₦airaland Forum

TheKingIsHere:
There was a Hausa musician called zaki he normally carries touch light then when singing.

He was very famous.

Hausa people have talent too the only thing is their religion has blocked their way of thinking.

Zaki is actually a Tiv man from Benue who grew up in Hausa land. He is not hausa by origin

Sanchez01:
How you turn a thread on its head with your tribalism laced remarks is amazing.

States are 'artificial creation', yet terminologies subtly used to classify a people abound, particularly in the East, just as some other parts of the country. Or wouldn't it be better if I classify you as Wawa just to point out that you are most likely from Enugu or Ebonyi, thereby limiting the chances of your state of origin?

There is a saying mostly by the Yorubas that 'a farm cannot belong to a father and his son without defining boundaries'. States may have been artificially created, but then again, bulk of its reason is to define bothers and territories.

It might not be a big deal when an Igbo man does an exposé, claiming Igbos founded or dwelt in Southern Kaduna long before the Fulanis got into Nigeria or even before the first Hausa man was born, but it is not the same for the Urhobos/Isokos as we are not really known from running or leaving our homeland in droves. Regardless of how neighbouring the state is, it is always an area of interest for us as we are a small, though distinct group. We are not 'strollers' by nature

Who told you that Urhobos/Isokos don't migrate? Well, maybe not now, but in the past, Urhobos migrated a lot.

Do you know how many thousands of Urhobos/Isokos migrated to Jos during the colonial tin minning period? You can see famous Urhobos like Karen Igho( Big brother Africa winner) & Efe (BBNaija winner) who were born & bred in Jos.
There are many of them like that all over Jos whose parents and even grandparents were born in Jos. Many of them have already adopted Jos as their hometown, like Karen Igho whose brideprice was paid in Jos and her traditional wedding done there.

If not for the Jos crises that changed a lot of settlement patterns, there used to be a part of Jos dominated by Urhobo/Isoko people.

What about many of your people who migrated to Liberia (I think around the 80's or so)?

or those Urhobo farming communities spread all over Edo, from Ovia down to Ondo? Or is it your people that dominate places like Ajegunle in Lagos and have been settled and even naturalized there for decades.

There is a lot you need to know. Start asking.

Shankieboy:
I'm a devoted christian. I believe in Jesus And his teachings. But what I don't seem to understand is Why he hasn't changed my Sexuality. I've prayed. Threatened to harm myself, believing he'll heal me from homosexuality. But all to to no avail.

I've fasted. 5 days dry. I've been celibate for years but I still find myself attracted to members of my gender.

I'm very close to self hate because I feel disgusted with myself. I've tried to be straight. had several girlfriends but I don't seem to be sexually attracted to them. It just doesn't work.

What do I do? Please, help me. I need a miracle. I need an intervention. Else, I'll wallow in depression.

Insults are welcomed.

We Nigerians tend to take everything too religious.

Worldwide and even here in Nigeria, there are millions of people who have sexual attractions towards the same gender. Many are bisexual and many are homosexual. The only difference btw we and the western world is that people here experiencing this try as much as possible to conceal theirs because of the laws of the land.

A gay man has once made advances towards me here in Nigeria. Many others have also experienced the same like me.

Don't listen to anyone telling you that you are suffering from a demonic oppression, it is not true all the time.
There are certain hormones that determine our sexual orientations.
It could be that you have an excessive of female hormones.

The best person you could talk to is a doctor. Not a pastor. See a qualified doctor to run some tests on you in order to ascertain your hormonal levels.

Cheer up my man. You are wonderfully made. Why should something like this make you depressed?
C'mon, there are people with worse cases than yours who are living normally & happily. You'll be fine.

yeyerolling:
If only the whites had allowed mandela rule in the 1960s. SA for be lik botswana or burundi. The black man appears to be cursed

Do you think that Botswana is a terrible country? They are one of the most progressive countries in Africa if you don't know. They only have a small population.

Botswana beats Nigeria by far in terms of Human development index (HDI) which is one of the major apparatuses used in ascertaining the development of a nation.
They also beat Nigeria in income per capital. Infact I don't think I can find any development index in which Nigeria is ahead of Botswana.
Botswana has one of the lowest corruption rates in Africa.
Infact I think Botswana just like South Africa is considered a middle income economy, while Nigeria is not.
So, don't think all African countries are terrible.

Odingo1:
The people you mention are all Hausa people, all of them speak Hausa as general language.

In the West didnt you people classify Iladje,Egun and Aworis as Yorubas.

Hausa man cannot freely marry a yoruba muslim if na religion you won bring(many of them are in lagos how many of them you see near yoruba muslim women), Hausa christians cannot freely marry Igbos, fulani men also. It is only Yoruba men that don't cherish their women and if they don't do that who will do that for you guys because Igbo,hausa,fulani etc no ready leave their lovely women to look at others.

First of all, I am not a yoruba person. Cos seems like you are mistaking me for one.

