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701ecilana:
Exactly my brother. They say it's nothing wrong to be gay, but flys into a rage when something is said against them no matter how slightly.

Why am i not fighting everyone for insulting my God and i for being a Christian in this forum? NPComplete is all out calling me names and for what? because i stand against homosexuality of which he denies not being one, why the rage then?

I will speak the truth looking directly into Satan's eyes. Homosexuals are satanic.

Still quoting me I see. Thought u said u didn't want to engage me? Lol. U guys know a superior argument when u see one. Somehow your pride won't let it go. U think indirect insults win the day. Sadly, it doesn't.

JimaeChinko:
Poor Liar...

The OP never made fornication seem a minor sin.


Must you derail the homosexuality topic with your lies?


Seems you lack comprehension?

Go re-read the OP's post.

Now this is an obsession. I just realised I am the standard by which u measure yourself. Somehow you feel like winning an argument against me will make u fulfilled. Too bad I don't consider u my intellectual equal. U are beneath me. And I will keep reminding u of that. On Nairaland or off of it, it's not ur type I engage with.
When I want to indulge morons I will let u know.

In the meantime take my advice and get a job. Don't be shy to let me know if I can help u. Trust me, I don't take things personally. I will help if I can

newsynews:
I'm glad you know the story of the 2 thieves crucified along with Jesus. One acknowledged his sins while the other was arrogant and didn't see his sin as sin.

This time around, we are not saying you should condemn the individual involved in homosexuality. We are only saying you should condemn the act, which you have failed to do. You not only failed but surprisingly, you are indifferent about other sins too. That means you are not against any sin. That is a huge trait of an homosexual. They are always open to any sinful habit so long their own sin is allowed. Little wonder homosexuals, bestiality, pedophiles, transgenders are all friends.

Do you know that fornicators know that they are sinners and even confess their sins? But homosexuals don't know that they are sinners. No, they don't want to accept it, that's why they want it legalized. Keeping quiet instead of speaking against this sin only helps to embolden them to continue wallowing in it. It's so worse for you that you are trying to silence those who are warning the homosexuals to desist from their act. You claim to be a Christian but you don't know that you have heaped hot coal on your head for preventing sinners from repenting.

Pls just admit that you are gay so that we can stop bothering and wondering why a professed Christian is supporting what the Bible hates just cos he thinks the Bible hates other sins too.

Yeah and also admit u are a fool with comprehension problems so we can end this discussion.

newsynews:
A while ago, you were insulting those that concluded that you are gay due to your strong and passionate support for them. Now, your hypocritical self is concluding that someone's life is sad just cos he chose to speak against the disgusting lifestyle of people who love faeces.

This just shows me u are very daft. How does this correlate with what I said? Dude tell me the truth. U actually didn't do very well in school, did u?

JimaeChinko:
Sorry...

You the dumb slowpoke here cheered on by your fellow dumb monkeys..

The problem is you won't just acknowledge moronic side.

Dude get a job. I am not the cause of your frustration. Get a job. If u have a job u won't take Nairaland like your day job. Send me your CV so I help. This frustration is too much.

newsynews:
Peoole have pointed to you countless times that Homosexuality is a dangerous sin and have even quoted the Bible. Fornication is also a sin but not as dangerous as homosexuality cos fornicators do not have associations that parade their sin in public displays called pride and also demanding that their sin be legalized.

Since we've been speaking against this sin, all you've been doing is to try to bring it down to the level of fornication. Yes, both sinners will end in hell, but homosexuals want to destroy this world, that's what make their sin terrible.

Since we've been talking against homosexuality, YOU HAVENT CONDEMNED THE ACT.

Why?

Yet you want us to believe you are a Christian even when. the Bible advised us to shun evil.

What's my business with condemning the act? Have u seen me condemning adultery or formication or stealing here?
Stop being obtuse. I still stans on the fact that homosexuality is not less than fornication or stealing or adultery. The only reason u want to excuse the rest is because that's the sin u engage in. There's no special hell or hotter hell for homosexuals. Both homosexuals and u hypocrite will burn in the same place.
You can take that to the bank.
U think calling me gay will somehow make me support u. U aren't very bright, are u?

newsynews:
So are you a religious person? Are you a Christian? Is homosexuality a sin? Why have you been making a case for them all day when you know their act goes against the Bible, that's if you are a Christian?

