₦airaland Forum

hedonistic:
Very true.

In spite of the mistrust and suspicion between Igbo and Yoruba , I think if you cut out the core Muslim North, the rest of the country (South East, South West, South South and what we know as the Middle Belt) can live very peacefully together and build a very prosperous and strong country. These parts of the country, in spite of their ethnic differences, essentially have similar ways of life and outlook. They are socio-culturally compatible. The evidence is there in for instance, the music industry and Nollywood. How many Hausa/Fulani musicians do you know in Nigeria's mainstream music industry today? How many Hausa/Fulani actors do you know in Nigeria's modern Nollywood?

The North is the biggest obstacle to Nigeria's progress because they simply aren't compatible with the rest of the country. The Islamic fanaticism and educational backwardness of the North makes them better suited to team up with their brothers in Niger Republic, Chad, etc.

Gbam. This is nothing but the truth. I wonder when we middlelters and southerners will fully come to this realization and work together as a people to liberate ourselves from this region called core-north.

I am from the middlebelt and I only believe in One Nigeria with the south and excluding the core-north.

Late Gideon Orkar from Benue also saw this too and that was why he wanted to become head of state and cut off the core-north from Nigeria.

The only problem to this is religion. The core north always uses religion to gain support from Yoruba & middlebelt muslims.

XhosaNostra:
Lol, that's better, in my culture, they give you a new name altogether. You'll no longer even be "Isabella", you'll be "Lorraine"

They say it's because marriage is a new identity. Whatever you did under your "old name", is now put behind you, including the name itself. You're turning on a new page as a new being, someone's wife. It's always funny watching new brides when they're still coming to terms with their new given names. You'll be calling them & they won't respond because they still haven't gotten used to them.

The new names are usually nice & meaning though.

Now I see why they say that the south African culture is very patriarchal. Does this still happen in this modern day?
How do women cope with document changes and official settings with this name change?

yemi15:
Yes, so true, how can one then know when said by a white man which one it is as the nigger word especially is very offensive?

As a white man, never use the word. The word is even banned and against the law over there, but black people still use it on each other since it is very acceptible in the black community.

There is no difference with Nigger & Nigga. Just that as a non- black man, never use it.

olaboy1:
Lagos may be very stressful to live in terms of transport mobility, but the state is making a huge progress in road construction.
Food is expensive in Lagos because of the cost of transporting food items from north, but it’s still manageable.
If Lagos state continues on this path, it’s going to compete favorably with all the perks of Abuja planned city.

Lagos needs to fix more BRT dedicated lanes and provide more buses. It’s the most lively city in Nigeria so far. One should be able to catch BRT by 1am from Surulere to go clubbing in Festac without any fears.

I will still give it up for Lagos because no city in the world is capable of managing over 20m people like Lagos is doing.

Both cities have pros and cons. If you are a young upcoming entrepreneur then it’s better to start from Lagos because Lagos prepares you for life.

You made some good points. However, Lagos can never compete with Abuja in terms of cheap foodstuffs. This is because Abuja is situated right in the middle of the foodbelt of Nigeria and it is quite easily accessed by farmers from neighbouring states where farming activities are highest in Nigeria.
Unless Southwestern states start competing with the north in terms of farming, then I don't see how Lagos will have cheaper food than Abuja.

Transportation will also continue to remain very cheap in Abuja cos most of the locals who engage in transportation business are not greedy like their southern counterparts, they tend to be very content with what they receive. Well maybe cos the Agbero culture is non-existent over there.
Can Lagos state get rid of the agbero culture? I don't think so.

Lastly, just as Lagos state is working too, don't think that FCTA are folding their hands and sleeping.. They are working seriously to integrate Abuja satelite towns to the main town with a better road network and infrastructural development.

Lagos will only continue to beat Abuja in terms of Job availability cos Abuja has no seaport. Nothing else.

yemi15:
Watch it again, the intonation alone does it

Well, I consider that to be a white intonation. Or not?

