European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 2:58pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
pamcode: Of course bruyne isn't a novice but the whole team are novice at playing Pep style compared to Barca. Let me ask you this. Assuming you hadn't seen that clip before, and you saw only up to where KDB received the ball and someone asked you what would happen next... Would you predict that: A KDB turns and passes to Kolarov in space on his left B KDB turns and passes the ball to Busquets on his right |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 2:53pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
pamcode: All you mentioned up there are signs of an unblended team and was due to the off - ball marking of Barca meaning there was hardly no time to look around to release the ball to others you got to have a mental position of where your team mates are and Release quickly. That was not a characteristic of any unblended team..those were simple brainfarts. You could pack 10 men in the box, but fernandinho would fall down and give Messi a free chance at goal. You could pack 10 men in the box and an errant kdb back pass would still open up a tightly packed defence. These are errors that can happen independent of tactics. So trying to qualify these individual errors as products of poor tactics is not on...especially when the players making these stupid errors are world class players that should actually know better. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 2:29pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
pamcode: Look at the 2nd Gif for example. First guy passed to his mate and was quickly pressured by Barca players, fellow panicked and tried to quickly pass but he was dispossessed, am sure when he received the pass he had no immediate person in mind to pass to. That second guy was KDB...if it was a novice, this excuse would hold. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 2:27pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
pamcode: last two of Messi came from a city player misplacing a pass to his team mate. To me they haven't quite mastered the art of passing the ball under pressure and to make things worse they met the masters of the style. You mean Gundogan and KDB have not mastered the art of passing under pressure? Gundongan wasn't even under pressure when he made that stoopid pass. KDB had a very open passing lane to Kolarov in acres of space to his left. Both chose to make ediotic decisions...which are uncharacteristic of them anyway. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 12:55pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
pamcode: Yeah they lost but at least not this bad and their past meetings took place in the 2nd round and higher. In the past they lost because they were out played yesterday they lost because they made silly errors trying to play a style the other team were better at. I strongy disagree with this bit Origin of the 1st goal [img] http://media./media/TJeybUjivUzjG/giphy.gif[/img] Origin of the second goal [img] http://media./media/1wpobCcmWg6as/giphy.gif[/img] Origin of the 3rd [img] http://media./media/OEA29evVfUps4/giphy.gif[/img] Can you please point out which one of these goals were cause by 'trying to play a style the other team were better at'? As far as I can see, none of these mistakes came from attempting intricate passing moves. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 12:20pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
raumdeuter: You mean Ambassadors Christian fellowship behind that Catholic church(maybe St Jude) on Toyin street. There used to be one cybercafe around there Easysurf na there I dey go browse actually na there I learnt to use the internet perfectly before yahoo boys chase us out with their use of email extractor that was hogging the bandwidth. Before overnight browsing I usually fellowship there and donate the little non browsing cash to epp the ministry
Is it Legacy School for Shasha road almost opposite CKC church field where you dey go smoke igbo or use incense to praise God Jesus! This guy!!!! I only used to pass through egbeda on my way to church in akowonjo those days....so I don't know what you're on about.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 12:13pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
raumdeuter: Those places have been there for ages and every guy man in that axis suppose know those place. WHat you were doing in those places is what you should tell us, Me I was just passing the shortcut from Ikeja underbridge to the market. I didnt look left nor right and I covered my ears so I didnt hear any "Customer how far na?", I am sure you cant say the same Lmao I was just waiting for you to mistakenly mention Ambassadors to legacy as the old man pervert of the sports section |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 12:11pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
larride: I have been going through all the comment since the match ended and no one has actually pointed out the tactics which Pep used in this particular match. Guardiola always had a trick up his sleeve, though, and here City managed to transform into a three‑man defence with and without the ball, in two ways. In possession Pablo Zabaleta would drift inside to become an extra central midfielder, turning City from a 4-1-4-1 to a 3-2-4-1. It was a tactic witnessed earlier in the season but appeared to have been ditched – trust Guardiola to revive the system away at this season’s Champions League favourites. That approach did not affect the game significantly but City’s pressing was extremely impressive – and again that resulted in them shifting temporarily to a three‑man defence. Ilkay Gündogan moved forward to join De Bruyne pressing the opposition centre‑backs, Nolito and Raheem Sterling shut down Barça’s full-backs while David Silva and Fernandinho