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Nateevs

Arsenal has changed their system this season bro. Even Arsenal fans will tell you that.Did you see what they to us? When have you seeen Arsenal boys playing like they just got hooked up with Walter White?

Klopp had an immediate effect on Liverpool bro. Do you remember there Europa cup run? Do you remember their rounds against Dortmund?

Pep completely destroys your argument. He went to the place where the 10 players he wanted were in place and was working wonders. Yet Pellegrini had those same Guys and couldn't do the same magic? How come? I can guarantee you that if Klopp came to the bridge this very second, you will see an immediate difference.

Like I said earlier, I'm happy to be proved wrong and ofcourse I want what's best for the team. I really don't think that Conte is tactical enough to get the best of our boys.

Griffon:
Phuck this talk, you don't expect a manager to perform with a bunch of fagged out legs and couple of panic buys.

How do you expect tactics to bell you out when the system isn't right?

No matter how good you are as a manager, if the players at your disposal aren't just good enough, your tactics are there to beautify the bull crap you've been handed.

I asserted before the season started that we needed two CMs, two defs and a forward. How many ninjas did we end up with?

Conte even had to express his discontentment at some point, that was how bad it was. Let's not all act like we are in possession of short memories buds.

This man wanted Koulibaly but was given Luiz in return. This man wanted Candreva, Ricardo Rodriguez et al but got either uber-crap or nada in return.

Now how do you expect a mansion that was built on a fvcked up foundation to stand? Tell me how? My best guess is miracle, one factor we must heavily rely on this season.

Guy it's not even up to a year ago that some guys including yourself were claiming that the reason why WestHam were above us in the league was because they had a better midfield.

Well, WestHam have kept the same midfield as last season (they've even improved it).

The WestHam midfield that was so greatly lauded last season is balls deep in the relegation zone while our performances are still crap despite adding Kante to the mix


OK compare Sunderland of Allardyce to Sunderland of Moyes with largely the same basement dweller players.

Compare Tony Pulis Stoke to Mark Hughes Stoke right now - Many of the same players dey there.

OK let's look at Watford of Last Season. Compare to this season.

Leicester won the league in may with a collection of also rans and has beens with a great system mate.

That's all.

patrickmuf:
If Conte could get the best out of that Italy team at the Euros, then it is not out of place to be optimistic in Chelsea's case.
I also support the school of thought that he is more of a coach who rather than play, prefers to stop the opponent from playing and for a club like Chelsea, I don't know how much time his past achievements can buy him...

Did Conte really get the best out of that Italy team?
That's debatable.

What's on record though is that unfancied teams, like Wales and Portugal managed by unfancied managers outshone Italy and Conte by a considerable margin.

Ofcourse the tournament format had a part to play in Portugals victory but I don't know if we can be absolutely certain that Conte got the best out of that Italian squad.

kokaneprodigy:
You really hit the nail on the head.

I've always been reserved when pple dwell on transfers and undermine training and playing with a system that will bring the best out of the players. It's a shame fans and even so called professional pundits/journalists now dwell so much on the former.

United for example has been very active if not the most active when it comes to transfers in the last couple of years yet struggling to play to the satisfaction of its fans.

For a football manager the ability to identify what player works in your system and how to get the best out of what u have is paramount. Ozil if placed in MOU team at Chelsea or the current United will flop cos this is a manager that lays more emphasis on physicality and strong ability to be defensive than some sleek passing ability.

Torres' career hit a very deep trough at Chelsea bt we can all see what he's doing @ atletico, Di Maria under Van Gaal almost looked like an amateur. My point is it's not all abt big names.

What has happened to player development thru trainings and creating a system that works for u. This Hazard y'all keep criticising is one talented player that just needs a system to thrive in.

Indeed.

I believe that the best managers create tactics around the players they have, and then fine tune it by adding one or two new players at a time- eg Ferguson, Ancelotti and so on.

We've been hearing that we dont have the players for this formation or that formation, but surely there must be a formation that works for these guys.

