₦airaland Forum

JBismarck:
Logically, it is not possible to have carved parts of Kogi State into FCT when the former was created in 1991 while the latter came into existence in 1990. Apart from this, I think you did a great work and I even learnt new thing today. The Egbiras are of Kwararafa origin. Interesting, I will read up on that. Thanks so much.

F C T was carved out of the Kogi portion of old Kwara state (i forgot to add that). U welcome.

Nigeria is really in trouble

Pls Kogi state indigenes should help us with a comprehensive list of influential achievers from their state cos i only know of those in the entertainment industry and politics e.g

Halima Abubakar - Nollywood actress
Ufedo Sunshine - Nollywood actress
Mercy Ozioma Johnson- Okojie - Nollywood actress
Esther Ene Audu - Nollywood actress
Rahama Hassan - Kannywood actress
Gbenro Ajibade - Nollywood actor
Darey Art Alade - Nigerian musician
Praiz (Praise Ugbede Adejo) - Nigerian musician

Dr Salamat Ahuoiza Aliu - First female Nigerian trained Neurosurgeon


Adamu Atta - First civillian governor of Old Kwara state
Abubakar Audu - First civillian governor of Kogi state

Cc: lalasticla, Mynd44, OAM4J

I am not claiming to be a superior fountain of knowledge of any of these facts. Just an average everyday Nigerian from the North-central (middlebelt region) of the country willing to showcase some facts about the northern region and her individual states.
I welcome corrections from the facts listed above if any.



Here are some references for those who want to go further in the historical facts of this piece.

http://www.worldhistory.biz/sundries/48038-igbo-and-igala.

http://edonationsatelite..com.ng/2016/07/igalayoruba-relationship-oduduwa.html?m=1

http://www.ebiravabe.com/2016/02/who-are-indigenes-of-okene-anokene-fact.html?m=1

https://profcollinson./2013/03/12/the-history-of-igala-kindom/

http://connectnigeria.com/articles/2015/04/7-interesting-facts-about-the-igalas-you-should-know/

10) Kogi state is also well known for its tourist attractions, some of which are:

The late Ohinoyi of Egbirra palace, an ancient and modern architectural wonder.

The Inikpi statue built in memory of Inikpi, the daughter of the first Attah of Igala kingdom who was buried alive on the instruction of the Oracle to restore peace and freedom in the land.

Iron of Liberty which marks the spot where slaves that were rescued from slave traders were set free.

The confluence of River Niger and River Benue.

Osome Falls located in Ukpogo. Osome is a stream that makes its way through rocks of different heights before sharply descending in a valley about 50 metres below. The sound the water makes when it hits the ground below can be heard from about 100 meters away.

Mount Patti, Lokoja which is a massive hill towering Lokoja. The Confluence point of Rivers Niger and Benue can be seen from the flat top.

Holy Trinity school Lokoja. This school was established in 1860 by Bishop Ajayi Crowther. It is the first primary school in Northern Nigeria.

Awo tunnel, a former refuge for the royal family in times of war dug during the reign of Onoja Obari. It is about 1 kilometer long.

Lord Luggard’s first residence and office in Nigeria.

European colonial cemeteries.

World war cenotaph

Agbaja plateau.

Eganja warm spring

Royal Niger company flag e.t.c.




Photos
1 & 2 Ohinoyi of Ebira palace
3, Inikpi statue
4, Lugard guest house

6) ETHNO- RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY AND MELTING POINT - Kogi state is one state in Nigeria which can really be classified as truly diverse and the same time unifying. The state comprises mainly of 3 ethnic groups which are the Igalas, the Igbirras and the yoruba speaking Okun people, together with other minority groups like Ogori magongo, Gwari, Agatu/idoma and nupe speaking tribes, Bassa, Kakanda and Kupa.

Kogi state is one state that it is extremely difficult to determine between muslims and christians who is more in population. Take for instance the Okun people in the state are predominantly christians, the Egbirra people are predominantly muslims while the Igalas, the largest tribe in the state are somewhat 50/50.
Among the minority groups, the Ogori magongo and the Bassas are dominantly christians, the Kakanda and Kupa are dominantly muslims while the Agatu and Gwari are somewhat 50/50.

Kogi state is the only state in Nigeria which shows true WAZOBIA influences of the 3 major groups of Nigeria, Hausa, yoruba and Igbo (owing to it's location).

Firstly, One of the major groups in Kogi state is yoruba speaking (Okun) with yoruba origins from Ile-ife.

Secondly, you almost cannot seperate Igala and Igbo history apart (especially the southern part of Igala). Some say according to history Igala and Igbo have the same father, some say one of the tribes begat the other. Nevertheless the cultural diffusion and oneness of the igalas and igbos can be seen through their days of the week, names, language vocabulary similarities, masquerades, intermixed communities e.t.c. There are many igala communities with Igbo origins and vice versa in igbo land, and in some places on both sides, the natives are fully billingual, giving rise to some igbo speaking igalas in Kogi state and vice versa on the other side.

