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@gators

kini ose e tio o wa sope osanra. Iwo ko de sanra rara o,

Lady temi:
[b]Urine is actually clean and sterile [/b]and its been suggested if one was ever stuck on a deserted island your safer drinking your urine than drinking salty sea water. Personally I would not drink urine but I have heard of people who drink their urine.

Oxymoron of the year, how can something rejected and expelled by your body be clean and sterile, Abeg tell me something else biko

@gators u do not look fat now, infact u seem to have a normal size and weight for a black woman, so y do u claim you are getting fat, is that not a sign of having body image issues.

if i tell u i am going to have to kill you

kini nkan ti gbogbo yin tie so naa

tie eden soro bi eni ti on pate

@topic

Finally the northern agenda is starting to become exposed . . . gradually

I read somewhere that Vanguard had reported exactly this kind of scenario in March, seems like a northern islamic take over of the country .

morpheus24:
Which African tribes trace their origins outside Africa? Are you speaking of Berber North Africans?
I said the origins or specific point of the the first man or his group are still ambigious. The origins of the first set of Africans hypothesized to have populated the world originated mostl ikely from east africa if you agree with the OUt of Africa theory.

When you say these tribes trace their origins outside Africa are you spekaing or Y chromosone DNA(unchanged) or Mtna DNA derived from females.

if its Mtna then i will agree many east and north Africans have a high concentration of Mtna from neighbouring West Asia/middle east. other Africns have a high concentration of the L haplogroup which is only found in Africa alone.

1. I am not suprised by that cause most of North Africa was invaded by muslims and history tells us that part of what is done by asian muslims is that they rape or end up intermixing with the local population .e.g places like sudan, egypt and so on.

2. the high concentration of Mtna can partly easily be explained by point number 1 above and the domination by Arabs and middle easterners

3. It is the same scenarion that Black men and women in America are to be expected to have a higher percentage of genetype that is not common to blacks in africa, simply because of the isolation of 400 years and also because of the racial intermixing with other racial types going on in America but which does not occur too much in africa.

That exactly is the reason why gene testing cannot be done in isolation, but rather in conjunction with historical records for proper interpretation.

@horus

click on the multiple post and delete them and replace the multiple posts with just ".".

Its disconcerting seeing multiple posts.

Since u claim not to be spamming the thread then it makes sense for you to modify the posts and delete the multiple posts using the easily available modify button.

thank you.

@topic

NO Allah is not the same as the Creator of the Bible for the following reasons.


Allah has 3 daugthers, the Creator of the Bible has no daugthers.

Allah rewards muslims with sex and wine in their own paradise, but the Creator of the bible would not give anyone wine nor sex in heaven.

Allah keeps abrogating wat he said earlier meaning that his words can change at anytime. The Creator of the bible does not change His words.

Allah was worshipped by mohammed's father hence the name Abdallah, which means allah had existed before mohammed and since mohammedd's father was a pagan, then it means allah was a pagan god.

Mohammed always got his so called prophecies in secret and alone with no witnesses.

Mohammed's alllah always gives him convenient prophecies that only serve purposes that support mohammed and never one that opposes him, thus showing that Allah was at the beck and call and command of mohammed.

Khadijah came from a monotheistic background, hence mohammed got some of his information from her.

Mohammed's inlaw via Khadijah was actually a Christian, hence the sources of Mohammeds information and plagiarism was not a suprise.

Mohammed plagiarised, used and messed up Isrealite history and biblical accounts so much so that it does not make sense and neither does it match up to historical records.

Mohammed is a sex maniac.

Mohammed is a peadophile.

Mohammed is an unforgiven person.

Mohammed was possessed by demons and afraid of the demons, while bible prophets have no fear of demons nor were they possessed.

Mohammed lied that he went to Jerusalem to a mosque that did not even exist, even though he was with a woman all nigth.

Mohammed eyed Aisha wen she was 6 yrs, had sex with her wen she was 9 and died wen she was 18yrs.

Mohammed died from being poisoned by someone trying to test him whether or not he was a prophet or not.

Mohammmed the jews and christian arabs that lived during his day and who had refused to believe anything that he said.

Mohammed was an illiterate who cannot read, yet he claimed to have knowledge of a book containing those predestined to hell and those predestined to heaven.

