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Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by sino(m): 8:47am On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

now i believe you people know what you do and just got stuck to it for no reason. I've been trying to tell you guys 4 a long time now that there was a big difference between what moses said(laws of moses) and what God said(commandment of God) but the arguement that's stupidly and unrelentingly comes from muslims is "since God inspired the bible, then God said it all" but from your analogy above you've just accepted that there's a difference. Other things you mentioned are vague and childish. You said you cant attribute that which is God to man and the reasoning came from "you cant say a blackman speaking chinese is from china". That totally got me amazed at how you reason! You said "open your mind" as if you have a point and then you started killing yourself with contradictions. does that analogy mean that your allah speak arabic and mohamed speaking/writing it doesn't mean he is from allah? Or let me help you out, maybe you mean that your allah is not a man but his words is interpreted by mohammed to man, but dont you think in the same vein that those "hallucinating historians" just interpreted what God told them in the language of men? Now open your own mind! Like i said earlier, The bible was in existence before mohammed was born, mohammed lived in a jewish state of mecca before he attacked it after amassing troops in medina. So it means he has access to the bible and twisted it to suit his aim. Going to the koran you will see he copied the old testament and twisted it that if you dont know, you'll start thinking muslims are jews. Then in the new testament of christians, he copied the story of jesus and made sure he undermined the superior power of jesus christ so that he(mohammed) will appear to be a great prophet. He even twarted the facts to a point that he denied that jesus christ died nor was even crucified but rather said he was raised by allah to himself quran 4:157 but he didn't have the mind to know(because he wasn't educated) that the romans(neither christian nor jews) recorded that jesus was crucified and that his crucifiction was sanctioned by pontus pilate (check your history, not the bible this time around). Like i said and will continue saying with proofs, islam is a big lie!

vague and childish? Lol, i see i have to break it down more for you to understand.
i know 3 languages, and i speak them fluently. I choose the appropriate to communicate my message to those i am talking to. As humans, cos i speak chinese does not mean my origin is from china! God who is the creator of man and the language they speak need not be associated with any origin cos of the language he chooses to communicate with His creation. If you still dont get it, it shows how limited your reasoning is, i dont think i should be surprised, cos you have already limited God to a mere mortal.
a simple question begging for a yes or no: is the bible the inspired word of God?
you said the laws of mosses is different from the commandment of God, please explain. Is mosses a prophet of God? Did mosses receive revelations from God? What are the commandment of God?
mind you my dear, you are here to explain christianity.
Do you know the difference between history books and Gods book? How many times has the bible been revised? Why so many versions of the bible?

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Bulldog(m): 10:44am On Jan 01, 2012

sino:

vague and childish? Lol, i see i have to break it down more for you to understand.
i know 3 languages, and i speak them fluently. I choose the appropriate to communicate my message to those i am talking to. As humans, cos i speak chinese does not mean my origin is from china! God who is the creator of man and the language they speak need not be associated with any origin cos of the language he chooses to communicate with His creation. If you still dont get it, it shows how limited your reasoning is, i dont think i should be surprised, cos you have already limited God to a mere mortal.
a simple question begging for a yes or no: is the bible the inspired word of God?
you said the laws of mosses is different from the commandment of God, please explain. Is mosses a prophet of God? Did mosses receive revelations from God? What are the commandment of God?
mind you my dear, you are here to explain christianity.
Do you know the difference between history books and Gods book? How many times has the bible been revised? Why so many versions of the bible?

i dont deal in rumour or hearsays like you or your colleagues. here are your blunders:

sino:

the Qur'an was inspired by God in a span of 23years, you can get a copy to read that God is the one talking in the Quran, not someone hallucinating or a group of historians.

since your God is the one talking in your quran and not mohammed allegedly translating, i rightly assumed allah speaks arabic and you corrected me that God can speak any language which i accepted because i know it's true and have proofs of that. This your argument means the people "hallucinating" must have received inspiration directly from God also since God isn't limited to a single language. You see why i said you are childish. Check my last post and see why i believe the quran is a lie made up by mohammed and on the other hand your claims as to the genuity of the bible is baseless.
Secondly

sino:
a simple question begging for a yes or no: is the bible the inspired word of God?
you said the laws of mosses is different from the commandment of God, please explain. Is mosses a prophet of God? Did mosses receive revelations from God? What are the commandment of God?

i said yes to this several times. And i'm confused why it kept coming. As for the question about moses law and the God's commandment, you answered it yourself

sino:

1. i wIll enlighten you dear bulld6g
2. Sino said he will enlighten you
3. Bulldog will be enlightened by sino
of the three above sentence, which can be attributed to me?

read deut 6:1 and deut 12:1 and tell me which was by God and which isn't. If that doesn't satisfy your stupidity maybe this will help. From your above quotation, you said the quran is directly from allah and that means he inspired this about his prophet quran 26:111 why shall we follow you when the worst amongst us
follow you". is that inspired by allah? yes or no?

