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from Frizy I remember you saying:Pls provide quote/thread and stop wiping up sentiments against me. I don't know about your hadith and koran but my Bible tells me that Christ is the way, the truth and the life and no one comes to the father except by him. His testimonies are so sure and holiness befits his house O Lord Our God! |
babs787:I know that you don't need an answer but here they are Mark 16:16 Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned 9 After Jesus rose from the dead early on Sunday morning, the first person who saw him was Mary Magdalene, the woman from whom he had cast out seven demons. 10 She went to the disciples, who were grieving and weeping, and told them what had happened. 11 But when she told them that Jesus was alive and she had seen him, they didn’t believe her. 12 Afterward he appeared in a different form to two of his followers who were walking from Jerusalem into the country. 13 They rushed back to tell the others, but no one believed them. 14 Still later he appeared to the eleven disciples as they were eating together. He rebuked them for their stubborn unbelief because they refused to believe those who had seen him after he had been raised from the dead.[d] 15 And then he told them, “Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone. 16 A[b]nyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned[/b]. 17 These miraculous signs will accompany those who believe: They will cast out demons in my name, and they will speak in new languages.[e] 18 They will be able to handle snakes with safety, and if they drink anything poisonous, it won’t hurt them. They will be able to place their hands on the sick, and they will be healed.” And again John 5:24 “I tell you the truth, those who listen to my message and believe in God who sent me have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they have already passed from death into life. John 6:47 “I tell you the truth, anyone who believes has eternal life. John 14:6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me |
babs787:To God be the glory. I rather be a kafir than be a follower of a paedophile, an adulterer, a womaniser and a prophet who attempted suicide after sensing that he was going mad. And why won't he go mad after sharing war booties including wives of others. Islamic tradition relates that Muhammad was a superman when it came to sex: Narrated Qatada: Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven). (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268) What a prophet! As for your question, it is clear that you and Al Raheem are suffering from the same halluciniations that MO suffered hence you don't understand simple english. May God redeem your soul ![]() |
It is rather funny how people react to issues because of deep rooted hatred. As far as I am concerned the thread is an exaltation to the Pope. Instead of praising him for at least being ashamed of the ills of the priests people like cgift decided to unleash their long held hatred when it is not even warranted. To start with, that the Pope felt ashamed that such a thing was being perpetrated in the church shows that Christianity or Catholicism (before you crucify me) does not support that but the author/poster forgot that the founder of his religion aka the Great religion is a reknown paedophile and such remain the practice in their so called religion where canal defilement of kids are welcome rather than frowned at. And that does not stop them from recycling women (marrying, divorcing and remarrying raised to power infinity) 4Him, Uche2nnq, cgift et al I see no issues where you are all pushing your head off. MC Usman - You would have been happier if your paedophile and womaniser had a better morale background than he displayed to the whole world. i weep when I read of his sexual escapades |
babs787:At least you admitted posting senselessly which is quite unlike you. I am really seeing some +ve? changes in you. babs787:Just as you changed your signature to mine. A free world indeed |
Frizy:Now read this Narrated Abdullah bin Masud: "During the lifetime of the Prophet the moon was split into two parts and on that the Prophet said, 'Bear witness (to thus).' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 830)" Narrated Anas: "That the Meccan people requested Allah's Apostle to show them a miracle, and so he showed them the splitting of the moon. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 831)" Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: "The moon was split into two parts during the lifetime of the Prophet. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 832)" Narrated Anas bin Malik: "The people of Mecca asked Allah's Apostle to show them a miracle. So he showed them the moon split in two halves between which they saw the Hiram' mountain. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar), Volume 5, Book 58, Number 208)" Narrated 'Abdullah: "The moon was split ( into two pieces ) while we were with the Prophet in Mina. He said, "Be witnesses." Then a Piece of the moon went towards the mountain. