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Reference: Are doctors on the same page with us on halting this onslaught or what. What is all this nonsense. Why couldn't they call the attention of the authorities immediately the symptoms showed. I think it is time to consider stripping any doctor of his or her practicing license for concealing and attempting to treat what should be termed an 'official matter'. Why is the Federal Government/Ministry of Health so slow at rolling out the 'rules of engagement'. The other patients in these clinics have a right to life and not a further threat to their well being. Any doctor who knowingly admits an ebola patient should simply do time if they survive. All ebola patients should be handed over to the Feds sharp, sharp. I'm livid.

specco: Sawyer is indeed a WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION unleashed on Nigerians. But lets come together and fight this hater.

No hiding of an Ebola carrier
No secret treatment of an Ebola carrier
No secret burial of Ebola victim
Report suspected Ebola patient to the appropriate Authority
Wash your hands regularly with soap under a running water

If we be vigilant and do the needful, we'll win this war.

jesuslovesme123: Absolutely agree. The cluless minister should be forced to resign already. We can't put up with mediocre ministers where matters of life and death are concerned.

sunny4life: Then report such pastors to the relevant authorities.I hav sent an sms to the Lagos state govt emergency numbers.....i hav done my part.This country is @ risk and instead of som pastors to encourage their members to maintain basic hygeine,there are contributing more to d problem by making unverifiable claims of healing.Those pastors should be arrested immediately.

sunny4life: And som pastors ar using this epidemic for selfish interest.....smh

donbenie: Saharareporters are the worst kind of junk journalists I have ever encountered,the GUTTER SNIPE kind,they are not done until they give any news they lay their hands on the worst possible twist..a doctor treated a patient and ends up infected by a yet to be determined illness as reported by every other news outlet,but no they must add their own twist by insinuating the said doctor secretly treated the patient..pray how does any SANE doctor secretly treats a suspected Ebola patient?

toseen29: Ridiculous! just as we were celebrating that's its been curtail in lagos then this news. A learned diplomat that should know better decided to infilterate his wickedness on an innocent doctor just like his counterpart Patrick. if these learned people can behave like this am afraid what the repercussion will be if the disease find its way to the rural populace. God save us all.

phreakabit: Was tested on Ebola effected rats and they survived, It has also been shown to be effective against other haemorrhagic diseases.

Joniboi: Patrick sawyer = Serial Killer

BankoleNco: [size=18pt]Why the heck haven't we reached out Japan for favipiravir I hear it has been scientifically proven to cure ebola even at an advanced stage. . . What d heck is the government doing?! Wahala dey oh![/size]

fajani: as a matter of fact.... doctor has to be safety conscious irrespective of the money bids, the doctor has to carry out a necessary test before proceeding in treating the diplomat and beside, he ought to be wise like a serpent, someone talking to me with that kind of manner already arouse my suspicious in the first place..... even people who are not medical practitioner know the symptoms of this EVD. HABA.

Bertha Felicitas Sophie Freifrau von Suttner (Baroness Bertha von Suttner, Gräfin (Countess) Kinsky von Wchinitz und Tettau; 9 June 1843 – 21 June 1914) was an Austrian novelist, pacifist, and the first woman to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize and the second person to be awarded the Nobel Prize in any category

Suttner became a leading figure in the peace movement with the publication of her novel, Die Waffen nieder! ("Lay Down Your Arms!" in 1889 and founded an Austrian pacifist organization in 1891. She gained international repute as editor of the international pacifist journal Die Waffen nieder!, named after her book, from 1892 to 1899. In 1911 she became a member of the advisory council of the Carnegie Peace Foundation.[4]

Her pacifism was influenced by the writings of Immanuel Kant, Henry Thomas Buckle, Herbert Spencer, Charles Darwin and Leo Tolstoy (Tolstoy praised Die Waffen nieder!). [5] Suttner was also a journalist, with one historian stating her work revealed her as "a most perceptive and adept political commentator, for a woman".[5]
Influence on Alfred Nobel

Though her personal contact with Alfred Nobel had been brief, she corresponded with him until his death in 1896, and it is believed that she was a major influence in his decision to include a peace prize among those prizes provided in his will, which she won in 1905.

Karl Landsteiner, ForMemRS[1] (June 14, 1868 – June 26, 1943), was an Austrian biologist and physician.[2] He is noted for having first distinguished the main blood groups in 1900, having developed the modern system of classification of blood groups from his identification of the presence of agglutinins in the blood, and having identified, with Alexander S. Wiener, the Rhesus factor, in 1937, thus enabling physicians to transfuse blood without endangering the patient′s life. With Constantin Levaditi and Erwin Popper, he discovered the polio virus, in 1909. In 1930 he received the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. He was awarded a Lasker Award in 1946 posthumously and is recognized as the father of transfusion medicine. He was a jewish who become catholic

DrummaBoy: This document is quite revealing. I wish Nora could paste its content here. It's a well researched work that proves its theses beyond every doubt.

This is the same John G Lake that has become the prototype healer for Ebola by Nigerian faith healers, including our own Nairaland Joagbaje; I wish them the best.