Lastly, the ethnicity of the King (Maigari) and ruling families of Lokoja is one that can hardly be ascertained and this is because of over a hundred years mixing of hausa-fulanis and the aboriginal Nupes in Lokoja. Many of the Nupes in Lokoja are of hausa origin and till date many speak hausa and even identify as hausa. This was clearly what influenced the name of the state KOGI which means 'river' in hausa language.


7) GREAT IGALA KINGDOM - Kogi state is home to one of the great kingdoms that existed in pre-colonial Nigeria.
The kingdom was founded in the 7th century by Abutu-eje and lasted until the late 19th century when it was subjugated by the colonialists. It would take another full thread or series of threads to fully explain the great influence, spread, wars, descendants and sacredness of this great kingdom in details.


8 ... IGALAS OF YORUBA HAUSA AND IGBO ORIGINS - Many igalas themselves probably do not know that their ethnic group is very unique in the sense that it is the only minority tribe in Nigeria which has clear influences and people of (Wazobia) yoruba, hausa and igbo origins.

For the igbo influences, In the 6th point i highlighted a little about the interesting igala/igbo relationship. Both groups share a great deal of boundary , culture and history together and have been heavily inter-mixed for over centuries now.

For the yoruba Influences, Igala language is basically classified as a yoruboid language, due to it's linguistic structure which is basically yoruba. Yorubas and Igalas have been neighbours for hundreds of years before the Egbirras migrated from Kwararafa kingdom, settled in between and cut off igalas from yoruba groups. A yoruba speaker who understands various yoruba dialects will be very much likely to understand igala language to a good extent.
Also, according to igala oral history, igalas agree with the Benins that Oduduwa migrated from Benin to yoruba land but passed through igala land where he formed a chiefdom Ife (a town and chiefdom in Igala land till date) before further migrating to Ile-ife in yoruba land and that this is why yoruba and igala languages are so similar. There is a title in Igala land known as the Ojogba of Ife and this is the only king that cannot bow to the great Attah of Igala land till date.

For the hausa influence, Ankpa, the most populated LGA in igala land (2006 census) has communities that clearly acknowledge their hausa-fulani ancestry e.g Angwa town, who are descendants of hausa traders who came to trade with igalas centuries ago and were later on igalanized. This is believed to be the window of islam into igala land. This is quite evident with the fact that Ankpa has the strongest islamic populations in Igala land.


9) VERY RICH CULTURE - I honestly believe that in the north-central geopolitical zone, the people of Kogi state arguably have the richest and most undiluted culture, due to their cultural history, migrations, historical relationship with all the 3 major tribes of Nigeria and even other great kingdoms like the Benin kingdom. Kogi state masquerades, cultural dances, attires, traditional music e.t.c are really wonderful.
Despite being in the north with a large muslim population, there is no single islamic emirate in Kogi state. The Attah of Igala is said to be one of the northern kings who can never bow, stand up or show respect to the Sultan of Sokoto. Kogi state arguably has the largest population of traditionalists in the North-central zone (due to the power of their culture).




Photos
1, Great Attah of Igala land
2, Egbirra women in traditional attire
3, Okun traditional dancers
4, Igala masquerade

KOGI STATE : 10 INTERESTING FACTS YOU SHOULD KNOW.

Kogi, one of the 36 states in Nigeria located in the North-central geopolitcal zone in the middlebelt (central) region of the country.
The state occupies a total landmass of 29,833 km2 (11,519 sq mi) and was created in the year 1991 from old Kwara and Benue states.

Here are some factors that make this state quite unique amongst other states in Nigeria.

1) THE NAME NIGERIA - Many people do not actually know that the name of our dear country Nigeria was coined in Lokoja, the kogi state capital by Flora Shaw, the British journalist who later became the wife of Lord Lugard (first governor general of Nigeria), when she was gazing at the magnificence of the greatest river in Nigeria, the river Niger.


2) THE JUNCTION STATE - The nickname of Kogi state should have been called the 'junction state' because this state connects/has a boundary with the highest number of states in Nigeria.
10 states Anambra, Enugu, Benue, Nasarawa, Niger, Kwara, Ekiti, Ondo, Edo states and the FCT are all joined together by this great state.
I think the federal capital territory would have been best situated in this state for complete centralization and unification. Nonetheless the FCT is just a stone throw away from Kogi and infact part of Kogi state was also carved to form the FCT.


3) CONFLUENCY - Kogi state is so significant because this state houses a very remarkable handwork of mother nature -The confluence of the two greatest rivers that run across Nigeria, the river Niger and river Benue in the city of Lokoja.
Anyone who has travelled through Lokoja and has seen the captivating scenery of this confluence would agree with me that it is indeed a spectacular sight.


4) AJAOKUTA STEEL & IRON INDUSTRY - The multi-billion dollars steel & iron industry, the largest of it's kind in Nigeria was established in 1971 on a 24,000 hectare land. This mighty industry has unfortunately been left moribund for a long period of time, but recently over the years, concerted efforts has been made by the Nigerian government to ensure its full capacity functioning.
This industry is viewed as a potential bedrock for the industrialization of Nigeria.

5) FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE CENTRE - Infact this city called Lokoja is just so important in Nigerian history and it is really terrible to think how much it has been neglected over the decades by past and present administrations in Nigeria.
Lokoja was the first administrative centre of Nigeria because it was the first settlement of the british in Nigeria. It served as the first capital of the old northern protectorate and even after amalgamation of the northern and southern prectorates it also remained the admininstrative centre for a while.



Photos
1, Kogi and it's boundary states
2, The great confluence
3 Ajaokuta steel industry

Similar threads have been created in respect to revealing the true history, political significance and people of many states in the southern part of Nigeria.

So i think it'd be best suitable to also take this to the northern and middlebelt states of Nigeria, so that the significance of all parts of Nigeria can be well appreciated, i begin with Kogi state.

ImperialYoruba:
I just spoke about the need to demonstrate scholarship.

You may confuse Igala for Igbo, the rest of Nigeria does not. What in the appearance of these Igalas pictured below depict Igbo culture?

Sir, like i noted in the thread. Igalas have influences of both yoruba, igbo and hausa. I have seen igala people whom i mistook for igbos until they told me that they were not igbos, likewise igalas i mistook for yorubas.

Many igalas from the southern part of igala land (sharing boundary with igbos) do look like igbos a lot, coupled with the fact that some igalas and igbos share similar names. And some igalas from the southern part of igala land are billingual in igala and igbo.
U can see an igala man answering a name like Onuche Okpananchi, most Nigerians who do not know Kogi names would conclude at first sight that the man is an igbo man, or is it the current igala deputy governor whose name is Simon Achuba and at first many people were carrying rumours that he is an igbo man.

Pls Kogi state indigenes should help us with a comprehensive list of influential achievers from their state cos i only know of those in the entertainment industry and politics e.g

Halima Abubakar - Nollywood actress
Ufedo Sunshine - Nollywood actress
Mercy Ozioma Johnson- Okojie - Nollywood actress
Esther Ene Audu - Nollywood actress
Rahama Hassan - Kannywood actress
Gbenro Ajibade - Nollywood actor
Darey Art Alade - Nigerian musician
Praiz (Praise Ugbede Adejo) - Nigerian musician

Dr Salamat Ahuoiza Aliu - First female Nigerian trained Neurosurgeon


Adamu Atta - First civillian governor of Old Kwara state
Abubakar Audu - First civillian governor of Kogi state

kennygee:
You forgot to add the numerous mineral resources the state possesses. How it still manages to be so under developed points to the archaic and incompetent governors it has produced from 91 to date.

Ooo, thank you so much. My bad.

Moderators: Lalasticlala, odumchi, Fulaman198, bigfrancis21

I am not claiming to be a superior fountain of knowledge of any of these facts. Just an average everyday Nigerian from the North-central (middlebelt region) of the country willing to showcase some facts about the northern region and her individual states.
I welcome corrections from the facts listed above if any.



Here are some references for those who want to go further in the historical facts of this piece.

http://www.worldhistory.biz/sundries/48038-igbo-and-igala.

htmlhttps://profcollinson./2013/03/12/the-history-of-igala-kindom/

http://edonationsatelite..com.ng/2016/07/igalayoruba-relationship-oduduwa.html?m=1

http://www.ebiravabe.com/2016/02/who-are-indigenes-of-okene-anokene-fact.html?m=1

http://connectnigeria.com/articles/2015/04/7-interesting-facts-about-the-igalas-you-should-know/

10) Kogi state is also well known for its tourist attractions, some of which are:

The late Ohinoyi of Egbirra palace, an ancient and modern architectural wonder.

The Inikpi statue built in memory of Inikpi, the daughter of the first Attah of Igala kingdom who was buried alive on the instruction of the Oracle to restore peace and freedom in the land.

Iron of Liberty which marks the spot where slaves that were rescued from slave traders were set free.

The confluence of River Niger and River Benue.

Osome Falls located in Ukpogo. Osome is a stream that makes its way through rocks of different heights before sharply descending in a valley about 50 metres below. The sound the water makes when it hits the ground below can be heard from about 100 meters away.

Mount Patti, Lokoja which is a massive hill towering Lokoja. The Confluence point of Rivers Niger and Benue can be seen from the flat top.

Holy Trinity school Lokoja. This school was established in 1860 by Bishop Ajayi Crowther. It is the first primary school in Northern Nigeria.

Awo tunnel, a former refuge for the royal family in times of war dug during the reign of Onoja Obari. It is about 1 kilometer long.

Lord Luggard’s first residence and office in Nigeria.

European colonial cemeteries.

World war cenotaph

Agbaja plateau.

Eganja warm spring

Royal Niger company flag e.t.c.




Photos
1, Late Ohinoyi of Ebira palace
2, Inikpi statue
3, Lugard guest house

6) ETHNO- RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY AND MELTING POINT - Kogi state is one state in Nigeria which can really be classified as truly diverse and the same time unifying. The state comprises mainly of 3 ethnic groups which are the Igalas, the Igbirras and the yoruba speaking Okun people, together with other minority groups like Ogori magongo, Gwari, Agatu/idoma and nupe speaking tribes, Bassa, Kakanda and Kupa.

