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laudate:
Thanks for educating the clueless, bro.'

You're welcome.

Daewang:
Fool did any Igbo address you directly? Will you die if you mind your business for once. Did any Igbo mention you or your tribe or region? As for fulani killings, tell me when last fulani herdsmen killed anyone in the east. On the other hand fulani herdsmen have been using your people for suya and nothing happened. That's how worthless your lives are over there. Everyday is mass burial in your land. I can't remember any mass burial in the east. If you like don't go and face your mass burial region continue carrying Igbo matter for head. Just inform us of the next mass burial so that we can come and eat rice. Anuofia dika gi.

Where were you when fulanis massacred dozens in Ebonyi last month in different attacks? Or should we start posting links?

I can also show you links of mass burial of fulani herdsmen from retaliatory attacks in the middlebelt. Can you show me any in the east?

Igbos opened this thread to ridicule other Nigerians or are you so blind to see the title of the thread? Am I not part of the other Nigerians being mentioned here?

Besides, you people have 'Igbo only' groups on facebook and one useless Biafran social media you created to mimick Nairaland. Why not you guys take these kind of discussions there and masturbate on each other and stop disturbing the peace of other Nigerians on this platform??

Igboid:
On the contrary, Ojukwu offered Gowon and Nigeria, the option of a UN supervised plebiscite on all non Igbo speaking parts of Biafra to prove if Biafra was forcefully annexing the Eastern minorities.

Gowon following a research and advice from his British masters, who reliably informed him that such a plebiscite would lead to 2/3 of the minorities voting for Biafra while rejecting Nigeria, declined the offer.

So, No. At no point did Ojukwu forcefully annexed the minorities areas.

Easy to say this, when Adaka Boro previously declared the Niger delta republic for his people and was clamped down by the same Igbos.

Why did Igbos not support Adaka Boro's Niger-delta republic?

As much as I was never in support of Gowon as a person. His moves and that of Britain were nothing but to outsmart Ojukwu's attempt to grab the minority regions.
Igbos already had a large population and strong presence and influence in these minority areas at that time, one wonders how a fair referendum would have been possible. Would they distinguish people who will vote based on their tribes or residency?

Fast forward today, how much of these eastern minorities favour any sort of nation union with the Igbos? It's obvious that the majority do not.

Daewang:
Instead of you to go and look for solution to the problem of your people who are being slaughtered left, right and center by fulani herdsmen you are here hating Igbos and carrying our matter for your head. Continue while we keep progressing and leave you in the dust. By God's grace one day we will not share the same country.

Did you see me open a thread about Igbos for you to say I am carrying Igbo matters on my head?

You people opened this thread and started dragging other Nigerians to the mud with it.

As if the same fulanis are not killing people in the SE too. What have you lots done about it? Praying and fasting about it like your governor?

Meanwhile there have also been dozens of reprisal killings against Hausa fulanis by our people. How many have been carried out in the SE?

nonaira:
Get the hell away from the rest of una. As far away as we can get. If it's up to me, I'll personally blow up this shithole.



Yeah in Nigeria. A shithole that intentionally tries to destroy any effort Igbo and SS leaders make to benefit their region. Remind us again, who voted against the SEDC proposal that impacted or took money from anyone but SE only. Remind me the reason for the denial
Remind us again who have destroyed every attempt to improve and modify both the rivers port and Calabar ports and equally the newly built onitsha port.



Go and tell that to the ministers who set up the principal of SEDC

Did the same Igbo political leaders not overwhelmingly reject the special status bill for Lagos state? Yes or No?

You cry when you are served a taste of your own medicine, but when you do it to others, your shallow brains seem to easily forget.
In Nigeria, every region has always seem to be anti-other regions. So, remove the mote in your eyes before you try to point out that of others.

That's the only thing I agree with you. Good thing they finally learned that lesson, from what I heard they all returning their money back home. I honestly believe all the Igbos properties in Nigeria would burn. You lots should rot in hell

Agree or not, that is your headache.

