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sasalite:I thought as much. I have only come in contact with few maguzawa hausa. Very calm and humble people. There are some few questions I'd like to ask you about your people please. I'd appreciate your honest response. 1) Are all Maguzawa hausa people christians today? Or are there still pure hausa pagans? Are there hausa muslims who still practice and believe in maguzawa culture? 2) I heard 'Masihiyawa' is the umbrella body for Hausa christians. Do you have a rough idea how many hausa christians and maguzawa still exist today? Apparently, they are around 2 million, how true? 3) What areas are you guys predominantly found? I heard you guys are mostly found in Kano (Tudun wada & Doguwa), in Zaria (Wusasa) and in Katsina (Malumfashi, Kankia & Kafur)..... Is this true? 4) I also heard that you guys are heavily discriminated by the muslim majority society and treated badly. And that many of you are converting to islam to escape discrimination..... Is this true? 5) How do you guys view the name 'Maguzawa'? Do you find it derogatory? Is that what the muslims call you guys most often? Thanks for your response. |
ayoxelee:That is the problem. Majority of the Ilorin yorubas have been heavily mixed with people of fulani, nupe & hausa origin, hence they are very sympathetic to Arewa identity and are pro-caliphate. Liberating Ilorin would be almost impossible. Let us not forget that Moro LGA which is under Ilorin emirate too is predominantly Nupe and Yoruba/Nupe mixed people. Ilorin is just too mixed. Yorubaness has been heavily diluted. And the issue of islamic bond is not helping matters. |
DedeNkem:Don't forget that Kogi shares direct boundary with Igbo land and many other Southern states. The fulanis can definitely use this place as a launch and conference center to attack neighbouring Southern states, just as they used Odekpe town in neighbouring Kogi state to converge and attack Enugu. You never can tell. |
EternalTruths:Predominantly Ebira and some few Igalas. |
scholes0:Na so |
Bluffly:Abeg don't drag all the middlebelt people into the stupidity of Egbirra people. Can't you see that the Igalas and Okuns in Kogi state rejected it? Ebiras are predominantly muslims and majority have sold themselves to Hausa fulani in the name of islam. Also, this by mistake Egbirra governor is doing all he can to win Buhari's heart so that they can rig the next Kogi election for him to assume 2nd tenure, cos he sure knows that the Igalas and okuns hate him and will never vote him for another tenure. Go and post any campaign picture of this governor in any part of Kogi east (Igala land) and watch Igala youths lynch you to death. Should we all tag all Igbos as senseless because of the stupidity and sycophancy of Rochas? |
femidejulius:What do you expect. Yahaya Bello knows that the Igalas and Okuns in the state will never vote him for another tenure and Ebira votes cannot make him governor again. ....so he wants Buhari to rig the election in his favour, but this is his mistake. He will still loose. |
poseidon12:Nupe and gwari muslims will still vote Buhari again of course. They have lost their identity to islam. However, the christians among them will not. Kanuris and hausas value Islamic bond more than anything, so, no need to even consider whatever they say. The only muslims in Nigeria who do not play politics with religion are the yorubas and Igalas. Ebira muslims are just like nupe muslims, islam means more to the majority of them. |
Odingo1:I am not a yoruba, so am not defending them, but I actually think they are right. Many Nigerian groups including the yorubas, nupes, Hausas, Kanuris, Baribas etc, were already muslims before Danfodio came. It is on record. Danfodio only made islam more radical (supposedly 'pure') by enliminating almost all forms of idolatary from cultures. Iwo is in Osun state, and they are more Islamic than many parts of Kwara south, Oyo state (Ogbomosho) and Kogi west, who are predominantly christian and more northerly located. So, that is really no point. Islam came into yoruba land from the western axis (Mali). Ondo, Ekiti and Kogi west are more eastern in location. |
ballerin:Saraki could actually be hausa or fulani by ancestry. Is Saraki a Yoruba name? No it's not. It is a corruption of the name SARKI, (which means king in Hausa). So, how come the name? |