Yes, most northerners speak Hausa, but that doesn't make them Hausa! Just as we speaking English does not make us English people!
Many Kanuri people may speak Hausa, but their cultures are still very different from Hausas.

Besides, most Nupes, Ilorin and Bariba people (of Kwara) do not speak Hausa as a matter of fact, yet they heavily intermarry with fulanis......
(This I think is because of the emirate bonding)

That's why I said, Hausas rarely intermarry outside the north.

Yoruba muslims of the south west seem to have too much cultural baggage (to the hausas)
However, many hausas & fulanis have marrried from Auchi (Edo north) and Kogi. I have witnessed series of this intermarriage.

Odingo1:
Fulani man never marry outside his tribe, they cherish their women, it is a thing of pride for your lovely tribe women.
I am not against Yoruba men abandoning their woman to marry Igbo ladies, but that shows that Igbo men have more class than them in valuing their women and Igbo ladies having more class than yoruba ladies for snatching what belong them in mass why they go empty handed.
Imagine Igbo men running to west to marry at the expense of Igbo women,it will be a great shame on Igbo women which are abadoned and a shame on Igbo women who don't put a smile on their woman.

@ your first paragraph. You are quite wrong about fulanis. I suspect you are a southerner, cos no northerner would make this comment.

Fulani men intermarry with other muslim northern tribes a lot (not the nomadic fulani sha).....
Fulani jihadist men largely used intermarriage to infiltrate native communities in the north.

To start with, All the fulani Emirs and Sultan in the north have hausa, nupe, yoruba e. t. c as wives, mothers, daughter- in-laws and mother in-laws. To get a clear picture.

Odingo1:
You are just consoling yourself, which kind of tribe abandon their women or keep on showing that their women are not marriageable, how many Hausa and Igbo men marry outside their tribe, what happen to Yoruba ladies that will liter everywhere, is it not a shame.
You are dancing that Yoruba men are abandoning their women and be running to east to marry,doesn't that tell you that where they are running to is better.

Actually Hausa men marry outside their tribe more than anyone else. Just that they hardly marry outside the north and outside their religion.

Majority of the rich & middle class hausa men marry fulani women and shuwa arab women cos they are very beautiful. They also marry Kanuri, Nupe, Gwari, Bauchi and other northern tribes women a lot.

psamie:
I am a freelancer on fiverr...here is a link to my profile: https://www.fiverr.com/megorwel
now, there are different level of skills for different category of jobs, it all depends on your capacity, but so far you can surf the web and basically use a PC, then you can do basic jobs on freelancing like Virtual assisting, data entry, web scrapping, etc. the freelance marketplace is very vast, if you are really interested in it, you can contact me and I will help you as much as I can.

I have a question pls do you mind to answer?

Why did you have to use a white profile? Don't people with Black African profiles have any chances of hiring opportunities on that site?

efilefun:
Freelancing had been a lifesaver for some people in naija, thou freelancing requires dedication and high level of professionalism if you must excel in it. If you think freelancing can be handled like the normal 9 - 5 thingy then you will be back to square 1 in no time. Just on nairaland i know about 5 people who are living fine with their families with funds from freelancing. Just have good knowledge in ur field and you can hit it big as a freelancer cuz people will surely keep recommending you.

Exactly. To be relevant in your field or even successful at all, you must be very very good and make the most of every opportunity you have.

post=65090617:
South Africa on my mind

AS SOUTH AFRICA SHAMED NIGERIA YET AGAIN...
Jacob Zuma, the embattled President of South Africa, has resigned. But that is not the news.

I carefully followed the events that led to Jacob Zuma's exit and the whole thing lasted less than FIVE days. Again, that is not news.

But note these:

* In the build-up to Zuma's exit, no one played the ETHNIC card. His place of birth in South Africa did NOT matter.

* Again, RELIGION was not an issue. Nobody even remembered he bore a Christian name.

* The party was more interested in saving its NAME and LEGACY, than saving Zuma.

* Zuma did not deploy police and army to seal off the venue of the ANC meeting and teargas his party members.

* There was no rented crowd at the ANC secretariat singing Zuma's praise and trolling Cyril Ramaphosa.

* It was NOT even ANC that reiterated the supremacy of the party, it was Zuma himself.

Like I wrote earlier in the week, politics is played everywhere. It can be fun and interesting. But is it played FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE SOCIETY. IT IS TO IMPROVE THE HUMAN CONDITION.

But here, ours is for the self, our family and cronies and people of our ethnic and religious backgrounds.

IN NIGERIA, IF A PRESIDENT GRABS THE GUN OF HIS POLICE ORDERLY AND SHOOTS A CITIZEN, or DOES ANY VISIBLY DESECRATING ACT SOME OF US WILL STILL DEFEND HIM.

Were it to be Nigeria, Zuma would not leave office. Never. He and his supporters could throw up all sorts of mundane excuses to remain in office.

** Do you now see why Toyota, Mazda, Daimler Chrysler, BMW, Volkswagen and so on all have Assembly plants in South Africa?