Finally where the hell did the versioning issue of the bible came? Dont to know that the versioning issue is what is even used against muslims in the past by early missionaries even before the bible versions became rampant ? Are you sure you has a koran? The koran has more than 3 versions! Read: http://islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Qiraat/hafs.html
here's another: http://answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm

chei! my God. When will muslems stop eating the lies their imams teach them and embrace education! Dont die in ignorance

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 1:31pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

definietly the spinal cord is at work again. lol. Did mohammed have any political power? firstly he wasn't born a prince but an orphan, and later a merchant that left his pregnant wife that is few months pregnant to imitate the fasting and prayers jesus christ did in the wilderness. On the other hand, jesus christ was a decendant from the tribe of king david of isreal and a direct descendant of Abraham Matt 1:1-16
The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

why try to mix the history of Muhammad (sa) with that of Jesus (as)?what a loser attitude that will make you more of the loser you fanatical christians are. i thought we were talking about why Jesus did not implement sharia/mosaic law?

so really what does Muhammad (sa) again got to do with the discussion? you fanatical christians are of the habit of trying to insult and tarnish the reputation of our Prophet (sa).you expect each and every muslim to be ignorant of history or weak in argumentation.but you fail to see that you lack logic and reasoning.you behave like animals with their instincts.

i dont know what led you to think that Muhammad (sa) was imitating Jesus (as) when he was in soilitary worship.Muhammad (sa) was in a cave while you say Jesus was in wilderness.if at all,i must say that in your line of logic it was Jesus that was imitating Moses because Moses too was in the wilderness for fourty years while Jesus was for fourty days and nights.so you can see the imitation right there.dont you?

Muhammad (sa) was indeed an orphan who later claimed to be inspired and saw an angel.and in his own head alone did the teachings of Islam arose.and from that one man,God promised him to triumph over his adversaries.he was alone and ended up with hundreds of thousands.so really like i said you as the rest of fanatical christians do not think with your heads or spine.you think with your bottoms!!!

2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;
3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;
6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;
7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;
8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias;
9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;
11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:
12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;
13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;
14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;
15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;
16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

and there you see where Judah an ancestor of Jesus is said in the same bible to have pregnated his daughter-in-law thinking her for a pros.titute.

secondly, mohammed gained your claimed political power by waging war with his followers against mecca and make his laws to favour him and cover his tracks. Jesus christ has many follower too but he did go to war with either the jews nor the romans because as he said: John 12:47
[color=#007788]And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. and again he said in John 8:16
And yet if I judge , my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

Jesus had not many followers.tens of followers? may be!and really if you want to compare Muhammad (sa) the orphan who was prophet to Jesus the "son of God" and your "lord and saviour",you will see one that was successful in his mission and reformed his people and freed arabians from mental and physical slavery while the other as reported in John 1:11 was rejected by his own people and ended up fleeing to heaven for his life as we see that he was hiding.his mission was brought to an abrupt end and a failure!in fact by the account of the bible,he was the most unsuccessful messenger of God.

John 7:13
"But no one would say anything publicly about him for fear of the Jews".