What is with u guys and low intelligence? Does every Christian on Nairaland has to be this dumb? Does anonymity correspond with foolishness?

What was the bone of contention? The point I raised was u trying to make fornication seem less than homosexuality. And I made u see that the only reason u believe so is because of ur homophobia then I told u there will be no difference between the hell they will both find their selves in. Both now u are screaming I am defending them. Trust me if I knew u were this dense, I won't have even engaged u at all.
Don't worry I have marked u anyways. Won't be making the same mistake twice.

One thing I have noticed from this thread is that most Christians are morons. And sadly, morons don't make for good Christians. This people will leave an intellectual argument once they see they can't beat u on plain logic and start arguing my trying to impugn your person. They will either call u gay or a Muslim or whatever they are arguing against just because they think it will scare u into backing down. Once I see such display of folly, I know my point has been made.

701ecilana:
See? Why are you so angry all of a sudden? You don't hate God but hate my God. You accuse of me of releasing bile, but i never insulted you, but read what you just typed.

Lol@being able to take pressure. Who is breaking already now? Is there pressure here? But you have cracked under already. Go ahead cuss, you have nothing else to offer, i understand.

I never called you any name, but you who are the clean guy far away from the gutters is the one slinging shuts from the same gutter. Go ahead.

For you to know i argue day and night in NL shows you sleep here too, don't you think. At least i stand against the evil you want accepted.

Nonsence.

Let me indulge u for a second. Because I know this is the only thing that gives meaning to your life. When u sleep on the bed alone wondering why ur prayers are not being answered, this is the only thing that doesn't make u slit ur wrists.

Yeah. Typical of analice to start something then feign innocence. This is not the first time u are doing this. I have seen u insult a person's parent and call one of them a rapist then feign ignorance. Sorry we know ur tricks. U called me a homosexual. That's what u started with. Now u are acting all innocent. U think I am one of those daft people u spend ur day with that wouldn't know when he is being insulted?

Now u have my attention. I will indulge u if u have a meaningful argument and u are ready for a discussion. Not if u think u can throw veiled insults and make urself feel good.

701ecilana:
Just saying. You can never find me being rational because our views are opposed to each other's.

I love God and stands against what he hates, you hate God and stands for what He hates. See the difference?

BTW, let it slide.

Nope I don't hate God. I hate your god. Your petty god that relies on people like u to defend him. People that can't even face pressure without using bile and hateful words u should only find in the mouth of gutter children. And u claim u work for a god. Definitely not the God I believe in.
I know arguing day and night on Nairaland and claiming u are on God's side while ur life points to the contrary is a way for u to escape the realities of ur existence and wish away your inadequacies. Just don't get angry with me for not taking u seriously.

JimaeChinko:
Well you the retarded bastard. Deal with your lesbianism. Not my problem.

This vermin is still here fighting people that are better than him. Lol. Your life must be so sad if for u to give meaning to ur life u have to sit down on a thread and look for people to insult when other have moved on to do better things with their day. I hope u finally get a job.

701ecilana:
Am suspecting that most guys here hiding under atheism are actually homosexuals.

I wish I was an atheist or gay. But I am neither. Why am I even replying u. It isn't like you are known for being rational

JimaeChinko:
You only have to read about the wild lifestyle of Oscar Wilde and see how depraved that dude was.


Come outer the closet and quit hiding like Oscar as you so passionate with homosexuality defense.

Anybody who has following this thread can easily tell from your write-up that you are the one with the low I.Q and not the other guy you accusing.

Your low I.Q based logic and arguments goes against commonsense.

This is your best comeback. Lol. U really are a slowpoke. I don't get emotional when I make arguments so this ur emotive insinuation that I am gay makes me laugh. Once idiots can't debate people that surpass them they resort to ad hominem. Which is why I told u u are a buffoon in the beginning.

Like I said, the day I am engaging morons in a discussion I will let u know. Now crawl back into your hole and go play with people with your level of intelligence.

JimaeChinko:
I pray you get delivered from this demonic influence that you try to masquerade as knowledge. Your knowledge is pure foolishness. You make no reasonable point except trying to justify the inherent sinful nature in you. Your rationless arguments holds no water. Repent and get the right cleansing for your depraved mind that Jesus alone offers.