** Do you now see why they generate almost 40,000 megawatts and we are calling thanksgiving service for 7,000 megawatts?

** Do you now see why they successfully hosted the World Cup?

** Do you know why our citizens rush there?

South Africa has again showed that it is NOT about the black man. We are not intellectually inferior to the white man. Something is just fundamentally wrong with Nigeria and its LEADERSHIP MANAGEMENT.

And that thing is INSTITUTIONS. Both at governmental and non-governmental levels.

As long as we produce LEADERS that we MAKE STRONGER than our INSTITUTIONS, we will NEVER make progress!

No be curse...

How can you compare Nigeria's ethno-diversity to that of South Africa? South Africa is a country with a Black Christian majority.
Nigeria does not have any ethnic or religious majority, hence the constant divisions & opposition from the various religious and ethnic divides. We can never or hardly come to any reasonable and progressive consensus in Nigeria.

LaudateII:
In fact, I was shocked while going through this thread. In 2008, a similar thread was opened on NL, and most of the Igbo respondents on that thread either denied its' existence, or swore that the practice was dying out. I am amazed to see that 10 years later, on this same NL, people are coming out to say it is still very much alive, and they are being lukewarm about phasing it out. A few are even defending it! Wonders shall never cease!

Read all about it here: https://www.nairaland.com/23527/marry-osu/1

They are just telling lies and watering it down, it's still there, but not in all places though. .

Well, we could agree with them, that this practice is dying out cos in the past, it was worse than this.
In the past, the Osu people had seperate markets and it was even forbidden to shake hands with them or go to the stream together with them or socialize with them (as I heard).

Konquest:
^^^^^^
^^^^^^
@Sasalite

Thank you for this illuminating info in your response to
@Nowenuse on the original Kanawas, the Maguzawas and the
Hausa [Habe ruling dynasty]. I have read some things about the
Hausa Maguzawas before and after the pre-Fulani invasion of
Kano/North years back.

I had my secondary education in a Federal School in Kano
years back while living in Lagos, so I met a lot of guys in school
who are now top professionals/politicians, etc. I understand
some Hausa as well because it is easy to understand or learn.
I'm still nostalgic about my days in Kano!


1] Kindly let me know if it will still be possible for the original
Hausa [Hausawa] to have their own Sarkin Kano again?

2] Did you know that Gen. Murtala Mohammed's father is originally
a Birom from Jos South? It was when he converted to Islam
in Jos that he had to leave because it was a taboo in Birom
culture and he came to Kano. I read this information in a copy
of The SUN in 2004. I still have the interview that the Journalist
had with the extended family members of Gen. Murtala's father in Jos
and they said the fathers land is still in Jos for them to come
and inherit.

3] Are the Yakassai family in Kano who are of Jukun origin
considered to be Hausa people now?

4] Can you confirm if it is true that Gen. IBB and his cousin
Gen. Abdulsalam Abubakar' ancestors originally came from
Kano and moved to Niger State. I saw this documentary
on TV over 10 years ago where this was stated.



Kano - "Kanawan Dabo"!
"Kanawan Dabo" [means "Real Hausa From Kano"]


All the best!

2) Yes, there are rumours that Murtala's father was a Birom man from Plateau who converted to islam and relocated. No credible sources has confirmed any of this especially from his own immediate family.
Some rumours also claim Murtala's father is from Auchi, Edo state. His mother is actually proven to be from there, but that of his father being from Edo has not been proven.


3) Kwararafa (led by the Jukuns) was once a great kingdom which conquered parts of Hausa land. Kano was once under Jukun control. So, many Kano people have jukun ancestry.
So, I don't know if the Yakassai were of the older Jukun settlements in Kano, or were later migrants.

Kano (as well as the entire Hausaland) and Bauchi are places that accept anyone as long as you have a pure islamic/hausa name, you are a muslim and you speak Hausa language fluently.
Ibrahim Shekarau (former governor of Kano) was ancestrally a Bura man from Borno.
Sabo Bakin Zuwo (former governor of Kano) was of Nupe origin from Bida.

I have relatives from Plateau state who have indigeneship certificates for Kano, Bauchi & Katsina and even receive yearly bursary embursements in school. Just because they are muslims.


4) IBB & Abdulsalami. are both most likely of Hausa-fulani origin (from Sokoto state). But maternally, they are of gbagyi origin.

Niger state was together with Sokoto, Zamfara & Kebbi as one state for some time, and many Hausa fulanis migrated into Niger areas.
Infact, this migration has began long before now.

Most Niger state indigenes know this, but because many of them are muslims, they say nothing about it (in the name of islamic bond).
Niger state has for long been heavily infiltrated by Hausa fulanis through intermarriage.

Konquest:
^^^^^^
^^^^^^
@Sasalite

Thank you for this illuminating info in your response to
@Nowenuse on the original Kanawas, the Maguzawas and the
Hausa [Habe ruling dynasty]. I have read some things about the
Hausa Maguzawas before and after the pre-Fulani invasion of
Kano/North years back.