Kogi state is one state that it is extremely difficult to determine between muslims and christians who is more in population. Take for instance the Okun people in the state are predominantly christians, the Egbirra people are predominantly muslims while the Igalas, the largest tribe in the state are somewhat 50/50.
Among the minority groups, the Ogori magongo and the Bassas are dominantly christians, the Kakanda and Kupa are dominantly muslims while the Agatu and Gwari are somewhat 50/50.

Kogi state is the only state in Nigeria which shows true WAZOBIA influences of the 3 major groups of Nigeria, Hausa, yoruba and Igbo (owing to it's location).

Firstly, One of the major groups in Kogi state is yoruba speaking (Okun) with yoruba origins from Ile-ife.

Secondly, you almost cannot seperate Igala and Igbo history apart (especially the southern part of Igala). Some say according to history Igala and Igbo have the same father, some say one of the tribes begat the other. Nevertheless the cultural diffusion and oneness of the igalas and igbos can be seen through their days of the week, names, language vocabulary similarities, masquerades, intermixed communities e.t.c. There are many igala communities with Igbo origins and vice versa in igbo land, and in some places on both sides, the natives are fully billingual, giving rise to some igbo speaking igalas in Kogi state and vice versa on the other side.

Lastly, the ethnicity of the King (Maigari) and ruling families of Lokoja is one that can hardly be ascertained and this is because of over a hundred years mixing of hausa-fulanis and the aboriginal Nupes in Lokoja. Many of the Nupes in Lokoja are of hausa origin and till date many speak hausa and even identify as hausa. This was clearly what influenced the name of the state KOGI which means 'river' in hausa language.


7) GREAT IGALA KINGDOM - Kogi state is home to one of the great kingdoms that existed in pre-colonial Nigeria.
The kingdom was founded in the 7th century by Abutu-eje and lasted until the late 19th century when it was subjugated by the colonialists. It would take another full thread or series of threads to fully explain the great influence, spread, wars, descendants and sacredness of this great kingdom in details.


8 ... IGALAS OF YORUBA HAUSA AND IGBO ORIGINS - Many igalas themselves probably do not know that their ethnic group is very unique in the sense that it is the only minority tribe in Nigeria which has clear influences and people of (Wazobia) yoruba, hausa and igbo origins.

For the igbo influences, In the 6th point i highlighted a little about the interesting igala/igbo relationship. Both groups share a great deal of boundary , culture and history together and have been heavily inter-mixed for over centuries now.

For the yoruba Influences, Igala language is basically classified as a yoruboid language, due to it's linguistic structure which is basically yoruba. Yorubas and Igalas have been neighbours for hundreds of years before the Egbirras migrated from Kwararafa kingdom, settled in between and cut off igalas from yoruba groups. A yoruba speaker who understands various yoruba dialects will be very much likely to understand igala language to a good extent.
Also, according to igala oral history, igalas agree with the Benins that Oduduwa migrated from Benin to yoruba land but passed through igala land where he formed a chiefdom Ife (a town and chiefdom in Igala land till date) before further migrating to Ile-ife in yoruba land and that this is why yoruba and igala languages are so similar. There is a title in Igala land known as the Ojogba of Ife and this is the only king that cannot bow to the great Attah of Igala land till date.

For the hausa influence, Ankpa, the most populated LGA in igala land (2006 census) has communities that clearly acknowledge their hausa-fulani ancestry e.g Angwa town, who are descendants of hausa traders who came to trade with igalas centuries ago and were later on igalanized. This is believed to be the window of islam into igala land. This is quite evident with the fact that Ankpa has the strongest islamic populations in Igala land.


9) VERY RICH CULTURE - I honestly believe that in the north-central geopolitical zone, the people of Kogi state arguably have the richest and most undiluted culture, due to their cultural history, migrations, historical relationship with all the 3 major tribes of Nigeria and even other great kingdoms like the Benin kingdom. Kogi state masquerades, cultural dances, attires, traditional music e.t.c are really wonderful.
Despite being in the north with a large muslim population, there is no single islamic emirate in Kogi state. The Attah of Igala is said to be one of the northern kings who can never bow, stand up or show respect to the Sultan of Sokoto. Kogi state arguably has the largest population of traditionalists in the North-central zone (due to the power of their culture).




Photos
1, Great Attah of Igala land
2, Egbirra women in traditional attire
3, Okun traditional dancers
4, Igala masquerade

KOGI STATE : 10 INTERESTING FACTS YOU SHOULD KNOW.

Kogi, one of the 36 states in Nigeria located in the North-central geopolitcal zone in the middlebelt (central) region of the country.
The state occupies a total landmass of 29,833 km2 (11,519 sq mi) and was created in the year 1991 from old Kwara and Benue states.

Here are some factors that make this state quite unique amongst other states in Nigeria.

1) THE NAME NIGERIA - Many people do not actually know that the name of our dear country Nigeria was coined in Lokoja, the kogi state capital by Flora Shaw, the British journalist who later became the wife of Lord Lugard (first governor general of Nigeria), when she was gazing at the magnificence of the greatest river in Nigeria, the river Niger.