And what have the rest of you lots brought out? A nation with militants that blow up pipes. A leader that's hailed religious leader who killed millions in few years. Middle belt leaders that lick the asshole of any northern leaders they can think of all in the determinal of their own people. Remind us again what your governor did when Buhari came to benue despite his early pretence of standing alongside his people over the Fulanis herdsmen slaughter.

Some middlebelt leaders asslick Hausa fulanis, true, at least that can be somehow explainable as middlebelters and Hausa fulanis have been neighbors for centuries and have shared some history together in common. But can you explain how come the likes of Igbos like Okorocha? And tell me, who is a worse Hausa asslicker between the Benue governor and Okorocha. What about the likes of Amaechi, Uzor Kalu et al?
Lest you know one thing, just as Igbos rebuke and call out Hausa asslickers in their midst, middlebelters also do too. Watch out and see if APC will not be sacked out in Kogi, Plateau & Benue in the next election.

Nnamdi Kanu to me was too peaceful for that shithole if you ask me. He should have been as sadistic, delivish and killer towards you pigs. I honestly think he wasted his years being too nice to you animals. I wish he actually did everything you rats accuse him of including that death you said he wanted to do. At least your hate to him would be justified

With your irrational tone of hatred, it's no surprise that people like you are nothing but keyboard warriors, who have absolutely nothing reasonable to offer but to push others into the battle front with your tone and then hide behind your keyboards.
Was it not men like you that were there to defend Nnamdi Kanu and died for him? Since you so much have the tongue to fuel Kanu's rage, don't you think it would have been better if you were with him physically to back your words with actions?

True. Who respect the Igbo founding father? Which Igbo rank Zik in a high rank. To Igbos, Zik is the worst Igbo person ever to be created hence every momentum dedicated to him in Igboland have been destroyed by the youths. Neither his family or his children are respected by any Igbo.

Stories that touch. Should I show you a thread on nairaland where Igbos were praising Zik for establishing the first Nigerian university in Nsukka? And them bragging about it?
It's ironic that you guys will brag about his achievements today and claim to disrespect him tomorrow.

However, that does not still change the fact that people like Zik who rejected the secession clause in our constitution are part of the problems we have today. Not also forgetting the likes of Aguiyi Ironsi who introduced this Current unitary system of govt that destroyed our progress as a people.
I am waiting for you to talk about how Ironsi and his children are disrespected in Igbo land.

Oh please. The middle belters that you are have been keeping this shithole in ransome as well. Were your leaders not screeching Arewa until recently after they started murdering you in your hundreds. I love how you like like claiming it's "Hausa/Fulanis" are the only one holding Nigeria ransome.

Yes, some middlebelt leaders supported one arewa right from time, this is because that was the identity that was forced on our people by the British. Just the same way many Eastern minorities supported one eastern region with the Igbos and many western minorities supported one western region with the yorubas, but today no more.

But don't forget that many other middlebelters have never supported one arewa as well. Don't forget that since the 1950's we had our own political party called the United middlebelt congress (UMBC), which was the largest opposition party in the northern region and won elections in most parts of the middlebelt. And we later joined forces with Awolowo's party to be on the opposition side WHILE you Igbos enjoyed your sizzling political romance with Hausa-fulanis.

Irrational Children and naive teenagers like you think Nigeria started with the 2015 elections and Nnamdi Kanu.

Apart from Igbo and Ijaw, who ever challenged the North on their greediness. Oh and don't give me shit about yoruba. After all, the second they gained power with APC, they immediately went against their restructure standards. They didn't come back to it until Buhari started sidelining them.

Again, Apart from Igbo and Ijaw which of una have ever made any effort to display their dislike for the status quo?

Times over again, Igbos have been proven to only cry the loudest when federal politics do not favour their domination tactics, but as soon as they have influence in the center, they suddenly shut up and start supporting one Nigeria, just as we see during GEJ's era and during the previous republics when Igbos and Hausas were in alliance and yorubas were in opposition.

Ijaws only agitated for their fundamental rights and not challenging the outright oligarchy of the north on behalf of the entire Nigeria.