Jesus could never have revolted against the romans.that would have resulted not only in his sentence t death crucifixion but the massacre of all his few followers.

let us see what your fellow christians said about how Muhammad (sa) started since you want to make a competition here between Jesus (peace be upon him) and Muhammad (sa) which you will surely lose:

The famous British historian, Thomas Carlyle, in his book Heroes and Hero worship, refers to this misconception about the spread of Islam: "The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword? Every new opinion, at its starting is precisely in a minority of one; in one man's head alone. There it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword and tries to propagate with that will do little for him. You must get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can."

what i asked you wa how many people did Jesus christ kill anyway if that's your idea of implementing a law, why didn't muslims just read the sharia law to the offenders? this is what upholding a law in islam mean: sunan abu-dawud book 38, number 4349. Narrated by ali ibn Abutalib:
[color=#ff0000] A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_
him) declared that no recompense was payable for her blood this even shows that muslims even take laws into their own hands without letting the appropraiate authority do their job

how could Jesus have killed anyone in passing judgement when he was no judge and was not a political head?

how could his followers even have fought when he was in no position to defend himself and his closest and staunchest of followers denied him? remember the bible said:"they all forsook him and fled".the only time Peter unsheathed his sword (after Jesus asked them to buy swords) was to resist the jews.the presence of the roman sooldiers,quickly made Jesus to give order that the sword should not be used because his few disciples and their swords would not be enough to resist an empire the romans were.

remember also that Jesus told Peter he would deny Jesus thrice before the cock crows!!!so really what sought of followers were those who would deny their master?

as for the hadith you presented,that was at a time of war.if an individual muslim enters a scuffle with a jew,and the jew were known to be harshest on the muslims,then to whom would the muslim who committed that crime pay blood money to?to his jewish enemies who were day and night conspiring to eliminate the few hundreds muslims and their leader?from the words of Muhammad (sa) about blood money,show you that normally such behaviour is not the acceptable behaviour.it is the time they were living in and the enemy they were subjected to their oppression,that made such circumstances prevalent.

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 1:35pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

i'm getting tired of this deutronomy thing dont you read my posts. why reapeating a thing over and over and over again?, God inspired the bible but not when someone is quoted, you claim that it's God that said that. but if you want to run by it that way, fine. allah inspired the quran but this is what i found said about a prophet of allah in the quran 26:111 why shall we follow you when the worst amongst us follow you". is that inspired by allah? please grow up

no! you should not get tired because your christian tricks are pathetic.you have the old testament and the new testament both in the same book you regard as "holy" and "inspired".when proof is brought forward from the former you reject it as something from the "old".

then i brought you from the new testament your very own Jesus whom you claim as of the "new" and your own,referring to the old testament law and upholding it.thus my question:dont you believe both were from the same God? whether that statement was spoken by Jesus or Moses,dont you believe that both accounts in the new and old testaments were from your god? do you think we are mentally clouded and brainwashed?

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 1:51pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

hehehe, and that's merciful for you? read sunan abu-dawud, book 38, number 4396. mohammed sentences a man to death without knowing his sins and the people brought him to order and then he cancels his first judgement and said instead that the man's limbs be severed.he judges before he listens.

firstly,you just exposed your ignorance by referring me as a Shia Muslim to "sunan abu dawud".what the hell is "sunan abu dawud"? i keep repeating that hadiths collections are not 100% authentic.we muslims,both sunnis and shia examine each hadith before we accept it.regardless,i still believe the hadith you are referring to in sunan abu dawud is either not authentic hadith or could be explained better by a sunni,since "sunan abu dawud" is a sunni hadith collection book.

also,the Prophet (sa) was a man.he could understand in one way what people are saying while they intend something else.

you are here making judgement on a Prophet (sa) we muslims accept as a human being while you forget your "god" and "lord and savior" in the new testament who did not know the time of year and cursed a fig tree for not having fruit.now tell me which is more ridiculous?

as for your prophet ali, he is very wicked, striking the man once makes him die much slower and painfully.and for a person of your nature that his arguements makes me bring out time to post thinking that the above represents an act of mercy, i'm starting to have misgivings. let me ask you a thing? did the man later died in the end from the one strike or did he not? i'm afraid i failed to see the show of mercy in that.

Ali (as) is not my prophet ignorant christian fanatic!

that is called justice.do unto others as they do unto you.is that not what Jesus taught you? the man was going to be sentenced to death anyway for murder.do you expect everyone to strike him? you will still complain.do you expect him to be beheaded?you will still call that as wicked.

at least,the crime of the man was to be determined before he was punished.

this is a true show of mercy: after Jesus christ was crusified by the Jews, this was what he has to say [color=#00ff00]Luke 23:34
Then said Jesus, Father , forgive them; for they know not what they do. Note also that he didn't tell his other desciples to kill Judas that betrayed him. this is what is a show of mercy, a show of love of minkind, an unparallelled show of Godliness and an utter fulfilment of the prophesy about him. that is what christians believe and profess!

my friend,you are talking like the fool you are.