2) THE JUNCTION STATE - The nickname of Kogi state should have been called the 'junction state' because this state connects/has a boundary with the highest number of states in Nigeria.
10 states Anambra, Enugu, Benue, Nasarawa, Niger, Kwara, Ekiti, Ondo, Edo states and the FCT are all joined together by this great state.
I think the federal capital territory would have been best situated in this state for complete centralization and unification. Nonetheless the FCT is just a stone throw away from Kogi and infact part of Kogi state was also carved to form the FCT.


3) CONFLUENCY - Kogi state is so significant because this state houses a very remarkable handwork of mother nature -The confluence of the two greatest rivers that run across Nigeria, the river Niger and river Benue in the city of Lokoja.
Anyone who has travelled through Lokoja and has seen the captivating scenery of this confluence would agree with me that it is indeed a spectacular sight.


4) AJAOKUTA STEEL & IRON INDUSTRY - The multi-billion dollars steel & iron industry, the largest of it's kind in Nigeria was established in 1971 on a 24,000 hectare land. This mighty industry has unfortunately been left moribund for a long period of time, but recently over the years, concerted efforts has been made by the Nigerian government to ensure its full capacity functioning.
This industry is viewed as a potential bedrock for the industrialization of Nigeria.

5) FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE CENTRE - Infact this city called Lokoja is just so important in Nigerian history and it is really terrible to think how much it has been neglected over the decades by past and present administrations in Nigeria.
Lokoja was the first administrative centre of Nigeria because it was the first settlement of the british in Nigeria. It served as the first capital of the old northern protectorate and even after amalgamation of the northern and southern prectorates it also remained the admininstrative centre for a while.



Photos
1, Kogi and it's boundary states
2, The great confluence
3 Ajaokuta steel industry

Similar threads have been created in respect to revealing the true history, political significance and people of many states in the southern part of Nigeria.

So i think it'd be best suitable to also take this to the northern and middlebelt states of Nigeria, so that the significance of all parts of Nigeria can be well appreciated, i begin with Kogi state.

The truth is that Kwara south has absolutely no problem with yoruba identity and yorubaness. Those people classifying the whole of Kwara state indigenes as islamic fanatics are very wrong!
Kwara south is like every other part of yoruba land. The problem is Kwara central (Ilorin territory). Kwara north is owned by nupes and busa/bariba people who are not yorubas although share a close culture with yorubas.

Kwara central (Ilorin people) cannot be called yorubas because many of the indigenes here will never accept that, take a late ilorin elder statesman like Abubakar Olusola Saraki who made it clear to the whole world that the fact that he speaks yoruba does not make him a yoruba man.
Ilorin is indigenously highly populated by yorubanized fulanis, pure fulanis who also speak yoruba as an additional language as well as yorubanized nupes and hausas. All these yorubanized people may be speaking yoruba as their mother's tongue but their ancestry and preference so much lies in the Sokoto caliphate which their cherished emirate and islamic heritage is tied to.

This is why it is extremely wrong to call Kwara a yoruba state! Only Kwara south (offa, Omu aran e.t.c) can truly be adressed as yoruba people.

MadCow1:
Only WOr-wor girls and dull girls get friendzoned..

This is very wrong. I have friendzoned beautiful girls, either because my gaze is already on someone else or i do not like their character. Not all guys look for beauty in a girl.

Wow, may God cause this to be possible in my beautiful state.

lordkhalifa:
thanks God u said northern Nigeria is the problems of this country.... if they have killed 1000 people so far 950 are middlebelt , Vast lands belonging to Autochthonous peoples such as the Berom, Tiv in Taraba, Northern Banks of the river Benue are now occupied by Fulani herdsmen after dislodging the native populations. Such areas are now Fulani territories and natives are not allowed into such areas., Buhari is a Fulani man, an ethnic and tribal bigot and he is fully in support of the Fulani Occupation of ur Peoples lands.
Just when Benue farmers were enjoying some respite from the activities of dare-devil Fulani herdsmen in some parts of the state, no fewer than 12 persons were - killed, According to a source, the armed men stormed the village in their numbers from neighbouring Tarka Local Government at about 11pm, shooting sporadically and burning down houses and huts in the community there is no doubt that it is this same group of herdsmen that have been terrorizing Tarka and Buruku Local Government Areas in recent times that are responsible for this attack.

“This time they stormed Tarfi village, Binnev Ward, in Buruku late last night at about 11pm, in a commando fashion shooting and killing anything that stood in their way.

“It was a well coordinated attack. They matched through the village burning down houses and huts, farmland, food barn and any belonged to the indigenous people.

this animals from north committing all this hideous and wicked crime against humanity is the same people u are shielding here... before Fulani's finish off half part of Enugu not to talk of entire southern region I'm 100% certain by then ur village has turn to burial ground... my dear stop supporting evil... I knew how it pains to be a minority tribe... but u got to start thinking outside the box.. u said Fulani's established their flag in where hahahahaha u barely know aba boys if one person go down in abia , the reprisal will take 20 Fulani head's... abi u heard how they were killed a week ago in Akokwa IMO state... if one of us go down here 30 will pay with their blood

With all this plenty rubbish u have typed, i just heard that Enugu ppl are about to declare a 40 days and 40 night fasting for fulani herdsmen directed from the state government. Wake me up when u guys have finished fasting.