What's annoying is that despite Conte's defensive approach, we're still leaking goals like no man's business. If we're not going to keep clean sheets anyway, why doesnt setup to outscore opponents instead? We have a very decent attacking force afterall.

That's why I'm not convinced that the players are entirely to blame here. It's not enough to point to success in a league where players from winning eleven era on PS1 are still running around in FIFA 17 on ps4.

nateevs:
Excel going forward you say.

ManCity - Sterling, Aguero, Molito, Toure, Gundogan, Silva, DeBRyune, Sane, Ihenacho . . . .
Arsenal - Carzola, Xhaka, Ozil, Ramsey, Perez, Chamberlain, Sanchez, Iwobi,
Liverpool - Lallana, Wijnaldum, Coutinho, Firminio, Mane, Surridge, Origi. . .


Have you seen those players? Please tell me what is common with these players? Brilliant technical ability on the ball, passing ability way above average, vision and football intelligence. Tell me if this doesn't immediately half the work of the manager.

Please tell me what we have at Chelsea. I mean, Ramires was being paraded as one of the starting 11 of Chelsea this time last year by Mr Defensive football, while the likes of DeBruyne, Mata, Luiz and other ball holding players were being sold. Rami-fucking-res in our midfield for Bleep's sake - only because he could run.

For 3 seasons, I complained about the same deficiencies - Hazard being our only creative outlet. I complained about Willian being of average output, about our 'method of attack' amongst many others. Now these issues we consciously condoned are coming back to bite us in the ass.

Let's have perspective for heaven's sake.


This problem did not start today. When we were busy spending billions arranging a mechanical team and hailing the system that created it, I was stating for years that you cannot build a dynasty when your first approach to football is preventing others from playing.

Over a billion spent and we are back where we started - mid-table.



This is not Conte's fault. Let the man some space and let us for once, accept that we need time to build anything long-lasting.

Good morning Egbon nateevs.

Happy Sunday and Eku Independence.

With all due respect, I feel that your post up there has actually undermined your argument rather than strengthened it.

Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City have largely unchanged squads to last season but the results couldn't be anymore different.

Liverpool that finished in 8th place last season are now mountinh a title charge. City that barely managed to get into 4th place last season are looking nigh on unstoppable now. Arsenal that capitulated their title challenge in such spectacular manner are playing like men on a mission.

Bar one or two players, the overwhelming majority of the players you mentioned were at the same clubs last season.

So what's changed?

Pep went to City and has completely ignored defending and focused on attack. Wenger is now playing Sanchez up front, which has allowed Walcott back into the team with devastating effect.
Klopp's system was already looking like bearing dividends having appeared in two finals last season, and with one or two additions to the squad, has crafted a tsystem so deadly that their best striker can't even make the first 11.

Good players are great to have, but a great system makes average players look great. Compare sterling of last season to this season. Look at what's happening at Spurs. Lamela, Son, Dembele, Sissoko. These are all players that were suffering stagnation in their careers until they met Pochettino.

So yeah we might have some crap players. But I have not seen anything from Conte to suggest that he has the ability to get the best out of these guys.

That's where I'm coming from.

timbros:
I think it's the players that is letting him down. On the drawing board, Conte has a winning team but on the pitch, the players are letting him down big time. Maybe if there will be an overhaul, he will get players who can implement his ideologies on the pitch.

The players are letting him down defensively no question.

But Mancity Arsenal and Liverpool are very dodgy at thr back but excel going forward.

We have a striker in superhot form and Hazard. The manager doesn't look like he is trying to get the best out of them to me.

timbros:
Nihilist Greatihex

Isn't it too early for this Conte out talk?

Maybe so.

The thing is that I cannot see anything in this play to suggest that patience will be rewarded.

Remember when Baba said Conte wants defensive football. I've seen enough now to not expect any attacking flair during this regime. It's alright beating the Hulls and Leicesters of this world. But it's the Liverpools and Arsenals and their likes that we should contesting with, and that's where Conte's lack of nous becomes apparent.

I'm not Anti Conte in the sense of vociferous rejection. I'm open to be won over. I just don't think it will happen.

nateevs:
Well Fabregas has not started, Matic is in the mix against Hull and we are ahead, comfortably.

