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Ladies beware. Many guys and men are very evil.

The worst part of all these, after all these yahoo boys and ritualist alhajis have uselessed these girls, a young, innocent and good aspiring man will now end up marrying them as wives.

Innocent guys, shine your eye too o before you end up marrying a walking corpse as a wife.

ejosh4:
***** In a country where you are still struggling even with your star intact *****
THESE GOT ME ROLLING ON THE FLOOR

Abi o. Talkless of without star. LoL

BakireBulmaker:
Lokoja people are not Yorubas!

Only very few Ilorin people claim to be Fulanis!!

Lokoja LGA is basically made up of Bassa nge, Egbira koto, Nupe speaking Kakanda people and the yoruba speaking Oworo people.
Also, as the capital Of Kogi state, many Okun people from other parts of Kogi west have come to settle in Lokoja.
Lokoja is also in Kogi west together with all the other yoruba speaking Okun communities. So i don't really get you.

About Ilorin, yes, fewer of them claim to be fulanis while a good number of them are somehow confused and don't know what to claim or say and just stick with identity ILORIN. If u ask them their tribe, they will reply I AM FROM ILORIN.
However, the richest and influential Ilorin families like the Sarakis, Belgores, Alimis, Bellos e.t.c never claim Yoruba. They either claim Ilorin or fulani or Arewa.
I know Ilorin people very well, some claim yoruba, some claim fulani, some are confused which to claim, some claim both fulani and yoruba interchangeably at convenience, some claim Nupe.
I have come across each from these categories and i have even seen where they argue amongst themselves on where to stand.

Very beautiful culture.
I love and admire the culture of Tarabans, the Jukuns, Kutebs, Ichens, Mumuyes, Konas and the Mambillas and others.
I wish Gembu town was more developed. Infact Taraba as a whole needs more development. Mambilla is a place many Nigerians need to know about due to it's uniqueness.

Besides, i'd like to know the difference between Mambila, Nkaka, Kambu and other tribes in Sardauna LGA.

@Probz

As much as u may want to see Anioma people differentiated based on their Igboness, i'd like to make it known to u that the united Anioma identity has been of immense benefit to them as it has helped them unite in order to become politically relevant in Delta state.
Delta state is a multi-ethnic state where different groups fight for their interests radically and as usual the larger ones take the day.
If Anioma politicians and people had not united to support one Governorship candidate in the last Delta governorship elections that saw the first Anioma governor of Delta state, i doubt they would have ever produced any governor in Delta state.
So, as much as u would like Anioma or parts of Anioma to be so igbocentric and united with their Igbo peeps over the Niger, don't u be so selfish to ignore their own political interests and destiny in their own political arena.

Take a look at Rivers state and see how fragmented the Igboid groups over there are. It's a good thing that they have over half of the population in Rivers state hence they are politically at advantage unlike Anioma people who are only a third of Delta state, but nonetheless it would have been better if all the Igboid Rivers group have a united identity like that of Delta Igbos.

Almost every village in Rivers Igboid areas claim their own identity, Ikwerre, Ndoni, Ogba, Egbema, Ekpeye, Ndoki, Asa, Etche, Omuma e.t.c and while the larger Ikwerres may be enjoying politically and developing, the smaller ones are suffering neglect because these fragmented tribes do not care about each other.
Some even speak Igbo but are adressed as Ijaws like the Bonny/Opobo people. I have resided in PH and seen all these.
Kudos to the Aniomas for their unity.

In the Nigeria of today that we are, our political classificatioms have become somehow more important than our ethnic classifications and this is something some of you must accept.
Most Delta and Rivers Igboid groups cherish their state identities more than a pan Igbo identity because that has somehow been their means of getting what they want.

Reminds me of a Kogi friend of mine from the yoruba speaking part of Kogi, in ABU Zaria she went to Yoruba student union to apply for a scholarship meant for yoruba people, but she was rejected there and told that she is not from the southwest and that the scholarship only covers the South-west and Kogi is excluded.
Irrespective of the fact that she grew up in the south-west and feels yoruba like every other yoruba person, it dawned on her that her first identity lies with her fellow Kogites ( the Igalas, Igbirras, Bassas and co) and Kogi identity is something she must live with and Kogi state does not recognise Yoruba ethnic group but only OKUN and OKUN SUBTRIBES.