I am highly ashamed of igbos in this country i must confess...... Igbos have failed themselves. They go about beating their chests and bragging while yorubas are progressing and making waves.
Pride, hatred and greed only destroys. Igbos are destroying themselves.

I think we Nigerian minority groups need to start looking up to yorubas for leadership in Nigeria.

lordkhalifa:
then in ur middlebelt region have u ever had problem before with any guy from eastern region the answer is no.... please manage the Fulani marauder ransacking ur entire village... Igbo are lively and lovely people that mind only their businesses and enjoy living in peace with the host community.... since u cab give me any prove of Igbo tribe disturbing the peaceful coexistence of host or hosted community I expect u to shamefully bow ur face in shame and face the Fulani's who stops at nothing to send minorities like u into extinction

Yes we middlebelters do not really have any problem with igbos except the few ones like u who start spewing thrash abt our state. U started it in this thread by denigrating our region.

See this one, the dozens of ppl fulanis murdered in Nimbo, Uzo uwani LGA, are they Plateau people? To the extent that fulanis established their flag in abia state. Enugu state governor wept for his people and told the entire Enugu state to go on three daya fasting n prayer........ Can there be any more cowardly act than this?
Yes fulanis attack the middlebelt but mind u, not all parts! There r som parts like my place in Plateau who know how to cure fulani madness. Give a fulani man one million naira and tell him to go and try nonsense in Langtang n pankshin in Plateau and he will return u a slap on ur money. So dont generalize the effects of fulanis on the entire middlebelt just as i will not generalize that of Enugu, its fasting and crying governor as the cowardness of the whole igbo land.
Anambra state governor even had to bribe fulanis not to attack his people. What shame! And igbos are a majority tribe! Majority tribe for nothing!

loshybab:
I just made my points up there bro!

Ok the case of igalas. Let me explain it to u.
All northern igalas (christian n muslim) look down on all southern igalas (christian n muslims). Its more of a cultural thing.
Southern igalas have been so much influenced and intermixed with igbos to the extent that some of them speak igbo as a second language and u know that generally in Nigeria igbos are like the loosing tribe which many do not want to associate with, so the northern igalas try as much to dissociate with these influences.

Also, many southern igalas in those days are believed to be descendants of exiled igalas whom the Attah of igala chased away, so they settled further away closer to igboland. The southern igala dialect has also been heavily watered down by igbo influence. The southern igalas have been the ones who mostly fought wars for the igala kigdoma and were easily attacked by igbos and edos. This caused the population of southern igalas to dwindle seriously. The northern igalas on the other hand feel their culture is purer and they have more population. This is the reason why they dominate politics in igala land. Northern igalas are like 60% muslims while southern igalas are like 90% christians. The former make up abt 2/3 of igala population and the latter 1/3, so by the time u do the arithmetic u see that the christians are slightly more.
So u see why the northern igalas dominate the affairs of igala land, and since a slight majority of the northern igalas are muslims, muslims r most likely to represent.
But hope u know that since the creation of kogi state all the senators of igala land have been christians? The current Attah of igala land is also a Christian. Igalas r just like yorubas, they dont give a Bleep about religion, they are more or less divided by clan. Egbirras n nupes are the religious fanatics in d state.


Yes i so much agree that many adoptees in ilorin may not forget their homeland, but u need to understand that many ppl may also forget their homeland if they find themselves in a place that welcomes them so much and gives them equal opportunities, that is exactly what Ilorin emirate promotes and u see that Ilorin shares direct boundary with nupe and bariba communities. Nupe communities in Moro are culturally under the Ilorin emirate as moro lga is part of ilorin emirate.
So do u think ppl who have their kit n kin as part of ilorin culturally may not be able to fit in and become absorbed?
See, ilorin emirate encourages religious integration just like the core north. A nupe, fulani or bariba muslim is more welcomed, preffered and accepted by most ilorin indigenes than a fellow yoruba christian from Ogun.
The ilorin emirate system replicates the religious assimilation policies of the sultanate and emirates in the north.

lordkhalifa:
maybe lack of ur exposure won't allow you to notice we have millions of yellow-bar peeps roaming around Igbo land doing their legitimate businesses without any harassment from the host state... or have u heard if Igbo man fighting a Niger deltan man b4 the answer is outrightly No because if u are a traveller u have to tolerate others in ur domain, Im 200% sure any Igbo man can't fold his hands be watching his kins maltreating non Igbo and refuse to intervene , we are not aliens like desert Peep's. apart from Hausa/Fulani peeps which we know are very troublesome tell me by other tribe that ever had problems with their host community in igboland... if u can't give clear fact and evidence of such incidence I will tender my apologies but if u can't... bow ur head in shame and move out of here... b4 I leave u to solve the assignment, take this advice... u need to come out from ur village so u will stop seeing others aliens

See d way ppl like u have been consumed by misplaced bigotry and ethnic witchunting. Everyone on nairaland that disagrees with u or try to place u is now yoruba.i