Individual efforts bailed us out today purely because it is the first time Chelsea ever lined up lack this. You can see the tactical indiscipline over the place.

But this game had shown one thing, Mr Conte is very adaptable and he is learning quickly.

Maybe..

Let's wait and see.

nateevs:
What is the right team?

To be honest, I couldn't tell you for sure. I feel that Fabregas should be starting against the likes of Hull and that Matic really shouldn't be in the mix.

Individual efforts are bailing out the team yet again. I need hazard goal sha for my fantasy team.

nateevs:
For real?

Forget these goals.

I don't really have faith in the man's tactics.
This thread is probably the most divided when it comes to individual opinions but we all seem to agree that Conte is picking the wrong team everytime...

Conte out abeg.

OK let's see this new style.

I quite like it on paper

bigkesh:
My team that had Umtiti,Kante,Musonda and Arfa..


Pls let's forget it

Bros no be fight.

But you dey try scouting wise sha.

bigkesh:
When I said we should sell Willian and sign Dembele,they all laughed and insulted me.......Now they appreciate him





Bigkesh the greatest scout of all time

You're giving yourself too much credit.

Go back a couple of pages on this thread and you will see a conversation between nateevs Ibime and myself that briefly touches on dembeles reputation here.

I can't believe you think you were the only one that know the reigning ligue1 player of the year.

What Lalaboi and griffon challenged you about was your team selection after all your players were bought.And ofcourse I mainly objected to Ben Arfa...who isaid currently unable to make the PSG bench despite a lack of injury and amidst swirling rumours of being overweight again.

I might need to remind you that Dembele did not even make in the cut in your own team selection sef.

So chill out nigga.

donjazet:
Always give links/source of your stories for credibility.

You can always copy the first line of the article and paste into google sir. It's quite easy, and will also help learn to develop the habit of searching for for knowledge.

See link below:

http://bfy.tw/7xd2

You need a paid subscription to read The Times though.

Eurosport also looking at the obvious here:

There is a feeling that for Michael Emenalo, for so long the focus of fans' palpable discord, time may be finally running out. The affable, but quite calculating Nigerian has been blamed for many things while at Chelsea – some fair, some less so.

He bears the brunt of many fans’ ire because, unlike mere managers such as Jose Mourinho or Carlo Ancelotti, it is difficult to quantify exactly what he does. J[b]udging him on results is tricky, because few can realistically say what initiatives or signings were actually his decision, and which came from either above or from some other nebulous quantity in the Court of King Roman.[/b]

Certainly there have been successes: he played a key role in the decisions to sign, for example, Kevin De Brune and Romelu Lukaku – both then moved out of the club under the influence of Mourinho, in decisions much regretted since. The unpopular moves lumped upon him – the appointment of Rafael Benitez, the failure of the academy to strike first-team gold, the signings of players not fit for the shirt – vary in terms of culpability between his stall, and several others close to the club board.

The biggest thing in his favour is arguably also the strongest point of criticism: that, like those who dealt with King Henry, Emenalo has learned in relations with his own superior that you can only go so far in disagreeing with the man at the very top.

There is a strong argument Chelsea would benefit from having someone in his position less concerned with simply doing the main man's bidding, and more with challenging such orders with the benefit of actual relevant hands-on experience.

[size=14pt]The signs that Emenalo's star is fading are subtle – but difficult to ignore. He is understood to have objected to two of the more controversial signings of the January window: the taking of Alexandre Pato on loan, and the buying outright of Matt Miazga.

Both deals bore the fingerprints of football agent and fixer Kia Joorabchian – who immediately before had managed to secure a remarkable £25m for Chelsea to ship fringe midfielder Ramires to China.

The unofficial position as Chelsea's preferred agent, taken for the most part by Jorge Mendes during Mourinho's tenure, seems to have been recently occupied by Joorabchian.[/size] And, with manager-in-waiting Antonio Conte apparently making noises about wanting his own man in at technical director level, the news for Emenalo does not look especially promising.