Mohammed believes in predestination, yet could not answer the simple questions to why it is necessary for people to be muslims since he claims they have already being predestined.

Muslims kiss a stone, just like Catholics kiss the statue of mary, hence in terms of idolatory, they are both idol worshippers.

Abraham never went to nor build any building in Arabia, yet the muslims falsely claim that he had built the Kabba, despite that the Kabba was originally a place where pagan Arabians kept their different gods, of which allah the moon god was one of them.

The Messiah of the Bible prophecised that Jerusalem would be destroyed and it was destroyed by the Romans.

Mohammed being a false prophet said he went to a temple in jerusalem even though there was no temple in jerusalem as already prophesied by the Messiah of the Bible.

Mohammed never made a single prediction or prophecy that ever came true, hence he does not even deserve the till of a prophet, hence instead he deserves the title of a false prophet.

tubabie:
Is that an excuse not to put your pic up, anyway there are some masculine ones.

there are too many stalkers on nairaland only a select few actually know my name.

Only a very secret few actually know what i look like

its too cheasy for man to do

@ladyT
is it not better to see a black skin and scalp and opon   rather than the so called white head.

@tubabie

how the heck do u insert urself into those graphics environment, are u into IT related issues or something or is it just some template something something.

LadyT:

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@topic

Cus they are emotional deficient and naturally selfish,

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=314960.msg4435691#msg4435691 date=1251402868]@Aloy-Emeka,
Very convenient.  And yet you asked that I call for the head of privates Cheney and co!  Are you their God?[/quote]

JeSoul:
How come you don't say that when it comes to George Bush? 

maybe because he has a catapult that he can use,

@lady T abeg change u profile picture i am vesssing right now and i do not want to see any white woman

A similar case happen to another naija friend from of mine he had sex wit da babe and da bitch said he raped her. Dude was in jail for months before the bitch finally told the truth, that he gave her a ride, had sex with her, and didn't drop her off at her destination. so she lied and said he raped her

is it really true that AA girls do such a thing,

can't u ask them to allow u destroy the freaking passport in their presence or something, i personally treat anything nigerian with a long pole.

Infact i tend to keep to myself over here, cus i have noticed some nigerians doing things that are are close to being illegal and i do not want to be a part of it wen the whistle blows.

standard liege we fit use slvestre as striker sef

Marlbron:
There were slaves in the jesus era and they were blacks. There was also a thriving kingdom in Ethipia, did not mean tht they were the centre of the World. The New York of those days was Jerusalem, the epicenter of the world then, the melting pot of all nationalities.


There is no extra body except your own imagination. If Jesus ministered and preached for 3 1/2 years with his disciples, then on resurrection, if he is exactly the same, they will recognize him.  That they failed to recognize him confirms the fact that his nature was changed. Mary seeing him as a gardener could only mean that he looked like a gardener and most hired help in those days were dark skinned. Jesus resurrected not as a white man, but as a coloured man. Tht would explain hy other disciples could neither recognize or believe him.

On another note, the early man is black, from scientific evidence. If the early man is black, then God's image and likeness is also black (he made us in his image). All descriptions of God (Dan 7:9 and Rev 1:15) describes someone of Negroid origin.

The earliest potrait of Jesus known to the Romans was that of a black man.  The Romans knew this  because  the inprint of his face found on a  cloth after resurrection was that of a black person.

Sorry that i am breaking my rule and silence, after this i would speak no more and thus keep to my silence on this topic.

The Romans knew this

Yes the romans knew the isrealites were black, even one of them mistook Paul for an Egyptian.

because  the inprint of his face found on a  cloth after resurrection was that of a black person.

Please do not beleive the so called Shroud of Turin. Most scientific evidences points that it is a fraud. It has no basis even in the bible. So please be careful about any so called dogmatic evidence about history. its dangerous.

morpheus24:
Ancient egyptians were African and therefore it is correct to say their adaptations would include dark skin as much of Africa is.
Please note that the definition of "black" depends on who is using it and in what context.

The definition of causcasian is ambigious in nature and therefore should not be used in conjucture with color of skin.

The egyptians have been depicted as such in both written documentation as well as wall paintings.

