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Naajjii:
Pls post them but another thing how credible is the list , is it edited or not because I don't trust you and am not still convinced you are not an Igbo man. I can only analyse the list if it is proven that you are not a Nyamiri.

Are u such a block brain? You can go and download the list for yourself if you think I am editing mine.

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Naajjii:
You are Igala !! go and tell that to your Igala Muslims brothers if they won't silence you. You have given reason why Muslims have more population because they marry more wives and early marriage Does it matter if they marry more wives or not . What matters is who is wether you marry more wives or not is not the issue, if you like go and marry more.

Stop being a stark ignoramus.
The fact that muslims in Plateau marry more wives, does that still make them a majority in Plateau state?

Naajjii:
Look at this criminal using google map and using ration 4 : 1 ha ha. Way dont you present all the candidate lists in all Igalaland, why did you select some areas and leave others?

Stop talking like an ignoramus. I was only giving an example with the LGAs I posted from Igala land!

If u want the entire Igala land I can post them and we do the calculations. Are you in?

senatordave1:
The percentage of the largest tribe in a state should not matter.because you they are not up to 50%,you now want to lump up different christian dominated tribes to displace them? Someone said you use fraudulent parameters and you are not proving him wrong.be consistent.

Of course! If all Adamawa tribes (since they are predominantly Christian) unite based on religion against the Fulanis, then they are the clear majority and they can do whatever they like to the Fulanis!

This was the same way all other Plateau tribes united against the Beroms in 2015 elections to vote APC and the Beroms lost woefully.
It's simple logic.

You claim Muslims are 80% in niger but now trying to whittle down their population by extricating borgu and even claiming niger east is christian majority.
Hausas cannot be 10% of niger if they are so dominant in niger politics

Muslims are not up to 80% in Niger state. It is more like 65-70%.

Itsekiris are not up to 10% of Delta state's population, yet they are very influential in the state's politics and have produced a governor for 8 years. There are certain criteria that promote certain things.

Yes! Niger east either has slightly more Christians than muslims or at most a 50-50.

David Umaru would have never won elections as a senator of Niger east if the zone was Muslim majority. Have u ever seen anywhere that was muslim majority and they voted for a Christian leader?

I was separating Borgu & Nupe from others in Niger state cos they are not the same people, they are very different people.
It is the same way Southern Kaduna people & Zaria people can be very well and will always be separate people even if they share the same state!

senatordave1:
Stop dragging us backwards to conflicting grounds.i have told you that religious houses or google maps is not a good parameter for measuring religious percentage.you even contradict yourself by wanting to use numbe of churches to measure but fail to use preponderance of names and politicians also.you have to be consistent no matter the and result

Since Nigeria does not have religious census, we have to manage the only clues that we have and as far as am concerned, the number of religious houses in Google maps and list of politcal contenders of a place are a very very good clue.

Why are there more mosques than churches in Sokoto and more churches than mosques in Port Harcourt?

Why are the more muslim political contenders in Katsina and more Christian political contenders in Anambra?

Naajjii:
This is why i see you as fraudulent, you create statistic to suit you, you claim politics can not be used to measure religion strenght yet you are referencing us to election materials from kogi state. Those christians in the lists you presented are 2% that reflected the percentage of christians in Ebira land not 20% you fraudulently assumed.

You are obviously blind!

Out of the 57 candidates in the Ebira list I posted 20 of them had at least one English/Christian name and like I said not all Kogi Christians have Christian names, some of them answer tribal and Muslim names too just as we are seeing people's names like KABIR GLORIA, USMAN JOSEPH on this list!

Go and wear your reading glasses and scan those names again.

Yes, I said politics cannot be used to judge for religious percentage of a place especially in the north. Igalas and to an extent Ebiras do not play politics based on religion just like the Yorubas who are their neighbors.
Igalas & Ebiras share more in common with Yorubas than they do with Hausa fulani muslims.

However, politics can still help to give the clue of what a place looks like same way Google maps showing religious houses can also give a clue. Only difference is that the number of religious houses favour Christians more while politics favours muslims more. Simple! And that is why I brought about the ratio system.

4 churches : 1 mosque. & 6 muslim contestants: 3 Christian contestants.

scholes0:
Oga Ebira christians are very visible.

I was under that same impression before that Ebira christians were a tiny minority, now I know better.

Ebira christians are at least 30%

Thank you for learning. Ebira Christians are 30-35%. People think Ebira is entirely muslim because of Okene town. Okene LGA is overwhelmingly muslim (like 80-90%). However, outside Okene, almost every other Ebira town or villages is 50-50 or predominantly Christian.

Go to Obehira, Ihima, Okengwe, Ajaokuta, Ogaminana e.t.c and see Christian outnumber muslims in some areas.


It is Ebira Koto (Egbura) people in Koton Karfe, Abaji (FCT) & Toto (Nasarawa) that are entirely muslims (over 90%).


