I know muslims believes in marabouts, is it a magic number for marabouts?

Thou art worthy,
Thou art worthy O! Lord,
To receive glory, honour and power,
For thou art created,
All things are for thy pleasure,
They are,
And were created.

Abu Zola:

Abuzola is born again praise da Lord,

When manmustwac said that abuzola was the first and only non-Christian to post obscenities on this thread, I thought he was just joking until I saw this post from our Most Meaningless Poster of the Year, 2009 . . . abuzola!

Praise Jesus!

The Lord was exceedingly merciful to me this past year:

1. I took my wife to the alter this year.

2. I was involved in two serious accidents in 2009 but nothing serious happened to me, He also gave me the support to repair all the three cars involved in the two accidents.

3. My wife had a miscarriage and the doctors said she will not conceive until she was operated upon. Shortly after that, she took in and is presently heavy. The doctors and I were confounded.

. . . etc etc . . and more importantly, the gift of life and salvation through Jesus Christ . . . Haleluyah somebody!