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar), Volume 5, Book 58, Number 209)" Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas: "During the lifetime of Allah's Apostle the moon was split (into two places). (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar), Volume 5, Book 58, Number 210)" Narrated 'Abdullah: "The moon was split (into two pieces). (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar), Volume 5, Book 58, Number 211)" This hilarious Islamist site recounts the many ludicrous hadiths of ‘moon splitting’. http://www.answering-christianity.com/moon_split.htm Osama Abdallah’s answering-christianity article attempts to deflect criticism of Muhammad’s splitting of the moon. Apparently the moon never really split. The ‘moon splitting’ incident was merely a misunderstanding – the hadiths were only referring to the new moon. This is patently false as the hadiths clearly refer to this incident as somehow miraculous. The new moon occurs every month and thus is not miraculous; certainly not miraculous enough to fool even the gullible into believing that Muhammad is a prophet of God. According to Muslim legend, Cheraman Perumal (aka Chakrawati Farmas) was supposed to have witnessed this splitting of the moon. Quote: WITNESS OF MOON SPLITTING (A MIRACLE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) CHAKRAWATI FARMAS KING OF MALABAR, INDIA The incident relating to King Chakrawati Farmas is documented in an old manuscript in the India Office Library, London, which has reference number: Arabic, 2807, 152-173. It was quoted in the book "Muhammad Rasulullah," by M. Hamidullah: "There is a very old tradition in Malabar, South-West Coast of India, that Chakrawati Farmas, one of their kings, had observed the splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) at Mecca, and learning on inquiry that there was a prediction of the coming of a Messanger of God from Arabia (Detail given below), he appointed his son as regent and set out to meet him. He embraced Islam at the hand of the Prophet, and when returning home, at the direction of the Prophet, died at the port of Zafar, Yemen, where the tomb of the "Indian king" was piously visited for many centuries." The old manuscript in the 'India Office Library' contains several other details about King Chakrawati Farmas and his travel[1]. The king spent weeks in seclusion. In the midst of his quiet life, he set out on the journey along with the Arab travelers who'd promised him earlier. On the way, they stopped by Koylandi and from there to Dharmapatnam where they halted for 3 days. Then they set out to Shehr Muqalla. On reaching there, they set for the Hajj pilgrimage and thereafter returned to Malabar. He aspired to spread the message of Islam. But on the way, he fell sick and breathed his last. A tradition of the Holy Prophet has also been reported from one of the companions, Abu Saeed al Kaudri, regarding the arrival of Cheraman Perumel. "A king from India presented the Messenger of Allah with a bottle of pickle that had ginger in it. The Holy Prophet distributed it among his companions. I also received a piece to eat ". (Hakim reports in 'Al Musthadrak) http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=rarticle&raid=170 ANALYSIS Is Cheraman Perumal the same person as Chakrawati Farmas? The evidence that they are the same people comes from the fact that the above story relates to both Chakrawati Farmas and Cheraman Perumal. Also, the account of Cheraman Perumal is identical or very similar to that of Chakrawati Farmas, particularly with respect to the Hajj (see below). http://jaihoon.com/watan/perumalfirst.htm http://www.iio.org/article.php?story=20030925075129438&mode=print Cheraman Perumal is also thought to be Rajasekhara Varman (820-844). http://www.kerala.cc/keralahistory/index20.htm What do the Religious Legends say about when Cheraman Perumal lived? According to the Muslims, Cheraman Perumal lived during Muhammad’s lifetime as they claim he witnessed the ‘splitting of the moon’ incident. Quote: There was a Muslim community in Malabar, southwest India as early as 618 C.E. as a result of King Chakrawati Farmas accepting Islam at the hands of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). http://www.themodernreligion.com/quotations_muslims_india.htm Quote: Cheraman Juma Masjid the first mosque of India. Built in 629 AD, this is the first mosque in India and the second in the world where Juma prayers were started. People from far and near irrespective of caste and creed visit this holy place and pay their homage. This mosque has a unique specialty. Mosques built all over the world face the direction of Mecca, but this particular one faces along the east. The first mosque in India is Situated in Kodungalloor, Legend says King Cheraman Perumal of Kodungallur left for Mecca, embraced Islam, accepted the name Thajudeen, married