As for Igalas, you and Senatordave1 claim that muslims are more in Igala land.

I will use 2 methods to disprove this for you people.
1) Let us use Google maps to check all the Igala towns and let us see the number of churches and mosques.
I know Christians tend to build more churches than muslims build mosques and that is why we are going to use the ratio of 4 churches: 1 mosque.

2) Even though Muslims play politics more than Christians, check below and see the INEC list of political contestants for house of assembly in Igala land. I can post the list for all Igala state constituencies let us see.
And mind u, many Kogi Christians answer names that can pass as Muslim names and Muslims also play politics more than christians, so we can use the ratio of 5 muslim names: 1 Christian name in order to get a better picture of the religious percentage of these places.

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senatordave1:
When did michika become an ethnicity? Even if so,it is unarguable that the fulanis are the most numerous ethnicity in adamawa followed by the bachamas.why do you like conjuring or faking facts to suit your narrow views?
Do you also want to claim that Muslims are not the clear majority in niger? Are the gwandaras of nasarawa not mainly Muslim? Are the wase fulanis and the yorubas of kwara not mainly Muslims?

Michika is the generic name for Higgi (Kamwe) people who make up 98% of the indigenous population of Michika LGA.

Yes, fulanis are the largest ethnic group in Adamawa state, but they are 20% of the state!

Same way Beroms are the largest ethnic group in Plateau state and also make up 20% of the population!


Niger state is muslim majority of course, why will I argue this? However, muslim majority in Niger state is because of the Nupes & Borgu people (they are 80% muslims).

However Niger east (Gbagyis, Kamukus, Koros & Kadaras) are 65% christian while Niger north (Kambaris & Dukawa minus Borgu) are 50-50.

But Hausa fulani settlers in Niger east & Niger north gives muslims 10% additional population.


FYI, Gwandaras are 50-50. Gwandaras in Lafia & Nasarawa LGAs are predominantly muslims with significant Christian minority. Gwandaras in Kokona are almost entirely christian. Those in Karu & FCT are Muslim majority and those in Southern Kaduna are Christian majority


Also replace Bachama with BWATIYE as the 2nd largest ethnic group in Adamawa state.
Bwaitye is Bachama & Batta combined and Mbula to an extent. They speak same language.

Cos if u say only Bachama without Batta & Mbula, it will be impossible for them to outnumber Higgis, Kilbas & Chamba people.

Naajjii:
Ha ha Igbo man, this is how you keep spreading lies , where did you get all you just stated, imagine Ebira people that christians are not even visible you stated that outside Okene then everywhere is christians. This is the reason why i dont always enagage you with facts ,that is why i always call you out as an impostor hiding under middlebelt, just come out fully with your igbo man identity then i will engage you better but as long as you hide to create mischief i will always call you out.
In Nigeria its obvious those crying of Marginalization everyday, between CAN AND NSCIA who do you see crying of Islamisation. Have you ever seen any muslim cried of Christianisation in this Country? That sums up your minority status in Nigeria. Minority will always cry and keep crying.

Oga are you mistaking Ebira Koto (Egbura) for Ebira tao?
Ebira Koto (Egbura) people are entirely Muslims. I have never seen an Egbura Christian in my life all through my years of being an administrator of the largest middlebelt forums online and meeting thousands of middlebelters from different areas.

However, that is not the case for Ebira tao (Kogi central)! At least 30-35% of Ebira tao are Christians. Natasha Akpoti who is terrorizing Gov Bello for dominance of Kogi central, is she not a Christian?

Look below at the INEC list for contestants of house of reps from Okehi, Ajaokuta & Adavi LGAs. Can u see the number of Christian names on the list? Even Okene that is overwhelmingly muslim, there are still Christians there like 20% and u can still see Christian names contesting politically.
This is in spite of the fact that muslims play politics and contest more than Christians!

So can u tell the world how manage Christians are contesting elections all over Ebira land if they are non-existent there? You Hausa fulanis don't know anything about the Middlebelt, you just make unnecessary noise.

abduljabbar4:
There is a reason why I singled out those areas. Forget about your audio experience, I was born in Zaria and as I am typing this post, I am sitting in my room observing the lockdown order near PZ. I studied in ABU, and had a great number of coursemates who lived around Shika, Samaru, Palladan and Yan Goro and so on.

In case you don't know, most of the Christians within those areas are nothing but settlers (I dont know about Wusasa). It has been a muslim area for hundreds of years and that is why they still have titles like "Sarkin Samaru"

Of course we all know that majority of the Christians who live in Zaria are settlers. Most of them are from Southern Kaduna, Igbos and other Northern christians. However, there are still very many Indigenous Zaria Hausa Christians and other Hausa Christians from Kano & Katsina. Like half of the Christians in Wusasa are indigenous Zaria Christians.

