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laudate:
Oh, because I omitted the word 'death' from the second comment, you are now jubilating? Trust you, to seize on inconsequential omissions. Ok, where is the answer to my previous question: The Sardauna, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Festus Okotie-Eboh[b] did not resist arrest,[/b] but were still shot by Igbo coup plotters. Why?? This is the 5th time this question has been thrown at you, and you have remained mute. When are you going to provide an answer?

This gets more childish with each reply you type. Stop scurrying around and dribbling yourself, you are smarter than this! Let me spell your 50 kobo sense out for you -

You typed some unbelievable jagbajantis in your post -

1. That Fani-Kayode escaped while Nwobosi's men were trying to get Akintola in Ibadan

2. That the same Fani-Kayode who "escaped" in Ibadan was freed in Officer Mess, Ikoyi, Lagos

3. That Ironsi cannot be given credit for the release of Fani-Kayode by the troops that he (Ironsi) commanded because he didnt do it personally Chai!!

Its as if you are playing dumb to save face and it wont work. Stand by your words like a man and stop looking for silly, shallow holes to hide...

laudate:
Was it Ironsi that personally took him out of the grip of his captors who abducted him, did Ironsi take him to the barracks?

This is shameful. Jokes apart.

The accurate half of your confused post states that Fani Power was FREED AT THE MESS. Why are you still asking k-legged questions? Ironsi's troops were AT the mess when Nwobosi's group arrived. IRONSI'S men arrested them and freed Fani-Kayode

laudate:
I said Fani-Kayode escaped death. And anyone reading through all the accounts connected with his escape, would realise that he escaped death through the hand of Providence, not because an onye Igbo rescued him. Was it Ironsi that personally took him out of the grip of his captors who abducted him, did Ironsi take him to the barracks? As for the other questions I asked, you have dodged it several times on this thread by latching on to irrelevant stories.

Watching you dribble yourself, split hairs and score own goals is sad to watch

laudate:
It has been published that Fani-Kayode was abducted by Nwobosi's men, and driven to Akintola's house. He escaped death from there, while gun fire was being exchanged by both parties. So how was he rescued or recaptured? In what way did Ademoyega do justice to my questions, please?.

laudate:
Oh, that is the new angle you want to start from? Murtala Mohammed came from....where? Dimka, Bisalla & co, who killed him hailed from ....where? A lot of Southerners saw it as a Northern coup, carried out by Northern minorities against core Northern chaps. Apart from that, the coup plotters and coup victims were all military men (i.e. military boys vs. military generals). And people tagged it as such, or how else would people have described it? It was quite different from the January 1966 coup, where military boys summarily executed elected civilian political leaders of other ethnic groups, who were unarmed except for one person.

Now, stop digressing. If the 1976 coup bothers you so much, start another thread for it, and we can open up discussions there. Do not derail this thread, biko.

All this twisting of grammar is pointless. Were the plotters of the 1976 coup mainly of Angas/Plateau stock? Simple yes or no. If yes why did you and yours not label it as "Plateau coup"?

After all despite concrete statements in Ademoyega's 35 year old, unchallenged,authoritative book to the contrary, you and people like you are still contorting yourselves into odd shapes to insist that the 1966 coup was an "Igbo coup".

The main plank of this thread is an article which alleges that Igbos as a group somehow deserve blame for Nzeogwu and co. So relax, we will examine every angle to this discussion.

Ngozi123:
Because it did not fit their agenda. It's not just that poster who's guilty of this; you rarely hear any Nigerians refer to that coup as the Plateau coup. They tried so hard to paint the first military coup as an Igbo coup because they needed an excuse to 'cut the Igbo to size'. Essentially, that coup and, by extension, the war, gave Nigerians a reason to 'blame' the Igbos for their misfortune as a nation. This enabled them to marginalise the Igbo with the support of the majority and if the Igbos complained, they would just claim that the "Igbos are trying to dominate again". It's a very worrying trend- the Nazis used the same tactics against the Jews.

Unfortunately for them we have decoded their tactics. The lies and half truths shall never go unchallenged again.

laudate:
One fact that can never be rewritten, is that during that coup the only soldiers that fired the shots that killed political leaders from other ethnic groups, were Igbo. Fact!