You are an idiot. A pure one. At least u admit what I am arguing is masquerading as knowledge. And what's yours masquerading as? Pure idiocy. Idiots should stop quoting me if they can't debunk my arguments. The day I start engaging fools in a discussion I will let u know.

alBHAGDADI:
Why are you bent on killing this thread by bringing in other sins? This thread is about homosexuality, not fornication. If you want to talk about fornication, start a thread on that.

Imagine you start a thread on fornication, then someone comes around saying we should not talk about fornication cos we also have murderers and liars. I mean, it's like saying we shouldn't even talk about any sin at all. This is a systematic legalization. of sin, and that is what homosexuality aims to achieve- a world were everyone's sin is accepted as normal.

I repeat, go and start your thread on fornication elsewhere. Today, is for homosexuals. Tomorrow might be for rapists etc

Are u this daft? Or u have a short memory? The OP added fornication in his argument. That was his first point and it was what I debunked. I don't argue with daft people. This is my last reply to u. Please refrain from quoting me.

alBHAGDADI:
If you had read further, you would have seen where He said they did detestable things, but you just stopped at verse 49 thereby making it seem as if the few sins mentioned in verse 49 were all the people of Sodom and Gomorrah engaged in.




Mind you, even the homosexuals call themselves sodomites.




It can only be nonsense to someone who sees nothing wrong in people dipping their private organ inside a hole meant for faeces.

You see the problem you have? Inability to comprehend. I have just told you that fornication isn't different from being gay and both will attract hell. But now you are making it sound like I support being gay. How can I have a reasonable discussion with someone so obtuse and unreasonable. Secondly, why are you telling me about Sodomites what has that got to do with the discussion. I have shown you how the name links to the source so what's your point.

The onus is on you to prove when gays were attacked in the past. They were not attacked and were even left alone until they started demanding for governments to legalize their way of life. It's just like murderers and thieves demanding for their way of life to be legalized. Guess what? Homosexuals are the most liberal people on earth. They accept and support anything as long as that thing hides under the umbrella of rights, support for gays or anti-christian.

This is why I don't argue with Ignorant people. Go and research Oscar Wilde and Alan Turing. Come back and tell me the time they exist and why they were hiding the fact they were gay. You think people started being gay yesterday? If you don't know the history and the laws against homosexuality in Europe why are u even arguing here. U better go back to what u are good at. This is beyond u.

We all thought it was just homosexuals until transgenders and pedophiles showed up.




Your tone says a lot about you. Even the real homosexuals haven't been able to show passion for the course on the thread like you. You're probably their leader.

See what I am saying? You are an idiot. And idiots like u do not know when laying down logic is different from being emotionally invested in it. It comes with having a low IQ though. U can't separate ur belief and faith from logic. I am above such emotional investment. Sorry.

The civil rights activism was pushing for the rights of blacks cos blacks were slaves in America. They didn't go to other countries to demand the same.

But homosexuals were not slaves nor did anyone bother about them. People became aware of them when they started shoving their disgusting act in our faces and demanding that their way of life should be accepted as normal. They deceived people like you to believe they were victimized when they were never victimized. Rather, they were just angry that people found the lifestyle disgusting.

Will you support it if thieves, gangsters, murderers, rapists etc demand for their right to live the way they are? I believe you will see nothing wrong with it as an homosexual who won't mind the world turning upside down. as long as his disgusting desire is allowed.

U better go and read the history of the civil rights movement well. And the slave thread and history of homosexuals too.

God showed us clearly in His book - the Bible. That's how I know.


You actually couldn't point out any wrong in my post. That's why you sounded defeated.

Yeah God showed u in his book that Lot was the only righteous person because other righteous people were supporting homosexuals, right? What have u been smoking? Stop making stupid comments u can't back up.

All u have done is call me a homosexual. U haven't actually made an intelligent argument here sorry. I am sure tomorrow when u see me defending Muslims, u will also call me a Muslim. It comes with the low IQ so I will understand if u do.

Funkybabee:
You too know in your heart,that what you wrote down here is meaningless!!!!