the sister of the then King of Jeddah. Before his death Thajuddeen handed over to the King of Jeddah several letters addressed to Kerala Kings seeking their help to propagate Islam. The Jiddah king came to Kerala and met the then king of Kodungalloor who helped the former to build a Juma Masjid.The first mosque in India. http://www.members.tripod.com/navaskj/kodungallur.htm Quote: The Cheraman Juma Masjid was built by Malik bin Dinar, one of the 13 followers of Prophet Mohammad who reached the ancient port of Musuris on the spice route in Malabar in 629 AD. Legend has it that Cheraman Perumal, a Hindu ruler of Musuris (modern Kodungallur), embraced Islam at the behest of Dinar, abdicated his throne and left for Mecca to meet the prophet. Perumal is reported to have died at the port of Zafar, Yemen, where the tomb of the "Indian king" was a major attraction to Muslim pilgrims for many centuries. http://www.indiatraveltimes.com/travelogue/mosque.html A new discovery suggests Cheraman Perumal left for Mecca sometime around 642-643AD. Quote: According to Dr. G.S. Khwaja of the Archeological Survey of India, some missionaries led by Maalik Bin Dinaar, a Sufi saint from Basra and a contemporary of the prophet came to Kerala in the seventh Century. They presented themselves in the court of Cheraman Perumal, a Zamorian dynasty king, in 642-43 AD or Hijia 22 (22 years after the prophet's migration from Mecca to Madina). An epigraph about the Islamic mission, written in difficult-to-read, ancient version of Arabic language, was founded executed on a wooden Lintel of the Jami mosque at Kasargod in Kerala… …The Kasargod mosque lintel inscription bears out the earliest reference to Islam in Kerala in an ancient Arabic book, "Tohafatul Mujahideen" written by Zainuddin Malabari. It narrates the story of arrival of what could be the first Islamic mission to Kerala by sea, led by Maalik Bin Dinaar. According to the book, a Zamorin dynasty king, Cheraman Perumal, was ruling then and the missionaries presented themselves in his court in the year 642-43 AD or Hijra 22. The king welcomed the mission and asked about Islam. So impressed was he with Malik's interpretation of the religion that he embraced Islam, the book says. Cherman Perumal became Abdullah Sameri and undertook Haj pilgrimage to meet prophet Mohammed at Mecca. On his way back, Sameri died at Zulfar, a coastal town in Yemen, where records show that a grave with the name of Sameri engraved on it still exists. http://muslimsonline.com/babri/keralamuslim.htm Alas, this Muslim discovery proves the Muslim legend in error as Muhammad the sinful pedophile died in 632 AD, thus making it truly miraculous that Cheraman Perumal could have personally witnessed the ‘moon splitting’ incident at least a decade after the charlatan prophet’s long-overdue death. The Christians, however, believe Cheraman Perumal lived when St Thomas migrated to Malabar in the fourth century. Quote: Knai Thoma and his people were heartily welcomed by Cheraman Perumal, the Emperor. Cheraman Perumal sent his brother, Ramavarma, and his minister, Vettathu Mannan, to receive Knai Thoma and his people. Knai Thoma and his people were given permission to settle down in Kodungalloor and to do business. Later Cheraman Perumal bestowed Knai Thoma and his people with 72 princely privileges and there by elevated them over 17 castes. This proclamation was made on a Saturday in March (Kumbham 29), 345 and it was recorded on copper plates given to Knai Thoma (Knai Thomman Cheppedu). http://www.knanaya.us/msks.htm So we have conflicting religious sources as to when Cheraman Perumal lived. If he lived in the period ascribed to him by the Christians, he couldn’t have witnessed the ‘moon splitting’ incident as he would have predated Muhammad by almost three centuries. Nevertheless, there are conflicting Muslim accounts of when he left for Mecca, namely around 629AD or 643AD. When did this ‘moon splitting’ incident supposed to have occurred? Quote: According to Maududi, the traditionists and commentators have agreed that this incident took place at Mina in Makkah about five years before the Holy Prophet's Hijra (migration) to Madinah. The Moon had split into two distinct parts in front of their very eyes. The two parts had separated and receded so much apart from each other that to the on-lookers (in Makkah) one part had appeared on one side of the mountain and the other on the other side of it. Then, in an instant the two had rejoined. This was a manifest proof of the truth that the system of the universe was neither eternal nor immortal, it could be disrupted. http://www.iio.org/article.php?story=20030925075129438&mode=print As Hijra is traditionally accepted to have occurred in the year 622AD, the ‘moon splitting’ incident must have occurred sometime around 617AD. This means that Malik bin Dinar’s arrival in Malabar in 629AD was about 12 years too late for Cheraman Perumal to have witnessed the ‘moon splitting’ incident. More likely Malik bin