Besides, Sarkin Samaru or Sarkin Wusasa is not an evidence for a place being Muslim land or even Hausa land. Before 2001, were most of Southern Kaduna lands not having Hausa fulani Sarkis & Emirs as their traditional heads? Till now is there no Sarkin Saminaka? Is Saminaka a Hausa land or Muslim land? When it is surrounded by dozens of Kurama towns & villages?
It seems like you forgot that a system of indirect rule with the Emirates & Sultanate was used all over Northern Nigeria from the colonial era.

Make your research about the election results within that axis. Has PDP ever come close to CPC/APC within those areas? (Whether you like it or not, the voting patterns of Muslims and Christians always differ. Malali is predominately dominated by Muslims but when you check Unguwan Gado and Mando, the only areas dominated by Christians in Kaduna north, you would see that PDP always wins by a wide margin.)

Noise making (as you hilariously stated) does not in anyway make some people to appear larger in number. Take a trip to Samaru because you have obviously never been there before and make a rough population sample in your head. Go to Kasuwan Samaru and make a random sample of the sellers and buyers there. You will laugh at your ignorance.

As for your claims about Sabon Gari and Wusasa, I can only laugh. Look for anyone genuinely living in Zaria and say that to him. By God, that person would laugh in your face. Sabon gari for that matter! somewhere

You know what's funny about those churches you displayed? Even if you check Malali and Unguwan Rimi, they are everywhere and yet you can't even compare them with the number of Muslims there. If all the Mosques and open fields where Muslims prayed in Zamaru were to be displayed on that map, you would probably not be able to see anything but dots on your screen.

Point of correction. Ungwan Gado & Mando are not the only Christian dominated areas in Kaduna city north. What about Kabala west & Kurmin Mashi?
Central Area, Sabongari & Hayin banki are also Christian majority or at most a 50-50.

Christians have a stronger voter apathy than Muslims, unlike Muslims that will carry the deaf, the lame, the old, the blind and children to go and vote. That is why any place that is even 60% Christian, Muslims will still dominate the politics of that place. Christians only dominate politically if they are up to 70% of a place and they are ruthless.
This is why places that are 50-50 or even 55% Muslim are always concluded to be muslim dominated.

Also, Muslims are businesses oriented and they always live by the roadsides (sending the false message that they are a majority).
That is why Kasuwan Samaru and streets around the market will have more Muslims. However u cannot use a market or the streets around the market to judge the population of an entire Place.
If you go to Kachia market for example, it will look like a 50-50, but does that mean that Kachia town is 50% muslims?

Yes, Christians tend to have more churches in a place compared to Muslims having mosques. However, it is usually like 4 churches to 1 mosque, especially in the north, unlike in the south where there are mushroom one-pastor churches everywhere.

Besides, Google maps do not capture small mushroom churches, only major churches with big landmark buildings.

So, it is impossible for you to look at Google maps and u see 10 churches in one place and only 1 mosque and u tell me that muslims are more in that place or it is a 50-50. Hell no!
But if you see 8 churches and 2 mosques in a place you can say it is 50-50

Look at the screenshot below from a neighborhood in Kaduna city north

Can u see 4 mosques to 1 church? Can such a place ever be Christian majority or 50-50? Hell no. It is overwhelmingly muslim with few Christians.

senatordave1:
I think it is 45% christians,40% Muslims and 15% traditionalists.oyo is 60% Muslims,35% christians5% pagans.osun 50% muslims 40% Christians 10% pagans.ondo should be 70% Christians 20% Muslims,10 pagans.
Ekiti has 90% christian,10% muslims.ogun has 60% Christians 30% Muslims 10% pagans.lagos has 60% Muslims 40% Christians.


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I have told you to stop counting traditionalists as a different religion in Nigeria. This is because almost every traditionalist in Nigeria goes to a church or a mosque. Full blown traditionalist who never step their foot in a church or mosque in Nigeria are not more than 1% of the country.

If you want to identify a traditionalist as anyone who goes to a Babalawo or anyone who dances with masquerades and goes to shrines occasionally, then Nigeria would be like 40% traditionalist and Yorubas would be like 80% traditionalist


So, let me give u the religious breakdown of the SW & Yorubaland in my own opinion, regardless of the traditionalist.

Oyo 60% Muslim, 40% Christian
Osun 50% Muslim, 50% Christian
Ogun 35% Muslim, 65% Christian
Ondo 20% Muslim, 80% Christian
Ekiti 10% Muslim, 90% Christian

Lagos indigenes 65% Muslim, 35% Christian
All Yorubas in Lagos 40% Muslim, 60% Christian
Everyone in Lagos 20% Muslim, 80% Christian

Yorubas in Kwara 55% Muslim, 45% Christian
Yorubas in Kogi 20% Muslim, 80% Christian.

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