Teenagers like you will not know the likes of Gideon Orkar who was a middlebelter but never had only the middlebelt at heart. He wanted a country without Hausa-fulanis and Kanuris and made a national call to all middlebelters and southerners to unite and take over. If only he had succeeded in that coup, by now I bet you Igbos would have been enjoying and dominating the new Nigeria without Hausa-fulanis.

What about the Dimka attempted coup? Was it not an attempt of the middlebelt against the core-north's power greediness?

The middlebelt's power and unity sense was completely weakened by the later proliferation of states. If not I dare you to show me how much the middlebelt has alligned with the core-north politically since 1950 till now.. Except during the civil war (which the majority of the south-south people whom you beg for unity today also fought against you too).

And yet I don't see any tangible thing you lots are doing to show that. Other than loud mouthing on social media, what have you lots done? If I recall correctly when Tuface scheduled a walk, wasn't it the so called masses that belittled him.

Name one tangible thing the so called "restructuring seeking masses" are doing? I'll wait.

The fact that other Nigerians are not chanting Nnamdi Kanu or death does not mean we are not working towards restructuring. Series of meetings have been held recently by southern & middlebelt leaders. And we hope for more of those. I also foresee better movements in regards to this coming up, cos the eyes of the masses are being opened gradually and people like myself will surely be part of these movements in the shortest future.
Not until this current age of social media technology, majority of the masses have been living in ignorance.

And who are those ones protecting the leaders?

When okorocha was attacked in Btitain by IPOB, which group attacked Igbos for supporting the ipob member.
When an IPOB members invaded ohaneze event and again attacked them, remind us again the race that screeched like neatherthals.

How many times have Massob, IPOB and all Biafra group insulted, belittled and attacked Igbo leaders, remind us again who oppose the attacks and belittling.


Because they are sellouts hence IPOB, MASSOB are more respected by Igbos than they are. All igbo leaders are very much in aware that their saving Grace is one Nigeria. Once that shithole divides, they know they'll be victims of harsh revenge. Remember that ipob mentioned that they keeping a journal of all Igbo leaders that are sabos and their Justice will come in Biafra. They are very much aware that Nigeria is their saving Grace hence they'll continue fighting against the masses to keep this shithole going.



And so are you along with all the bastard's in that shithole.

A mad man will surely know symptoms of madness

Don't call me again in uour screeching of stupidity.

IPOB received much hate from other Nigerians in return because they started out their campaign on the basis of hatred and insults for other Nigerians, simple and full stop.
As for Massob, I cannot remember seeing other Nigerian masses strongly against them except for the govt.

It's funny how you guys keep on blaming one Nigeria for the nature of your politicians, as if you people are not the ones electing them.
Was it Idomas, Hausas or yorubas that re-elected Obiano? Stupid irrational mindset of naive youths who have nothing to offer other than victim mentality.

Bede2u:
Nowenuse

Thank u nonaira for this. I was just too tired of replying the fool. The Igbos tru several means have tried to challenge the statusquo and have met with stiff resistance from Nigerians and the elite yet this ones is asking silly questions. Ask him wat his tribe has done to change Nigeria for the better.

Bede2u:
Lol....only ogoni ppl and ijaw ppl sabotaged us....the akwa-cross area stood firm till the end. Asaba ppl who were not part of eastern region fought on biafran side.

No region in nigeria who wants to leave can survive the massive gang up against biafra. The boko haram war is a war where the kanuri pple of north east went to establish an independent caliphate like the sokoto caliphate.... have they succeeded? Why? because the rest of Nigeria has said no.

Only Ogoni & Ijaw? What about Ikwerres, Ogba/Ekpeye? The fact that a Cross river man fought as the vice president of Biafra does not mean that all Cross river people supported Biafra.

Why were most of them happy when they finally got their own Cross river state from Gowon? If they were so happy about Biafra?

ZZ22:
The Igbo politicians and Ohaneze are more anti Igbo than Nigerians. Igbo Governors, Senators and Ohaneze and are more evil than Nigerians. Before you expect Nigerians to speak out or show disdain ask yourself what has our governors said? what has been their body language towards all these injustice? look at Fayose, is his immunity different from that of our governors? why have they suddenly gone dumb against the killings by Fulani herdmen but were ready to proscribe and hand over Kanu immediately Buhari asked of his head.

