₦airaland Forum

Walspring:
Is like you didnt understand my post and am disappointed in you for calling this charity after you read this between the lines as you advised me to read... This is called political donation and not charity donation. If i am not wrong, if you cross check with this woman community 90% there are suffering.(You can prove me wrong)

So political campaign is now charity organisation that an old woman like her age should be donating for abi

Can you tell me what is good in giving her life saving for campaign donation that will end next month

Cant she donate the money to motherless home or less privilege just like old age people in develop countries usually do

Maybe you are thinking i am sentimental because she donated it for Buhari, Even if it is President Jonathan i will still say the same thing.

Instead we should join hands together and condemn some barbaric things in my nation Nigeria like unreasonable donation like this but people like you admire it which is bad

Can you imagine what the 1 million will do for the people in her community or family who needs less than 50k

If my late grand parents are still alive and they did something like this during this kind of era, I wont waste my little money to attend their burial at all because donating that kind of money into politics is bad with their age when they can use the money to help people in their village

I am not insane that i will wasted 100k for campaign donation when people around me (family or friends or community) are suffering..

How do you think that developed countries like USA/UK/Canada etc get developed?

Do you think is their federal/state government that developed those country alone

Able citizens with excess riches assisted their government in developing it by donating some of their money to develop their community or contributed by building or doing things for the community without giving the money to their federal/state government, Even those who are about to die still will part of their money for their community so that people there can feel part of it..

Do you know that it is only in my nation Nigeria that the road that leads to the millionaires, Billionaires home town is not good and not even tiled at all and majority of children there dont have sound education.. ( tell me cant they help them with their little wealth)

If you want change, All these people (either pdp or apc, etc) cant give us change at all because the same money donated for them have sent some to untimely death and life time injury

If you not clear about my previous post, am sure with this you will understand where i am coming from and where i am going to because i have gone pass doing or partaking in politics

1000000000000000 likes you write it so clear but you forgot the other problem is the donation to this man made Gods to enrich themself.

In my country we have a big charity it is called "Light in the dark" and every celebrity and politican you will see that they donate money and this money is for children in need who need special treatment and for their parents.

I never hear or read in the newspaper that people donate to a political party.

Nigeria has a very very long way to go!

That is a meeting of great businessman who sell the gospel to enrich themself. All have their own empire.

This are no real christians because this are man mad Gods the idols from nigeria who put the country and christianity in a very bad light.

Pentecostal followers are whorshipping their Idols their own Gods and th3ey didnot follow Jesus christ.

I am happy that the people start to open their eyes to this businessman because prosperity gospel is the death of nigerian christians.

this with the internetz trafic is tru and it is not the first church who tell his folloers this lie.

What is with Pastor christ he is the same with his homepage!

I will show you yookos or what the name is.

Most of nigerian pentecost pastors lie, also a son in law from Adeboye lie about hat he is doing for work.

oneda:
POVERTY IS NOT A CURSE! JUST AN INCONVENIENCE…

I agonised over writing this reflection for several months. My agony was not from a lack of content, but from a foreboding that it could be widely misunderstood. For I am writing on a multi-faceted and emotive subject within the restriction of a few thousand words. But I can no longer forbear – it will be a worthwhile venture even if only a handful of people see the point I’m trying to make. Here goes:

All over the world, billions of people are consigned to the backwaters of our societies, unable to meet the basic necessities of a decent life – or even afford a decent, balanced meal. Billions of people. Some of them are hard-working, faithful believers in Jesus Christ. Would you look across this huge block of humanity and pronounce them cursed, simply on account of their financial condition? I suspect that your answer will be negative. Deprivation is an inconvenience. But it is not always a curse. Just in the same way that possession is not automatically a blessing. Jesus made this clear in Luke 12:15, when He said a man’s life does not consist in the abundance of what he possesses. There are other more important indices to measure the value of a man’s life. In this respect, it is a LIE to generalise and make this statement, “Poverty is a curse”.