I had my secondary education in a Federal School in Kano
years back while living in Lagos, so I met a lot of guys in school
who are now top professionals/politicians, etc. I understand
some Hausa as well because it is easy to understand or learn.
I'm still nostalgic about my days in Kano!


1] Kindly let me know if it will still be possible for the original
Hausa [Hausawa] to have their own Sarkin Kano again?

2] Did you know that Gen. Murtala Mohammed's father is originally
a Birom from Jos South? It was when he converted to Islam
in Jos that he had to leave because it was a taboo in Birom
culture and he came to Kano. I read this information in a copy
of The SUN in 2004. I still have the interview that the Journalist
had with the extended family members of Gen. Murtala's father in Jos
and they said the fathers land is still in Jos for them to come
and inherit.

3] Are the Yakassai family in Kano who are of Jukun origin
considered to be Hausa people now?

4] Can you confirm if it is true that Gen. IBB and his cousin
Gen. Abdulsalam Abubakar' ancestors originally came from
Kano and moved to Niger State. I saw this documentary
on TV over 10 years ago where this was stated.



Kano - "Kanawan Dabo"!
"Kanawan Dabo" [means "Real Hausa From Kano"]


All the best!

1) It would be impossible for Kano to ever have a Hausa Sarki anymore.
Except under these conditions;

> A very strong group of pro pre-danfodio Hausa identity start up with both a strong militant & enlightened members support base and are able to win more & more indigenous Hausas to their cause. It has to be a strong ideology. And it has to start from Hausa muslims themselves.

(Now, the large illiteracy in Hausa land is a big setback factor to this kind of struggle). Cos, it is easier to brainwash illiterates with religion, as the fulani elites have succesfully done with the Hausa masses.

Why do you think the fulani elites have denied the Hausa masses quality western education? ....... Cos the day the Hausa masses receive quality education and high social standard, they will begin to ask questions. And this will most likely lead to a revolution as many anti-fulani school of thoughts will spring up.

> 2ndly, the middlebelt and south will largely work towards the reduction of the influence of the caliphate, first of all by removing all northern minorities from the influence of the caliphate and cutting the fulani oligarchy into size.
Now, this 2nd option will hardly ever succeed, as it may lead to a full scale war of religion. Fulani elites are masters of using and manipulating religion to their cause. They will easily manipulate the illiterate hausa masses and other muslim masses to see this as a war against islam, rather than a war against fulani oligarchy.

So, any war to lliberate Hausa land must start from within and literacy is the first step.

Konquest:
^^^^^^
^^^^^^
@Nowenuse

Thanks for this very brilliant post...

Look at the Gbagyis or Gwaris who are the indigenes
are Abuja who are now being margnalised in their
land and some emir has been installed. I saw them
protesting massively on AIT this year. They do not
even have representation in the Senate or the National
assembly as of 2018. Even the citizens of Washington DC
have representation in their National Assembly.


The British have already left Nigeria since 1960
but they created the disaster of indirect rule by
using the Fulani to collect taxes as part of their
global imperialistic agenda.


If British colonial rule has ended in much
of Africa, it is time for the indigenous
ethnicities of the areas in Nigeria where you
have Fulani/mixed-blood Fulani rulers over a majority
population of indigenous people like in Ilorin, Kano
[as of 2018] to end!


It was the military rule that helped to prob-up
the Fulani rulership after 1960 but it has to end this
century in all of old Norther Region.

The Justice Ekundayo Panel Report stated that the Yoruba
should have their Oba in Ilorin, but the military
did not implement it.


Funnily the British through the British Governor of Lagos also acknowledged
that Ilorin is a Yoruba town and should be merged with their
kith and kin in the West of Nigeria, but Sir George Goldie said
the Ilorin is within his area of trading influence. This is how
the British arbitrarilly governed Nigeria in a shambolic manner
and left people scattered.

You are correct.

However, I think, Gbagyis of FCT have a senator, in the person of Sen. Philip Aduda. But that guy is just nothing but a disgrace to me, cos I cannot see anything reasonable that he has done to better the lives and secure the interests of his people. See how fat he is, just embezzling funds. And the most annoying part of it is that he is serving his 3rd term now. His people just keep on voting him cos he is a gbagyi man and most times, he is the only Gbagyi contestant for that position.


The case of Ilorin and millions of yorubas in Kwara & Kogi being added to northern population (with which the Hausa-fulani politicians use to boast of 19 northern states is just very embarrassing).
Sometimes I wonder whether these Fulani elites are using juju for we southerners & middlebelters. How can these people just be intimidating and holding all the rest of us ransome?......
Sometimes I feel our education is useless towards these people.
Our own leaders sold us to these people cos of peanuts, fear & cowardice.

I sincerely hope our own generation would be able to rectify and put an end to all these.

JikanBaura:
Cristian culture, What culture does Christians have? Is it the British language you adopted or the western cloth, you called cristian culture. Christians never wears cloth or speaks the western language you called cristian culture. Jesus never speaks English, wear English cloth or own a church.