I know that generally in the US, it is offensive for whites to use the Nigga word for a black person, but very much acceptable for a black person to use it on a black person.

yemi15:
No, check out Django unchained and how true Southern white man mentions that word

Hmm, I watched that movie again few weeks ago. Seems like I don't really notice the difference.

martineverest:
there was a typo in the last comment

*the police weren't jailed.

Of course I saw that. I knew it was a mistake.

martineverest:
the innocent African was shot 49 times by American police ,thinking he was holding a gun......they later realised he wasn't holding any.they police men went jailed.

if u notice,that music started with 49 gunshots

Yeah thanks.

yemi15:
There is a difference, one is mentioned as a term of endearment for blacks while one is inherently racist

Hmm, aren't they pronounced in the same way?

yemi15:
Actually, it is the word "nigger" that is offensive, not the "nigga" you quoted

What is the difference?

Follygunners:
Cool... You're still considered an Indomie ooo... (Generation 'Y'). At least you now know why the song was sang and dedicated to the guy.

Hmm, So, I take it that Indomie generation refers to all those born in the 90s. Even those of the early 90s?

Follygunners:
I'm NOT trying to denigrate at all. I'm just being objective!

I take it, you're an indomie generation, right? Try and listen to it... You'll love it.

It's simply about a Guinean Immigrant named 'Diallo". He was wrongfully shot multiple times by a NYPD officer which stir so much public opposition, media attention and racial tension.

Lol. Indomie generation kwa. I am in my mid 20s.

I know the song very well and I can even sing it to you from beginning to the end. I just did not understand the message of the song. Wayback, I used to listen to songs just because I loved them and not cos I understand their message.

martineverest:
reminds me of diallo

I always listened to that song in the past but never knew what it was about. What was it really about?

Follygunners:
I'm not so sure of what happened and, of course, it's very sad. Nevertheless.... I'm NOT trying to be judgmental but, I got this to say...

The thing is very sad indeed BUT I kinda get sick and tired of the way these Akata folks behave for the most part. They're very disrespectful, belligerent, unnecessarily arrogant coupled with a negative behavior/demeanor.

They tend to pass across a negative message and perception. They get unnecessarily defensive and always trying to prove something just to score some stupid points. They never listen to simple instructions.. animals @ best hence, they're regarded as "Akata".

They fail to realize these sometimes trigger-happy cops (sometime over-zealous) have had enough of their colleagues being killed for honorably and innocently performing their daily responsibilities. Other than the Diallo dude killed by a NY cop (listen to the Wyclef song "Diallo"...for those that cares to know) how many other blacks (immigrants) that have fallen prey to this form of violence? Very few!

Just an FYI... These Akata folks are the laziest bunch of humans on the planet! . They're a disgrace to the black race and of course... we blacks aren't good for anything anyways..

R.I.P to the dead!

The way you are denigrating the black race here, it seems as if you are white.

That aside, I'd like you to tell me about that Wyclef song 'Diallo'you talked about. What was it really about?

mtis:
ya just killed man ...Hakuna matata

Wewe ni wivu tu. Ninasema swahili bora kuliko wewe
Ninasema kama watu wa Tanzania.

mtis:
haah ya just pissed off that we are having great stuff happening here...We wouldnt miss you guys anyway..an this African thingy need to stop..w'll call ourselves wakandanians just to show you how advanced we are

Good luck to you guys and have fun with Somalians and AlShabaab in your new continent.

mtis:
Sup Nowenuse...i can see you down there

Ninafanya vizuri. Ambapo ni dada yako TayserMahiri ?

Muafrika2:
I lived for sometime in the rift valley and can assure you that there were alot of under reported earthquakes. The kind that shakes ground floor buildings. That means they are not average tremours.

It's become so normal that they don't even make the days conversation beyond 5 minutes after they happen.

This will happen sooner than expected

Mwenye hiyo kaproti Sijui ana feel aje sasa

You, mtis and Tashamaria aka TayserMahiri need to know that this is good news to me and most Africans.

Very good news. At least, the largest slums (Kenya) in the world and the largest terrorist zone in Africa (Somalia) will no longer be in Africa.
This means we will have fresher air to breathe in Africa.