The constant pull back and forth by eurocentrists and Afro centrist about what morphology and skin tone the egyptians were is a distraction to their true identity.

What can be said is that it is very obvious that an Average ancient egyptian did not look like Nordic europeans and therefore can not be categorized as such neither did they look like and average Yoruba man. Their closet relatives should be the ancient ethiopians and northern beber tribes.

Africa is exteremly diverse phenotypically as well as genotypical so to say light or dark is putting them in simplistic contexts.

Thank you

- I would not be suprised that some people would not also realise that Berbers were primarily an originally black skin african people before their mixture with Asians and Europeans that now gives them features ranging from European white to African Black.

- Yes u are correct about the Ethiopian correlation with Egyptians. I am not suprised about this since the Egyptians themselves said they came from the South (i.e. around the area of Nubia and Ethiopia)

Banderas:
Really? In other words, the world is divided into black and white. Where then do the asians stand?

That is a load of bollocks. White people may have tried at some stage to justify their actions during the slave trade, but to say that there's an outright plot against black people is just a bit too far fetched.

Ham Shem and Japhet didn't split into ethnic groups, even if we were to follow the bible as a guideline (which I personally am not sure it should be), this would assume that the brothers' children didn't marry each other  (cousins), and only married within their nuclear families (siblings). Possible, but why ever should they? They all lived together until the tower of babel.

It was AFTER the tower of babel that the dispersions happened. NO LINK. No Connection.

Africa is somewhat behind because of the desertification of the Sahara which isolated most of black africa from the events of the rest of the world. When the romans invaded britain, they were shocked to find out the kind of barbarism that still existed in europe, and that is an island separated from mainland europe by a narrow strip of water.

And where did the bible say that the israelites where like Ethiopeans? Where did this creator say this? What was the context??

I personally believe that a lot of the differences that count as race are recent occurences in the history of mankind - we all used to look the same, but changed due to socio-environmental influences.

Not everything western is a lie.

No2Atheism:
Be rest assured, there is a silent mental war going on, between all the races (the most blatant one is the one between Caucasians and Black people), it is a war which the Caucasians are presently winning considering that they control the books and the media, hence most black people have no idea of history till its sometimes too late to make any difference.

1. I am assuming your response is towards my post.
2. Go through my points line by line and kindly show me the erroneous statements.
3. Please notice notice my statement and consider the context of your response.
4. Notice that i said "between all the races", then i proceeded to use the one between Caucasians and Blacks as an example. I do not beleive i have told u only blacks and whites exists neither did i say anything about Asians, where u got that from is quiet suprising to say the least.

By the way, yes you are welcomed  .

And where did the bible say that the israelites where like Ethiopeans? Where did this creator say this? What was the context??

Question: And where did the bible say that the israelites where like Ethiopeans?
Answer: Old Testament

Question: Where did this creator say this? 
Answer: Amos 9:7

Question: What was the context??
Answer: Historical

RNKJV

Amos 9:5 And the Sovereign יהוה of hosts is he that toucheth the land, and it shall melt, and all that dwell therein shall mourn: and it shall rise up wholly like a flood; and shall be drowned, as by the flood of Egypt.

Amos 9:6 It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: יהוה is his name.

Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith יהוה. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? [/b]and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?

Amos 9:8 Behold, the eyes of the Sovereign יהוה are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith יהוה.

Amos 9:9 [b]For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

Amos 9:10 All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.




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The question one should ask himself is that:


- Do you believe in a Creator ?
               a. If the answer is Yes, then do you believe in the bible ?
                              b. If the answer is Yes, then do you believe the Creator can Lie ?
                                                c. If the answer is No, then how come its so difficult to believe the Creator when He Himself said Isrealites were like the Ethiopians.


- If you do not believe in a Creator, then you have nothing to worry about in terms of whether or not the Ancient Isrealites were white or black
(nevertheless to my suprise on nairaland, i have observed people who claim to be atheists on one hand, still continue to say, argue and defend that the Isrealites were white - something which i find rather ridiculous considering that who or what the isrealites are should be of no concern or bother to them)

- Otherwise if you do not believe in the bible then what i have said and quoted has no bearing on your world view hence u have nothing to worry about.