Dinar told the king this lie, rather than the king himself witness the incident. Through time, the legend transmutated from Cheraman Perumal being told the incident to him witnessing the incident. When did the Historical Cheraman Perumal live? The established historical sources from Kerala suggest that Cheraman Perumal lived in the ninth century. Quote: His successor, Rajasekhara Varman (820-844), was a Saivite saint who introduced the Malayalam Era known as Kollam Era in 825 A.D. Sthanu Ravi Varman is sometimes identified with Rajasekhara Varman who in turn is identified with Cheraman Perumal Nayanar. According to Keralolpathi, Cheraman Perumal was the last emperor; he divided the kingdom among his suzerains, embraced Islam, left Kerala for Mecca, married a Muslim princess, and finally died on the Arabian Coast. http://www.kerala.cc/keralahistory/index20.htm Quote: A later king who abdicated his throne in 825 AD was Cheraman Perumal who apparently accepted Islam and went to Mecca. http://kerala-history.nrksite.com/history2.htm Quote: Cheraman Perumal Nayanar, one of the two Nayanars from Kerala, as stated above, has been identified with Rajasekhara Varman (820-844 A.D.), the second of the kings who ruled over the Kulasekhara empire. http://www.hindubooks.org/temples/kerala/Introduction/page9.htm So it would appear that the historical facts do not support Cheraman Perumal ever having witnessed the ‘moon splitting’ incident. What the Muslim Historian said about Cheraman Perumal Muslims claim that Cheraman Perumal aka Chakrawati Farmas personally witnessed the ‘moon splitting’ incident, based on legend. At least one historian disagrees. In fact, it is undeniable that far from witnessing the incident, Cheraman Perumal was told of it and this gullible king converted to Islam on the basis of this supernatural tale. The folly of humans, even kings, is boundless, as evidenced by the number of Muslims past, present and future. How do we explain this? Easily. Allah made some people idiots and called them Muslims. Quote: The tradition account of the introduction of Islam to the Malabar coast is recorded by Zayn-us-Din, an historian of the sixteenth century. He states that the conversion of Cheruman Perumal occurred during the lifetime of the Prophet. A company of pilgrims from Arabia were making a journey to visit Adam’s footprint in Ceylon. On their arrival at Cranganore they paid a visit to the raja, and told him of the miracle of Muhammad’s having split the moon. Perumal was captivated by this report of the exhibition of such supernatural power. He was converted; and when the pilgrims returned from their journey he secretly joined them, and went with them to Arabia to visit the Prophet, who had not yet fled to Medina." (Titus, 1936, pp. 32-33). http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/dharma/history4.htm This fits with the time frame of the historical facts of Cheraman Perumal’s lifetime and the discrepancy between the arrival of Muslim missionaries in Malabar and the putative date of the ‘moon splitting’ incident. CONCLUSION Religious sources seem contradictory with respect to when Cheraman Perumal lived and whether he did witness the ‘moon splitting’ incident. It must be noted that Cheraman Perumal was a legendary king of Kerala and it is unsurprising that various religions, Hinduism, Christianity and Islam, try to associate themselves with his renown, regardless of historical facts. It is apparent that the historical facts do not support the Islamist legend that Chakrawati Farmas (aka Cheraman Perumal aka Rajasekhara Varman) personally witnessed the ludicrous ‘moon splitting’ incident as he is thought to have lived about two centuries after the death of the delusional homicidal pedophile, Muhammad bin Abdallah, who made up the ‘moon splitting’ so-called miracle to fool gullible Muslims past, present and future. Only stupid Muslims believe that a man living in the ninth century can personally witness a supposed miracle performed by a murderous, pedophilic and false prophet in the seventh century, an event not witnessed by anybody else. Truly a miracle of Islam. Source: http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7509&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 |
from almondjoy Mistakenly put "ground ogbonor" inside my egusi soup. . .thinking it was "ground crayfish". . .That is another type of soup altogether ( egusi & ogbono aka Bachelor's soup) and can be very delicious from miss reese This was 2 years ago, i was trying to impress some guy with my cooking skills so i decided to make moinmoin,there is nothing wrong with this; yoruba call it ekuru (I have not eaten one sha) |
hmmm, its like I am in the wrong place, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz got to dose off |
And again, who witnessed the splitting of the moon? |
Can I invest N1m and reap big in Transcorp shares now that prices are low |
Go get your money from the bank period |
Didicee:PH is oil city. If they like make them sell am N50, una go buy |