In line with your logic, the officers that overthrew and shot Murtala and others in 1976 were predominantly from Plateau State so why was the 1976 coup not branded a Plateau/Angas Coup? You dont harbour hatred for them so automatically the ethnic angle should not stand abi? Abeg park well you cannot bring case and judge yourself winner in your own case Thats for kids...

laudate:
It has been published that Fani-Kayode was abducted by Nwobosi's men, and driven to Akintola's house. He escaped death from there, while gun fire was being exchanged by both parties. So how was he rescued or recaptured? In what way did Ademoyega do justice to my questions, please? You are the one who made an assertion, so the onus is on you to prove it. Guy, is it that you did not understand my question, or you are deliberately playing the ostrich? That page from Ademoyega's book did not contain the actual blow-by-blow details of how Fani-Kayode escaped death, and your claim that 'he was rescued by soldiers controlled by an Igbo man?' So can you please provide the url link or source showing the exact details of how Fani-Kayode escaped death on the night of the coup, and the name of the Igbo man who rescued him with soldiers? Still waiting!

Here is an excerpt from another article, on what eventually happened to the late Chief Fani-Kayode:



I do not even want to talk about Chief Festus Okotie-Eboh the late Finance Minister who did NOT resist arrest but was also killed by the coup plotters.

You just shot your argument in the foot.On one hand you say Fani-Kayode escaped from his captors while Akintola was being shot at, on the other hand you quote Akinjide's account which states that Fani-Kayode was taken from Ibadan to Federal Guards Mess, Ikoyi, Lagos! There he was released by "Loyal Troops". Who was in charge of the loyal troops in Lagos that morning?

Was it not General Ironsi, a confirmed Onye Igbo?
Stop weaving stories you cant defend

You have easily confirmed what Ademoyega said in his book and on the page I uploaded. Like I said you are welcome to your prejudice but your narratives are dropping dead faster than flies in a baygon factory. Just accept you are driven by hate not facts stop stressing yourself

blues2022:
His likes exposes the true intent of the average felas from that region. Go to any public forum, or comment section of major news outlet and see his likes and cohorts attacking anything Igbo or Biafra. I wonder how these guys exist with such kind of hate. Why are they against Biafra? No valid answer. Why do they hate Igbos so much, and yet speak against their desire for freedom, yet no valid answer. These guys, are simply Wicked.

Abeg ignore that empty vessel. I engage with his type because they present an opportunity to demolish their lies and myths about igbos that they have never been able to back up.

Their major pain these days is that Igbos dont just sit back and allow their satanic lies to trend anymore. We see them we wreck them like we did to their claims on this thread

Eledan:
I'm done with you long ago
Go and provide the link or url of the lies you told laudate
Stop deflecting

Eleran! Still no facts or logic to share.Your only contribution to this debate is weak trolling and lame jokes.

I told you before, get the f#$k out of here with your shallow knowledge and titanic stupidity.

laudate:
That is why I said the final outcome or what happened in reality, was totally different from what Ademoyega spoke about in his book. What the coup plotters agreed upon, did not play out in real life. And we can only take stock of what transpired during the actual event. Not draw conclusions based on presumptions or assumptions.

I repeat Sardauna himself was NOT armed and did not resist arrest, so why did they still go ahead to kill him? They also not only shot the Sardauna, but also his wife (whose name was Habsetu) and his traditional bodyguard (whose name was Zarumi) and who had fought back with a sword. Abubakar Tafawa Balewa was NOT armed, and did not resist arrest, yet they still abducted and shot him.

Fani-Kayode's account of his escape, is quite different from what you have stated here. You claim 'he was rescued by soldiers controlled by an Igbo man?' Please provide the details along with the relevant url links or sources, so we can all read it and verify!

Na wa o. I uploaded page 115 of Ademoyega's book and instead of confirming you are asking for links?

Ademoyega totally does justice to your questions but you want links from NL and Gamji? Haba come up with a counter thats based on facts bro. Simply denying reality can't cut it in a discussion of this level.

Eledan:
That is the greed that Nigerians have been talking about, you were not satisfied with your boy-boy and slavish status under NPC, you wanted it all as ingrained in your DNA.
You are done for in Nigeria as those idiots only succeded in setting you and your region back as long as Nigeria exists. Nigerians will ensure you pay 100 years for every leaders those drunken fools terminated their innocent lives

Chai Eleran Na N20 menthol cigarettes and one sachet of mogbo-moya bitters inspire this shallow and daft post Besides displaying grave stupidity and spitting anti-igbo venom like a snake you have proved nothing on this thread or shared any useful facts or logic.