Jesus was sentenced by the romans.the jews utilised the romans and their authority to legally get rid of him.his disciples ran for their lives.the bible said they forsook him and fled.Peter denied Jesus thrice.and you are here talking nonsense that he did not ask his disciples to punish his killers.do they even stand the chance to do anything when they were on the run?he did not even stand a chance to face the jews and you think he could face the romans?

as for what he said while allegedly on the cross.there are different accounts.so you could say he said "father forgive them" and you could also report he said" father punish them"! there are inconsistent reports regarding the events surrounding the alleged crucifixion in the four "gospels".

the point is,Jesus preached good reward for those who followed him and upheld the commandments of his father,while he promised hell for those who dont repent.

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 1:55pm On Jan 01, 2012

Judek2:

One of the things I enjoy in this forum is that, It shows Muslims as ignorant students and makes us their teachers. But the complaints of the teachers is,"My students are so loose in understanding a simple Comprehension".

Lets review the verses
Matt.15-1
Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees,which were of Jerusalem,saying,
2) Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
3) But Jesus answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
4) For God commanded,saying, Honour thy Father and thy Mother: and, He that curseth Father or Mother,let him die the death.
5) But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift,by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
And honour not his Father or his Mother, He shall be free. Thus have ye made the covenant of God of none effect by your tradition.

They wanted to accuse the disciples of not keeping the law,but Jesus quoted that verse to them as they dont keep it either.
This is wise,if they keeps all the law,then they are right,but when they dont keep them and points fingers on others who dont keep them too,they are hypocrites.
Its like,"if my disciples must wash their hands according to the law,you must start killing those that curses their Father and Mother also,but since you no longer practice the law,why try to judge them according to the law?".

So tell me,did Jesus sanction it to them or rebuked them?
And tell me any verse where Jesus exhibited that statement?

you are a teacher whose head is with bolt and knot!

Jesus upheld the law when he said:

1.) "i came not to destroy the law or the prophets but to fulfill the law".

2.) the law has to do with what the same God of the new testament revealed in the old testament.

3.) Christians regards both old and new testaments as "holy bible".

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Nobody: 2:05pm On Jan 01, 2012

LagosShia how now grin

See what Sunnis are doing to your people in Indonesia and elsewhere angry

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 2:12pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

excuse me?
this is what allalh said Q 2.193 : '' and fight with them until there is no persecution and religion should be for allah alone.And if they desist, then there should be no hostility except for the oppressors.

this is what the boko haram did: christmas day bombing by the bokoharam

and this is what you said:

you are quoting a verse which is using terms and conditions to fight as "until there is no persecution" and "there should be no hostility except for the oppressors".so are you the one oppressing boko haram? are boko haram oppressed by you that you are justifying their criminal act by presenting a defensive verse from the Quran?

between the bokoharam and you, who is keeping the laws of allah?! you are full of contradiction and also a hipocrite to your evil religion islam because you are ashamed of their inhuman act and is in fear of being condemned to death by denouncing islam as is in the quran. For your info, christians follow the laws of jesus christ our Lord and God unless for sinners.

according to christians your "lord" does not have laws.you keep saying that you are not under the "curse of the law" as Paul puts it that Jesus himself became the curse (Galatians 3:13).so what law are you talking about?you have being given a free visa to heaven with human blood sacrifice.

you are dumb! the criminal acts of boko haram can never be the determining factor of what religion i follow and what is truth and what is false.even with all the pictures of cutting of hands and stonning for adultery will not move my faith an inch.when there is a law that is meant to make descency prevail and stop humans from pursuing jungle life,that law must be respected.whoever breaks that law,deserves the consequences.