marked Sergio Busquets and Andrés Iniesta respectively. This left the third central midfielder, Ivan Rakitic unmarked so, when the ball was in Barça’s left-back zone, Nolito moved inside to shut him down. However, when Nolito needed to press the makeshift right-back Javier Mascherano, John Stones would step forward, becoming an additional midfielder, to shut down Rakitic. This left three City defenders to cope with the fabled front three of Lionel Messi, Luis Suárez and Neymar. Nevertheless the pressing was effective at stopping the service into them – at half-time Barça’s three forwards had completed only 20 passes between them. Guardiola had succeeded in starving Barcelona’s best players of the ball.https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/oct/20/pep-guardiola-trick-barcelona-manchester-city-etihad |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 12:08pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
donjazet: Could u please give me a little tutorial on how you posts gifs or attach images directly in your posts. I would appreciate. 1. Right click on the image you want to embed (presumably on a website) and select 'copy image address' 2. Start a new post on Nairaland and click on the 'insert image button'. It's the one next to the red A in the editing ribbon 3. Paste the image address url in the [img][/img] c'est fini p.s only works with http links. so drop the extra 's' if you're embedding from a website that employs encryption |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 11:49am On Oct 20, 2016 |
first kuwait, now ipodo...something tells me that my path must have crossed ramuzaki's at least once in this life... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:10am On Oct 20, 2016 |
BossKratos:

LOSS? I'm not a bloody shitty fan....
its funlord mofo.....  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 8:47am On Oct 20, 2016 |
BossKratos: "Fernandinho is well known for his blistering pace and ability to shoot from long distances. He is described as "A DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER with a box to box style of play, contributing in large part to the defense and the attack. With a powerful shot and great passing range, Fernandinho has played an important part in breaking up opposition attacks and creating goal scoring opportunities"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernandinho_(footballer)
You know what he is mate....stop with the gimmicks! The very same sentence describes him as a box-to-box midfielder. Abi is this not the same Wikipedia? I'm not interested in arguing semantics this morning abeg. It's pretty obvious what I meant re Fernandinho...if you dont get it then...sorry for your loss.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 10:29pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
bigkesh: And when you are a man down against Barca at camp nou every normal being who isn't an extremist like Pep would close the shop and hope to hit on the counter.... That he even came out and allowed Barca a lot of space with a numerical disadvantage shows he is a dunce...
Like we have not seen a team beat barca with a red card..
It could have easily been 7,Neymar miss PK sef.....This is Pep in every big game,embarrassing score lines from all angles Once you're a goal and a man down against Barca, it's practically over. And Pep cannot be expected to account for the utter stewpidty of Bravo when formulating his tactics. I say go to the Barca thread and see where Barca fans were openly musing if they had a midfield during the match. Bravo killed city today, aided and abetted by John Stones |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 10:21pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Ibime: 3 months ago after Man City's first two matches, me and my guy had discussed that we can't wait to see City face Barca, they will get hammered.
I don't need to speculate what I already know as facts. It would be naive of me to watch City doing initial gra gra in the first 30 mins, then when they inevitably get soundly beaten, act all shocked like #haneveresperredit.
After your criticisms of Jose tactics against Liverpool, this was the perfect opportunity to show ninjas how a manager should approach big games. Pepper never rest, you started hailing Peps tactics upandan because of initial gra gra, only to find they got the disgrace of their life. Don't tell me youneveresperredit!  Guy I say when I made that post, City were already 1 nil down so no be say dem shoot bird e mama fly. Barca scored a lucky goal but City were still very much in the game...then Bravo struck. I honestly did not esperredat... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 10:18pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
donjazet: I guess you were trying a subtle shade/dig but boy am I glad it backfired  Fernandinho played dm today, I don't know what you are saying. As for your earlier statement about balance. Chelsea is very much imbalanced but I am glad conte has discovered a unique formation that tries to bring out the best of this squad. You might as well pull me up for saying city had no striker despite playing KDB upfront. There's a difference between a players natural position and where he plays on the pitch. I didn't want to go into a cheap discussion similar to the Macsherano debate on thr Bayern thread because I felt the meaning of my post was pretty obvious. I agree with your second post and that's the point that I was trying to make. Forget out balance, it's about how the manager sets up his team...tactics is the key difference between a Pep and a Pellegrini. It's a shame it disn't quite work out for him today though. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 10:06pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Ibime: Maybe you possess little sense of danger, or little sense of space on a football pitch.