I will only really miss my sweet Tanzanian peeps . But at least, it's worth it, cos ugliness will drastically reduce in Africa once Kenya leaves. Lol

SamoaJoe:
Honestly, I have always envisioned the day Yorubas will agree with the East and say that its all over... To your tents O Isreal. Within 2 years;

Oduaa Air
Biafran Airways

Oduaa Defense Forces
Biafran Defence Forces

Oduaa International University
Biafran International University

Oduaa Space Centre
Biafran Space Centre

Something strongly tells me that these Northern Animals are the people drawing us back. Having Buhari in Power again will set Nigeria on a course that will take eternity to solve. The North is a dead wood on the South.

These Country needs to be destroyed and foundationally rebuilt.

Stop wishing! Get your lazy ass up and do something about it. ''If wishes were horses, beggars would ride on them'' as they say.

Work hard to have good money, Start a group of enlightened people and make some great influence starting from your state. Involve yourself in politics and aspire to be a leader to your people. If you are a leader to your own people first of all, you can shape the way most of them think. After having great influence among your own people, reach out to other enlightened and progressive top people from other regions and form a progressive movement to unite the southern region and if possible the middlebelt along.
If we can achieve this combined force as a people, rest assured, the core-north can be put in their place in Nigeria and if possible this entity dissolved.

Nobody ever gets anything good by wishing. People like Martin Luther King had to lay down their lives for African Americans to be enjoying the privileges they have in the USA today. Nothing good ever comes easy. There must be a group of men willing to lay down their lives. The communist party of China founding fathers were ready to sacrifice their lives to make China what it is today.
Grow some balls and start working in this direction or just shut up and stop wishing. Wishing has never changed anything.

ebby9z:
I hate BBN, I hate the hype. I hate the fact that majority of Nigerian youths could care less about the state of their own country. I hate the fact that my female colleagues are always talking about it and can't even relate when I try to talk to them about Nigeria.

American youths watch reality shows too, go to parties and stuff but are very knowledgeable about the state of their nation, their history and their polity.

You shouldn't be surprised. Most women are very feeble minded. They know nothing about politics nor the affairs of their country. The only topics they can contribute anything meaningful to are topics about cooking, relationships and love affairs, make-ups/ cosmetics and telemundos/zee world. .... Nothing else.

teacherbim:
I registered for a new voters card in January, was given a temporary one, I took it to my bank to correct an error with my BVN but I was told that is not valid, I don't understand oooo, should I go back there for another registration right, pls help your sister, thanks

As I was told, If you register, It takes at least 6 months or thereabout for your details to be permanently registered in the system. So, a fresh temporary card cannot be valid just yet, until after a long while. It happened to me too.

IME1:
Sad
I know someone who has used over 3k credit to vote
Vote with no returns
It's sad
I have my pvc, my polling centre is quiet a distance
But I hope to vote come 2019
God keeping us.
I pray our votes count
And we have good returns
A better living condition with better policies
and humane leaders, less corruption
Competitive development with world powers not
Just Rwanda and Ghana or South Africa
Better health, education, power, security, infrastructure and nationalistic outlook
Not religious or ethnic or political or social class or educational level
But true nationalism.
God please, let me see this Nigeria, live in it, work in it,be part of it, and let us not have a long way to go, make our way as a country possible, feasible, and miraculous, amen

Nigeria can never progress wIithout restructuring. Take it or leave it.

ERORR404:
I don't just know what is wrong with my generation,they have the time to vote - out and re vote - in housemates,but most of them don't even have PVC for the Forthcoming general elections.
I'm 20 years old and i have my PVC locked and loaded,waiting for 2019 yet,my elder brother's friend who is in his early thirties,got no PVC, but is talking of who to vote back into the bbnaija house.

"LEADERS OF TOMORROW"

Since you are 20 and you have your PVC, pls when did you register?
I registered last year July, I don't know if my PVC would be out by now.