Love it or kill yourself we are back on top. The SE is the most peaceful region in this country with generally lower poverty rates and good quality of life. You are celebrating what you think is our setback while your poverty stricken kinsmen call themselves Omo onile, pick up sticks and rusty knives and risk their lives chasing after igbo importers hoping to extort coins from Igbo importers who bring in containers through your Lagos ports controlled by northerners. You are a pathetic joke

laudate:
Guy, Sardauna's security was only performing his job, and the coup plotters ended up killing him for that, so why did they still go ahead to kill Sardauna who was unarmed and with his wives? SLA Akintola engaged the coup plotters in a gun duel, and so he lost his life. But Fani-Kayode was not released or spared by the coup plotters, he escaped from them while they were opening gun fire on Akintola, and no one was paying attention to him. Read his account, it is widely circulated on the internet.

Abubakar Tafawa Balewa the late Prime Minister did not resist arrest, so why was he killed?

Oga. Your facts do not tally. Yes Sardauna's guards were doing their job but at least you can agree that the coup plotters agreed they would do it. It was NOT something few Igbo soldiers agreed to on their own.

Akintola opened fire and was killed by returned fire. Fani Power was abducted and largely unharmed because he did not resist and was eventually rescued by the soldiers controlled by an Igbo man!!

Eledan:
Igbo greed led Nigeria into the unitary govt that the Northerners have tasted and don't want to let go!
Your Igbo coup plotters and Ironsi set Nigeria back for 100 years, and you will suffer for it by way of neglect of your homelands

No facts or sense at all in your head. You cant even boast of a decent point or fact on this thread but you recite junk you cant back up.

Igbo greed? Mumu why would we spoil our own party? We were in a coalition government with the north (NPC), most of the officer cadre in the army were igbo officers, our region was stable/peaceful (unlike Western Region) and had the fastest growing economy in Nigeria.

Dont be silly Eleran provide facts on your "igbo coup" or get the f#&k out of here

laudate:
Guy, what prejudice are you talking about? There is a massive difference between what Ademoyega said, and what actually took place in reality, when the coup was eventually carried out. Ademoyega said that the Prime Minister and the Premiers from the 4 regions were to be arrested, but only killed if they resisted or used force. Did that happen? No! These men (with the exception of the Premier of the Eastern region who escaped,) were summarily executed! And this was done by the coup plotters of Igbo extraction. To deny this, is to attempt to rewrite history.

Sardauna's security resisted and Aare Ona Kakanfo opened submachine gun fire on the plotters. Fani Kayode didnt resist and was spared. True or false?

What happened in the case of Okpara?

Eledan:
Cowards you all are!!
The Northerners make no pretense about how they see the war judging by their response in July 1966 and don't hide it, only Ibos want us to think that the Jan coup has nothing to do with Igbos when the facts is clearly otherwise.
Go and convince Brig Maimalari, FFK father, Sardauna, Bello, Ademulegun and numerous people that your drunken ibo idiots brothers and murdered in cold blood

Plenty of foam in your mouth and plenty of hate in your heart but no facts or sense in your head. The so called "Igbo coup" fantasy you liars and revisionists conjured is over.Your bigotry is pointless here...

The northern response you are wanking over so happily means that northerners control all the seaports in the SW and even SS (Onne). Classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face

laudate:
Alright, the coup was not a tribal matter. But out of all the coup plotters from different tribes, who staged the coup, it was only the Igbo coup plotters who fired the shots that snuffed life out of the political leaders who hailed from other ethnic groups, while their own political leaders were allowed to escape. Are you happy now??

Ademoyega sheds light on this. Could you shed some light on how Igbo political leaders were allowed to "escape". Where are your facts?

laudate:
Alright, the coup was not a tribal matter. But out of all the coup plotters from different tribes, who staged the coup, it was only the Igbo coup plotters who fired the shots that snuffed life out of the political leaders who hailed from other ethnic groups, while their own political leaders were allowed to escape. Are you happy now??

I can understand your prejudice but read carefully what Ademoyega had to say about who the plotters agreed they would use lethal force on.

