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Every dumb nonentity who can't even tell how they will get their next meal will just come on nairaland religion section and start ascribing god-like powers to themselves and claiming their delusions and hallucinations come from God and that they have somehow been bestowed powers to read the future and see into the spiritual realm.

Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

If the above bible passage is to be believed, the rapture will not take place until every living human have heard it. At least that's what many Christians believe and some even base the urgency of evangelism on this passage. They think spreading the gospel will hasten the coming of Jesus.

Assumption 1: Of all the Christians in the world right now or at any time in history, less than 10% of them are really holy enough to meet the criteria for making heaven which means that if hell is real, over 95% of people on earth now will burn in hell. Really burn.

Assumption 2: The world is only going to get worse. According to the bible we should see more evil in the world and even less real Christians in it since we are in the last days. By this, there will be less real Christians by the day and even many Nairaland Christians will increasingly join the number of people going to hell.

Now here is my argument:
Supposing the gospel has reached all parts of the world save for one community of 100 people in a remote village in a country ruled by a dictator like Kim Jong-Un who isolates his subjects from the world. And it will take another 500 years to penetrate into that place. Will God be waiting for 500 years to allow Jesus come back while many people, billions of them, in all other parts of the world die and go to hell, just because God wants to reach 100 people.
Keep in mind that the 100 people may not hear the gospel till they die and go to hell too but they will give birth to children who will also make God wait even more years for the gospel to reach them and the wait continues. But all the while, people are being born in other parts of the world with less and less of them bound for heaven because, by no fault of theirs, they were born in an ever increasing world that is descending into evil the more and made it less likely for them to do good.
So God just keeps creating billions of people he knows are hell-bound? That's at least 30 billion souls getting roasted because God was waiting for 100 souls whose majority will still not follow the laws of Christianity after they hear it.

Tell me u don't think this idea is silly.
Wouldn't God see the big defect in that idea since he truly loves us and doesn't want us to burn in hell?

adepeter26:
You see how you just kill yourself using 100% logic.
Here is analysis of the colored texts.

You just concluded and proved yourself that "NEGATION CAN NEVER BE PROVED".

You made the claim in the 1st instance that Nigeria is in Europe.
Therefore, it's your task to locate Nigeria Map in Europe and proof it

That guy isn't very bright. I think the best line he ever came up with is "u have less to say and much to argue" and he thinks he just stumbled on some wise saying or something. I don't even know why u atheists indulge him

felixomor:
Lol....

So u r thinking about me like this?
.......

Anyways, Happy sunday .....

Same to u bro

CatfishBilly:
I'm a fan of Wilgrea7, ever since I debated with him sometime ago. I like his arguments. He's one theist I respect on this platform.

He is the opposite of Felixomor. That one no just dey try at all

otemdomino:
In essence, what you need is a bit of LIES.
Religion=lies

Of course we do need bits of lie. The world couldn't possibly function without the infinite capacity of humans to tell lies. A good fib makes the world go round.

akintom:
The lifestyle and the societal characteristics of the atheists, negate the thinking that the absence of religion, will plunge the society in disorderliness and chaos.

Just like politics, there are different system of governance, through which politicians bear leadership.

Secularism is a type of societal moderation, and its opposition to overwhelming control of society via religious beliefs, has proven a better alternative.

I partially disagree. Most atheists, deists and irreligious people are usually very thoughtful people. They are less likely to succumb to vices that could harm their neighbour. The general population isn't like that. They are mostly superstitious and among them are some subhumans whose sinister tendencies are kept in check by the threat of eternal damnation.

I agree with EVarn, we do need a bit of religion.

Like play like play, this Otemdomino guy would have invented a religion o with complete scriptures to back it up even. And in a thousand years time, some gullible people will start claiming all that is written there in is truth and infallible.

Nutase:
go and read your bible again.

Very escapist. Why don't u lay down ur argument logically? He has obviously read his bible and has laid down his arguments by quoting the scriptures. For all ur condescension and claim of superior alternative knowledge, u haven't said anything sensible on this thread.
All u have done is claim his submissions are heresy and requires further biblical research. Why don't u point him in the right direction by quoting fact-based counter arguments? Could that be because u are only steeped in dogma and have no sensible reasons for holding the beliefs that u do?

The concept of hell is bullshit. I repeat, bull-freaking-shit.
If u read ur bible well, u will realise that throughout most of the old testament, the Jews had no concept of hell. They hardly believed in the resurrection if at all. And that is telling because something as important as hell would have been what Moses will have warned about right from the beginning.
It was sometime between the old and new testament that the concept of hell was introduced into Jewish canon; they must have picked up some of that nonsense from Zoroastrianism and similar religions that the Persians and Babylonians, who invaded and pillaged their lands and took them captives, practiced. That's why the Sadducees didn't believe in the resurrection because they stuck with the old Jewish canon.
So God must have created hell as an afterthought that He came up with within that time period or it skipped His mind that He forgot to mention it to Moses throughout all those times the Israelites were being naughty in the wilderness.
Since there is no evidence for either of the two possibilities we can both agree that this is the most plausible explanation: hell is bullshit. It's just a tool to scare proselytes and devotees into observing the tenets of the religion or risk fiery damnation. And the superstitious goat herders that existed at those times easily accepted it.