Mitsurugi:
This scenario reminds me of KNOCK-KNOCK a thriller film featuring Keanu Reeves. If you watch that movie and what those two she-devils did you'll never accept two sexy women into your crib again. No matter the lure of their hips! Shege!

I've seen the movie. Seriously, this tells us how powerful 2 people can be against 1 person, even if they are children or women.

doctorkush:
Fine babe... She should start avoiding Muslims from now on or else ... If she is not beheaded, naa bomb go find her for that UK...

Awon serial killers...

I don't think she was even a muslim or married to a muslim in the first place. She most like is a coptic Egyptian Christian from her names.... Don't forget that there are about 10 million christians in Egypt.

fratermathy:
Suit yourself. The point has been made.

Don't push your royal delusions too far. Delta is not part of Benin kingdom! Almost all polities in Delta have their own Kings! Perhaps, what you intended to express was the fact that the Benin Kingdom, in their usual manner, did not allow any king near Benin to flourish without paying tributes to the Oba.

However, paying tributes to a king who used his military might to threaten others is not the same as being under his kingdom. You guys should try and do a little research on what defines a people or a polity as being part of a kingdom. Two Kings cannot exist in a kingdom! As long as the polities in Delta had and has Kings, they never were, are not and will never be part of Benin kingdom. You can stop your delusion with Edo State. Don't take it out of there and push your luck!

The point has been made. Don't mention me to blabber like a toddler.

Efewestern:
Let me correct this.. @bolded Delta state is not part of Bini kingdom, You kingdom starts and ends in your Edo state, this is not 1800 or 14000.

Funny how you accuse others of domination while on the other hand you are busy trying to dominate other ethnic group in Delta state , this is 2018 , wake up.. Deltans only respect the Bini kingdom, they are not under them or inferior to any group/race/tribe including your overrated Bini kingdom.

Limit your stuff to Edo state. Thanks.

Great comments from you guys.

Many Benin people so much like to overrate the power of the ancient Bini kingdom, just because the kingdom was the most coastal of all ancient Nigerian kingdoms and by virtue of that had early contacts with European sailors.

Benins forget that there are ancient Nigerian kingdoms who were larger and more developed than them in many aspects.
Before colonialism, Benins never read nor wrote anything, they largely relied on folklore for passing down or storing any information, whereas the people of Sokoto sultanate, Kanem-Bornu kingdom and Kwararafa kingdom were already largely literate and could read and write before white people came. They even developed writing systems of their own languages in Arabic script.

Benins walked on barefoot and largely practiced human sacrifice, while ancient northern kingdoms were already riding horses and camels with shoes and going for pilgrimages, travelling and trading with the middle-east.

I am not trying to denigrate the Benin kingdom or her achievements in any way, I cherish and respect their great history but they must know that the history of Nigeria or west Africa does not revolve around them.

There were other greater empires in west africa like that of Mali whom the Benins if compared with them cannot match them in any aspect, yet we don't see Malians disturbing everyone else with their history and claiming everyone else in west africa. Today, Nigerians are dominating Mali in west african politics.
Kanuris and Kwararafans once defeated and ruled Hausas in the past, but today, Hausas are heavily dominating Kanuris and Kwararafans in northern Nigeria. History always change and people have to move on regardless.

fratermathy:
Please just stop blabbering and follow the thread from the first page. Nowenuse is not Yoruba and he has made that obvious times without number. I am a Deltan and trust me, Yorubas did not impose their hegemony on us. The issue my people had with them has already been established on this thread and it was nothing like forcing their language or culture on us.

You Bini people seem to have an ego issue with the Yorùbá people. Don't extend that micro-issue to the entire minorities in the then Western region. No one is fighting the Benin kingdom. Stop it already with the paranoia!

Finally, you keep mentioning the British without any regard for the fact that the discussion Nowenuse and I have been engaged in is set in the early postcolonial period. Whatever the colonial masters intended effectively ended in 1960 and whatever happened after that became the wish of Nigerians or her leaders.