I am from the middlebelt region and not yoruba

lordkhalifa:
I hear.. who go like invest in a region very hostile to it visitors... even if u dash me land to develop for free in that desert I no go collect

Hostile to visitors yet millions of igbos cannot leave the region!
How many settlers do u find in igbo land compared to other parts of the country? We cannot cheat nature, it will always tell the truth. The hostile part of the country knows itself.
How many middlebelters, hausa fulanis, yorubas or niger deltans will u see wake up one morning and decide to relocate to Aba or Onitsha to settle down?

loshybab:
That's funny man!
Just like lagos state,oyo state has witnessed and still witnessing influx of non-indigenes into d state.
I'm talkin abt d indigenous oyos,ibadans,okeoguns and ibarapas nd nt d immigrated ijeshas,egbas.igbos et al

If ua to consider d indigenous kano indigenes,d xtians wl nt evn b up to 0.5% bt coz f d migration of igbos,yorubas,idomas et al,mayb dey could boast of say 5-10% now. Sametn goes to d SE states.

My pain is that some of u know very little abt the north and u keep on speaking authoritatively abt the north.
Do u know that by far the majority of hausas u see in Kano are not hausa indigenes? Most of the hausas or lets say at least half are from Katsina, Zamfara, Bauchi, Sokoto and mostly Jigawa! because jigawa was formerly part of kano and majority of them remained in kano as their formal state capital.
2 lgas in kano have predominantly christian indigenes (Doguwa n Tudun wada), ask any true kano indigene. Other lgas also hav a lot of indigenous christian maguzawa communities.

There r not so many hausa christians to migrate to challenge the influx of hausa muslims to kano. So if u say only the hausa aborigines of kano, i can tell u that the indigenous christians there would b up to 5-10%.
Also, some kurama speaking christian communities spill over from Lere LGA in kaduna and northern plateau into kano. These kurama speaking christians in kano have dozens of villages. Most of these christians chose to remain in their villages or migrate to kaduna or Jos where they are more accepted and have better opportunities. Those who choose to go to kano city most of them have to answer islamic names in order to avoid discrimination. Many of the kano christians even have to wear hijab just to gain acceptance in the state. These xteristics of the kano indigene christians make them appear as muslims to southernerns.

Christian minorities in the core hausa north are very timid and not outspoken because they are used to domination and discrimination, but it would be a mistake for u to ignore the presence of the indigenous hausa maguxawa christians and the kurama speaking christians of kano state and then move forward to recognize the millions of hausas in kano who come from other parts of hausa land, many of whom are even from Niger republic.

Among kano muslims in entirety, pure kano hausa muslim indigenes should just be about 40% or less. So many other northern minority muslims naturalize in kano and speak hausa as well as the native hausas, these minority northern groups are so many in kano to the extent that they have produced 2 governors of the state.

loshybab:
I beg to disagree on dt f igala.even in d past,it wsnt 50/50 talkless of now.
I may agree wt bassa,ogori,okuns though

But to say 1/3 of kwarans dnt speak yoruba as deir mother's tongue is way too embarassing!
excpt d kwara north wc comprises of nupes,hw many f d ilorins cn stl speak fulfulde,I wl even say dey cn speak hausa more than fulfulde!

Ok, how well do u know igala land? There are about 8 igala dominated LGAs in Kogi state, do u know that it is only in Ankpa LGA that u can find overwhelmingly muslim communities? Go to the southern parts of igala land like Ibaji and Olamaboro, more than half of the communities in that place are without a mosque not to talk of muslims. Omala, ofu and igala mela odolu LGAs are also predominantly christians and not even an igala muslim will argue that!
Dekina and Idah on the other hand are around 50/50.

The only advantage the igala muslims have is that Ankpa is a very populated place and can even challenge Dekina (their headquarters) in population. But even in Ankpa at least one third of the lga are christians and christians r gainning new converts so much.

The problem most ppl have abt igala land is that they think northern igalas are the only igalas. Southern igala land is overwhelmingly christians and even mixed with igbos due to boundary.


How can my assertion of kwara being one third non yoruba speaking by mother's tongue be wrong?
Kwara has 3 senatorial districts and one of them is entirely of nupe and bariba speaking peoples.
Ilorin is mostly yoruba speaking by mother's tongue even though they may not all b yorubas by ancestry. But hope u know that many ilorin indigenes of hausa fulani ancestry still speak fulfude n hausa? Yes i av come across some!
Also, overtime, many nupes and baribas from the northern part of the state have adopted ilorin as their home but their mother's tongue doesn't change..... Many many more pure fulanis n hausas from other parts of the north are now adopting ilorin as their home because the emirate sysem of the city encourages their presence.
So i can tell u that about one quarter of ilorin do not speak yoruba as their mother's tongue.
I also forgot, many many more Nupes from Niger state and many more baribas from Niger, Kebbi and even Benin republic have also adopted ilorin as their home. U may not easily know about the presence of these people because everybody speaks yoruba as a lingua franca
Also to add, there r some nupe speaking communities that spill into kwara central and kwara south in ifelodun and moro..... Infact moro has so many nupe speaking communities.
By the time u add up all these ilorin adoptees and the population of nupe n bariba speaking communities all over the state. They are evidently up to 30% in the state or even more!
Dont mistake the Yoruba fluency of all the ppl u see or meet from kwara as being yoruba by mother's tongue o. If u do that u are on your own.

numericalguy:
The person that tells you the truth does not hate you and you have to get that into your head.