Let me stretch this a little further, in looking at the second aspect of the issue. Some of the most blessed people on earth today are poor. And some of them will die in that state of poverty. These are the people that Jesus Christ has drawn out of their comfort zone to go into obscure and deprived regions of the world to help humanity to know The Way. Or to advance the interest of the Kingdom in frontiers that our generation of fortune-hunting, breakthrough-thirsty believers will not dare to approach – even when it is clear that the Lord may be pointing them in that direction. Who is more susceptible to the ‘curse’ tag; the one that answers the Master’s call and dies in penury, or the one that ducks the call and abounds in the comfy land of material prosperity? In this scenario also, poverty is not a curse.

And so, we ought to drop the generalised nonsense of using the phrase ‘Poverty is a curse’. The phrase was planted in the Church’s lexicon by the greedy multitude of the get-rich-quick preachers that are festering covetousness in the body of Christ. And the goal is simple: to make us FEAR poverty so much that we would avoid it at all costs. This FEAR will benefit them in two ways. First, it propels us to sow financial seeds into their ministries so that we can harvest and become rich (and dodge the poverty ‘curse’). Second, as we move forward in life, our tithes and numerous offerings from our earnings become a regular source of cash flow for the expansion of their kingdom (masqueraded as the expansion of God’s Kingdom). This is how these evil men profit from the FEAR OF POVERTY they have sown in our minds.

Now, let me tell you how the Kingdom suffers from this same FEAR OF POVERTY. First, it causes us, unintentionally, to look down upon the poor in our midst, and in our society. They are the misfits. They are the bad examples of what we do not want to become. Conversely, we look at the rich in the Church, and they are the image of the future we crave and pray for. Proverbs 14:20 captures this brilliantly: “The poor is hated even of his own neighbour: but the rich hath many friends.”

The second disadvantage of this fear is even much more insidious and devastating to a disciple of Jesus Christ. For, subconsciously, it programmes our minds this way: ‘if it is good and shiny, it is God’, ‘if it is hard and imposes hardship, it is the devil’. That is, if it involves suffering, it must be from the devil. That is why this crazy song is very popular in Pentecostal circles, “Me, I no go suffer.…” Yet the truth is that some of the most sublime callings (in terms of selflessness) that the Lord will give His disciples WILL involve suffering. Much suffering. The type of suffering that caused Him to leave His throne of glory to die a miserable death on a dusty road in Golgotha. It is along this unappealing path that He invites us to follow Him.

This is the way that Apostle Paul starts that popular passage in Philippians 2:5-9, “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus….”. But how many believers today have this type of mindset? We are quick to rejoice in, and proclaim the fact that Jesus has a name that is highly exalted above every other name. But how many of us truly want the type of mind that got him to that exalted position? How many are willing to leave their glorious mansions in the city to go to a deprived community in the middle of nowhere – NOT TO DIE FOR THEM, but just to preach the Gospel to them! And, probably live with them to face what they face, and eat what they eat. Is that the mindset of the believers that the corporation-churches today are breeding in their millions.

Yet, “LET THIS MIND BE IN YOU…” is not a request, it is a divine imperative that is at the very heart of Christianity. Tamper with this mindset, and you have removed the soul of Christianity. And that is what the devil has done, and continues to foster, with the fear-inducing mantra ‘Poverty is a curse!’

This will become a huge issue in the days ahead as the Lord begins to raise His end-time army. He will render some of them poor, not as a punishment, but as an inseparable part of their service package for the Kingdom. Ask the countless missionaries that left the affluence of the western world to die in the mosquito-infested backwater of African villages. That was how the Gospel reached us in the contemporary times. Ask also the direct Apostles of Christ who had to forsake all to follow Him (Matthew 19:29). Particularly, ask Apostle Paul who suffered the ‘loss of all things’ (Philippians 3: dear to him that he may ‘finish his course with joy’ (Acts 20:24).

If the rich young ruler had agreed to follow Jesus in Mark 10:17-22, the relationship would have undoubtedly impoverished him. But, like the ‘wise’ believers of today, he also probably believed that ‘poverty is a curse’, so he quickly backed away from Jesus. (Just as many of us have backed away from Him today in reality – though we are still in Church, warming the bench and keeping up a false image of being a disciple.) Also, it is difficult to imagine that following Jesus did not cost Zacchaeus his wealth. By the time he gave half of his property to the poor, and made the restitution of giving his victims four-fold of what he took from them, it is easy to imagine that there would be little left for a man that presumably made his wealth by swindling people (Luke 19:1-10). This is the blessing, and joy of poverty that many of us today may never know because of our fear-of-poverty mentality.