TEEBLUE88:You can imagine that!. And it was not as if your people were conquered by Zaria. It was through the colonial indirect rule which the fulanis took advantage of and enslaved most northern minorities. |
sasalite:Wow! Am shocked to see a hausa man being as open as you are. I highly doubt you are a muslim hausa. Perhaps you are a Christian Maguzawa hausa. If not, then, am shocked! However I believe it is not too late. You can still do something for your people, no matter how small or minimal it is, don't just throw in the towel. Sometimes I get so frustrated at my own people (middlebelt and northern minorities), at the docility, foolishness and identity confusion and uncertainty of our people, but I don't think I would easily give up without a fight. In the future, I hope to form a very strong group to mobilize our people together and redefine a new identity and consciousness for them. |
engrchykae:Stop that rubbish, only the case of hausas and Ilorin people is closed and perhaps some other northern tribes. Fulanis will never capture Plateau, Benue, Nasarawa & Taraba. Same with Southern Kaduna. Very soon, I see them loosing Adamawa too. The christian tribes of Adamawa are gradually uniting. Their voices will soon be heard. Kanuri people are also tired of fulanis, but Boko haram has made them a shadow of themselves and the belief in Islamic bondage is still a problem. |
scholes0:My brother. Eggon and Mada people made a very big mistake! They thought they were being dominated and marginalized in Plateau state, then they joined those wolves in sheep clothing (Kambari/Kanuri of Lafia) and others to agitate for their own state. See where it has landedd them, let them produce the governor of Nasarawa state let us see na. Immediately Nasarawa state was created, the Kanuri and hausa fulani emirate minorities joined forces with the tribal muslims to hijack the state. All the stake holders agreed that the capital of the state should be in Akwanga, only for Abacha to turn around overnight and carry the capital to Lafia (where his kanuri brothers are). Eggon/Mada people were clearly deceived and manipulated. They thought they would get the capital in Akwanga. To worsen the case in Nasarawa, the muslims have set the Eggon/mada christians in enimity against the other Christians in the state using tribalism. Aren't you surprised that Buhari has never won Nasarawa state? This is because when it comes to FG elections, all the christians in the state unite, but when it comes to state elections, they are divided along tribe. Well, let's see how the next election will be, I hope the eyes of all Nasarawa christians will open this time around to see that they are being played. Governorship is to be zoned to Nasarawa north where the majority are christians (Eggon/mada people). Let's see how they will manipulate it this time around. As for that Gbagyi king of Karu, I have never heard anything as such, but even if i did, I wouldn't be surprised! Gbagyi people have a slavish mentality and high inferiority. Can't you see how hausas are dominating them on their lands in Minna, Suleja and other parts of Niger east? Gbagyi people are the reason why christians lost domination of Kaduna city. Infact, if not for other southern kaduna tribes who joined forces and have managed to influence the Gbagyis over there, it would have been a completely lost case. Gbagyi christian political leaders used to support Hausa muslims in Kaduna state over southern kaduna people in the past. Not until Sharia 2001 crisis when thousands of the Gbagyis were killed by hausas, did they realize that hausas are the enemies and not their fellow Christians. It is just very sad. Gbagyi people act as if they are under a curse by hausas. Anyway, let me stop here. And you are very correct, if not for the proximity of Karu to Abuja, Karu would have been no different from Keffi, Toto and Nasarawa LGA where most of the gbagyi towns are now dominated by hausas. It is just very shameful. As for the Ebiras and Barubas, take them serious at your own peril. Most of them are pro caliphate and are no different from nupes and even hausas to an extent. They are tools of the caliphate to destabilize the unique middlebelt identity and struggle. |
ayoxelee:Those ones are fulanis or partly fulanis or hausas or nupe by ancestry. Don't be deceived by the fact that they speak yoruba or have yoruba names. They are bot of yoruba origin. The pure yorubas of Afonja lineage will never claim to be fulani or accept the tag |