A true brainwashed muslim talking, ive shown with evidences that what is being cut off is the hand and not finger and you rather stuck to your gun. you judge the governors but for denying the will of allah from your comment on the boko harám bombings as seen above, who has killed you for that as was the punishment? sahih buahri volume 4, book 52, number 260 [color=#ff0000]Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) goes against his religion, kill him.?? another show of mercy from ali.

that your final analogy suits exactly what bashy has as his slogan. " in the time of corruption and time of boko haram d destiny of a great country rest on d shoulders of a confused president his name is,, " given he is a muslim and blames the crimes of the boko haram on the president futher proves my point and gives more meaning to your police and president ill formulated example.
finally i've asked this several times but you didn't comment. Why the hell would you muslims teach kids how to amputate and so on if not to use them as militants?? link: muslim militants trained young

again you are quoting another sunni compilation of hadith "sahih bukhari" to me as a shia.

as those people who were burn by Imam Ali (as),those people were living in an islamic state and they were propagating that Imam Ali (as) was a deity (god) as you perverted christians believe Jesus is a god.Imam Ali (as) rejected the claim and they persisted.so their so called "god" brought justice to them and burnt them while denying he is not their "god".

i am sure you would not question your god in the bible who killed 50,000 people for starring into a box?or would you?

1 Samuel 6:19
And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.

i keep telling you not to hold the bad behaviour of those you refer to as "muslim miltants" teaching kids this or that for what Islam,the religion teaches.but you and the likes of "frosbel" keep thinking that by showing the bad or wrong behaviours of muslims,you think that would reflect on islamic teachings.yet you would refuse if someone says christianity promotes ho.mo.se.xuality because of "ordained gay bishops"!

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 2:29pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

you said you deal in facts but you are nothing but a rumour peddler! every story i refer to have a link to the source where i culled it from and yours dont! CHRISTIANS AREN'T FIGHTING TO IMPOSE ANY LAWS ON MUSLIMS BECAUSE UGANDA IS PREDOMINANTLY A CHRISTIAN NATION and have normal laws that's neither christian nor islam!

you sound like an illitrate.what the hell is "normal laws"?

Uganda has secular laws.Uganda is predominantly christians.but biblical laws are not enforced.the LRA is fighting for biblical laws to be imposed on the christians just as muslim countries have sharia law for muslims.by the way,sharia and islamic laws are meant for and to be enforced on muslims who believe in them and not on christians.for instance you punish a muslim for drinking alcohol in an islamic state.but you cannot implement a like punishment on christians who drink.

1. uganda is predominantly a christian country since they were colonized by the british and the italian.

2. The militant group than calls themselves the lords resistance army have the agenda of making sure the 10 commandment of God are implemented which is an idea they borrowed from islam. Since the bible made it clear that God alone is judge And they are imposing their sharia~like law on the law of the nation that you claim is a christian law. That's another contradiction on your part. How can a christian law replace a christian law?
3. Their main targets are christians and not muslims in anyway for example: [color=#ff0000] On December 25, 2008, the LRA massacred 189 people and abducted
120 children during a concert celebration
sponsored by the Catholic church in Faradje, DRC, continuing the attack on December 26 much similar to what the boko harám did. Shortly afterwards, the
LRA struck three additional
communities: 75 people killed in a
church north of Dungu, and the church burned; 48 people killed in
Bangadi, and 213 people in Gurba. [25] The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs estimated the death toll as 189 in Faradje, Doruma and Gurba.[25] However, Caritas International estimated the number of victims to be
about 500. On December 28, 2008, the Ugandan
army published details of the Doruma attack, accusing LRA rebels of hacking
to death 45 people in a church there. [26] An aid official speaking to AFP on condition of anonymity confirmed the
December 26 massacre, saying the
killings took place in a Catholic church
in the Doruma area, around 40
kilometres (25 mi) from the Sudanese
border. "There are body parts everywhere. Inside the church, the
entrance and in the church
compound," the aid official said. "We
got information the rebels cut 45
people into pieces," added army spokesman Captain Chris Magezi. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army

funny ignorant confused soul!

so the 10 commandments are stated in the Quran and not in the bible?

4. The LRA are said to have sacrificed christian to the native god of the acholi people and that further confirms that they have no affiliation whatsoever with christians and christians and christian country help fight them to quell their menace to humanity. Another huge contradiction on your part.

that is not my business and i have not seen any evidence to back your claim.the fact is the LRA is a christian fundamentalist group that claims to fight for the implementation of bible laws.now you are denying them and would like us to hear you that they are not "christian enough".but when we deny boko haram,you refuse to accept.we dont even deny that boko haram are muslims.they are muslims however they are misguided.