Thank you and God bless you for this. Keep ringing this kind of message to your fellow Igbo brothers who always rant without reasoning. They don't know that the cause and solution to a problem always lies within.

Onenaira1:
OP that's why I have decided to give them that same fucking hate by a billion times and I'm not apologetic about it either. And I'm grateful to God more Igbos are learning to give them back that hate back as well and I pray more Igbos, especially those one Niggerians Igbos, wake the Bleep up. Our parents made the most mistake by EVER seeing those animals as 'brethren' and v treating them like humans, only to get hate back from those ugly ass pigs. Whenever I see those animals wailing on IPOB and "hate speech", I feel like spitting in the face of those hypocritical animals. I always find it hilarious when those animals wail about Igbo laughing at their dead victims yet forgetting they started that shit. Hell fucking yeah I will laugh, mock and maybe even fucking party on knowing Boko Haram and/or Fulanis herdsmen are slaughtering una by your thousands exactly the same way you pigs laughed and locked Massob, IPOB and other Igbo group were killed extra judicary

Swear to you, you really don't know how much I fucking despise that shithole and every worthless, useless, animalistic Savage tribes located in that shithole especially those Southwest demons. I wish nothing but hell for that shithole and I'm grateful to God that piece of shit stays Being a hellhole till the point other Africans use them to laugh at. Those animals deserve nothing but disaster every month and thank Hod that stays happening.

Any Igbo I see treating those animals with any form of respect Or even an ounce of love to me is a complete, utter, ediot.

Very good for you that wish Nigeria a lot of evil.

I would have loved to do so too, but I know that no matter what, my people are still trapped down there and yours are too.
Keep wishing the 'hell hole' evil when all your relatives are still there. You think emancipation can ever be gotten by hatred. No, it can only come from logical thinking.

Bede2u:
Dont quote me when u type rubbish bro

Then you guys should stop disturbing our peace!

Bede2u:
In 1966, the Igbos all resigned and went back to the east like u suggested....why didnt Nigeria divide then?

The yorubas who were all no where to be found when Abiola was robbed of his victory and his wife killed?

The hausas? Probably the weakest tribe in Nigeria! Has an hausa man ever ruled Nigeria? U guys watched as just a few fulani ppl colonised u all. The most backward tribe in Nigeria...the least intelligent tribe. Even vp post hausa never see! Every core hausa man should hide his face. Disgraceful ppl

Hausas are a lost tribe. No amount of insults you will give to them inspires any form of remorse from amongst them. The person you are talking to will most likely be a fulani.

Besides, I think Nigeria did not divide then in 1966 cos the Igbos were taking the Southern minorities against their wish. Why did most Eastern minorities betray the Igbos at that time?

Bede2u:
when will nigeria divide? Why not now?

Why don't you divide it yourself since you are tired of it the most?

Simple, contest for the position of a federal lawmaker or governor in your state and spearhead that notion. Or are you too cowardly to make the move?

Bede2u:
Lol...I must really have hit a nerve for u to be compelled to write this novel.

Pre 1966 when all tribes and regions were given a level playing field, the richest Nigerian was Igbo. The east was the economic hub of the nation (if u discount Lagos the capital).

Fast foward to after the war and when merit has been jettisoned....u now get Yorubas and hausas who are all oil billionaires (minus dangote and rabiu who are govt puppets).

Igbos are the least poor region in Nigeria regardless of all ur injustices against us. We are the ones opening up those new factories in ogun and lagos. We are the ones bringing back all those foreign exchange from abroad. We are the ones taking advantage of bans on import to manufacture replicas in Aba. We are the ones bold enough to go and open a shop in the most dreaded area of the north. We are the ones currently buying choice property in Abuja...after u guys will start crying that igbos must leave Abuja.

We the ones u love to hate...we are igbos

Your first statement is completely false!