That is something he may be aware of, given that those schooled in reading his body language talk in recent weeks of a more closed and less effusive quality than normal in his manner.

Abramovich is famously a hard taskmaster – and this latest movement in his cloud of advisors is unlikely to be the last. Though at this stage Emenalo will be grateful that it is King Roman and not King Henry who is his employer: for one imagines any severance package might be slightly more personally beneficial than those handed out to all of those Thomases.

Pretty strong Allegations from the Times here...

The story of Chelsea’s future begins with a defender José Mourinho did not want and André Villas-Boas brutally cut loose. It takes in a former Brazilian president, a bribery scandal and a ubiquitous Iranian fixer, and ends with Roman Abramovich lavishing more than £70 million — thus far — to add a dash of the Seleção to Stamford Bridge.

At the centre of it all is a Brazilian agent, Giuliano Bertolucci, whose influence on the game in football’s most iconic nation is so great that his peers refer to him as Giuliano Berlusconi.
Those who know him say he is adored by his players, feared by their clubs and trusted implicitly by Abramovich and his advisers. He helped to smooth Ramires’s move to London and represents David Luiz, Lucas Piazón and, most famously, Oscar, brought to Stamford Bridge for £25 million this summer. In other words, Bertolucci is the man Abramovich has entrusted with his vision of creating a Chelsea built in the image of Brazil.

For that, perversely, the Russian has Alex, the burly defender signed from PSV Eindhoven in 2007, much to Mourinho’s chagrin, to thank. It was during negotiations to take the defender to Holland that Piet de Visser, now one of Abramovich’s chief advisers but then working as a scout at PSV, first met Bertolucci. The two struck up an accord. It was a relationship that would bear fruit.

By that stage, the Brazilian was making inroads into the European market elsewhere, too. He had several clients at Corinthians, and had a fine rapport with Andrés Sánchez, the club’s president. When Kia Joorabchian’s MSI consortium took over the club, Sánchez recommended Bertolucci to the Iranian. Bertolucci also had a good relationship with Luís Filipe Vieira, then the president of Alverca, a lower league side based in Lisbon and affiliated to Benfica. When, in 2003, Vieira took over the running of the senior club, he continued to use Bertolucci’s services extensively.

“He has a tremendous eye for a player, for knowing who will make it,” says Gustavo Arribas, an Argentinian agent who has worked extensively with Bertolucci in South America. “That is the most important skill an agent can have, and Giuliano is exceptionally good at it.”
But while Bertolucci’s clients speak extraordinarily well of him, praising his assiduousness and his loyalty, a number of clubs, particularly in his homeland, have been rather less impressed with his work. São Paulo, in particular, have been left aggrieved. Two of Chelsea’s Brazilian contingent, Oscar and Piazón, have passed through the club, both enduring what might be termed contractual difficulties for which São Paulo have blamed Bertolucci.

Both players — as well as the striker Henrique, another Bertolucci client — refused to sign contract extensions at São Paulo in 2010, threatening to take the club to court unless they were permitted to leave. Casemiro, a midfielder, revealed at the same time that he had been offered a bribe worth £300,000 and the promise of a move first to Benfica and then to Chelsea by Bertolucci if he rejected his contract offer.
Casemiro refused; Piazón and Henrique took their claims out of court and Oscar left to join Internacional, a move beset by legal difficulties that were only resolved this year. Bertolucci is believed to have helped Oscar’s new employers pay the player’s transfer fee. His reward was around 10 per cent of the £20 million Chelsea paid Internacional to sign the playmaker this summer.

Juvenal Juvêncio, the São Paulo president, vowed never to deal with Bertolucci again. He even sought talks with Lula, the country’s socialist president, in an attempt to curb agents’ powers. It is a measure of Bertolucci’s influence, though, that those problems have now been long forgotten. “There are no issues with him,” Adalberto Baptista, São Paulo’s chief executive, told The Times. “Everything has been resolved satisfactorily.” Internacional, too, speak highly of him. If Chelsea’s Brazilian contingent provide Abramovich with the side he dreams of, his star will remain in the ascendant at Stamford Bridge, too.

jmaine:
Oga Nihilist, I can see you have gotten your latest Football fix despite the inherent frustration that will be visited upon us .