4. The muslim there though being the minority are already advocating for muslim courts in the nation to exercise sharia law and any one that spoke against it is a candidate for death. Let it be noted that in zamfara and other muslim states in the north, there is no consideration whatsoever to christians there before the sharia law is implemented.

sharia law is for muslims and not for christians.in sharia law christians are not forced to pay Zakat or pray 5 times a day.likewise when the LRA is calling for biblical laws,they must not be implemented on non-christians.and besides,i really dont care what ugandans do with their country.i am talking of nigeria.

lagosShia You are full of lies like the islam you profess and am getting tired of telling you the truth because it is clear you dont want it. You said you deal in idea in facts and not in wishes but since i started telling you facts i've also found you lack facts as well as idea too. tell your self the truth for once!

you are blinded by religious fervor.you lack knowledge.

what i'm saying isn't muslims cant go wrong but what i'm saying is that what you call WRONG in islam is actually what islam and your prophet mohammed stipulates. see sunan adu-dawud book 38, number4348; sunan adu-dawud book 38, number4349; sunan adu-dawud book 38, number4359, sunan adu-dawud book 38, number4390; sunan adu-dawud book 38, number4396; Q.58:22; Q.3:118-120; Q.5:51; Q.9:29; Q.9:113 etc
the quran and islam isn't what they are telling you! and the boko haram is doing exactly the will of allah!!!!!! dont be decieved and broaden your horizon, READ MORE AND ARGUE LESS. No matter how many christian you and your islam KILL, the truth can never be extinguished.

why do you keep quoting "sunan abu dawud" to a shia as myself.

why dont you quote the Quran to us as we quote the bible to you?

we muslims,shia and sunni,believe only in the complete authority of the Quran.only the Quran is 100% authentic.hadith books are subjected to scrutiny.and even what you are referring to in sunan abu dawud is nothing more than a bias view.these hadith books are to be treated with each individual hadith examined for validity.it is failure and dishonesty on the christian part that when you end up with being unable to object to anyting found in the Quran,you keep digging hadith books and bringing hadiths even the ones muslims themselves reject.but when we muslims bring verses from the bible that are humiliating and scandalous,you ignore tham and yet you consider those verses as "word of God".who is fooling who?

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 2:34pm On Jan 01, 2012

frosbel:

LagosShia how now

See what Sunnis are doing to your people in Indonesia and elsewhere

two wrongs dont make a right.i am equally against oppression be it from christians or muslims be they sunni or shia.

so please,we are discussing here the falsehood of christianity and its bible inspite of the continuos attempts by christians to derail the thread and make the topic an islamic one.can't you christians defend your faith and beliefs for once without pointing finger at others and showing how "bad" others are?is that what you are taught?or are you taught to oppose all evils?

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by sino(m): 3:26pm On Jan 01, 2012

@bulldog
Thank the good lord you now understand my language analogy, honestly i am out of another for your level.
I dont know how good you are gramatically, but i'll try my best to bring you up to the level at which sane and logical people operate.
The question i asked concerning the 3 sentences i made earlier is very simple, but you choose not to answer only to bring it up for no good reason.
May i help you out of your misery, the answer is quite simple, the first sentence belongs to me, i am the speaker, its in my own words i.e first person singular.
the second statement can be attributed to a second person reporting what he heard.
The third statement is a third person who we can say was just telling us a story, it can either be figment of his imagenation or heresay.
The bible contains lots of these type of statement i.e 3rd type. Now lets look at a verse from the bible"And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he,(jesus) came, if haply he (jesus) might find anything thereon: and when he (jesus) came to it, he (jesus) found nothing but leaves" (mark 11:13). This definately aint God's word, nor that of jesus, it can only be attributed to mark. Is the bible the word of God or humans?
You know bully, in the whole of the bible books, non is attributed to jesus as the author.
Now to your Quranic quote, i know you so happy in your little mind that you've got a good one lol, God says: "Do they not consider the Quran (with care), had it been from any other than God, they would have found therin many a discrepancy"(Q. 4:82) and also: "And woe to those who write the book with their own hands and then say: this is from Allah to traffic with it for a miserable price! So woe to them for what they earn thereby"(Q 2:79).
you know bully when i asked you if you've gotten a copy of the Quran, the verse you quoted was about the story of Noah(as) and the unbelivers of his time as reported by God. It does not diminish the author of the Quran being Allah in any form.

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by sino(m): 3:34pm On Jan 01, 2012

Assalam alaykum bro @lagoshia.

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 3:49pm On Jan 01, 2012

sino:

Assalam alaykum bro @lagoshia.

wa alaikum assalam brother!