Whether tribes around hausa maintain their identity or don't we hausa will remind them who they are. We don't plan to absorb any tribe that's why said nobody should claim us just because they can speak our language. Like the other fraud called satellite who said he is Christian but at thesame time claim to be Hausa Maguzawa (pagan hausa) claiming two religion who is he fooling.

Him and other northern Christians like you manage to avoid Islamic religion for you perceived it as (Hausa religion) , You failed to avoid Hausa language. (You aren't a real hater)

Talking about culture and religion. Your people have for long bieng forced to dump their language, Pagansm religion in exchange for western civilization and unfortunately for you in the next
50 years from now their will be a total extinction of your tribe languages , Cultures In favor of western civilization, in years to come you will be no different from you distance cousins in America and Britain that were taken for slavery and lost everything about their culture, language.

Anyway Hausa and English had already made other northern language obsolete. I'm proud Hausa whom have keep his culture and language whereever im today and so will always brag about it

Absolute nonsense. You just type any trash that comes into your head as I have observed. You lack coherent cognition.

There is only 1 point I am going to respond to in your speech cos the others are trash.

See, our people never chose Hausa language to be imposed on us, it was done by the British in connivance with the fulani emirs because they wanted a unified administrative region.

The christian missionaries who came to the middlebelt (Plateau, Taraba, Southern kaduna axis specifically) and saw how ethnically diverse the people were, they wanted to use NGAS LANGUAGE (one of the major languages in Plateau state) , as the sole language for evangelism. This was because the Sudan united missionaries first landed in Pankshin and had learnt Ngas and first translated the English bible to Ngas.

There was an Ngas bible first before a Hausa bible existed.

Had it been that the British allowed this evangelism with Ngas language, by now, almost all northern christians would have been speaking Ngas language by now and would have been heavily united as one people.

Cos, prior to christianity, Plateau people and most northern christian tribes never spoke hausa. Christianity was what brought about the use of Hausa language.

This was exactly what the British wanted to avoid. They did not want to have 2 large major ethnic groups in their monolithic north, as it would affect their administrative convenience of indirect rule.

It was a pure British handwork. Cos fulani jihadists were defeated and disgraced by Plateau tribes and many other northern christian tribes during Danfodio's spread of islam.

Cc sasalite, konquest, Dirkcoyt

Dirkcoyt:
I'm not from the north but served there, zuru to be precise.

Now , I repeat ! no Christian zuru(darkrakari) man loves a Muslim Hausa man, even the love between a Muslim zuru man and Christian zuru man is shaky.
A town under zuru emirate called wasagu is evenly shared between the Muslim and the Christian, the Christian are mostly found around tundunwada. this area is the only place to find the only two churches in the town namely catholic and YMCA.

The pagan zuru men are still found around , hey walk in leather short around their waist, largely uneducated with only farm labourers as work.
the zuru people are largely shortchanged in kebbi state due to their large Christian population despite having big wig military men.

Their is no love between a Muslim and Christian as far as zuru people is concerned what you see is fake friendship.
To me, zuru people are of middlebelt stock. zuru people are good people. And the Christian don't joke with their religion despite torment. I've seen a teacher denies promotion cause he's a Christian in zuru, I've seen student not given aviation slot in zuru because he's David and not Ibrahim. zuru people I love you and I pray you realize you dream.

You are very correct.

Zuru people are supposed to be in Niger state. As a matter of fact, there were under Niger province during the colonial period.
Some Zurus are still in Niger & some in Zamfara.

During the division of the old north-western state into Sokoto & Niger states. Sokoto was meant for Hausas while Niger was meant for the minorities. As usual, Hausa-fulanis cheated the minorities and today they have Zamfara & Kebbi states from Old Sokoto state and they carved some Niger state minorities into Kebbi & Zamfara south in order to make the states bigger in population.

This is why Zuru people alongside other Kainji speaking tribes like Kambari, Dukawa, Shingini, Kadara & Kamuku in both Kebbi south & Niger north have been fighting for their own Kainji state. This state was recommended for creation in the 2014 national confab.

The past generations were completely deceived, this our generation are getting wiser and we must change a lot of things.

mtis:
The idea is just ignore them ....The funny part is where some have evolved to Nowenuse 2.0 .its a pity .

Bia, see, you and your idiotic sister TashaMaria or TayserMahiri or whatever, should stop mentioning my name, you hear?

Why can't you guys stop masturbating over Nigerians and Nigerian affairs?

I wonder why many foolish Nigerians are surprised or reacting to this. Is this new?
Do you think fulanis were joking when they called Nigeria the estate of their greatgrand father Uthman Danfodio?

Nigeria is a fulani estate, the earlier you recognize this and plan on how you can liberate your future generations from this madness, the better for you.

I am from the middlebelt but I pity my fellow middlebelters & Southerners who still believe in this charade called One Nigeria together with Hausa-fulani people. These people are the most evil people of the black race. They deserve their own country like Somalia where they can self destruct.

Gideon Orkar saw all these and that was why he wanted to cut off these Hausa fulanis from Nigeria and merge them with Niger republic. Unfortunately, good plans don't succeed most times.