Furthermore, Jesus appeared to have been very comfortable with the poor, He didn’t tell them they were cursed. To the poor faithful believers in Revelation 2:9 , He said, “YOU ARE RICH!”. On the other hand, he described the wealthy, affluent church of Laodicea as ‘poor’ (Revelation 3:17). Jesus never condemned the poor, or encourage them to pursue material wealth, rather, He taught the rich in the church to take adequate care of the poor in their midst. They were not to look down on them, or ill-treat them (James 2:1-.

Please let me be clear. Jesus did not come to consign His disciples to a life of poverty. But neither did He come to declare a Dollar-splash as a reward for discipleship or godliness. Again and again, He cautioned against the danger of material wealth. He taught His hearers not to lay their treasures on earth, but to send it upward by giving (not to His ministry!), but to the poor. He taught that our material possessions have no bearing with the value of our lives. Apostle Paul was clear in warning that the pursuit of material wealth will lead many into perdition (1 Timothy 6:6-11). Today, most of our greedy, prosperity-focussed general overseers have turned all these truths upside down. Virtually everywhere you go, you will find believers that are thirsting to become overnight millionaires – purportedly as an evidence of the goodness of God.

God is able to make any believer wealthy, very wealthy. But that is if wealth is a required component of the calling of such a believer. Such people will not labour excessively to make money, for money will come to them by grace. Not all of us are called into this category. Generally speaking, Jesus did not promise his believers abundance of material wealth. What He promised, and confirmed through the mouth of Apostle Paul, is that He will meet our needs (Matthew 6:31-33, Philippians 4:19). He didn’t promise to satisfy our wants or insatiable appetite for the glitterati of the world. He has financially blessed some believers so that they can be a blessing to the rest of the body. But some of these channels have become very greedy; tossing a few crumbs to the table of the poor, and satisfying their own lust for material acquisition. No wonder Jesus said it will be difficult for the rich to make heaven! The day it becomes clear to us that the purpose of being granted wealth is to make us distributors of God’s goodness to His people (not just to consume it on our wants), that is the day that we will stop chasing wealth-at-all-costs. For many will thereby perish. I repeat this: material prosperity is not for every believer!

Are you hoping to be used by God in these last days? Please re-adjust your mindset. If your mind is set on the glitz and glamour of life or ministry, you may never hear the still, small voice calling you to be God’s agent to the thousands of children dying daily from neglect in the areas that the corporation-churches have abandoned. IT TAKES HAVING THE MIND OF CHRIST TO HEAR THE VOICE OF CHRIST. And that voice, at times, may choose to “carry you where you do not want to go” (John 21:18). The condition that Jesus set for discipleship is clear: “And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him DENY HIMSELF, and TAKE UP HIS CROSS daily, and FOLLOW ME. (Luke 9:23). It is not about what we want – it is all about what HE WANTS.

Are you called to be poor so that you can better serve God and humanity, please embrace the call. And wear your badge of poverty with gratitude and honour until God changes your condition (if He chooses to do so), or until He calls you home to glory. In this, Christ is truly glorified, and mankind is truly blessed. Please be a blessing – in prosperity or in poverty.

Thanks for reading, God bless.

I have to give you 100000000000000000000 likes because that what you write is what a real christian is.

Tank you and I know it will be hard to bring this to the so called christians in nigeria but I know the time is working for you.

@ op you are not more than a lasy pastor who take the money from his poor followers.

Why nigeria is in this mess, why there is so much corruption, look when it starts because all is money.

I wait to see a pentecost church in nigeria who have a program that youth can learn on a job, just see yesterday a documentation from nigeria and i hear what pentecost make to woman and take money that they will not more bewitched. Joan is a nigerian woman living now in my country so she knows what see speaks and she help the poor woman from her country who come to europa and where tld that they will work in a factory but this is not tru, they will work as prostitues in europa.

The net documentation was about don bosco a program for youth in Kambotscha and Sri lanka where they have schools for the poor that this people have a better future, to learn a job what is in nigeria most of the pentecost pastors take the tithe to enrich themself and build Schools for the rich and that is not christian.