Probz:
I’m not trying to generalise, believe me. All I said was that, from my experience, most of the Igbo denial in Delta State comes from the Ika-Ukwuani (Bendel) region and that’s for a reason. I know there are Igbo deniers in Asaba environs but they’re noticeably fewer compared to their more westerly neighbours. Riverine Igbos, not just Deltans but select Anambrarians (Onitsha, Ogbaru), have this funny thing about hinterland Igbos anyway. We’ve all heard of ‘nwa onye Igbo.’

Anioma just seems like a pure political creation to me. As far as I can see, Enuani’s the only true Igbo group in the northern Delta State and that’s not even being generalising since most Ika-Ukwuanis that I know vehemently oppose the Igbo label. Cross-border influences are everywhere in the Igbo exterior (Nsukka-Igala, Aro-Ibibio, Abakaliki-Tiv/Idoma) but I can’t help but see Bendel Igbos as nothing other than flat-out Edo-Igbo hybrids. What’s more generalising than any of what I’m saying is lumping them in with true Delta Igbos because they share some linguistic similarities. It seems to me like a pure matter of geographic and political convenience (esp. to an average Nigerian) and partly the reason why people don’t see Delta Igbos as true Igbos, because the Igboid-Edoid groups in that region (who account for the majority) reject the label. That’s why I think the Delta Igbo label should be limited to Aniocha/Oshimili and not including Ika and Ndokwa. Unless someone can tell me that the latter were originally Igbo and not Bini in culture/language and that there’s not just a few of them assimilating into the wider Igbo culture and language for political reasons.

Of course. Anioma is a political identity coined by Osadebe for all the western Igbos and it has become a strong identity today almost like an ethnic group.
I don't think it would ever be possible for anyone to seperate Anioma people based on Igbo denial/acceptance. I grew up with these people and i can tell u that Igbo denial/acceptance is roughly divided among them.
I have met proud Ika/Ndokwa Igbos as well as Asaba/Anochia igbo denials. These people have been neighbours with each other for centuries and have evolved a lot of similar cultures at the western part of the river. Only they can choose to divide themselves.

Are u aware that some Ika and Ndokwa towns speak Enuani instead of Ika and Ndokwa based languages?
Even among the Anochia and Asaba people, different towns claim different origins and identities. I doubt they can ever be seperated as such.

emmy4lov:
I can see #500 at work.

I don't know why hausas can be easily manipulated and fooled...

You stand with Buhari, you dont stand with Nigeria ..

Their brains are filled with religious extremism. What do u expect?

Hmm, what are we not going to see

TheLawTheLegal:
Ikwerre, Obigbo, Omoku, Ahoada, all in rivers state, speak variants of Igbo. The Igbo of Obigbo people is clearer to an Enugu person than the Igbo of an Owerri person.

Like I said before, the reason some of them deny being Igbo is that they don't want to be associated with the stigma already placed on the Igbo nation.

I bet you, if the north was not this backward, oozing with violence, and if the South west was not relatively stable as it is now, the Okun people in Kogi will not even remember their root in Yoruba.

Identity crisis is the height of inferiority complex and that is what the Ikwerre people are suffering.

Mind you, the present Secretary general of oha na Eze Ndigbo is an Ikwerre man. Some Ikwerre people like him still have sense.

Okun people are overwhemingly christians that is also one of the reasons why they really distance themselves from northern identity.
Go to Ilorin where most of them are muslims, they glady accept northern identity and many of them although they speak only yoruba but they proudly claim Arewa and fulani identity.

BakireBulmaker:
It's not the same thing.

For whatever reason, it's the bearers of those names themselves that claim they are not Igbo.

However, northern Yorubas have never denied their Yoruba ancestry/heritage. All they are agitating for now is to be joined to the SW.

Got it

I have met many Okun people who deny being yorubas. They are all over Lokoja.
What about Ilorin people who claim that they are fulanis but speak only yoruba?

Paretomaster:
How?.....she is Yoruba, but born and brought up in Kano, thus representing Kano state, so how does that Tag her a Northerner?...

She is from Kogi state and Kogi is classified as NORTH CENTRAL!

buchilino:
SAY WATEVA U LIKE, DOSE SO CALLED TOUTS R STILL NWADI IGBO

Yes, but they can never really be the mouthpiece of the Igbo nation or ever be taken seriously by the government. They will be treated like the criminals and touts that they are by the national security.