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Bulldog(m): 7:26pm On Jan 01, 2012

lmao:-). Coming down to my level to you sino will be like climbing mountain everest. And thank God you know a little english to know that there are active and passive speeches. Non of the questions i asked you were answered and it's count has reached like 12. But when i answer yours as technically and logically as a human being is supposed to be what you do is to repeat the question again in a more laughable manner. You aren't fit for an arguement because you versioning attack on the bible didn't pave because the koran seems to have even more versions and you didn't even thank me for giving you that info that will help you not to make a great fool of yourself next time. Let me not go into the your blunders on english in your last post because it'll be a little bit out of context 4 me. All your question has been answered by me as any reader can see from checking my previous posts so if you need answers, refer to them. And my questions that the readers of this thread can see for themselves where unanswerable by non of you goes a long way to prove my point. With the proofs i gave and a sound understanding of both the bible and your Quran, i came to the conclusion not by indoctrination but by conviction that islam is evil, that also quran is a massive lie and that muslims are being led by the nose into destruction so lagosShia, not every christian is ignorant of the lies and evil in the quran, what you succeeded in destroying here is islam but if you have an objection to that, go and burn a church and allah will reward you abundantly. Maybe with 14 virgins. Who knows

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Bulldog(m): 7:36pm On Jan 01, 2012

so lagoshia it took you a good 4 days to come up with those? Pathetic, but i'm sure now that whoever reads these now expecially you LRA accusation on christians will know you and all your fellow muslims are nothing more than islam zombies with no knowledge whatsoever.

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Bulldog(m): 7:55pm On Jan 01, 2012

so dear readers make sure you read all the posts so as to conclude for yourselves as beings with free will you are created to be which religion is evil. And if you need more information concerning the evils and lies of islam and the attrocities of prophet mohammed or need to get cleared on any particular place in the bible, you can reach me on gwapsense2@gmail.com and i'll reply to you. May the peace of our lord jesus christ remain always with you forever and ever. Amen

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 7:59pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

so lagoshia it took you a good 4 days to come up with those? Pathetic, but i'm sure now that whoever reads these now expecially you LRA accusation on christians will know you and all your fellow muslims are nothing more than islam zombies with no knowledge whatsoever.

haba Mallam "Bulldog"!
the last post i made before my replies today was on the 30th of december.i have only being totally absent on the 31st of december.how did you count four days?

feel free to throw insults.but when you make false allegations and replies they will be treated unrelentlessly!!!

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 8:01pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

so dear readers make sure you read all the posts so as to conclude for yourselves as beings with free will you are created to be which religion is evil. And if you need more information concerning the evils and lies of islam and the attrocities of prophet mohammed or need to get cleared on any particular place in the bible, you can reach me on gwapsense2@gmail.com and i'll reply to you. May the peace of our lord jesus christ remain always with you forever and ever. Amen

running away from a public forum where you can be tackled and harrassed verbally for lying to the comfort of your email box!!! grin

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Bulldog(m): 8:05pm On Jan 01, 2012

check my posts and see who's been lying and i've been here long enough to clear all your ill informed accusations if you have problems with me leaving your thread because of lack of professionals that can reason at my level, take the case up with your imam

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 8:18pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

check my posts and see who's been lying and i've been here long enough to clear all your ill informed accusations if you have problems with me leaving your thread because of lack of professionals that can reason at my level, take the case up with your imam

okay your "highness"!
may God go with you and may God spare us of more "professionals" like yourself!!! grin

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Bulldog(m): 8:23pm On Jan 01, 2012

LagosShia:

okay your "highness"!
may God go with you and may God spare us of more "professionals" like yourself!!!

Amen. And may our lord jesus christ be with you and help you see the light of christianity on your own. Amen

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 8:32pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

Amen. And may our lord jesus christ be with you and help you see the light of christianity on your own. Amen

you can feel free to insult me and even curse me.but please dont insult Jesus (as) because he is as dear to me as Muhammad (sa) is.they are both mighty prophets of Islam.so why would you insult my prophet,Jesus (as),that he will make a muslim see "light of christianity",something he neither named nor started?

and which christianity are you referring to?is it that of catholics,pentecostals,angelicans,jehovah's witnesses or mormons?

you say you want to take your exit,but you are the one throwing attacks against me and my prophet,Jesus (as).