Don't mind that prolog2 of a guy. I think he is a troll. I now remember that I have encountered him before in a previous thread. He just likes to argue without any reasonable understanding of the discourse at hand. Can't you see the way he just jumped into the thread with arrogance? Completely ignoring all the past discussions. I will not even waste my time to reply him again.

Imagine him addressing me as a yoruba.
While I acknowledge the fact that yorubas played some divide and rule tactics to western minorities. It is very obvious that western minorities were the least dominated among the Nigerian minorities during the regional govts and it was not even as if western minorities were much in numbers or even had what it takes to challenge yorubas in terms of anything.
Eastern minorities and northern minorities by far outnumbered western minorities in population, yet they still experienced more domination by Igbos & Hausa -fulanis..
Igbos and Hausas went as far as annexing minority territories and massacring minority uprisings into submission .... Anyone can see that Hausas & Igbos are very power-hungry by nature compared to Yorubas and this was exactly what played out in the old regions. ... So this is why if a western minority talks of suffering domination in the old regional govts, it is seen as a joke compared to what eastern & northern minorities experienced.

prolog2:
Wherever you are getting your data, you need to burn that place down.
The few Edo who know yoruba do so because of either time spent in yoruba towns or rests from the period in which yoruba were trying to force their language upon everybody in the west. I don't recall asking you if you were yoruba. The fact that you feel the need to claim not being yoruba exposes a large pro-yoruba biase on your part, perharps you are yoruba.


Once again, you need to burn the place in which you are getting your informations, your info is not accurate. No part of Edo-state speaks yoruba, or "a yoruba dialect". And please I would like to know what makes a language a "yoruba dialect" because it seems very easy to characterize languages and peoples as being yoruba.

We fought them off by getting our land and people out of the western region and into a region of our own (The midwest)

Now it seems you are an illiterate in history.
What you are talking about are historical impossibilities.
The Benin Kingdom was already an established and powerful Kingdom which was defeated by the british and that is how it ended up in nigeria.
Even in their wildest dreams the yoruba never had any power to do what you are talking about in the Benin Kingdom (the balance of power was the other way around).
You don't seem to understand that the political power the yorubas had was given to them by their british masters (as thank you for their unnopposed servitude to the british), the yoruba had no power of their own. It really seems that you are verry confused. You seem to not know who exactly was the colonial power and who was taking orders from whom ?
For your info in the colonial era, the haussas, the igbo and the yoruba didn't give orders to the british as you seem to think, it went the other way around, that is why it was called "colonial era".
So what you are saying is a historical impossibility.

I have observed that you are someone who just loves arguing with extreme bigotry and bitterness for the sake of arguing.

If you do not know that the natives of Usen (Uhen) town in Ovia south west, Benin, speak yoruba as a first language and you are not bothered to find out, then I'm sorry, no hope for any further discussions between you and I and never you quote me anymore.

You used the word 'you yorubas' in your previous comment to me and you are now telling me that you never hinted that I was a yoruba? Are you sure you are alright?

You said that the yorubas tried to impose their language on you and I asked you how? I am from the middlebelt and I am ready to give 1,001 proofs of how the Hausas have been forcefully trying to colonize the northern minorities. Give us proof of your claims pls.

Akoko edo people adopted yoruba as a 2nd language obviously due to proximity to yorubas, just as some middlebelt tribes like Bariba, Ogori magongo and Kwara Nupes too adopted yoruba as a 2nd language due to proximity to yoruba people.

Talking about how yorubas could not do anything to Benin during the old regional govt due to how large and powerful Benin kingdom was in the past makes no sense.
Kwararafa, Kanem-Bornu and Igala kingdoms were also very large and powerful kingdoms until the British conquered everyone and lumped some of us under Hausa fulani control and yoruba control.