Ibadan was far more progressive than Enugu after independence.
Even Kaduna/Kano I believe have always been more progressive than Enugu or any other city in Igbo land.

horsepower101:
That has already been debunked on nairaland so many times over the years.

It was in fact the British that insisted on no secession as one of the conditions of granting independence.

cc; Pazienza, Igboid


Also the first Mayor of Enugu after independence was a Fulani man elected by Igbos. What Zik was trying to do in the west was not out of the norm.

It was after yorubas cross carpeted overnight and injected tribalism that Nigeria's early political progress began declining.

Ok, we agree. Other Nigerians hate Igbos.

But after all the crying and moanings of victim mentality, what next? What next, I ask again?

Really, for a tribe like Igbo who claim to be so creative, industrious and wise. I have really not seen any extra-creative pan-ethnic decisions embarked on by you guys, in spite of all the millionaires and billionaires from your region.

Can't you guys come together with your state governments, form a sort of economic and regional coalition with the South-South state governments (for access to sea ports) and develop your land to be the Dubai of Africa?
I mean, apart from your large numbers of wealthy men and women, you have governors, senators, house of reps, ministers etc. Can't all these people use their brain and come together for once to make a move that will shake Africa? Then let's see how the FG and other Nigerians will come to sabotage these efforts.

But instead, your people prefer to flee your homelands and migrate everywhere else and claim to be developers of other places.

The best you people could come out with was that Illogical childish behaving Nnamdi Kanu with no respect for quality reasoning and productivity.

Arrant nonsense. See, you people should stop disturbing other Nigerians with your victim menality nonsense cos you are responsible for your own problems.
Igbo founding fathers were part of the creators of the hell hole one Nigeria we find ourselves today.

Hausa-fulani elites are the only ones holding one Nigeria ransome and massively benefiting from the status quo. And guess what, they do this in connivance with your own Igbo elites and political class.

The average middlebelter like me, Niger deltan, Yoruba or Hausa masses are not benefiting from the status quo. That is why we support restructuring.

The fight of you Igbo masses should be against your own elites who have sold you over to the Hausa-fulani elites for their pocket gains. How many times have Igbo political class challenged the core-northern elites against the existence of one Nigeria? See how they shamelessly sold Nnamdi Kanu over, and you people would come here to disturb our peace!

Why did all Igbo politicians not take a unified stance in support of Kanu against Buhari, just like all the Hausa-fulani politicians in 2001 took a unified stance against President OBJ on sharia law, to the extent that OBJ was helpless about the issue?

It is really said that, ''The moment a mad man becomes aware that he is mad, he becomes well''.

Some people are mad, but do not know they are.

Daewang, Hiddenshadow, onenaira1, Bede2u

olaniyi50:
I agree with you, but I'd prefer to say "ruler in an Arab country". Most Muslims are Arab, but most Arabs are not Muslims.

You are very wrong. Most muslims are not Arabs to begin with. The Indian subcontinent (India, Pakistan and Bangladesh) has around 600 million muslims combined and they are not Arabs nor do they have any relationship with Arabs.
Infact they are more than both Arab muslims and christians combined.

Indonesia is the largest muslim country in the world and they are not arabs. Their culture is even closer to chinese culture than Arabic culture.

Even in the middle east, there are over 100 millions muslims who are persian, Kurdish and Turkish and are not Arabs in any way.

What about Central Asia and the Caucus where you Azeris, Tajiks, Turkmens, Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Chechens etc who are muslims and have no relationship whatsoever with Arabs? What about Eastern European muslims like Bosnians? Albanians?

Infact, Arabs are not up to half of the muslim population worldwide. They should be around 30%.

fk001:
Have you ever heard of "Ganwari of Ganye" he is also addressed as Emir but locally his people address him as Ganwari

Gangwari Ganye is an entirely different case here!

What about Hamma Bachama in the same Adamawa state, can you dare go an call him Emir?

Not all northern tribes buy into that nonsense Emirate title.
Can you go to Wukari and adress the Aku Uka Wukaari as Emir and see if Jukuns will not remove your head? What about Attah of Igala land in Kogi?