KingGBsky:Fulanis are kings over all Hausa areas (the entire northwest apart from Southern Kaduna). They used to be kings in southern kaduna as well, until the southern kaduna christian tribes united and broke away from fulani rule, now they have their own traditional rulers. As for the north-east, historically, the fulani army who also used hausa foot soldiers to attack and conquer Bauchi, parts of Adamawa, Yobe, Gombe and even Taraba. So, the fulanis rule the entire north east too, except for the Kanuris of Borno and the Bachama and other tribes of Numan confederation in Adamawa. The people of Southern Gombe (who are christians) also resisted Fulani rule and have their own kings. While a particular tribe in Bauchi south also resisted fulani rule too and now have their own king. Taraba is one north-east state where the majority are not ruled by fulani. The Jukun kingdom of Wukari was great and were never defeated by fulanis. However, fulanis still rule a large chunk of Taraba, but they are heavily opposed and undermined there, since Taraba is a christian majority and christian ruled state. So, fulanis rule at least 50-60% of the north-east. In the north-central, fulanis only dominate in Niger and Kwara state (Ilorin). They rule the entire state as long as am concerned. Although many Nupes and Gwaris will argue that their emirs are not fulanis, however, all Emirs are subject to the fulani Sokoto caliphate, so it makes no difference. Benue state has no business with fulani rule or emirate. Kogi state too, however, that can be argued, since the Maigari of Lokoja is traditionally under the Emir of Bida in Niger state. So Bida controls Lokoja (although just sone part of it). There are emirates in Nasarawa,FCT & Plateau, but they are in a minority. So, we can say at least 25% of north-central is ruled by fulanis. |
scholes0:Gbam! Taraba is a pure middlebelt state. The divide and rule people knew what they were doing when they took Taraba to the north-east. Niger state was part of the old northwest state together with Sokoto and Zamfara. So, during this period and even before, so many hausas became integral parts of Niger state and heavily influenced them. Niger north (Kainji axis) and Niger east used to be slightly dominated by Kainji speaking and Gbagyi christians, but the story has changed today. The state is heavily hausanized. These are the reasons why we have to wake up. Hausanization and pro caliphate domination is now taking over Nasarawa state gradually. If Nasarawa had still remained part of Plateau, this nonsense would not have happened! |
Chidexter:Of course it has to be by violence! Go and ask Southern Kaduna people how they broke out of the strangling grip of Zaria emirate. Millions of Southern Kaduna christians have been ruled from Zaria and all their local chiefs, village head and traditional rulers were fulani muslims sent from Zaria. What do you think caused the 1992 Zangon kataf crisis where the whole town was burnt to the ground and thousands of people died? Go and ask Sayawa people (Hon Yakubu Dogara's tribe) of Bauchi south how they broke out of Bauchi emirate. They had to organize an ethnic cleansing and chased/kill all the fulanis away from Tafawa balewa town, till today, there is no mosque in that town! If not for that, you could imagine how fulanis were dominating Sayawa christians in their own ancestral land. It had to take series of crisis and bloodshed. In Adamawa too, one tribe (Michika LGA) have also pulled out of fulani rule, but the fulani dominated state have refused to recognize it. See how they did it, when the current fulani king died. The fulani emirate in Mubi was about to send another king, the locals ambushed the coming king, chased them back to Mubi and forcefully crowned their own as king. Killing every fulani left behind. Now they are no longer under fulani rule. However, dozens of other tribes in Adamawa, in Borno south and Yobe, and even some in Taraba still remain under fulani rule. Why do you think the fulanis have been fighting Bachama people in Adamawa recently? Bachama people are the only people in Adamawa who were never under fulani rule, hence the only threat to absolute Fulani domination in Adamawa. Fulanis can do anything they like and go free all over Adamawa state, but not in the 5 LGAs of Bachama and neighbouring peoples. I pity that foolish old man who thinks they can overthrow a full emirate without crisis. Infact, theirs would need to be a full scale war, because unlike northern minorities who were only breaking away from the emirates, these ones want to overthrow a full blown emirate. I wonder why most yorubas just like to deceive themselves. Cc laydoh, TheKingIsHere, sasalite, ZorGBUooeh ballerin:Story for the gods, read what I wrote above. |