I pray may God open your eyes from this bondage

Yeah. I pray He opens your eyes to see your hypocrisy too. And probably open your head to think better. All these guys that will go and have a quickie later tonight and be coming here to form. What's it with Nairaland and hypocrites?

alBHAGDADI:
But the one that was hammered on in the Bible is the sin of homosexuality. The Bible didn't point out the other sins for one reason which is cos they were sins people committed before Sodom. But God had to destroy Sodom cos of homosexuality. That's why Sodom was recorded in the book of Genesis for homosexual sin as seen by the Bible passage above where even angels almost got raped by the YOUNG and OLD Men of the city.

Apparently u haven't read the book of Ezekiel. God Himself was speaking there and we all know what he thought was most important to Him then. He didn't even mention homosexuality when he was listing off the sins.

Today, the word sodomy or sodomite stands for homosexual :.

Thanks, Captain Obvious. What's your superpower again? Being able to disseminate obvious information? We know that because the Judeo-Christian tradition of Europe made them include the word. So what's ur point again?

So you see, you are missing the point or intentionally trying to destroy this thread by likening homosexual sin to other sins. Mind you, this thread is about homosexuals not fornication. Countless threads on fornication have been on nairaland even on front page. I don't think fornicators visited the thread to drag in homosexuals so as justify their own sin.

You can go open an anti-fornication thread somewhere else.

Nonsense appeal to emotion. Ignored. I didn't know you are reading this on a braille. So u didn't notice the OP trying to make fornication seem like less of a sin. Didn't know one of the 3 blind mice is now on Nairaland.

Laws against homosexuals were not implemented until Gays started demanding for their way of life to be made Law and generally accepted. That was what led to the laws against them cos a sane society see their lifestyle as barbaric, even animals know better than them.

Evidence. Where's your evidence. You need to point me to a time when there was no retribution against gay people. Show me evidence. This isn't bible school were we take things by faith. I am arguing logic here.

They claim to just wanted to be in their bedrooms, but now they want to be in public.

Currently there are cartoons with gay characters. Hollywood movies now have gay characters and gay scenes. Magazines are now featuring gays. They are now venturing into school curriculum. That's just a few. Google is your friend, but I doubt you will research cos you are in bed with homosexuals.

Another nonsense that should be ignored. You write a lot of nonsense when two or 3 words should suffice to explain the nonsense you are trying to say. Yeah I am in bed with homosexuals. You know this because we were on the bed together, right?

They don't want to make the world gay, yet Obama who ensured the legalization of LGBT in American became furious at Goodluck Jonathan for allowing an anti-gay law to hold in Nigeria. What about how they have been trying to implement that law in Zimbabwe. If not for Mugabe, that country would have been a sewage by now. What message did you think Obama took to Kenya? Pls research.

Now I am beginning to lose my patience. What sort of idiotic argument is this? I hate engaging people who don't think before they post. So you are saying because Obama was pushing for the legalisation of LGBT in some countries so they want to turn the whole world gay. That's very smart. That's like saying because the civil rights activists in the 1960s were pushing for the emancipation of black people, they wanted to turn the whole world black. Or like saying because Lincoln was trying to end slavery in the 1860s he wanted to make the world Africans. U are very smart.

Yes, God had already decided to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah and the actions of the homosexual made it worse by trying to rape the angels of God. Idiots

You speak of Abraham but you don't know how he bargained with God but couldn't win. He started from 50 righteous men, begging God to spare Sodom if there could be 50 righteous men in the city. &e even brought down the number to 10 but there couldn't be found righteous me. up to that number. So you see, there was no righteous man except Lot. Why wasn't there more than one righteous man? That's because those that were not gay, people like yourself, saw nothing wrong with the activities of homosexuals. And one thing about allowing one sin to fester out of control is that it allows the growth of other sins. The people saw nothing wrong about homosexuality, which means they approved it. Their approval of it enabled them to become sinful too. Once you see nothing wrong with evil or fail to speak against it, then you will one day do evil. His saved Lot cos he was always vexed by the actions of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. Those that were destroyed saw nothing wrong with their sin. That's the same mindset you want people of today to have. That mindset destroyed the gays and non-gays of Sodom. You want God to destroy us. Shame

Another needless nonsense. I didn't know you are God Himself that you know it was because the other righteous people were supporting homosexuals that's why He found only Lot. I am also sure you know what God was doing before creation. lol. Like the rest of your post, this is just conjecture and has no logical basis whatsoever.