I can watch a match where a team look to be playing well and know thet will get hammered just by the amount of space they afford the opponent. Pep specialised in that whenever he took Bayern to face Barca. You did not watch the match at all so you don't know what happened...you can only speculate based on scores. Go to the Barca thread and read the comments during the game to have a real understanding of what was going on. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 10:04pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
bigkesh: See Messi,Neymar,Iniesta and Suarez moving in acres of space and some people are trying to tell us about sexy football
You have a weak defence against the best attack there is,and a midfield that can't stand your opponent's and you come out all pressing and attacking to subscribe to one yeye ideology of football....... Oga park the bus like a boss
You have Messi and co running at your defenders with so much space,what tactics is that? Until that red card, Messi et al were not seeing space at all. That lucky goal was the only shot on target Barca had that half and they only managed 3 shots the entire first half...and that included a freekick. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:58pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Ibime: I ain't watching the match but I'm seeing the scores. It's 4-0 my nigga!!  It was obvious you weren't watching the match already. When I made that comment City were already 1-0 down sef...but they were still very much in the game. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:54pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
SailorXY:
the kind L wey dey nihilist neck this night eh, na only forklift fit comot am. What L? Even Barca fans on their thread were saying that city were out playing them before fernandinho fell down. That was pretty obvious to anybody who has at least one functioning eyeball. Then the city boys started making mistakes after mistake. No set of tactics in this world can cover for 3 hardworking idiots in bravo, stones and kolarov. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:49pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
All I'm going to say is I thank God that we did not buy stones.
Gosh what a bad market. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:36pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
larride: No you are the one that goofed and looking for an escape route.
The difference is that Fernandinho usually play as a DM for City while KDB was just used as a false nine in this particular match.
whether Pep use 4-1-4-1 or 4-2-3-1, Fernandinho either plays as the DM or as the B2B if Fernando is on the pitch, claiming otherwise means you don't watch any City matches or you just want to argue for fun.
Show/List any match/matches where Fernandinho plays as the CM.
Thank you. Guy help yourself and use Google. The information you seek is on there. Goodnight. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:34pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Ibime: Chelsea has never lost 3-0 to Barca even with 10 men.
Tactics ko, tictacs ni. You clearly can't be watching the match otherwise you wouldn't say this. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:24pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
larride: Whatever rocks your boat man.
Even when transfermarkt claim he does play as DM, yet baba Nihilist won't agree he's a DM but we should agree that he's a CM because transfermarkt says so.
You are good bro.
Cheers. You have serious comprehension problems bro. In this same match KDB is playing up front. He must be a striker. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nihilist: 9:19pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Matthieu  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:18pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
larride: Take your L like a man bro.
Fernandinho plays as a DM considering the kind of formation they play. even your transfermarkt claims he plays as a DM.
This particular match that we are watching, Fernandinho plays as the DM.
Once again, take your L like a boss and walk away. If you could understand English, you would have seen where I told you that Fernandinho is as much a DM as KDB is a striker. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nihilist: 9:17pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
See stones.
City should have just signed me instead. I'm just as useless as stones as a defender but at least I'm cheaper. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:13pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
SailorXY: so the games Fletcher partnered Carrick in defense & flanked by Valencia, SAF played with only one defender? My discussion is actually about how the Chelsea squad is supposed to be unbalanced. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:12pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
larride: I repeat you goof, you should accept it and move on. Fernandinho has been playing the DM role in City for almost all his time there, I don't know why you have to argue against that really.
Even in this same match, he was the DM while Gundogan was the b2b.
I ask again, how did Pep not use a DM? Nihilist does not own tranfermarkt website bro so I don't understand this aggression. You can play in a pivot and not be a DM, ask Santi Cazorla, Ander Herrera or Fabregas. You can be the deepest midfielder for your team and still not be a DM, ask Pirlo. Fernandinho is not a DM. Cheers. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nihilist: 9:07pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Chai and Messi was 5/1 to score next.
I should have just bit the bullet. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:02pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
larride: Baba, Fernandinho is a DM, nothing more, nothing else. You can't change that with your own word of the mouth. I really wish I would screenshot, I for show you how they describe him.
You goof, accept and move on.
Peace. What goof?
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 9:00pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
pamcode: Imagine Bravo. Joe Hart go just dey laugh. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nihilist: 8:58pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Bravo  |