HeyCorleone:
How do you mean there are more immoral? I've been getting such references and I'm surprised. Lol. It's self righteousness to say Ghana and SA are immoral than Nigeria. What do they do that we don't? Just name one thing? Or is it because were hypocritical? The girl who gives a Mouth Gig on Saturday night would take front row in Choir on Sunday morning. That is why we are not as immoral?

Please.

Make we dey talk truth at times.



Nigeria is just as Rotten.

You are very correct.

Nigeria is as immoral as anywhere else, only that we cover ours with strong hypocrisy while others do not hide theirs.

freshboi88:
I don't c catholic churches arranging programs, talk and seminars on valentine . which denomination is known for that??

Empredboy:
which love do you celebrate? what do u know about St Valentine? let me remind you he was like other saints like like St Louis. why don't you celebrate St Anthony of padua or St Peter? these saints are the pillars of the church but you guys are accusing the church of idolatry yet you remember 14 feb of every year. why not remember August 8 the feast of St Dominic?

The truth is that most pentecostals do not even know the origin of Valentine celebration. They think it is just a typical holiday of western origin.

CAPSLOCKED:

YOU DON'T FIND OTHER RELIGIONS BEATING EACH OTHER UP LIKE THIS.

YOU KNOW WHY?


CHRISTIANITY IS THE MOST CONTRADICTORY RELIGION.

HOW CAN YOU BLAME THE CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION FOR NOT AGREEING ON A THING TOGETHER, WHEN EVEN THE GOSPEL WRITERS COULDN'T AGREE ON THE STORY OF JESUS.

ALL OF THEM HAVE CONTRADICTORY ACCOUNTS FOR THAT. FUNNY ENOUGH LUKE ALONE CONTRADICTS HIS OWN SELF WITH DISAGREEING STATEMENTS IN HIS BOOK, JUST FEW VERSES APART


ABEG JUST LEAVE CHRISTIANS ALONE WHEN THEY'RE NOT SPEWING THEIR POISON ON YOUR FACE.

At least, Christians are not killing each other till date, unlike Shia & Sunni muslim sectarian differences.

JikanBaura:
The reason why hausa people are estimated to be 70 Million people are your kind whom have lost their culture and language infavor of Hausa. You are not Hausa you are just a fraud who has no history or culture and tribe tO call his so. This serves as consequences that we will forever faced for accommodating and having other tribes embrace our language. Every piece of shit will be wanting to claim our tribe just because he/she speaks our language.

Hausawa we knows ourselves , hide your true identity behind screen lieying to be hausa, foolish you don't know you are disgracing yourself. The rubbish you type exposed you , No hausa will read what you wrote and be convinced you are Hausa.

You are cristian and you are claiming to be Bamaguje bloody liar, Hausa Muslims will never call a cristian bamaguje, The Word Maguzawa refers to the Hausa pagans and them alone .Even if you a pagan or Christian you don't falls under Maguzawa but Arna. Hausa calls people arna(group) arne(m) arniya(f) to not only show he is none muslim but to also show disdain that he is not from the hausa tribe. Even a Hausa cristian should only be call a Kirista. You will have to be Hausa by tribe plus followed hausa paganism for you to be term Bamaguje.

You commenteds shows you are not Hausa. Because a bamaguje knows that nobody on this earth loves him more than his Hausa brothers, because they don't discriminate against him and will always be on his side as long as his not quelty. If maguzawa still exist today it's because Islam was never impose on them.

And unlike cristian and fraud . The maguzawa nevers sees fulani or hausa as their enemies because they are the people they grown up and live with. Heck not even a christian dakarkari tribemen will sees Hausa or fulani as his enemy because of the love and respect they between. Said you are hoping to acclaim you tribemen into light of Cristianity.

Said you still have pagans but you are hoping and working hard to see them saved so as to salvage Wat is left of tribemen. Who are your tribemen that you are hoping of rescuing and how do you intend to save them?, from what/who do you want to save them? Shameless

You are just saying rubbish.

There is no group of christians in the north, whether maguzawa, dakarkari, marghi, kataf, tangale or whatever, who sees hausa muslims as their brothers!

We used to do so in the past, but not now that our eyes have been open to the evil and satanic agenda of you Hausa-fulani muslims. Nonsense!

Also, make no mistake and don't brag rubbish here. Hausa-fulanis have and can never absorb any christian group in the north. The only group of people that Hausas have culturally absorbed are the Bauchi muslims.
There is no way any christian community or any tribe that has christian population in the north can be absorbed by Hausa. Hausa islamic culture and christian culture cannot mix! They are not mixable.


Why have Southern Kaduna people not been absorbed? Why have Zuru people not been absorbed in Kebbi & Zamfara? Why have Kurama people in Kano not been absorbed? Why have the Sayawa and other christian tribes in Bauchi south not been absorbed? These are people who share boundary with Hausa land, yet they have still maintainned their identity, culture & languages.

peterphd:
Are you tiv from benue? Could you suggest some historic resources for perusal?