Elijah78: Thank you Nora544 for clarifying. I forgot that here in Naija when people hear the word "'fast'', they misconceive it to mean the kind of fasting going on in churches today!(i will not advice people to undergo that kind). Even me i did the intermittent fasting also and the results were amazing on my overall health including my weight loss goals.

A study in the British Medical Journal investigated spiritual healing, therapeutic touch and faith healing. In a hundred cases that were investigated, no single case revealed that the healer's intervention alone resulted in any improvement or cure of a measurable organic disability.[55]

A Cochrane review of intercessory prayer found "although some of the results of individual studies suggest a positive effect of intercessory prayer, the majority do not" the authors concluded, "We are not convinced that further trials of this intervention should be undertaken and would prefer to see any resources available for such a trial used to investigate other questions in health care."[56] A 2006 study found that intercessory prayer had no effect on complication-free recovery from heart surgery, but curiously the group certain of receiving intercessory prayer experienced higher rates of complications.[57]

A group at Johns Hopkins published a study in 2011 reporting no significant effects on pain, mood, health perceptions, illness intrusiveness, or self-efficacy, but a small improvement in reported energy in a double-blind study to test the efficacy of spiritual exercise in chronically ill adults

.. available scientific evidence does not support claims that faith healing can actually cure physical ailments... One review published in 1998 looked at 172 cases of deaths among children treated by faith healing instead of conventional methods. These researchers estimated that if conventional treatment had been given, the survival rate for most of these children would have been more than 90 percent, with the remainder of the children also having a good chance of survival. A more recent study found that more than 200 children had died of treatable illnesses in the United States over the past thirty years because their parents relied on spiritual healing rather than conventional medical treatment.

Elijah78: Sorry nora544, if i mention the word fasting, it does not mean spiritual praying. I am talking about a cure which people have experienced around me, and that is what was practiced when there were no ''doctors''. It didn't necessarily mean it most be 30 days dear. You have to know that human beings were program to stay without food for quite some time before their muscle can be destroy for energy. but for shorter periods the fats and strange growths/tumors are consumed for energy. Anyway excuse me for my suggestion.

I suggest the OP looks at these webpages:
We recently had a guest at our fasting clinic who was startled to find that on day 7 of her water-only fast, she could no longer feel a uterine fibroid in her lower abdomen that she had been carrying around for years.
http://drbenkim.com/articles-uterine-fibroids.html
http://www.naturalfibroids.com/water-fasting-prevent-and-shrink-uterine-fibroids/#.U_iHvlCw3mc
Water fasting forces the body to burn fat for energy, but you need to monitor this carefully and with supervision, because it is a difficult type of fasting. Many health specialists, alternative or not, state that the benefits by doing this are extraordinary.

BERNIMOORE: How are you frosbel! its been long that i visit NL, but when i was reading your opening post i just felt bad to the fact that most people affected by this greedy pastors having always justify the pastors/G.O ealier and when it is dawn on them that yes 'this is not what christ represent' they will just silently turn atheist, a close friend of mine who was very rich but without a child for 7rs was regularly milked by a redeem church pastor to d extent that all his business informations were monitored by the pastor, yet no solution to his child issue and appointments to see baba GO is always not posible as another pastor will be reffered, now my friend is now accomodating thought that seem like atheist! its sad though but i will copy your post and send to his mail, good write-up!

Image123: okay you're against a healing school? i don't get your John Lake quote, are you saying that he started healing schools?

After a year of itinerant preaching, Lake relocated to Spokane, WA by September 1914 and began ministering in "The Church of Truth". He started an organization called The Divine Healing Institute and opened what he called "Lake's Divine Healing Rooms". Lake ran the "healing rooms" from 1915 until May 1920, at which time he moved to Portland, Oregon, for a similar ministry that lasted for another five years. He continued to found churches and "healing rooms" down the California coast and eventually to Houston, TX in 1927, before finally returning to Spokane in 1931. Upon his return to Spokane he purchased an old church and began his final church and healing room

femicyrus: RCCG have 32,000 parishes i. e @least 32,000 pastors..
The type of politics among RCCG pastors may sink Nigeria 900 times over!
I am not happy posting this to the public because of those who derive Joy abusing the body of Christ at any given opportunity
God forbid if DADDY G.O is no more today, the true picture of pastors in the Church wil be seen in no time. The good ones ære just a minority!

Broad is the way that leads to distruction and many åre found on it.
RCCG is meant to be the house of Prayer but now have become den of
Mind You, the Church have saints too.
Judge not.

Image123: So after your test, Are you against fake healing schools or against healing school? They are two different things i think. Or it's simply the name it is called that bugs you?

John Graham Lake (March 18, 1870 – September 16, 1935), usually known as John G. Lake, was a Canadian–American leader in the Pentecostal movement that began in the early 20th century, and is known as a faith healer, missionary, and with Thomas Hezmalhalch, co-founder of the Apostolic Faith Mission of South Africa. Through his 1908–13 African missionary work, Lake played a decisive role in the spread of Pentecostalism in southern Africa, the most successful southern African religious movement of the 20th century.[1]:98[2]:34 After completing his missionary work in Africa, Lake evangelized for 20 years, primarily along the west coast of the United States setting up "healing rooms" and healing campaigns, and establishing churches. Lake was influenced by the healing ministry of John Alexander Dowie and the ministry of Charles Parham.