I am not arguing with you about how the British gave yorubas power over the western region. The same British gave Igbos power over the eastern region and power to Hausa fulanis over the northern region and entire Nigeria at large.

prolog2:
Stop talking nonesense. I would like to know which Benin you are talking about, are you talking about Benin City or Benin Kingdom or Benin republic ? Second of all, I recall the yoruba trying everything in the book to impose their language on the midwest. The only reason anybody ever spoke yoruba in the midwest was because of the fact that the yoruba forced their language in everybody's throat !
For your information the Akoko-Edo are Edo, not yoruba and so are the Edo-north people. You yoruba are very confused, you keep thinking that all southerners whom are not igbo must be yoruba. It is very simple, the yoruba favoured yoruba in the western region and tried to annihilate all other cultures and people. Stop trying to rewrite history with your mixture of ignorance and lies.

I am not yoruba. I never said Akoko edo are yoruba people, they only have great yoruba influence in terms of language as they speak yoruba as a 2nd language, perhaps due to closeness to yorubas.

Usen is a Benin town, don't they speak a yoruba dialect as their mother tongue?

Northern minorities are talking of how hausa language was forced on them and you are talking of how you fought off imposition of yoruba language. How exactly did that happen?

Did yorubas form settlements and kingship in your areas like Hausas did to northern minorities? Did yorubas ban the missionaries from evangelizing to your people in their native languages like Hausas did to northern minorities? Did yorubas rename Bendel towns like Hausas did to northern minorities? Did yorubas migrate to dominate any Bendel towns like Igbos did to Rivers people and Hausas did to northern minorities.

Abeg, when northern & eastern minorities are talking of heavy domination in the old regional govts, Bendelites (old western minorities) should not talk.
Hausas & Igbos were far more ruthless in the aspect of dominating minorities compared to yorubas.

Efewestern:
I now understand better, but I still don't know why most Northern minorities defend the Hausa/Fulani almost every time even with all the oppressions and killings.

@Bolded, I beg to differ, the yorubas favoured all yoruboid Group leaving others to their fate, they almost made it look like the region was 100% Yoruba.

As for eastern region, if you know, u know. .

Nice points, I learnt something new today

The only northern minorities that can even think of defending Hausa fulanis are those who were islamized and have heavily mixed with fulanis e. g Nupe & Gbagyi muslims of Niger state.

I know yorubas favoured Itsekiris with the Olu title. Apart from that what else? Did they favour the Olukumis of Delta north or the Akoko-Edo axis? They would have easily annexed that part of Edo north and even the Yoruba speaking parts of Benin that are close to Ondo, but they didn't.

Yyeske:
You are right to an extent but but remember that a creole is different from pidgin.
Pidgin is a language developed by speakers of two or more different languages for simple communication while retaining their original native languages as we have in Nigeria and that is why we still have native speakers of Igbo, Yoruba, Efik, Urhobo, Hausa etc speaking pidgin but they still retain the ability to communicate in their various native languages. This is common among the first and second generation of the pidgin speakers.
A creole develops when the pidgin is now so mixed up and nobody can speak any native language except the pidgin, imagine Nigerians speaking only pidgin at home with their parents at home, place of work, their grandparents and not understanding a word of Yoruba, Igbo, Efik, Hausa, Urhobo etc but we only speak pidgin as our local language. This is what is obtainable in Haiti, Sierra Leone and some other countries.
Spanish, French, Italian you sited were first pidgins of Latin before becoming creoles and finally defined different languages as we know today.

I very well understand you. The simple reason why most Caribbean countries developed creole languages was simply because they lost their own languages during the slave trade.
Have you heard of TOK PISIN? It is a pidgin language which became a creole not too long ago as it displaced native languages, spoken in New Papua Guinea. It has official status over there, even while it was not yet a creole.

With the way Pidgin is going in the South-south especially, it may displace native languages very soon if frantic efforts are not taken as most of the younger generation are like first language pidgin speakers.

Cooly100:
It is easy to spot the difference between Fulani and Hausa people. Fulani are fairer with Oval facial structure, unlike the Hausas who are predominately dark with less oval facial structure.

1st pic is a fulani man
2nd pic is an Hausa man

You are very correct.

However, due to extensive intermixing, there are many Hausas who look like fulanis and fulanis who look like Hausa. ... This is where the Hausa-Fulani joint identity comes from.