No, I am from Plateau.
Hmmm, not at the moment. Google is always your friend, you can search whatever topic you are interested in about history. That was the way I stumbled upon a lot of the rescources which helped to enlighten me.

I have lost my list of historical archived e-documents and bookmarks.

sasalite:
I will try my best to answer your questions

1) Not all Maguzawa are Christians, we still have pagan Hausas till tomorrow, but we are praying, working and hoping to see them saved so as to salvage what is left of our tribemen. Hausa Muslims are mostly mixed with other tribes like the Baburawa, Margi, Nupe, e.t.c. For those, the Hausa culture is the same as Islamic culture. But there are few pure Hausa muslims left who still take pride in their Hausa heritage.

2) Yes, Masihiyawa remains the mother-body for Christians of Hausa, Fulani and Kanuri extract. But if you are interested in the number for only pure Hausa Christians then 85% of Masihiyawa membership will be the figure. The Fulanis and Kanuris will cover 10% while 5% goes to other tribes who join in disguise as Hausas just for future benefits. But we know them by mere looking, its in the blood. In total, the Hausa tribe is estimated to be above 70 million all over Africa and only about 5% are non muslims publicly (There are hidden Christians among the "Muslims" out of fear of death). Hausa Christians cover about 85% of the non muslim Hausas. But this is a rough estimate based on my own personal knowledge of my people. The real figures may differ.

3) I can only tell you of local government areas in Kano state where Hausa Christians are concentrated, these includes Tudun Wada, Doguwa, Sumaila, Rogo, Takai, Rano and Bebeji (Southern Kano). There is something about North and South in this world.

4) Yes, we are indeed heavily discriminated against in our respective home states; most of our muslim tribesmen see us as the painful truth about Islam's failure to completely wipe out the Hausa culture and change our history to suit Islam. While I was in ABU Zaria, a lecturer in my department upon discovering I was a Christian told me to my face that " You are a virus in Kano state, and we will make sure the state is cured". The discrimination is worst than you think for us because they see us as a disgrace.

5) Most muslims use the name "Maguzawa" as an insult to any Hausa person who rejects Islam. Personally, am not offended by the name because YES, I REJECT ISLAM AND WILL FOREVER DO SO BECAUSE I HAVE FOUND THE TRUTH. My ancestors were right when they rejected Islam and paved the way for us to find Christ easily. This has been my family's legacy and it will not fail in my time.

And to add some information, the Maguzawas also have a name for Hausa Muslims which depicts how we view them, the name is "Nasili". It depicts a lazy, dirty, hypocrite who is a thief and has lost the honor, trustworthiness, humility, courtesy and integrity of the original Hausa man.

Ok, thanks for the response. At least it has helped me to get a better picture.

Lastly, I'd like to ask.
1) Are there any influential Maguzawa hausa people in Nigeria? In Kano, or anywhere? If yes, pls I'd like to know their names and their positions.

2) Also, I heard of many Kurama speaking christian communities in Kano (Southern Kano) precisely. These communities are supposedly a spill over of Kurama areas in neighbouring Kaduna, Plateau & Bauchi states. Do you know about them? If yes, do you have an idea of their population and how they identify themselves and how they relate with your own people and the muslim majority of the state?

3) Among those Kano LGAs which you mentioned where your people are concentrated, are there any of them dominated by your maguzawa people? Do your people occupy any political positions? If yes which pls.

Expect a PM from me also.

stuntman007:
you are right bro. it actually explains the state of our NTA today. I weep each time I watch that channel.

I get utterly embarrassed whenever I see NTA. And what surprises me and makes me more angry is that my father still insists on watching it, believing that they are the best, as that was what they grew up watching in their generation.
This and more makes me see my father's generation as a people who supported mediocrity.

PrecisionFx:
The middle belt as region. They were active Sai Baba chanters 2014/2015.

What about the yorubas (your fellow southerners) ? Only in Ekiti state did GEJ win, but remember that he won Plateau, Nasarawa, Taraba & FCT + 470k votes from Southern Kaduna.
How many votes did Abia state produce? 380k
What about Bayelsa, Ebonyi & Cross River? Are you not ashamed that Southern Kaduna delivered more votes to GEJ than Abia state (with almighty Aba city)?

What about in 2011 when the middlebelt and northern minorities delivered 8 states to GEJ and 1.2 million votes from Southern Kaduna?
Where were you?

MDsambo:
Where did you get your statics from?

FYI, one of the oldest market in Kano is dated back 600yrs ago. Northerners are farmers, traders etc since day 1. During the pre colonial era, your ancestor were living in the jungle going around naked with no means of transportation. You should thank God for the colonial rulers for they're the ones that show you the light of civlization, that's why you guys hav no cultural heritage you're totally westernize.

See this Arabized abokii. Your people no longer answer any tribal names and you have the guts to call another person westernized?
Many hausas now even think that Mohammed & Fatima are hausa names. All the traditional hausa & fulani names are gone! Trying to be more arabic than the arabs. How laughable!