laydoh:Can you hear yourself and how silly you sound? Are there no millions of muslims in Oyo, Ogun, Osun e. t. c? Is it also the fulanis that brought islam to them? |
ZorGBUooeh:Actually the Original poor unmixed hausas are not beneficiaries...... The beneficiaries of the Hausa fulani alliance are the fulanis themselves and the hausa elites who have intermixed with the fulanis. |
TheKingIsHere:Keep waiting for the hausas. Majority of the Hausas have been brainwashed into seeing Islam as an identity and bond btw them and the fulanis. And all the Hausa elites have been heavily intermixed with fulanis, so how the hell do you want hausas to do this? A hausa man whose grandmother, mother, wives and inlaws are all fulanis, should now start fighting fulanis? Impossible na. Majority of the pure original hausas who have not mixed with the fulanis are poor, rural and illiterate! These ones cannot do jack! So just forget about Hausa people, they are a lost case! Same with Nupe people and Gwari muslims of Niger state. |
sasalite:Keep waiting for the hausas. Majority of the Hausas have been brainwashed into seeing Islam as an identity and bond btw them and the fulanis. And all the Hausa elites have been heavily intermixed with fulanis, so how the hell do you want hausas to do this? A hausa man whose grandmother, mother, wives and inlaws are all fulanis, should now start fighting fulanis? Impossible na. Majority of the pure original hausas who have not mixed with the fulanis are poor, rural and illiterate! These ones cannot do jack! So just forget about Hausa people, they are a lost case! Same with Nupe people and Gwari muslims of Niger state. |
royalamour:Allign with the middlbelt or with yorubas? Do you know what you are saying at all? In 2011 election, the middlebelters/northern minorities delivered more votes to Goodluck than the yorubas did. They delivered 8 states + over 1 million votes from Southern Kaduna. How many did Igbos deliver? In 2015, Goodluck only won one yoruba state (Ekiti), but he won 4 middlebelt/northern minority areas (Plateau, Nasarawa, Taraba and FCT). heck, GEJ even got 470k votes from Southern Kaduna people in the last election, and this was more than what Abia, Bayelsa, Cross river and many other core SS/SE states gave! What on earth do you want middlebelters to do to prove themselves? |
prinsam30:The fact that you have been doing it and getting away with it does not make you right. Why do you think usage of mobile phones are prohibited in petrol stations? Be warned. |
HauteReel:Nigerian army? They have not finished defending the lives of dozens of Nigerians being slaughtered on daily basis, it is BBN they should now go after. What misplacement of priority. Besides, how does an optional TV program like BBN becomes a threat? Are people forced to watch it? |
sholey4love:Did Big Brother viewers come to you to forcefully justify the show to you? It is probably you hypocrites who have the option to ignore the show, but still choose to watch it and then try to force your own views on others. Live and let live. |
WenysAD:Really, what is wrong with some of you? I don't see how watching Big Brother will hinder someone from getting his PVC or keeping up to date with political events and governance. |
rossyc:Why are all y'u guys against the pairing? It actually makes the game more fasinating. Why do you think it is called 'doubleWahala'? |
Twoclans:What about his guitar playing, singing & rapping? ![]() Did you see when this guy was freestyling the other day? Mehn, he was so good! |
zicoraads:TeddyA is a real threat to miracle. He has a lot of fans, believe me. |
Drniyi4u:Perfect thread. This is for Hypocrites who condemn the show, but still watch in secret. |
SalamRushdie:I think you might also be making a similar mistake as 12Submarine. India has more poor people than Nigeria, make no mistake, but Nigeria has more extremely poor people. In all poverty index rankings, there is usually a difference btw the poor and extremely poor category. |
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