OP you are also a lazy pastor not more, you are a scamer a fraudster not more.
Every pentecost pastor who speaks about tithing and when you don't get what you want than you are bewitched is a scamer and fraudster.

What is with Adeboye who told his followers 100 days of fasting will make nigeria better it also not happen.

What is with Oyedepo Boko haram will stop did it happen.

No one can say what happen in the future!

Wcole:
Heaven on Earth greetings to everybody. With my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, drinking water on empty stomach increases your level of hunger. Because water aids digestion, so the little food substance in your stomach will digest and you get hungry shortly after drinking water.

sorry that is not tru, people need water and when the body didnot have enought water the blood gets thick, and that can give you health problems.

People can survive with only water, for more than 40 days but when you have only bread and no water you cannot survive 40 days.

martineverest:
Pls,how does european and american pastors survive

We have a small churchtax it is about 1,1% of my salary of one year but only when I have more than 850 euros per month below no church tax.

Our pastors have no big cars, no bodyguards and the bishop from vienna has a VW sharan and only a driver no bodygard and this in one of the richest countries in the world.

He has no private jet, when he has to go to rom he go by train and when he fly than you will see him in the economic class.

A pastors salary is this from a normal teacher in a primary school.

henryobinna:
I don't know if their churches do or do not pay tithe

How pastors survive in europa I can tell you we have no tithing here, we have a churchtax which is between 1,1 and 2,5% of the salary of one year that is for germany and austria and also many other countries in europa.

I can speak from austria where i know how it works, pastors must teach religion in the school and they get a salary. The house they live belong to the village or the churchvillage when it is in a big city but when they are retired they have to leave this house.
Pastors in europa didnot have this big cars, they didnot have bodyguards, the bishop from vienna has a driver and his car is a VW sharan so no big car no private jet and only a 80m2 flat with a livingroom an office and a sleeping room, lutheran pastors have normal houses not big ones.
One person who get only 850 euro per month didnot pay churchtax for two it is about 1250 and when they have one kid it is about 1400 and so many peole didnot pay churchtax, when you pay churchtax you get it back from the goverment when you didnot pay more than 600 euro per year. In austria we didnot have tithing since 1790 when empire joseph II changed it.

What we have is offering but we know for what the offering is.

You will never and I say never see Pastors in such big cars like in nigeria.

Take the drugs is very important.

Drink water. and when you fast please drink water also during the day.

Be carfully with salt.

Many fruits and vegetables, we learn 5 times fruits and vegetables and meat not every day, and less red meat, white meat and fish but not every day.

3 meals a day

I have a friend he live since 15 years with this.

Niki Lauda a world campion in formula one, live more than 20 years with this, his first kidney was from his brother and the second he got was from his wife and he is still working very hard, and the head of motorsport from mercedes.

I know since a long time that pastors fake miracles in nigeriaq there is a TV documentatuon about Pastors Fireman from lagos and you can see it on youtoube and it is made from a jounalist from UK and it is realy very good.

No Pastors can realy tell you what happen in the future.
No Pastor can drive with his car without fuel
No Pastor can make miracles

Al is fake to get money out of the pockets from their brainwashed followers.

You only see this from the pentecost/charistmatic pastors the man made Gods they have this and you will never see this outside of africa.

They are super stars so they need it and every pastors who have this is not a real christian.

This americans only want to get money and I always know that the story was a lie.

I was clinical death for about 2 minutes about 18 years ago and I can tell you nothing happen realy nothing.

What is so special with that sign, this pope is a real christian and what is with the sign of victory so please it is okay and this pope is much better than all this charismatic/pentcost jetflying empirebuilding pastors from nigeria.

It is dangerous not to drink water during the day when it is hot and you are outside the house and working and I can tell you it could give you problems with the kidney so please drink water.

All this pentecost pastors who tell their followers to fast for 40 days didnot know how bad it is for the health.

I was for a fasting week in a special hotel which is run by nuns and we make a 5 day real fasting only drinking tea and water and praying and than we start with spedial food to break the fasting, but what we lean was always to drink about 3 liter of water.

so please drink water it is better for the healt

that is not new this teaching here in Austria we found this teaching in the schoolbooks from the private school from saudi arabia and with the end ot this school year in 5 month the school will be close.