The Igbos have their elected legislatives and executives who are their recognized mouth piece nationally and these are the only ones who voice can be taken seriously by anyone.

Dhayor001:
Unlike beer parlours and club houses that do not allow the patronage of Persons under the age of 18+, BBA or BBN or Playboy Mansion can be accessed by anyone from anywhere sir.

Legal or not, that a social vice can be gotten by anyone with so much ease is the issue here!

That is why as a parent u must guide what your children watch. There are parental control options to limit underage viewers and it is your responsibility to do so for your children.

buchilino:
OHANEZE WHO?, BROS OHANEZE IS HISTORY. KANU N OTHER IGBO YOUTHS R D FUTURE

Future of the street touts, derelicts and societal misfits of Igbo land i guess

bigfrancis21:
Dude you're from the middle belt. I don't see why this issue even concerns you in the first place.

Yes, but i was born and bred in Delta state and grew up with these people. I know them like the back of my palms.
Any igbo man thinking he can ever get majority support from Anioma people on anything pro igbo is just deceiving himself. At least you can pull some of them from Anochia/Oshimili axis (like 50%). But when it goes to Ika/Ndokwa axis, you are on a long thing.

Personally, i used to see and adress Delta igbos as igbos in the past but as i grew up and made friends with more of them and understood them better, they kept rebuking n correcting me from adressing them as Igbos especially the Ikas n Ndokwas, so i had to oblige.

However, good luck to u guys as i told the other, since it's no longer Biafra. Just that you guys never give others the view of your seriousness and will always meet criticisms.

cheruv:
How do you expect our people to start discussing Igbo agenda with someone who's not Igbo Guy you're very funny oo. Delta is a heterogeneous state, so you don't expect an Anioma son who just met to start talking about something that'd potentially frighten you
That's the main reason we're angling for an Anioma state.. Where we can feel free to talk and do anything we want to without harming the "feelings" of the other non Igboid tribes.
Moreover our kinsmen across the river has agreed to support us in our drive for Anioma state... So its just a matter of time before we get it.
Moreover stop denigrating what you don't know about... Kos that idea is even bigger than Nigeria itself. That's you wine and dine with someone doesn't mean you'd not harm them if given an opportunity.

Ok, i wish u guys success. Lets see how far u will go.
However, your people rejected d creation of Anioma state in the past claiming that u cannot let Onitsha go with Anioma people. I bet u guys are now hungry for Anioma people now but in life some things are too late.

Anyone talking abt state creation now is just fooling himself. Nigeria has no time for that now. Anioma ppl are not the only ones agitating for a state, there are up to 20 others.

Sctests:
If you had a good working brain in that your muslim pro-dullard skull, your would have realised that nowhere in the world do people seek permission from their leaders and rulers before seeking to start a revolution- idealogical or physical.

Kanu Nnamdi pulls more crowd than all SE and SS politicians combined even when they mobilize people with their stolen wealth for rallies.

This is why Igbos are naturally intelligent than you. You pro-dullards just open your filthy mouths and blab after throwing away your brain into ogbomosho for ritualists to pick up and go sell.

You see where you guys missed the whole thing.
How did Scotland (Britain), Catalonia (Spain) or Quebec (Canada) ever got a referendum to vote in order to leave their countries? It was never due to the number of protests they carried out or the number of faceless people crying CHUKU OKIKIA OBIMA. LOL

The bills for seccession and right to referendum were argued and passed by Scottish, Catalonian and Quebecois lawmakers in British, Spanish and Canadian parliaments before these govts could take them any serious.
I take it that i am really speaking with ignorant dummies.

cheruv:
I made that statement so that you'd show your igbophobic hand which you've shown...its time to draw the curtains but before I do,just know that SE and SS Igboid tribes are forging a new destiny together in their new country Oke Ohaeze AlaIgbo and no amount of hate from you non Igboid SSners would stop that.
Am telling you as an Anioma son

Igbophobic? And how do u know that am not from Anioma, Ikwerre, Etche, Ekpeye e.t.c?
See this one talking as if it is not these groups of people i am living with in Delta state, winning and dinning with, and hardly do u even see any of them talk about Igbo agenda.
You can never see an Ika, Ukwuani, Anochia or Ikwerre person carry Igbo matter for head. Hardly! Cos most do not even believe they are Igbos.
Let's watch na, it's no more Biafra, it's now 'Oke alozie oheze'. LoLL....continous clowns. Which would it be next?

cheruv:
Am not talking about Biāfra but about Igboland
Here's the difference btwm the two
While Biāfra incorporates the southern minorities and excludes the Anioma, Igboland incorporates both SE and SS Igboid tribes and excludes non Igboid tribes.
The later is what am angling about

Ok, so, it's no longer about Biafra, but now, a republic of Igbo land? What does forging a new country imply?

