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And yet people will come here, drumming support for the sacked Bank Chiefs . . . . . where are we heading to . . . . .?

Nobody should blame Yar'Adua, Aondoakaa, Farida, e.t.c. we are all corrupt!

What will the ordinary Nigerian benefit from the visit? . . .   . . . . ?

Love has definately regained sight in 9ja.

Source:

http://www.coptreal.com/ShowSubjectEn.aspx?SID=24651

The Coptic Church of Saint Paul and Saint Peter in the town of Shebin el Kom, 60 kilometers northwest of Cairo, was burnt on 9/8/2009, No casualties were reported. There were conflicting reports as to the cause of the fire, the Egyptian police told the media that it was caused by a "short circuit" even before carrying out an arson investigation, while others believe it was arson.
Church authorities are keeping tight-lipped over the fire and refusing to comment before the results of the investigation are out. According to Free Copts, the priest and witnesses dismissed the possibility of an electric short circuit or a candle as the cause of the fire.

The fire started at about 3:00 PM, when the church was closed, after having had a morning service. It began at the central entrance door and spread inside to damage the church's interior. People who tried to help could not get into the locked church, "it was very frustrating to see the church burning inside and fire tongues coming out of the windows. We just stood there helplessly watching," a witness told Middle East Christian Association (MECA).

When the fire brigade arrived, the inside of the church was completely gutted. "Only the Holy Alter remained miraculously unharmed, but all the Saints' relics, icons and pictures were reduced to charcoal," commented a church worker. "All the beautiful features inside the church are now gone. It is evident by looking at the fire photos that they were targeted deliberately and maliciously in order to destroy them."

Several sources close to the church were interviewed, who asked to remain anonymous, believed that the fire was arson, caused by Muslim neighbors who were against having the church in their vicinity. They said that they have received numerous threats to have the Church firebombed. "We were enraged when they told us that the police report would be issued, as usual, blaming a short circuit for causing the fire, or in the worst scenario the arsonists would get off scot-free through the State Security's unofficial reconciliation meetings, in which Copts are forced to give up their rights for criminal charges," said one church member.

"The police decided before any forensics were carried out that the cause of the fire was caused by a short-circuit," said an unofficial Church source. "This cannot be true, as the electricity was shut off as usual before locking the Church and the panel boards are intact as the photos show."

Sherif Ramzy of Free Copts said that Coptic witnesses told him that while the fire was burning, Muslim neighbors were elated. To portray their happiness, Muslim women were letting out the traditional celebration sound "zaghroota."

Copts United were told "The reasons behind the church fire are the problems between the Church and the Muslim neighbors who are unhappy with the presence of the Church in their vicinity. The congregation was harassed, the priests insulted and threatened, and Koran chanting was played over the loud speakers during the Church services."

Coptic News Bulletin aired an audio with members of the Church who said that two Muslim men were always hovering near the Church since its inauguration a year ago, threatening and intimidating the congregation. "Everytime the Church priest reported them to the State Security, they disappeared for a while before coming back with more threats," said a Church member.

The Saint Paul and Saint Peter Church was originally an old Roman Catholic church, but due to the dwindling number of Catholics in Shebin el Kom, it was purchased by the Coptic church three years ago, and the interior was partly converted to Coptic Orthodox liturgical use. Coptic Church services started under last year. "The Catholic church was closed for a long time, so when the Coptic church started its services, the Muslims in the neighborhood became very angry," said one of the parishioners to Coptic News. "The neighbors were throwing dirty water from their balconies over us as we walked. The Muslims also complained that when weddings were held at Church, the number of invited guests with cars, led to traffic congestion."

On 9/12/2009 the Church congregation held a mass in the open air on the Church grounds.

source:

http://www.coptreal.com/ShowSubjectEn.aspx?SID=24645

Egypt (AINA) -- Amal Estephanos, a 19 year old Catholic Copt, was abducted in broad daylight on Saturday, September 12, 2009, by a Muslim to force her father to accept reconciliation with the families of the Muslim murderers of his son Amir Stephanos.In an interview with Osama Eid of Free Copts, Estephanos said his daughter Amal was kidnapped by the ?unemployed worker Ibrahim Ali Negm, after she was drugged and bundled into a pickup truck, with the assistance of village strangers. She was taken to Aswan City, to be forced to convert to Islam. This abduction was witnessed by several people,

Estephanos said the State Security has pressuring him to accept taking part in a "reconciliation session" with the family of the murderers, which he adamantly refuses. "With this abduction, they want to humiliate me, and force me to cave in to their reconciliation efforts," he told Free Copts.

He appealed to President Mubarak saying "I want my daughter back. It is enough what happened to my son Amir, whose blood is not yet dry."