I weant to remember of this blogger fropm saudi arabia who only write in his blog that also other religions are not bad and see what happen to him.

Books from saudi arabia will teach the hate of other religions.

smartshadow:
I just came across this lovely picture of Bishop David Oyedepo and his family
The two men at the extreme are his sons with their wives and children while his two daughters are the ones behind
Aren't they such a blessed family
Live long Papa

Very good fotos from a businessfamily, where you can see the net generation who will take over the empire, selling the gospel.

toluleke:
1)Pastor W.F Kumuyi
born 6th of June 1941into a christian family in Erin-ijesha.He is the founder and general superintendent of the deeper life bible church. He is an author of several books .In the early 1970s, kumuyi worked as an education lecturer at unilag. He is a first class graduate in mathematics at the university of Ibadan. He started his church in 1973 which was called deeper life bible study group,he is a man filled with the holy spirit his words from the pulpit touches even the deadliest sinner

2)Pastor Enoch Adeboye
born at ifewara, osun-state. He is the general overseer of the redeemed christian church of God. A graduate of university of Nigeria Nsukka and subsequently got his PhD in applied mathematics in university of lagos. He began as an interpreter for the then founder Late Rev. Josiah olufemi Akindayomi. In 1981 Adeboye was appointed general overseer of the church after the death of the founder. He gave up his lecturing job after three years of part-time to become a full-time minister. He has the largest congregation in Nigeria. He is married to Foluke. He is a powerful man of God also filled with the holy spirit and most respect in Nigeria

3)Dr D.K Olukoya
founder of the mountain of fire and miracles ministries. He holds a first class honours degree in microbiology from unilag,PhD in molecular genetics from Reading university united kingdom. A researcher with over seventy scientific publications to his credit. He is a revival of apostolic signs,holy ghost fireworks and the unlimited demonstration of God power to deliver. He trains your hand to wage war and finger to fight. His mentor Late Pastor Joseph Ayo Babalola.He believe in stop them before they stop you. Married to Shade and blessed with a son Elijah toluwani. He believes in deliverance and aggressive prayers

4)Brother Gbile Akanni
lives in Gboko is a teacher of the word he holds an inter-denominational fellowship which attracts christians. He doesn't run a church. He is an itinerant preacher. A man with high understanding of the bible. His ministry LIVING SEED is a weekly fellowship gathering. He has great depth of the word of God. Married to SADE

5) Pastor Chris Oyakhilome
PhD holder,general overseer of Christ Embassy .Author of several books among which is the life changing Rhapsody of realities.He is a full time man of God filled with the spirit and depth knowledge of God word. Divorced due to unkown circumstances with his wife Anita

6) Rev. Olusola Ayodele Areogun
is an ordained minister of the gospel . He is the founder of Life Oasis international churches. His radio/TV programmes LIVING BY ANswer is aired across Nigeria. Author of spirit meat which is freely distributed. He is filled with the holy spirit and his words from the pulpit are powerful.married to Oyenike

7)Bishop David Oyedepo -
born september 27 1954.into a muslim family of Pa Ibrahim in omu-Aran kwara-state. He is the founder of Living faith church worldwide known as winners' chapel. Has the largest auditorium in the world and richest pastor in Nigeria. He is one of the most powerful pastor he is an author and the chancellor of over 2 universities. He is a motivational speaker and teaches on how to give and be prosperous with depth knowledge of the bible ,married to Faith

NB: please add other men of God you have really learnt from and their brief history,never forget behind every successful pastor there is a "pastoress"include their wives names.
Thanks

all of themn are self made God of man, and nigerians are Idol whorshipers.

all this pentecost/charismatic pastors are business man who want to buildl their own empire.

When this are real great man of God than they should sell all what they have an keep only a house and one car that is all what they need.

Why this so called great man of god need security!

Nigeria will change when this fake Pastors show what it is real to be a christian.

They should stop to preach the heresy properety gospel and God will give no one an extraordanary belssing when he give this pastors his first fruit because God is no money printing machine, god love people who love the poor, who help the peooe and not people who enricht their self made man of God.