The fact that some northern tribes threw away their identity for a fulani imported identity does not mean that all did. Know the boundaries.

igbodefender:
The title of the ruler of Jos is Gbpm Gwom, as in Gnam Gwom Jos [insert name].

But I sha get your point.

There is no point for you to get there!

Jos king has no relationship whatsoever with an Emir. Likewise Borno king. That foreign nonsense Emir title was brought by Danfodio and Danfodio never conquered Jos-Plateau nor Borno.

wingmanII:
Never heard of emir of Jos. They have Bongwam Jos or something of that nature.

Don't mind that foolish fellow spreading lies all over.
Perhaps he was the one who turbanned an Emir in Jos.

It is GBON GWOM JOS. Jos never had any relationship with an emirate

fk001:
Emir of Jos is a Christian and he takes the title "Emir"



There are a lot of kings from Christian minorities tribes in the North with the title "Emir"




But what the Emir of Osun did was uncalled, to be honest is a slap on Yoruba face

Are you sure that you are mentally stable? Since when did Jos have an Emir? Are you the one that turbanned him? Pls learn to keep shut if you know nothing!

Jos has only the GBON GWOM JOS as a traditional ruler.

Never you attach the word JOS and EMIR in the same sentence. What an insult!

mrde:
I don't know about his mum sha but i doubt its true. There are quit a lot of Christian bolewas especially in yobe state. As for the population, it's more than 40% i think its more liike 60%

Ok thanks. What state are you from?

DrinkLimca:
If i was dating Amarabae i will gladly break up with her for 100 naira MTN recharge card.

Lol. . This is epic! Lmao

Why are many people surprised? This is not a new practice among fulanis. Na old thing na

Bede2u:
their fears are they dont want an overwhemingly christian republic of south nigeria...where they would be minority. Baseless fear if u ask me. However, a strong leader like tinubu who is pro south. A leader respected like tinubu in the west and respected by igbos for being pro south can rally every southerner just as nnamdi kanu rallied every igboman (including me)

Meanwhile which part of mb are u from

Exactly! Believe you me or not. Most Yoruba and middlebelt muslims as much as they are more enlightened and know how Hausas are taking this country backward, they still enjoy the company of Hausa-fulanis in this country.

I was an admin in the largest online middlebelt forum for instance and there was just this kind of sympathy I observed among most middlebelt muslims for Hausa-fulanis. This sympathy is also with most yoruba muslims.
These yoruba and middlebelt muslims can never value an alliance with Igbos against the Core -north. Never.

I am from Plateau.

shervydman:
Taxes will be paid by all states or regions, Hausa/Fulani regions will pay tax too..... infact, north is endowed than d south in terms of mineral resources, they don't just know how to exploit it..... all d monies accrued by federal government won't be excessive, it can only maintain it purpose n not to develop any unproductive state or region irrespective of who or who is d president.

Yes you have a point, maybe when the money from Abuja is no longer very attractive, just maybe then will core-northern leaders put their brains to work and stand for the development of their people. On the positive side.

On the negative side. States will pay tax as percentages of their income. It will not be a fixed amount. You cannot expect Lagos & Jigawa to pay same amount of tax to the centre.
Now, southern states will definitely pay more taxes as their states will be more progressive. So, if at the end of the day you have 90% of the tax money coming from the south, but being controlled by a northern prime minister, of what difference would it be?

shervydman:
There's nothing like Yoruba Muslim or whatever in d SW, those terms are used for division purposes. Yorubas don't discriminate each other.

Yes I know, when it is yorubas with themselves, religious differences does not exist, but when it comes to the national stage, these differences creep in.

If not, can you tell me why it is almost impossible to see yoruba muslims vocally and unapologetically against Buhari? Unlike many yoruba christians who were never supporters of Buhari.

Chill, this happens in the middlebelt too. In Kogi & Nasarawa for instance when Igalas or Alagos are with each other, there is no religious differences, they are one! Even in state politics, An Igala muslim will rather support an Igala christian than an Ebira muslim. Yes.

But when you go to National politics, the story changes! You find more Igala muslims supporting Buhari and more Igala christians criticizing Buhari.

Why is this so?