I see more DLCs of the Journey in the near future.

Guy this is the best fifa yet.

No running around. No zig zag. Passing in uber fleek.

Presentation is Amazeballs.

Guy this is it!

Until the inevitable patch comes...

Ibime:
You think I pay that nonsense post any mind? Too busy for bullshyt.

Go and count how many players in other clubs belong to the same super agent.

15 players in 13 years is nothing for a club that has turned over more than 400 players in that time. But then again, Maths was never your strong point.

I can show you clubs that have twice as many from one agent in same timeframe, so relax your brain Einstein. Ain't got time for nonsense yarns.

Of course you won't have time for bullshyt when something that threatens your Emenalo fantasies pops up in your face.

If it's to argue irrelevant points, you will pop up.

Those 15 plus players I mentioned were just over the last 3 or 4 years with the exception of Alex, and a large number of them are currently in the first team.

In my line of work as an independent contractor, I have to deal with agents to find new opportunities when I can. Several companies I've worked for have Preferred Suppliers Lists where they only deal with one or two recruiting agencies.

If you see 5 or 6 players in one team sharing the same agent, logic tells you that club has a PSL.

Logically the next thing to consider is, how come a large concentration of first team players are represented by one guy?

Does the TD have the power to maintain a PSL? Or is this done higher up at the club.

You're right about one thing though. Maths isn't really my strong point....thats why I pay an accountant like you to do my books.

donjazet:
I think you are wrong in understating and underestimating Conte's achievements with juve. They had finish 7th the TWO previous seasons. He came, steadied the ship, gave them self belief and confidence again. Improved them tactfully by introducing the now famous 352. Has all the credit for moulding and shaping paul pogba.

He Has the highest league record in all of europe till date.
He broke many domestic records.

He basically laid the foundation for their modern success. just like mou did for chelsea in his first stint, pep/cruyf did for barca, and van gaal/henykens jupp for Bayern.

The only negative in his CV might be his supposed underperformance in Europe but this may excused considering his limited exposure there (3 years). But the fact that juve reached the final a year showed that what he did there worked subsequently.

I believe that given time, he will succeed.

I did not say Conte is a bad coach.

A bad coach cannot win the league 3 times in a row.

Yet, when you consider that only 2 Italian teams have made UCL group stages for the last 6 seasons, and the fact that Juve have won 5 straight years, it becomes obvious that there as much of a challenge in the Serie A as there is elsewhere.

And for me, that means that Conte is still somewhat unproven....

Ibime:
The minute some niggas pit their tents with Emenalo as a mere figurehead ignoring all facts and past history, the reality will catch up with them.

Props to Emenalo on Batshuayi signing though, I like him as a player.

24 hours later you still can't explain why 15 of our players are signed to the same man.

The same man who a sports lawyer told you is partly responsible for Roman's purchase of Chelsea.

What if I told you that some of the targets we were linked just this summer with are signed with that same agency?

Koilibaly? Witsel? Thiago Maia?

How come?

raumdeuter:
Cahill is soapy. That nigga is 30. for a central defender, thats still a fairly good age. Age can be the excuse for Terry and Ivanovic but not for the Oshe dudu Osun Cahill



So which coach do you believe in? Give 3-5 names who will work for Chelsea



Where was Juventus before he took over from Luigi Del Neri? What of his work with the Italian NT at the last Euros?



I'm not saying I believe in Conte or don't but the excuse of winning the Serie A is poor,

Assuming Moyes was able to win the EPL does that mean the man he took over from Fergie is not a good coach?

You're nitpicking at points that are neither here or there with regards to Cahill. It's not like I didn't mention that he was crap. Infact,during the times when 'midfield' was the reigning excuse for poor form a few years back, I was one of the dudes pointing out that our defence was creaky and should be given priority in recruitment.