Stop Fasting because not all people can fast and what this fake Pastor tell his followers is dangerous.

Please stop it because when you have a family your God of man will not put food on your table when you lose your life.

What brings all the fasting to nigeria last year it was 100 days this year it is 40 days it is all that Daddy gets more money for his empire what a fake god of man, because to make this you have to see a doctor before.

Please stop it, Adeboye is not more as a business man so why he need to build a second university when most of his followers couldnot send their childrend to his university, you are a brainwashed follower of this fake Pastor.


Ask yourself did he fast when he go to the wedding of the daughter of the president.

He traveld with the jet he got he live a better life than his brainwashed folloers.

Stop fasting it is dangerous for your health and read the bible and don't listen to the fake pentecost/charismatic pastors in nigeria.

he is a fake pentecost/charismatic pastor please he is only a business man like all the rich nigerian Pastors.

He has nothing to do with a real christian,

laudate:
So her tenure as President only covers one meeting?

Chai! So once the meeting is over, her reign comes to an end?

So why have some people been making a big deal, out of this issue? Even the tenure of the Governor of the OPEC Board and the Secretary-General lasts much longer, than that of the president of the conference!

Ah, a little education is a dangerous thing oh.... thanks for enlightening us. May your days be long!

Thank you very much because I live in vienna and i know how the opec work and that there is a new president is not important so it was not a headline in the newspapers, but when a new secretary is than it is in the newspapers and in the news in the TV.

First fruit is not for christians

why we here in europa don't have it, we have n o tithing we have a small churchta what is between 1 and 2,5 % of your salary from one year.

No lutheran or chatolic or ortodox churches have this also in russia they didnot have this.

Ask you why nigerian pastors are so rich why they have private jets, please show me a pastor from europa who has one, please son't look at america americans sell all and what to make profit with all.

The pentecost/charismatic pastors they come from america and they learn it from them to enrich themself, I know from on man made God that he told his followers that who pay no first fruit is cursed his name starts with A....

So please read the bible, first fruits is not for real christians it is only for the money loving businessman who collect this in the name of God only to build their empire here on earth.

Pastors who preach the heresy prosperity gospel are no real christians.

blakky97:
210km/hr. this is the funniest joke so far

that was no joke that was a renault and it goes 213 kn and in europa the Autobahn is very good so you can drive it.

it is no joke.

youngice:
Ever driven on autobahn before

Oh yeah I like autobahn for long distance but what I like also is the roads in the mountains.

I had a good friend and we make together rallies with the car when I was young, I was in motor sport.

tartar9:
which country u in?

I am from austria, Vienna

tartar9:
what do u mean?they are also islamizing europe :-/

there are some groups in europa who give out the koran for free and try to bring young people to the islam and that they should fight for ISIS or that they should go and marry a fighter there.

In my country we have a hotline from the goverment where paratns get help when they see that their kida are in contact with such a group, also we have some imans here some of them sit now in prision for terorism.

ojialo:
u were 18 when u had ur first car nne biko what do u do? ko amuru gi with silver spoon ko akwuna akwuna?

I got my car fom my father at my 18th birthday the day when i got my drivinglicense but it was no new car it was a used car.. No silverspoon but my father had a good job.

My brothers got small bikes when they where 16 years old so no big deal.

tartar9:
christains and their paranoia

sorry that is not tru because also we here in europa see this new islam and we don't want it.

I like to drive and the fastest I could make was 210 km/hr with the car from a friend and normaly I drive between 140 and 170 km/hr.

The longest way I make alone with a car was from Vienna to Hamburg in germany that is about 1200 km one way, with two stops where drank coffee.

I was 18 when I got my first own car.

I drive very much when i go for holiday because i have a motorhome and the longest way with stops was from vienna to the nord cap in norway and back in 3 Weeks.

I like it thanks

36STATES:
This fraudster has started again this year. What happened to earlier prophesies. Exactly this time last year he claimed Boko Harem would end 2014. I don't think I gonna give him the benefit of doubt this year again.

Yeah that is tru and that the year 2014 will be better than 2013.

you forgot the 100 fasting that will change nigeria and what happen , it got worse and than come this with the girls, the many bombs......