Bede2u:
First of all is this....the yoruba muslims u mentioned fought an intelectual war against the north after june 12. It tells u that yoruba muslims can go against the north when it suits them.
Secondly is this...the north is no longer united. Kwara, benue, taraba, kogi and jos may most likely not find the leader who would rally them again for the core north like in the olden days and like in 2015
3rdly....yorubas helped the north to fight biafra...yorubas helped the north to organise coups up on coups in this country and yorubas were part of military juntas... i dare say they can fight when they aint being cowardly. Are they not the ruthless ogun skull miners?
4thly a united south will go all out against the north, with 60 years anger of collective injury from the north.
SE will remember the civil war injuries. SW will remember the june 12 injury. SS will remember their oil that the north took from them. Collectively the south will remember that it is kill or be killed. The south will win.

Yoruba muslims will only fight when it is of strict tribal interests! But when it is for national interests or collective southern interests against the north, I doubt they will. Can't you see what people like Ishaq Akintola of Muric are doing?

As soon as Hausa fulanis claim that the christians are against muslims in Nigeria, watch how yoruba muslims and Kogi muslims and other middlebelt muslims will drop this southern unity sharp sharp!

Yoruba muslims can only stand against Hausas when it is a strict Hausa vs Yoruba issue.

Only when a very ruthless crop of pro-southern Yoruba leaders take over yoruba land before yoruba muslims can ever value a united southern alliance over Islamic bond, not with people like Tinubu leading the yorubas.

shervydman:
The tax will be used to regulate d economy, for military expenses n foreign affairs expenditure. No state or region will be developed by federal govt under federalism.

Yes, this is what is expected to be obtainable in a normal sane restructured country right? But we are talking of Hausa fulanis here. Can't you see the way they are behaving in Nigeria without regard for any law?

Do you think they will suddenly turn a new leaf in a restructured country? And ask yourself. If a prospective bigot Hausa fulani prime minister uses the central tax for his people. Who will challenge him?? The current toothless and cowardly Southern politicians? Think again.
Even when the core-north was not in power during OBJs tenure, did they not go ahead and establish sharia law against the federal constitution in their states? Who could stop them?

Omololu2121:
with the way Nigeria is currently structured, even by 2040,we will still be an underdevelope country.

If we renegotiate,every region might choose to have it's military personnel, any region that does not agree to this can opt out of the federation.

When babaginda was in power,he do talk of vision 2000.

When abacha was in power he do talk of vision 2010

When yaradua got there he do talk of vision 2020

But look at how messed up we still are in 2018

If we wanna tell ourselves the truth nothing is working in this country,if Nigeria does not exist most of the regions won't have it this bad,when i started traveling out to countries like SA,Algeria, canada,china etc that's when I know say we dey suffer for Nigeria.

In fact I spent a week in port novo,and dem no take light at all,I spent two weeks at a friend house in Nairobi, dem no take light at all...when I was in Beijing, China I do eat as if there is no tomorrow.

In this Nigeria, I'm not enjoying anything been a citizen of Nigeria,there is no light at all today,nah Gen I dey use since 6:25,now the time it's 22:16 yet I never see light.

Nigeria it's so mess up,nothing can work.

We need to make local government autonomous, local government it's so useless in Nigeria

A lot of us know all these things, but most of our people still do not know all these things cos they have never left their towns, let alone traveling out of the country. That is why they can die on top APC and Buhari matter and do not care about development?
Do you think the average Hausa illiterate mallam who has never left Daura will ever understand the English you are speaking, let alone what you are saying? And guess what? These illiterate mallams are the overwhelming majority in the north, while the few educated ones are the elite class who will rather die than see the status quo which favours them to change.
So, how can a country like this progress?

Do we keep complaining on our keyboards or do we get up and be the change that we want to see?

01Alpha:
What you need to understand is this, if truly the north wanted out, there would be another uproar from the east in the next five years, when its starts I want you guys to demand for you independent so its would be uniformly. UN would have no option. This time around our politicians would be taken care of..