That being said, this same team finished 3rd and 1st within the last two years. Jose can say his usual yarns, but we all know that anything that comes out of Jose's mouth is to further the Jose brand and deflect trouble/failures elsewhere. But he gets a pass.

He's a champion not just in multiple countries but in Europe. As far as football goes, Jose is one of the most successful to ever get involved in the game. He's a bona-fide legend with a secure and assured legacy.

Conte on the other hand has only won in an Italian league widely seen as one of the most, if not the most corrupt leagues in civilised Europe. He managed the biggest and most succesful team there which has now won the league 5 times in a row...and are topping the league yet again.

The fact that his predecessor is looking like replicating his feat with no stress, whilst managing a team of pensioners suggests to me that even Moyes has a fair crack at success given the same opportunity.

Your Moyes analogy makes no sense. Moyes did not and could not have won the EPL for the very reasons I highlighted up there. EPL is not a one horse league like Serie A and Bayernliga.

I don't feel Conte has done enough in his career to justify making such a statement. When he wins a trophy in a more competitive league,I will take him more serious.

donjazet:
I wrote this few days back and here is conte confirming my thoughts about this team..



https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1875841/chelsea-transfer-news-five-blues-stars-set-to-face-the-axe-as-antonio-conte-lines-up-major-shake-up/

I don't know about overperforming because Jose finished 3rd in his first season with those players. And with Torres upfront too! Matic was in mad form when he arrived in January, and continued to show his form in the next season.

Now obviously, with some of these guys age has simply caught up with them especially the likes of Ivanovic and Cahill. I think Cahill in particular has always benefitted from John Terry organising his movement in defence, and he has decidedly looked very crap since Terry got injured.

I'm going to be very upfront here and say that I don't relieve believe in Conte. Juventus have now won the league 5 times in a row...and they're topping the table again

2 different managers, achieving the same result in 5 consecutive years tells me that the league title is pretty much a foregone conclusion. The average age of the Juve squad is probably like 100 years old, and it seems like a place where grandpas go to die, yet last season they won the league with 3 games to spare.

I'm not convinced he is getting the best out of this squad, so I doubt his ability to improve with new players

Can't wait to get home and scatter the place.

The Journey, here I come...

A40:
I told you. KWARUPSHIN is very very rife in your league

More to come. Asiri ti'n tu

Oga calm down.

I never said there is no corruption in EPL. What I asked you that day is why there are three convicted or indicted criminals inside the Bayern Boardroom?

Even this kasala wey burst for EPL, na one-one criminal dey each organisation. One at England, One at QPR. Yet Only odindin Bayern carry 3?!

I doubt even a died in the wool thief like Chief Tewonde George has 3 thieves in his inner circle...

donjazet:
Nateevs listen, there is a big difference between investigative journalism and entrapment. It is something if big sam was doing something ILLEGAL but it is different when some journalists say common let's go and test him or set him up and see if he would fall. Its ludicrous!!! Its just like the serpent giving eve the apple.
What sam did was basically of human nature, man is greedy, man ultimately works towards money and how many pple will not actually CONSIDER it??

My point is sam was ethically wrong in saying things he did but he should not be OVER criticized for considering it. It would be hypocritical to do so as not many pple would act differently. And I am not alone in thinking so as this picture below depicts.

I understand what you're saying,but the only way they were going to expose these kind of shenanigans is to setup a sting.

Afterall, nobody other than the dodgy parties sit in the room when the deals are going down.

That is how the Telegraph are able to argue that their sting was organized in public interest.

It really does go to show that while some people are quite happy to wallow in ignorance, some other 'mad people' are actually out there carrying out the 'fbi investigation' of football deals...

nateevs:
I got that.

On the topic. Unbelievable. Can you imagine a worse case of conflict of interest? I mean, it suggests that potentially, the dude might be prepared to sign a shiiit player, if the returns are more than securing a better player.

That's messed up.

Its insane.
This one that Jose was showing sympathy for Allardyce...I'm getting even more suspicious about how Falcao landed at the club mehn....