Eledan:
Still doesn't take away the fact that you are stubbornly ignorant.
It's bad enough to be ignorant of issues, arrogantly displaying such ignorance like you are doing here is utter foolishness

Ultimate foolishness is your middle name if you think you can chill in your favourite akara and ogi joint with your 20MB data plan and convince anybody that you know more than these men;

Adewale Ademoyega, G. Adeleke, Fola Oyewole, Lt. R. Egbiko, Lt. Tijani Katsina, O. Olafemiyan, Gibson Jalo, Swanton, Hope Harris Eghagha, Lt. Dag Warribor, 2nd Lt. Saleh Dambo, John Atom Kpera

Abeg give me your igbo dealer number

Eledan:
Shut up !

July 66 resolved it all

Nope. Ademoyega's account of events resolved it and put revisionists like you to shame. Bigotry and your lack of enlightenment changes nothing

Eledan:
Adegboyega Adewale was acting as Nigerian while Ibos were acting as Biarans in the Jan coup.
You got what you deserved afterwards

Adewale Ademoyega and all the other non-igbo officers who took part in the coup have not claimed Igbo conspiracy up till this till today. No intellectual has debunked his account in his book. Its you a faceless internet apparition begging for links on NL that will speak for Ademoyega

Ok I don gree...

Eledan:
Still doesn't take away the fact that you are stubbornly ignorant.
It's bad enough to be ignorant of issues, arrogantly displaying such ignorance like you are doing here is utter foolishness

Okay I agree you are more of an authority on the 1966 coup than Adewale Ademoyega

vanbonattel:
The beating is too much on him, confusion has set in on his afonja brain

The boy has very little upstairs. I dey sorry for am to be honest

Eledan:
After spending the last 5 hours scouring the internet, this is the best rubbish you can come up with?
Adegboyega said they intended to make it a bloodless coup ( obviously your ibo brother sold him a lie) but ended up killing everyone on sight that is not ibo

No offence bro, you are dense

That is not a link mumu that is a picture of a real life book from my shelf. Chai

vanbonattel:
He must be a beneficiary of Awolowo free and useless education which deformed the south west

The free education no favour am obviously.Asking if oil is in Igboland...

Eledan:
nku5 I'm still expecting your lying links as you've been viewing the thread and keeping mute

I have been enjoying your tomfoolery with a glass of whisky

Eledan:
It's clear you have nothing to offer as usual of your people.
If you are so sure of your bloody lies, bring the link and stop getting crappy with each passing comment
We have seen clear links from laudate, but you people have been full of nothingness

Olodo! Upon all the free education you no sabi book

See what a real yoruba wrote. Page 83 of "Why we struck" by Adewale Ademoyega

Eledan:
Can you please keep quiet! You don't throw wild conjecture around here, learn from laudate that provided all links to the facts stated.
Give us the damn link and stop drinking emotions

Not conjecture just raw painful facts. Its not my fault you only read whats posted on social media. Read books and learn!

A 10 year old boy who reads widely will always be more learned than a 50 year old who does not

Eledan:
Liar! Bring the link to you lies and let me expose you

I hope I am not talking to a 13 year old

Please go and read some books before you engage ppl online so you dont embarass yourself. Start with "Why we struck" by Adewale Ademoyega.

Sanusi says $1BN a month was stolen. How much was our budget
How much money was Nigeria making sef even if it was possible

baralatie:
you wont believe some guy bought the story hook,line and sinker

I am not surprised. Its not easy to withstand the heavy propaganda that they keep churning out

Eledan:
It's an ibo coup! You can believe otherwise from now till you are no more, it doesn't obliterate the fact that ibo officers killed leading political and military elites of other regions while sparing their own and eventually the beneficiaries of the coup were ibos.
You guys set Nigeria back by 200 years with that night of madness by your drunken brothers

Sorry to burst your bubble but I cant on account of your NL post, discard the written account by Major Adewale Ademoyega, one of the masterminds of the coup who said it was by no means a tribal matter.

It was a patrotic act by young idealistic officers. Revisionists like you turned it to a tribal matter and are the ones responsible for starting the war, setting Nigeria backwards and to a large extent are responsible for the likely coming division of this country

Same Sanusi that as CBN governor claimed $49BN was missing then said it was $20BN was missing. Sotay Jonathan wey no get liver sacked his incompetent arse

Now he is claiming that trillions were stolen per second and some mugus will still fall for it

Why all these distractions? What type of wicked party is this APC?