EazyMoh seems to be saying the truth. The average northerner does not really care if Nigeria stays together or disintegrates. The fulani/hausa political, religious and elite class are the ones in charge of everything. Whatever they tell the masses, the masses obey without questioning...

Unfortunately, your southern leaders too seem to be enjoying their privileged looting position and elite class and may never want the status quo to change.

Bede2u:
Mehn I wish the south can unite against the north. I dont want u guys to agree to restructure just yet. I want u to thirst the fury of a united south first. So u can understand the wickedness in the hearts of an ogoni, Ngwa and ijebu killer

A united south can never be possible, not with yoruba muslims.

Also, a united south can never withstand a united north. Kpata kpata e go end for war. And if you think the yorubas will be willing to go for any war, then you are on a long thing.

Omololu2121:
that's why southern politicians need to sit down together and talk,we must let the north know if we can't renegotiate the structure of this country then it's better we all go our different ways,it will be better to do it when we have a southerner that believes in dissolution of Nigeria in power at the federal level.

The southern president will start by sending every military and paramilitary personal back to their state of origin,and also make sure he redistribute every weapons equally among the 6 geopolitical zone,if the north do not agree to restructuring, then the whole southern state should declare the south an autonomous country.

If there is war it should be the whole south against the north,the side with more money to buy weapons shall win the war.

But it's only possible with fresh southern politicians that believes in dissolution of this hell hole called Nigeria.

You are very correct. But if you think this current crop of southern leaders can do what you are talking about, then you are totally mistaken.....

Only you, I and people like us can come together and do what you are talking about. This current southern generation of youths.
Sometimes the older generation i.e the current political leaders to me appear no different from each other, whether they are from north or south. They seem somehow comfortable with the status quo. The few ones who manage to do anything only make noise without taking any serious steps.

That 'Southern messiah' who will unite the south and perhaps the middlebelt together to take one stance against the core-north on restructuring cannot come from this current generation of political leaders.

Mind you, I am from the middlebelt. I strongly hope to form or be part of the formation of a very strong political alliance of the south & middlebelt in the future to forcefully put things right, cos I do not have hope in this current middlebelt and southern leaders. All they do is bark without doing anything.


Besides. Even if there is restructuring i.e state/regional control of rescources, the military still cannot be divided. No single country can have a divided military. Not even a confederacy of states like the united kingdom.
The proposed prime minister or president will still be commander of the united armed forces. And believe you me, Hausa fulanis will still be ready to die to control that presidency which controls the international policies and the military, so that they can dominate the military.

And don't forget that there will still be heavy taxation of the progressive states/regions in a restructured govt to the centre. What do you think this central tax would be used for by a Hausa/fulani prime minister for instance? Simple -- To develop the north, or share to the northern elites at the centre.

The truth is that, only full blown seccession can completely remove the middlebelters and southerners from Hausa-fulani domination and parasitism in Nigeria, or a permanent political alliance between the South & middlebelt to continue to supress the core-north. And you know that the latter is almost impossible. Cos Hausa fulanis will always continue to use religion to gain support from Yoruba muslims and middlebelt muslims.

Omololu2121:
southerners are still not serious about this restructuring issue.

Cause even if the core north does not agree to it,then the south should pull out of the Union, if it will lead to war,there is no way the north can have an advantage over a united south and does not even have enough resources to go to war against south.

We need a southerner that will believe in restructuring or division.

Southern politicians do not have the balls to make that happen.
The restructuring cause can not work in National political parties like APC or PDP with a lot of Hausa fulani leaders.

Omololu2121:
I believe southern politicians are the cause of this nonsense, the south needs to unite and ask for restructuring, and if the north does not agree,then the south should leave the Union, if the north want war,then it should be giving to them.

Men like gej were not serious about restructuring, we need a southern president that will restructure this country, if the northerners does not agree,then we should all go our different ways

And you think these southern coward politicians will ever be ready to face the north in a war?..

Until there is a very strong political unity between the entire south and the middlebelt, we can never face the north or be a threat to them. It just won't happen.

And don't forget that there will be many Southern and middlebelt saboteurs who will prefer to align with the core-north because of religion.