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Yes i am tempted to continue this discussion nevertheless i choose not to do so, because, i have discussed it at length on nairaland (people that are interested in it can chk my profile and go through my past posts) to the extent that i am tired of discussing it, people can choose to continue to believe dogma and those who choose to listen and study history and the bible can choose to do as they wish. I am not here to impose anything. It costs me nothing to be silent hence i would remain silent as at when i choose.



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Not everything western is a lie.

- Correct

Nevertheless most the important ones that had to deal with Blacks or Africans and African History are lies that are still being actively propagated even till today. I bet u fail to realise that there was a time Europeans claimed that anything of important civilisation had to do with Europeans : because they believed that Africans could possibly not have done it (just exactly the same way that you are currently sounding with your inference to barbarism and wat u have ). By the way this brings me to the question: please are u black or white or both or asian

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Africa is somewhat behind because of the desertification of the Sahara which isolated most of black africa from the events of the rest of the world. When the romans invaded britain, they were shocked to find out the kind of barbarism that still existed in europe, and that is an island separated from mainland europe by a narrow strip of water.

Sahara Wat the heck are u talkiing about, oh let me guess probably u are one the people that think Blacks dwelve in only the so called Sub Saharan Africa (Hence your inference to the sahara and barbarism) . . . please take time out to actually study the geographical make up of people and cultures in the ancient world. Then you yourself would realise just how unusual your statement sounds.

- Conjecture please provide reference

- Because Most Europeans descended from Barbarians that attacked the Romans does not mean other people were barbarians. STOP MAKING WISHFUL INFERENCES

- Do you even know about Black Moors civilisations thrived on the north west coast of Africa (around your so called Sahara region  )

- Egypt, Nubia, Ethiopia had advanced civilisations thousand of years before Romans and Greeks were yet to know their left from their right . . . so please i would appreciate you do not give me the hullabaloo about desertification nonsense.

- Your statements are quite unusual so i would advise you please take time out to actually study African History rather than use conjectures.


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@original topic

By the way, to those who are Atheists, please consider that:


-  the Greeks themselves said the Egyptians were black.
-  the Egyptians themselves said they were black.



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Like i said earlier, i would not be responding to this thread any longer, cus i personally hate repetition and i am really not interested in trying to indoctrinate anyone. I wold prefer people come to their own slow realization of what i have said.

Until then  have a nice day.

Kuns:
@janedoe

The fair-skinned, straight hair 'Ethiopians' have mixed in with the Hitties, Canaanites, Amorites etc and other people[b] against the word of God[/b]. Who forbidded marriage with the Canaanites (Caucasians or Asians). It's the greatest sin and it's in the bible, hidden within it's pages, but you are never shown this.

Please correct the highlighted point above:

Mizraim i.e. Egypt was a descendant of Ham.
Ethiopia was a descendant of Ham.
Canaan was also a descendant of Ham

Hence that is enough to let you know that its wrong to say that Canaanites are Caucasians or Asians.

Yes i also oppose Western Lies, but i would be glad if we get our statements historically and biblically accurate . . .


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@poster i.e. @janedoe (i hope u are actually new, and not just someone using multiple ids)

If u are new, then i am glad that your eyes have finally opened. Welcome, just take your time to read and study historical books (there are plenty of them), wen you study, you would realise that a lot of things that you were indoctrinated with, were not actually true.

One word of advise:

- THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DECEIVE PEOPLE AND CONTROL THEM AND THEIR MINDS, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY WORKING FOR THE EUROPEANS OR  SIMPLY CONTROLLING PEOPLE FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH PURPOSES.

- HENCE PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ BECAUSE THERE ARE LOT OF DISINFORMATION BOOKS OUT THERE WHO'S PURPOSE IS SOLELY TO MISLEAD BLACKS ALL OVER AGAIN . . . (e.g. how some European Jews were part of the civil rights movement not because they wanted civil rights for blacks, but simply because they needed to be able to control the civil rights movement from inside and also as informants against the civil rights itself)

- TAKE TIME TO PROPERLY QUESTION AND STUDY WAT YOU READ.

- DO NOT LEAVE ONE DOGMA FOR ANOTHER DOGMA.

- DO NOT BE AFRAID TO SPEAK THE TRUTH EVEN IF THE TRUTH WOULD HURT YOU OR YOUR FRIENDS IN TERMS OF BELIEVE.