Go to north africa and many other progressive core arabic countries and see how liberal they are. Yet some black imbeciles here in northern Nigeria will tell you that hijab, niqab, burqa & jallabiya are hausa cultures. What foolishness... Go and see how western-educated and civilized people are in Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan e.t.c, but the black imbeciles in northern Nigeria will tell you that almajiri is their culture. Shamelessness!

buchilino:
CONGRATS 2 HIM. I WONDER WAT DOSE EAST AFRICANS EAT DAT MAKES DEM RUN 4 HOURS

It's a genetic thing. Just like we west africans have the best genetics for short distance race.

Check all the short distance races all over the world. People of west african descent always dominate. If not a west African, A Jamaican, Black American or other blacks of west African origin.

Can't you see how black americans are dominating whites in sports in the US and how our west african footballers succeed overseas? How many International east african footballers have you heard of?

So everyone has his own talent.

TheKingIsHere:
Well said. For the records, am not yoruba but i love history a lot. Thats why it pains me alot when i see some people trying to twist history.

It is obvious you know the history of Northern Nigeria very well.

Why dont you make a thread on it to enlighten more people about it.

This will really go a long way to educate people on Nairaland.

@ Lalasticalal and Mynd44 please lets try to dedicate thursdays for History about our country, culture and people. It will help a lot of uninformed people here.

I also want to appeal to @ explorers to help in creating more history threads to educate a lot of people, since history has been codedly removed from schools, we can teach ourselves online.

Thanks.

Even If we start creating history threads, they will not make front page. I think I was doing this at a particular time in the past.
Unless news headlines come like this where we can discuss history, other options are difficult.

sasalite:
Yes, am among the pure blood Hausas whose ancestors resisted Islam under pain of death from Danfodio and Ahmadu Bello's Islamasition movements. This resistance was passed from one generation to another with the aim of preserving the original Hausa Culture and Traditions.
I see the middle belt as the key to the liberation of the Hausa land because the Hausas are way too comfortable with their gradual disappearance. Hausas with my kind of opinion are too few and weak to effect the corrections but an alliance with a united Middle belt can get the job done. This is because even if the Middle belt region should liberate itself, so long as the Sokoto sultanate and their puppet Amirs remain, the victory remains halfway. Full victory requires total undoing of Dan Fodio's mess. Hausa Kings (Haɓe) are better than the Amirs any day. The Middle belt region has power beyond what I can say but they are too divided, that is why the Fulanis will try to decimate them ASAP before another Kwararrafa emerges that is sure to address the current nonsense. Wake up Middle belt, Unite under one banner, set your cause and correct history's mistakes.

I strongly belive what you say, but the problem here is nothing but Islam.

Islam is like a political ideology that destroys people's cultural beliefs and make them see their religion as their primary identity...... Although, there is a moderate kind of islam which also values culture.....

However, majority of the Hausas and about half of the middlebelt muslims practice the former kind of islam. So, it would be practically impossible to liberate these kind of people who have been completely brainwashed by religion.

I was an administrator and leader in the largest online middlebelt group, and you need to see how so many middlebelt muslims from Kwara, Niger and even Kogi & Nasarawa reject the middlebelt idea and are full Arewa apologist and pro-caliphate.
These people are the ones who have and who will always sabotage any efforts made by the middlebelt. They prefer to have a common arewa identity on the basis of islam with hausa-fulanis. So, currently, I no longer believe in a united middlebelt struggle with these people. Those of us who are anti-caliphate, we need to find another identity and struggle to pursue.

I was in a Nupe online group one time and you need to see the way these Nupe muslims were arguing with themselves. Some were saying that there is no need for tribal names anymore, that tribal names are of pagan origin and only islamic names are right. ....Some were against it though. ......Although, the situation of Nupe and other middlebelt muslims is not as worse as that of Hausa muslims, cos hardly will you find a hausa muslim who believes in tribal names, but many Nupe muslims still believe in tribal names. ......But for the fact that arguing against tribal names was even a subject of contention, this shows you how far this pro caliphate mentality has eaten into middlebelt muslims. At least half of them are pro-caliphate. The remaining ones who are not necessarily pro-caliphate, however remain quite apologetic to the caliphate just like yoruba muslims and see no need for a unique middlebellt identity. The liberal middlebelt muslims who manage to believe in a middlebelt identity do not believe that our middlebelt identity should be anti-arewa.


So, just forget it. Only through a full scale war can Hausa land ever be redeemed. Cos even the middlebelt has lost Niger state (where most of them are almost no different and are led by Fulani muslims).

If we from Benue, Plateau, Taraba, FCT, Nasarawa and Southern Kaduna and parts of Adamawa come together and completely liberate ourselves from Arewa grip, the only people we can further liberate are parts of Adamawa and Southern Borno and perhaps southern kebbi and Niger state (Kainji axis) who are christian majority, but are still under fulani grip. .... .

Any group of people who are predominantly muslims are a lost case. Unless the resistance will start from within, it would be deemed as a full scale invasion/war.