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by tomzman: 8:49pm On Jan 01, 2012

@lagosshia.You have not yet answered any of bulldog's questions.Pick them out and answer them one by one. We don't need lengthy irrelevances.Thanks wink

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 8:51pm On Jan 01, 2012

tomzman:

@lagosshia.You have not yet answered any of bulldog's questions.Pick them out and answer them one by one. We don't need lengthy irrelevances.Thanks

which questions are you talking about? wink

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Bulldog(m): 9:09pm On Jan 01, 2012

LagosShia:

you can feel free to insult me and even curse me.but please dont insult Jesus (as) because he is as dear to me as Muhammad (sa) is.they are both mighty prophets of Islam.so why would you insult my prophet,Jesus (as),that he will make a muslim see "light of christianity",something he neither named nor started?

and which christianity are you referring to?is it that of catholics,pentecostals,angelicans,jehovah's witnesses or mormons?

you say you want to take your exit,but you are the one throwing attacks against me and my prophet,Jesus (as).

in the quran, jesus is said to have been sent by allah. And this is what legoshia said :

LagosShia:

you mean that wicked psycho you believe in who could not forgive except by killing his son? that's bad!

nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=833476.msg9851819#msg9851819
like i said before, you are a hipocrite. And why would you see my questions if you cant answer it. like i said, please readers, pls read the post well before the liar deceive you. You can see for yourselves how he operate. Lagoshia, show me one place i insulted jesus christ? Thanks tozman for going through the posts first

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 9:13pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

in the quran, jesus is said to have been sent by allah. And this is what legoshia said :nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=833476.msg9851819#msg9851819
like i said before, you are a hipocrite. And why would you see my questions if you cant answer it. like i said, please readers, pls read the post well before the liar legoshia deceive you. [/b]Thanks tozman for going through the posts first

does Allah (swt) have a son? No!

[b]"Can God Have A Son"?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-811919.0.html

do we Muslims believe Allah killed "his son"?No!

do we believe our beloved prophet,Jesus son of Mary (as),was killed? No!

so really what are you talking about?

desperation indeed!!!

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Bulldog(m): 9:39pm On Jan 01, 2012

LagosShia:

does Allah (swt) have a son? No!

"Can God Have A Son"?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-811919.0.html

do we Muslims believe Allah killed "his son"?No!

do we believe our beloved prophet,Jesus son of Mary (as),was killed? No!

so really what are you talking about?

desperation indeed!!!

the readers can see for themselves what the hell i'm talking about.

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 9:45pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

the readers can see for themselves what the hell i'm talking about.

good to that!

but you should not think you can blackmail me.i have my beliefs as a muslims which i subscribe to and hold high.and i do not associate myself with christian beliefs.so if frosbel or anyone from the thread you are cherry-picking from was using insults against my beliefs and prophet,i answer fire for fire until i see the pyramid of lies and falsehood christianity is,is brought down to dust!!!

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Bulldog(m): 9:49pm On Jan 01, 2012

LagosShia:

good to that!

but you should not think you can blackmail me.i have my beliefs as a muslims which i subscribe to and hold high.and i do not associate myself with christian beliefs.so if frosbel or anyone from the thread you are cherry-picking from was using insults against my beliefs and prophet,i answer fire for fire until i see the pyramid of lies and falsehood christianity is,is brought down to dust!!!

lol. I like that reply. Typical of a muslim. He answered fire for fire even at the detriment of making a huge contradiction.

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by Nobody: 9:51pm On Jan 01, 2012

^^^

Absolutely.

They are always on fire, LagosShia , a typical volatile Islamist , give him a matchette and there will be a killing spree grin

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 9:52pm On Jan 01, 2012

Bulldog:

lol. I like that reply. Typical of a muslim. He answered fire for fire even at the detriment of making a huge contradiction.

there is no contradiction.my God does not have a "begotten son".

Quran 112:

"Say He is Allah,the One and only,the Unique One,He begets not,nor was He begotten,and there is none unto like Him"

Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by LagosShia: 9:53pm On Jan 01, 2012

frosbel:

^^^

Absolutely.

They are always on fire, LagosShia , a typical volatile Islamist , give him a matchette and there will be a killing spree

frosbel who keeps hiding behind his many IDs insulting muslims and their Prophet (sa) is here preaching his "gospel" of the satan he is!

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