@olabowale FYI all Jesus miracles are narrative. The question is: How did MO split the moon? And if he did split the moon, are the two parts shown so that we can be sure that they make up a complete moon. You can't use your teeth to share meat and tell us that you shared it equally without showing us the bit in your mouth. When it has to do with Christ and Xtianity muslims will seek evidence for the least bit but they are unwilling to expansiate on serious ones like this one. Salaam |
babs787:Empty words. You all know that you have various versions of Koran but you rather defend it with your life than admit the truth. Hmmm, is the issue of consequence a threat or what? |
I thought the price will come down but it never did after the brief ban by LSG. But tell me, is the price the same all over Naija or is the price of nylon only evident in Lagos? |
@topic It is not for us to tell who will go to heaven or not but God in His infinite mercy and wisdom knoweth and seeth all. To Him alone belongs the great judgement, so lets be careful what we say or do in order not to go astray. @olobawale Al Jannah means the Paradise.So how many levels do you have in paradise? And which one did MO go to when he was not even sure of making it to paradise? What is the qualification to ascend to the various levels? And must all go to hell before getting to the various paradise? Concise answers please |
@olabowale & frizy When I looked at your jaundiced responses, I convulsed in laughter. That is typical of the people of the great religion who leave simple questions and start chasing shadows and dribbling like Okocha. Witness asked some questions, provide answers period. No long thing, no long talk ![]() |
Hahahahaha Na wao, babs787, na so you dey envy me reach wey you go copy my signature. Good! But one more thing, accept the lord Jesus as your lord and personal saviour and enjoy a world of bliss @al Raheem Na so so ikebe you dey fantasize about that's why you cant pray with them abi? What happen to self control? What is she suckles you, will you still desire her? |
Abilityman, Are you still searching or have you gotten your virgin wife? |
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@poster Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion but as for A'joy have said it all even though some pple may abhor her line of thinking. No man will accept responsibility for that child. He may even think you want to plant the child one him. You met one night and you allowed him in just like that korokoro, he will think that you might have gotten pregnant and was looking for someone to hold responsible. My sister had a r/ship with a guy for 16months, the guy did not deny the pregnancy but told her to abort and when she refused, he refused to cater for the baby up till now (baby is about 8 months now) not to talk of a one night stand. Haba. Forget him and move on. It was a fun both of you had and the price has to be borne by you |
Methink the plane is in the river/sea/ocean or whatever you call it but definitely not on the land |
Pls anybody with useful info about the whereabout of my former school mates Ndubuisi Oti from Afikpo Peace Unachukwu from Oko Peace Ihuoma from Imerienwe (Ngor Okpalla) Blessing Jimbel from Umuahia Pls contact me via nossycheek@hotmail.com or 08038245467 (CALL OR SEND SMS) |
How can I get along with them when there are 5 of them living with us and holding broad day meeting? It is like living in the midst of enemies |
How can I get along with them when 5 of them live with us and hold day time meetings against me? It is like living in the midst of the enemies |
Never tell him if you ever want your peace of mind. He will use it against you at the slightest provocation |
She needs a lot of counselling on what she is into. And if that is not enough for her, then you can use little force to get the trash out of her head. At 14+ she obviously knows nothing |
Some of the responses to this thread are really absurd. Imagine some people saying that being a vigin at a certain age is an indication that something is wrong somewhere or lack of opportunity. And all the virgin seekers of nairaland have suddenly gone asleep. ayexel:Seeking their opinion? How? Did I mention names and who said they don't want to get married when they are not nuns? It is just a matter of meeting the right person and not being made an easy lay. I cherish my sisters-in-law for being chaste for so long, it is just that the right men seem not to come their way and need not be mocked. May be I should have gone to match making clubs instead of here where every issue is mocked and castigated. And the number of viewers and responses are attestations of how obsessed with the V issue. Some of them lost theirs at age 9 and here they are mocking chastity |
@De-reloaded Why the confusion? They are staying with us |
D-reloaded:I am living with them and don't find it funny at times morenike09:I don't think they have problem, they smile a lot and are homely |