Lake was born in St. Mary's, Ontario, Canada and moved to Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan with his family in 1886.[4] He was born into a large family of 15 siblings (eight of whom died young).[5] He graduated from high school in St Mary's shortly before the move to Michigan, and claimed to have been ordained into the Methodist ministry at the age of twenty-one.[4] The seminary he claimed to have attended, though, never existed,[6]:53, and census records show he had less than ten years' education.[7] Lake, then, had no formal theological training.

Lake moved to a suburb of Chicago, Harvey, in 1890, where he worked as a roofer and construction worker before returning to his hometown in 1896. According to Lake, he became an industrious businessman and started two newspapers, the Harvey Citizen in Harvey, Illinois and the Soo Times in Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan,[4] before beginning a successful career in real estate, and later, becoming a millionaire in life insurance dealings. Historian Barry Morton found no evidence that Lake ever owned the two newspapers, citing sources which indicate the Harvey Citizen was founded by the Harvey township,[8] and the Soo Times was started by George A. Ferris and owned by Ferris & Scott Publishers.[1]:103[9]:394[10] Morton further alleges that Lake exaggerated his business career, and that "clear evidence" shows Lake instead worked as a small-scale contractor, roofer and "house-flipper".[1]:103. In the 1900 Census, Lake's occupation is listed as "carpenter".[11] In February 1893, Lake married Jennie Stevens of Newberry, Michigan, and the two had six children and adopted another before her death in 1908. During the 1890s Lake and many members of his family began appearing regularly in Dowie's services, where they were invariably healed and allegedly brought back from death's door. In 1898 Lake opened a small chapter of Dowie's Christian Catholic Church in Sault Ste Marie and held meetings in the attic of his parents' home. In 1901 he relocated his family to Zion, Illinois, where he worked in the theocratic town's construction department.

After massive retrenchments affected ever-bankrupt Zion City,[12] Lake found new employment around 1905. He later claimed that he maintained relationships with many of the leading figures of his day including railroad tycoon James Jerome Hill, Cecil Rhodes, Mahatma Gandhi, Arthur Conan Doyle, and others.[13][14] When he began his preaching career he claimed to have walked away from a $50,000 year salary (around $1.25 million in 2007 US dollars[15]), as well as his seat on the Chicago Board of Trade. Lake's biographer, Burpeau, reported no evidence outside of Lake's own assertions that Lake was connected to these wealthy financiers and industrialists.[6] According to Morton, contemporary records show Lake never left Zion City at the time Lake was said to be making his name in Chicago; he instead worked in nearby Waukegan as an "ordinary, small-town insurance salesman". Lake does not appear in contemporary newspapers until 1907 where he gave an account of his experience of speaking in tongues.[1]:105 In 1907 Lake was converted to Pentecostalism when Charles Parham staged a tent revival in Zion in an attempt to woo Dowie's supporters. After Parham's departure a group of several hundred "Parhamites" remained in Zion, led by Thomas Hezmalhalch—a recent arrival from the Azusa Street Revival. As 1907 wore on, Lake grew in stature among this group, and was usually listed as co-leader. After Parham's arrest for pedophilia in the summer of 1907, the Parhamites descended into a collective frenzy. Believing that many had been possessed by demons, a number of brutal exorcisms began, in which at least two deaths occurred.[16][17] In the face of arrests and potential mob violence, the Parhamites were forced to flee en masse from Illinois. Lake and Hezmalhalch left for Indianapolis. Once there, they raised $2000 to finance a Pentecostal mission to South Africa.
Missionary work in Africa

With Thomas Hezmalhalch, Lake founded the Apostolic Faith Mission of South Africa (AFM) in 1908 and carried on missionary work from 1908-13. Lake and Hezmalhalch would appear to be the first Pentecostal missionaries to South Africa, and introduced speaking in tongues. Many of those who joined their church had previously been Zionists allied to Dowie's organization who believed in faith healing. Morton writes [1]:98, "Lake was instrumental in spreading this fusion of Zionism/Pentecotalism that is unique to southern Africa... about half of southern African Christians today [2012] are adherents of it... Lake played a decisive role in the spreading of this 'second evangelization'." Lake's movement attracted many of the early Zionists led by Pieter L. Le Roux of Wakkerstroom[18]:15. Due to the segregationist impulses of the AFM's white membership,[19] the majority of its African members eventually seceded, forming many different Zionist Christian sects.[citation needed]

Just six months after Lake's arrival in South Africa, his first wife, Jennie, died on December 22, 1908.[3] Lake recorded that she died of a stroke. He continued his work in Africa for another four years, raising his seven children with the help of his sister Irene.[3]

Lake's ministry in South Africa was not without controversy. Morton writes[1]:114–15 that Lake was accused of: misappropriating the AFM's funds, particularly that funds did not flow to poor rural areas but were concentrated with Lake and his party; acting dictatorially; exaggerating the effectiveness of the revival movement he led; and staging miraculous healings through audience plants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Lake