As far as I can see, I think this thread is to make Christians take a stand against homosexuality according to what the Bible states. The Bible doesn't advise to be indifferent about homosexuals or even see nothing wrong with it. The Bible command we shun such and not accept them into our midst.

When I saw you quote and the long wall of text you wrote, I was thinking I will be reading a compelling argument. Frankly I am disappointed. I just wastes my time reading and replying you.

bjcuntis:
I would pray for u fam. Its all i can say

Says the guy with the name bj-cunt-is. Your useless prayer will be more effective on you, clown. Foolish hypocrites everywhere.

kevoh:
Booked for frontpage purpose!

Just want to let u and Hopefullandlord know ungotnur wish.

kevoh:
Booked for frontpage purpose!

Just want to let u and Hopefullandlord know u got your wish.

newsynews:
Sorry dude, but you misunderstood the point of this thread. This thread doesn't excuse other sins. What it does is to point to homosexuality as a sin cos gays don't see it as one, especially one that cries to God for vengeance. Fornicators know that they are sinners, so they don't go about begging people to accept them that way. But gays want their sin to be legalized. This is why God is always angry at them same way He hates murderers cos both sin cry to Him for vengeance. The worst part is that they want to make the whole world gay.


And the Lord said: The cry of Sodom and Gomorrha is multiplied, and their sin is become exceedingly grievous. I will go down and see whether they have done according to the cry that is come to me: or whether it be not so, that I may know. - Gen. 18:20-21


You See, even after God sent 2 angels to confirm the news He got of Sodom and Gomorrah, the men of that city, both young and old still wanted to rape the angels. That's how horrible it was that the angels had to destroy the city immediately.



The point of this thread is to keep Christians away from showing support to the sun of homosexuality or even feeling indifferent about it.

You are still missing the point. The sin God wanted the angels to go investigate was not just being gay alone. It was all the sins that were crying out, get it?

Put your homophobia in check for a second and think.

Fornicators know they are sinners so they go about begging people to accept them that way, u say, but gay people want their sin to be legalised. Maybe that's because gay people have laws against them. How many laws do u see against fornication? And how many people have been thrown in jail for lasciviousness? Maybe if we weren't creating laws to harm and imprison gay people they wouldn't be asking for their act to be legalised. Think dude, think!!!

Where did u get your proof that they want to make the whole world gay? Where? You can't just come here and make stupid claims. Back it up with proof. And don't u go be bringing up conspiracy theories and websites because u will only be setting yourself up to get insulted.

And no, u don't even know your bible, God already planned to destroy the city before the angels even got there. That was the whole point of the banter between Abraham and God to see whether the city could be saved if there was enough righteous people. Your bias is even making you to misunderstand the bible. Read your bible well. The sole mission of the angels was to evacuate Lot and his family. Capisce?

The whole point of this thread is pointless. Christians have never agreed on one exact set of things. Some will support or be indifferent towards homosexuals and others won't just like some are indifferent towards wearing trousers and earnings and others aren't. Just like some are indifferent towards Mary and others aren't. Just like some are...........you see where this is going right?

EDIT:
I have seen you have modified your last comment which this post quoted and you have gone to bring some comments in the next 2 pages just to improve your argument here. Still not making sense though. Here's my reply to some of that nonsense:

They don't want to make the world gay, yet Obama who ensured the legalization of LGBT in American became furious at Goodluck Jonathan for allowing an anti-gay law to hold in Nigeria. What about how they have been trying to implement that law in Zimbabwe. If not for Mugabe, that country would have been a sewage by now. What message did you think Obama took to Kenya? Pls research.

Now I am beginning to lose my patience. What sort of idiotic argument is this? I hate engaging people who don't think before they post. So you are saying because Obama was pushing for the legalisation of LGBT in some countries so they want to turn the whole world gay. That's very smart. That's like saying because the civil rights activists in the 1960s were pushing for the emancipation of black people, they wanted to turn the whole world black. Or like saying because Lincoln was trying to end slavery in the 1860s he wanted to make the world Africans. U are very smart.