You guys are terribly sick if u think you can pull any part of South-South together with you.
Until we start seeing core south-east political, traditional and religous leaders championing any greater Igbo republic course or whatever that will develop Igbo land to be among the best nationally and change the terrible mentality of Igbos, neither Anioma nor Ikwerre people will take you guys serious cos even you guys don't take yourselves serious.

Delta and Rivers state are more progressive than any of the South-east states or even than all of them combined. Why in fuucks sake are they ever going to join themselves with parasites?

cheruv:
For Igbos... Its time to upp the momentum and forge a new country. Nigeria is dead!

Tell that to your political, religious and traditional rulers and your business magnates, who hardly give a Bleep about Biafra and never show support for it's cause.
The are the only set of people anyone can take seriously because they are the voice of your people.

vanbonattel:
Utter trash, absolute bunkum, arrant nonsense, puerile rubbish!

Only an afonja is capable of this idiocy by the OP. The whole Igbos love biafra, anyone who hates biafra and claims to be igbo should ask his mother about the truth of his paternity.

If not stupidity, why do many Ipobs lack cognizance of the fact that almost all Igbo politicians, elites, powerful business men, religious and traditional leaders do not give a rat's ass about Biafra?
They seldom talk about it in the open let alone chamioning it, when they are the ones who are supposed to be at the forefront of the struggle in order to make it plausible..
We only see scoundrels, societal misfits, derelicts and all manners of low-life igbos killing themselves on Biafran issues. Is Biafran agitation only for the poor and faceless Igbos?

Wonderful piece i must say

Odingo1:
Go and recover small kwara from Gambaris before asking for another war from brave easterners.

What of your own IgweOcha where Ipob members are killed like rats? Recover it from Okrika and Ikwerre.

Odingo1:
Is better to fight and lose than to surrender your land to conquest by Gambari people without a fight. You people should show how brave you are and recover Kwara from Gambaris.

Have u guys recovered Port harcourt from Okrika and Ikwerre control?

Happy birthday our beautiful African sister. We love u.

Nuheights:
Edo state government, please no slacking ooooo! Counting on Mr. Obaseki to do same and make Benin City a smart city!!!

Edo keh
Is it the Benin i live in Nigeria or another one in China?

Benin is really failing for it's capacity and i doubt if it will get better.

Rivertemz:
Well the fulanis today have no sovereignty to Yoruba land, they have no military power, they remain nomads with herds of cows. Nothing more, nothing less

Fulani nomads in Ilorin are different from Ilorin indigenes of fulani ancestry.

How do u know u are 50% african? Dna test?
If yes, did the test point the exact african tribe or country u might be from?

What is your skin tone like?

Forlarene:
I've come across a lot of people from ondo state and they seem to be different from their yoruba counterparts.they 're well-disciplined,accomodative, highly educated and friendly.may be i'm wrong,pls Feel free to share your experience with these wonderful people

Yes, u are very correct. I have also observed this, but the reason is not far-fetched.
A lot of Ondo people have non- yoruba origins from Edo and other areas. Their own cultures also differ naturally from hinterland yorubas.
Many Ondos are not even orignally yorubas.
Watch their cultural displays and u will clearly notice the great difference between them and other yoruba groups.

The difference btw the Ondos and other yoruba groups is just like that between Delta/Rivers Igbo groups and main South-east Igbos.

Jcolston89:
I thought you meant south, my apologizes

You really dont look African american. You look very African just like an average Nigerian.
I was thinking u were a Nigerian born abroad who could not trace his roots. It's still somehow the same afterall.

You look Igbo.
But u are definitely most likely to be from Southern Nigeria.

Simongm:
point of correction, Lokoja is part of oodua, have you heard of Okun(yoruba people of kogi state) before? We extend to Lokoja.

Okun people are not the only ones in Lokoja. U also have nupes and Egbira koto as indigenes of the city.