Reports from Hegaza village indicate that Amal is in Aswan with one of the organizations specializing in forced Islamization of Copts, and that she may have been raped.

Free Copts reported that State Security is detaining the abductor's family until the Amal has been released. This unusual State Security assistance is possibly due to the intervention of Abdel-Rady Araby, member of the Egyptian Shura (Advisory) Council. He told Free Copts on 16th September 2009 that Amal's abduction was a "blow to his efforts of reconciliation" between the families. He said that he had arranged for a 'reconciliation meeting' to be held on Monday 14th September only to learn that the abduction took place just two days before.

Amal, who lives in the village of Hegaza, Qus, Qena Governorate, which lies 600 km south of Cairo, is the youngest sister of Amir Estephanos (22), who was murdered together with his friend Adib Hedra Soliman (22) on April 18, 2009, after attending a worship service on Easter Eve at the nearby St. Boktor's Monastery. They were intercepted by members of a Muslim family who had a blood feud with his friend Adib's family since 2004. Amir Stephanos was not involved in the feud but still he was executed by the firing squad. They received 70 bullets to the head and body. A third Christian who was also with them, Mina Samir was seriously injured, and subsequently lost an arm and a leg as a result of the shootings.

The four accused Muslims, including two brothers involved in the family feud, were referred to the Criminal Court of Qena, which began its hearings on June 29, 2009.

The Estephanos tragedy began again, after renewed pressure from the State Security to effect a reconciliation, following the intervention of Shura member Abdel-Rady Araby.

Coptic families of the murdered were threatened with deportation by Security.

The blood feud between the Muslim Mohamed Saeed family and the Christian Soliman family goes back to the 6th November 2004, when the two families had a brawl in the village market, leaving Mohamed Saeed (58 years) dead after receiving a blow on the head with a stick.

The events which followed that brawl and the unjust consequences for the Copts in Hegaza, is still vivid in the memory of many Copts.

"In spite of the overwhelming majority of villagers blaming the death of Mohammed Saeed on a relative of his called Abdel Qader Ibrahim, and his brother Noubi, the police decided to accuse the Copts Saleeb, Gamal, and Mounir Adeeb Soliman. Meanwhile, the accusations against the Ibrahim brothers were never investigated," said human rights activist Hala elMasry, who is also a local inhabitant. A sentence of 3 years imprisonment was passed on each of the accused Copt for manslaughter.

In order to please the family of the murdered Muslim, the State Security together with elders of four families in Hegaza decided in a 'reconciliation session' to deport from the village, seventeen Coptic families who are related to the three convicted Copts. A total of 122 Copts left their village, carrying only their personal belongings, leaving behind their homes, fields, businesses and livelihood.

The displaced Coptic families of Higaza are still living away from their homes and still are banned from returning back, five years later.

What brought about the Easter Eve 2009 murders, according to researchers from the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights (EIPR), was that some members of two of the Christian families displaced in 2004, have returned to Hegaza village on the day of the murders to bury one of their relatives in the village cemeteries. One of the murdered, Adib, was the youngest brother of one of the convicted Copts in the 2004 incident.

Among the main Coptic demands, besides the ratification of a law regulating building houses of worship, is the abolition of the unofficial "reconciliation sessions," forced by State Security, which always end up by the Coptic side giving up their right to pursue criminal charges, allowing the Muslim perpetrator to literally "get away with murder."

And who said mohammed regarded Jesus as a Messenger of God? see a muslim desecrating His name! No muslim should ever deceive anybody that 'isa' is the same as 'Jesus'.

Why are muslims so warped in reasoning? . . . . . . .

I wonder why muslims are losing sleep over a corpse that has been buried

Why are muslims dodging the thread on the child bride that died giving birth?

Make una allow Gani's spirit rest!

Who will win?

islamisation? again?

WAEC and customers

Read that Mo even slept with his dead aunt.

mohammed never ceases to amaze me.

Hey you, where you run go hide? abi you dey do ramadan fast?

. . . . and wat is islam? is it not a personification of violence?

see ignorance, if you connect your laptop to internet via phone, you post directly from the laptop, almajiri.

Wan ibume or!, in your warped reasoning, a boy should get in the mud with an elder? what a warped reasoning!

balderdash

Who witnessed the miracle of his defence of his mother? mention names and evidences. Do you think the fake things mohammed wrote in the koran are worth believing?, BTW, who are we to believe, people who walked with him or some deluded fake prophet?

hehehehe

na wa-o, una no go stop?

I wonder why these fanatics will not allow Gani's soul some rest . . . . .

@NL muslims: barka da sallah!

United 4 lyf!

who cares abt jim?

TB Joshua again?

police?