Anyone interested in a rational debunking of the irrational can check here https://www.nairaland.com/3985144/how-christian-should-view-homosexuality/3#59431358

Lol. Funny Christians excusing their own sins and picking out other people's sins. Hypocrites. There will be more Christians in hell than gay people.

Ezekiel 16:49-50 already explains what God was angry about. It was the totality of all the sins in Sodom and Gomorrah and not one particular sin. So when u try to separate fornication from homosexuality (perhaps because the former is ur own personal sin) I just laugh.

So point 1 is null and void. U will burn in hell with gay people because all sins ask for vengeance from God. You don't get to cherry pick. Sorry. I hope the devil makes the gay people in hell butthump all the hypocritical Christians that will wind up in hell too. Amen.

Hmm

NgcoboP:
Truth hurts. Empirical data has been applied. Now shove your imaginations and wishes up where the sun shines not! Atheists = Suicidal people

You are a joke. I am not even an atheist but I can tell when someone is incapable of a meaningful discussion. The lady you quoted actually replied to your thread as an intellectual and gave an analytical reply as to the hidden variables that you probably didn't consider and this was the best thing you could give Dollyak for her effort. This comment only shows you have the IQ of a tsetse fly and precludes any meaningful discussion from happening on this thread.

luvmijeje:
Says who? We all have the Bible as our central theme. We all believe in Christ. So repeat your point again.

What's today? Thoughtlessness Pride day? I just accused u of being thoughtless and naturally I expected u to exude more caution and thought in your reply to me instead this is what I get: a confirmation that my initial conclusion about u was right.

You do realise atheists also have a collective disdain for religion as their central theme, right? And they all do not believe in any deity whatsoever. So remind me what point you were trying to make by that stupid reply.

Let your next reply to me be more measured and show you have start applying thought to your comments. Here's a method that should help u; don't post the first thing that comes to your mind. Think first. Then just before you post it, think again. Cheers

luvmijeje:
You are still confused. Do all atheists subscribe to this your stand or it's just you?

My personal advice to you which you can't buy with money, stop doing follow follow. Stop your attache mentality and go back to God.

There u go shooting yourself in the foot. Something very characteristic of thoughtless people. Even you Christians don't have an exact set of stands you all subscribe to. That's why there are so many denominations that believe in so many different things. By your logic you Christians are equally confused.
Take your own advice.

The apostle is a fool. Even my grandma knows that North Korea have been threatening to unleash a nuclear weapon these past months. So if your dumb apostle is just predicting what everyone already knows then he is better off selling used cloths in Oshodi. Tell him to make himself more useful and predict want we do not already know.

Stupid fàggots rising everyday to ascribe supernatural powers to themselves.

I agree with the OP. As someone who considered himself almost a Christian deist, I didn't always want to express myself openly until I found Nairaland. I used to think my opinions were on the extreme fringe of Nigerian society until I came here and found even more crazy people. Now I realise I am in the middle smack dab between extreme religious nuts and atheists.

Since I believe in a somewhat laissez-faire God, I believe in a God of variety based on the evidence I can see around me, I don't think any side is wrong per se. The people I take exception to are those who will seek to take a moral high ground or assert to the infallibility of their own ideals as if they have been to the afterlife and have irrefutable evidence for their claims. Usually these people are Christians and Muslims and I enjoy spending my time oppugning their claims.

The atheist argument serves the God I believe in. The God that isn't so insecure He cares what puny humans think of Him or concern Himself with foreskins. God doesn't care what religion we follow. If he did he would have wired the true religion and worship into our brains and save us these 1001+ denominations.

Modern Christians and intellectual dishonesty.

If the trinity doctrine was a Muslim thing and Muslims were claiming Mohammed and God are one but the Quran has a passages that reads "the Father is greater than I", quoting Mohammed, we all know Christians will gleefully use that passage to refute the oneness of Mohammed and God. Same goes with other passages that clearly points out the superiority of God to Jesus.

But modern Christians, being as dishonest as they can be, will twist the interpretation of passages when it suits them and interpret the passage literally when it suits them.

You guys have to agree. We either read the bible literally or we give own interpretation to every passage. U don't get to cherry pick.

Funny how these hacks always have one thing or another to sell after being deported from heaven

I also noticed the op is trying to drive traffic to his site too. Merchandised Christianity.