In as much as I do not hate your people, I have nothing to be grateful to them for. On the contrary, we were the ones that liberated them from their local and barbaric ways and brought civilization to your people. And no, the land does not belong to your people which is why we are the true owners of Kaduna and the people of Southern Kaduna.

You hate Hausa people, you hate Igbo people, you hate Fulani people. Na wa for you o! You are filled with so much hate, go and cure yourself of your internal hatred.

If someone started posting pictures of Arab or Indians girls on this forum and tried to pass them on as Nigerians, I would be the first person to kick against it not because I don't like Nigerian girls. Like I said in my earlier posts on this thread, there are lots of beautiful girls with dark skin, why not post pictures of such black beauties instead of stealing pictures of girls from other parts and hoping no one will find out. Even the OP you are vehemently defending has owned up that some of the pictures of the girls she posted are from Benue.

Truth? So laughable.
All ur comments from the beginning of this thread can only show nothing but hate.
The same SpicyJosbabe made a thread earlier about the beauty of kano n zaria girls and she defended them and throughout that thread we did not see any middlebelt person spewing hatred there. Only for her to create our own thread and we now see a lot hatred even from hausa-fulanis.

U claim to have brought civilization to our people but howcome we are now more educated and have higher literacy rates than u people? How come crime and criminality rates in Nigeria is lowest in the middlebelt region?
How come it is impossible to find a plateau man begging for alms, practicing almajiranci? So many blind, lame and amputated beggars all over the core-north?
Extremely laughable!

Everyone knowa that Kaduna city is a Gbagyi city by origin and the reason why we have so many hausas in the city is because Gbagyis share a close boundary with hausa land and kaduna served as the administrative centre of the whole north.
Tell the Emir of Zaria to shift his throne to kaduna city now, nonsense!


And just for the records, the OP did not say that the girls were Benue girls, she made it clear that the girls were mixed with Benue origins.
Take Dija for example she chose to identify with her mother's side which is Kaduna because she is of mixed origin.
The OP made it clear that the benue girls in the thread are of mixed origins and grew up in Jos. And these girls are not loosing sleep. Look at genieluv who is a benue girl but she made it clear here that she is proudly more of a Jos girl than a benue girl because all her life has been in Jos. It is ppls choice to identify with where they like and u are in no position to question that!
Nasir el rufai is from katsina but he chose to identify with kaduna, has anyone denied him that? What of Shekarau fron Borno who claims Kano?

Nonsense! U ppl are bent on dividing middlebelt minorities but encourage unity amongst urselves. I only pity the fools who fall for ur deceit.

Geofavor:
You've just said what has been on my mind for some time now.

A lot of people keep their cool because of their because of their religious beliefs. Take that away, and this world won't contain us anymore.

Everyone would define what is good and bad in his or her own way.

For example, Since there is no god( hence no eternal punishment), some people might think it okay to kill people for fun.

Just imagine a world where no one believes in any god; anything will go in that kinda world. Religion actually keeps the world in check.

The world operates based on the rules of religion. Although some of their rules are absurd, every religion preaches peace in one way or the other. And most people easily adhere to it because they believe it was set by one supreme being or the other. Now, If -- in a world where no one beliefs in a supreme being -- we humans decide to make a peace rule, it will not hold. No one would step down for anyone, No one would want to serve anyone and so on.

Religion is one of the factors that keep this world balanced. Take it out, and humanity is doomed!

Let's just leave people to believe what they want and try to be good people.

I am a religious person but i do not think that the fear of religion is really what brings morality and good character to a society. Law and law enforcement is what makes a society stable.

No matter the religion in a society, if there are no legal laws, the society will still be in shambles.
Imagine a religion like christianity where i can kill someone and my enemies would be told to forgive me jn return and pray for me and leave my judgement to God on the day of judgement......... If this is the kind of belief in a country without law, how chaotic do u think such a country would become?

lordkhalifa:
. see tribal mark like wound inflict by angry house wife.... land ko land ni last year one of my cousin was boasting to me how he own 3plots of and in sokoto... come see the way I burst out in laugh... I encourage him to try more harder and get quarter plot in aba or elsewhere in south.. because a plot of land down here can acquire plots I mean acres of land in that desert....

Aba is renowned to be the dirtiest city in Nigeria where pigs roam about freely.
Jos on the other hand is more weather friendly with very peaceful and accomodative hosts. Lush green landscape for heavy agriculture which causes foodstuffs to be very cheap in the state.
Aba is filled with nothing but sex starved igbo traders who grip on everyone especially the ladies they see walking the streets. Ritualists, Kidnappers and scammers everywhere.

Go to Aba and count the number of non indigenes there and compare it with Jos where the settlers may even outnumber the indigenes there. Tell ur igbo brothers to leave Jos first, sadly they cant, the place is too good for them.