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, the Queens Park Rangers manager, negotiated a fee of £55,000 to act as an ambassador for a sports company that proposed selling players to his club, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

The former Chelsea striker agreed to fly to Singapore to speak to investors in a Far Eastern firm that was seeking to be involved in the transfer of players.

He told undercover reporters posing as representatives of the firm: “Look, just try to make me happy… come up with a nice figure.”

It comes after the Telegraph disclosed that the England manager Sam Allardyce negotiated a £400,000 per year deal to represent the same company, which in reality was a fictitious firm whose representatives were undercover reporters.

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink during a meeting with Telegraph undercover reporters in London earlier this month
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink during a meeting with Telegraph undercover reporters in London earlier this month CREDIT: TELEGRAPH
Hasselbaink, 44, held two meetings with an undercover reporter at which he discussed meeting investors in the company and potentially signing players they represented.

He was told the Far East firm wanted to become involved in the transfer of players. But the Championship manager saw that as no barrier to working with the firm, and was open to the idea of signing players they represented, despite the apparent conflict of interest with his job at QPR.

He would potentially have been spending his club’s money on players represented by a company that was paying him.

During a low-key meeting with an undercover reporter and the soccer agent Scott McGarvey at a branch of Pret a Manger in west London, on August 25, Hasselbaink discussed terms as he sipped a cup of green tea.

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, pictured when he was named the new QPR manager in December 2015
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, pictured when he was named the new QPR manager in December 2015 CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES
McGarvey told him: “I can go anywhere I want, travel the world and sign some good young players… I want to bring you a player, it’s got to be right, everything’s gonna be done properly and it’s got to be looked after properly, and you’ve got no headache.”

The agent said the undercover reporter representing the fictitious Far East firm was “going to be an integral part of this, with me”, adding: “I’ve got a list of players I’d like to talk to you about. You don’t want a centre forward do you?” Hasselbaink replied that he did need a centre forward, as well as players in other positions.

Then the conversation turned to the “business” of Hasselbaink flying to Singapore to deliver a talk to investors in the firm. The Dutchman said: “You said the word business. That’s all, it’s business, so it depends what you put down, you know… at the end of the day, it has to be worthwhile to go all [that] way…”

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink reacts during the Sky Bet Championship match between Huddersfield Town and QPR on September 17 CREDIT: REX/SHUTTERSTOCK
On Sept 7 he met the reporter and Mr McGarvey – who was not aware of the reporter’s true identity – at The Botanist bar in Sloane Square, west London. After a discussion about how many days he would need to be away from the UK on each trip to Singapore, he said: “It depends what the cheque says, you know? It just depends what has to be done, but if it’s an international week I can give them Sunday, Monday, Tuesday off.”

He was offered £35,000-£40,000 per trip and replied: “I think you have to do better than that… “Look, just try to make me happy. Cos you come up with a nice figure, you know. The 35 is… you know?” Asked if £50,000-£55,000 would be acceptable, he said: “You’re getting warmer. I think, for me to do a good job and also be comfortable, OK I’m going to be three days away, that kind of stuff and, you know international week is also the time when I do spend a lot of time with the family. “It also depends whether I can be paid in Holland?

“If I do work abroad I can receive money abroad, and if I do work here then I have to receive it here, and I have to pay tax here. If I do work abroad and receive it abroad, in my bank account in Holland, then if I bring it back here I have a way of only paying between 10 and 15 per cent [tax], instead of paying 45 [per cent]. Because it makes a big difference.”
cc Nateevs

Told it would not be a problem to pay him in the Netherlands, he said: “Well that makes it a little bit easier. Then 55 is not bad.”

The reporter said: “And obviously anything that you would be able to have a look at other aspects of our business favourably that would be appreciated.”

Hasselbaink, who had been told the fictitious firm had interests in construction and property as well as sport, replied: “I didn’t have the time yet but I’m going to Google you.” Mr McGarvey chipped in: “What we’re trying to do is build a relationship with you, going forward… we’ll give you a player as well.” Hasselbaink said: “Give me a ----ing player. A good player.”

Damn...you can't even trust these niggas anymore.

Asking for agents for payments to sign his players...

Ex-chelsea legend too.