- NEVER EVER FOLLOW THE CROWD OR TRY TO SPEAK SOMETHING U CANNOT BACK UP WITH A REFERENCE.

- ABOVE ALL, REALISE THAT U OWE YOURSELF A DUTY TO LEARN AND KNOW THE TRUTH, HENCE DO NOT BE AFRAID TO QUESTION YOUR OWN BELIEFS INSTEAD QUESTION YOURSELF AND TRY TO USE HISTORY BOOKS AND THE BIBLE TO FIND ANSWER.


Faith cometh by Hearing and Hearing by the Word of the Creator

The Word of the Creator is not a matter of dogma, it is simply wat it says it is. Sometimes your mind would be troubled by what you read, simply because what you read is completely different from what you are being told to believe.
For example: THE CREATOR HIMSELF SAID IN BIBLE THAT THE ANCIENT ISREALITES WERE LIKE THE ETHIOPIANS i.e. they were black  .  That realisation from the bible was a shock to my system wen i started to see and understand it. It was a shock to my system because: most people claiming to be jews nowadays are more or less white people. Hence we have the problem of either believing the bible wen the bible says the Ancient Isrealites were like the Ethiopians or we could choose to ignore the bible and believe current dogma that the present white people calling themselves jews are actually jews. Personally, i choose to believe the bible and have been ridiculed for it on nairaland, however i am not worried. This is simply because those who believe the isrealites were white are basing their belief on dogma, whereas i am basing my own on what is clearly written in the Bible that the Creator Himself said.

The question one should ask himself is that:


- Do you believe in a Creator ?
                              a. If the answer is Yes, then do you believe the Creator can Lie ?
                                                b. If the answer is No, then how come its so difficult to believe the Creator when He Himself said Isrealites were like the Ethiopians.


- If you do not believe in a Creator, then you have nothing to worry about in terms of whether or not the Ancient Isrealites were white or black (nevertheless to my suprise on nairaland, i have observed people who claim to be atheists on one hand, still continue to say, argue and defend that the Isrealites were white -  something which i find rather ridiculous considering that who or what the isrealites are should be of no concern or bother to them)


I am a student of history myself, and was likewise suprised at my discoveries wen i also started questioning the dogma. I was completely alarmed by the things i discovered by my study of history. I was also someone who was sceptical about people doing African Studies, now my own discoveries of history has made me an advocate of compulsory African Studies for every black man on the planet. Considering that most black people in the world have been completely brainwashed and we do not even know it (i was likewise like that until i started questioning the dogma and started actually trying to understand the bible within a spiritual, historical and socio-political context).

Be rest assured, there is a silent mental war going on, between all the races (the most blatant one is the one between Caucasians and Black people), it is a war which the Caucasians are presently winning considering that they control the books and the media, hence most black people have no idea of history till its sometimes too late to make any difference.

ONCE AGAIN WELCOME  , ITS GOOD TO SEE THAT YOU ARE GRADUALLY WAKING UP FROM THE MENTAL MATRIX.

McKren:
I am not being sentimental

I hoped and prayed Mikel turns out the great player he should have been. But he has not.
I am not particularly concerned about his ability as an attacking midfielder, its his attitude. He does not have the capacity to be forceful, lead from the midfield, and impose himself on a game. He can neither be an Oliseh or an Okocha. He will not even be humble enough to be a Garba Lawal.
Yes we want Mikel Obi to remain Mikel Obi but football is a team sport and when a player can not work hard for the team it makes their place untennable.

Zidane, Okocha, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Messi can get away with having any kind of attitude because they have the capacity to get into a match and redefine the match. Mikel does not have that capacity.

Right now and for now, I think the future of Nigerian football lies with Ogbuke Obasi. We can look up to him to be our play maker not in the mold of a midfield maestro but like a support attack play maker like Gerrard

He can hold forth while [b]Haruna Lukman or Rabiu Afolabi [/b]grows up

or grow old

JeSoul:
Banom yeye boy  you were testing me? lol I was trying to think back to when I may have stepped on your toes or something but couldn't recall any instance. Apology accepted, but if u try it again I will come and meet you in Abuja with koboko 

then @banom would have to turn the other yansh