Una still dey on top this matter? After wetin una eye see last year? I bow for una. Some people's faith will not just move mountains. It will move the earth out of its orbit.

Religious Nigerians are basically idiots. Evidence show that people are getting more depressed by the day and committing suicide as a result. Instead of these religious freaks to seek ways to address the source of this depression and provide advice about how to get help, they start quoting empty bible passages. As if those people who committed suicide hadn't ever read the scriptures before taking their own lives.
If the bible telling people not to lie or commit fornication didn't stop them committing it; hell it didnt even stop some pastors from tapping humongous asses, why the heck do u think quoting scriptures here will be of any use to the really depressed? Clowns.

flyover30:
Russia as a country is always sceptical of countries around dem including d west.I am a member of Jehovah witnesses,and no matter wat any world ruler may do,d hypocrisy of world government will always be exposed,including d Babylon d great sitting on many waters.all should submit to d admonition recorded in Daniel 2 :44.Hitler Of Germany tried to silence d religion, but he died mysteriously just 12 yrs later.

He didn't die mysteriously u religious liar. He freaking shot himself in the face. That was because people actively resisted him and they were already close to apprehending him. If they had been waiting for him to die mysteriously, JWs will probably have been exterminated. So guys should thank the active people who actually do things to make the world a better place and not wait on the patron deity of their religion to sort things out for them while distributing journals everywhere.

Hassy4:
Please who knows were the training would hold? Do they pay even if it's a token for transport?

I think it's supposed to be something u can do from home as long as u have an internet connection

The person that came up with this list will probably still go ahead and commit adultery before the end of the week. Abegi

Sealeddeal they have recaptured ur brother o.

I don't know why India won't enact a law to start killing off these drug peddlers. Once caught, they should be killed. Instead of releasing them to become a menace to society. Those animals are responsible for the drugs kidnappers and rapists use to sedate their victims. Especially those eastern European sex trafficking rings.
Buhari over to u. We need a new law for these vermins. Any of those people caught back home should be guillotined immediately.

frubben:
Hehehehehehhe. They old young lady was taking register. She would be like

Skibo - present
Fash -present


Hehehehehehehhehehe

LMAO.
Thank you for this post. This is the first hard laughter I will be having this year. U too much

drehdinho:
Bro, I am not spoiling anybody's business here. We need to have the genuine and sincere aim for selling products. I realize most Nigerians product marketers have no value in what they market anyway, got to realize this having bought several of their products. This affiliate marketing he is advertising here, I know how I paid several times for materials which ended with that same garbage reproduced and repackaged by rewording the content, perhaps this is done by the same set of people under different pseudonyms.

In the end, got on the right track using videos I watched on different free online video platforms (there are many of them online, just type free online video platform to your Google tab), and help of sincere online mentors who will hide nothing from you. But these guys too won't spoon feed you anyway. It goes without saying that most Nigerian youths are struggling financially, why compound their problems when you know this. Is not a bad idea to sell products; please no one should get me wrong here, but selling what you know doesn't work is a bad idea, sell what has value, sell what you yourself are using.

If indeed the system he has in that ebook is working, that is, he is cashing out in four figures every month with it, he won't be selling it. I know Nigerian marketers for this. They only sell overbeaten and old methods while they keep the working systems to themselves thereby impoverishing the strugglers.

Hi. How can I contact u so we can talk?

[quote author=KingOfThePay post=52284875][/quote]Hi. U seem to know a lot about this affiliate marketing stuff. Can we talk? How can I reach u?

TonySpike:
Are you sure we watched the same series? Unlike you, I was hooked after episode 1. I was more interested in the cybernetic and robotics aspect, which is more related to my profession. Anyway, you should give it another shot by watching

I am surprised someone thought that comment was worth replying. I just saw the comment and laughed it off for the joke it was. Look at the ludicrous excuses the commenter stated for why the show is considered a hit by people.
When someone starts invoking conspiracy theories like illuminati to explain stuff, I don't take that person seriously.

I am not looking forward to season 2 one bit. Whenever they like they should start it. But I do hope they improve the quality of the ending though. This ending for season one was sort of anticlimactic for me. A robot uprising that wasn't truly a robot uprising. It was still more or less Ford controlling the damn bots. Even though they tried to hint that Dolores was conscious all along and the Bicameral mind theory finally took hold, all her actions afterwards seemed plotted by Arnold and perfected by Ford.
And Maeve, yes Maeve, they couldn't just let her be. She had to have also be a Ford puppet too. Argh.... Story was cool until the last episode. Writing; perfect. Cinematography; topnotch. But ending.....the ending....leaves much to be desired.
Sorry if my rant included spoilers.

deeMarc:
Anyone seen the final episode?

For me, it was underwhelming.

omowumeee:
This is nice... is Maeve acting according to Ford's new Narative? If not, how doesnt he know what she's upto

Ford is literally a god in that park. There's a little chance he doesn't know Maeve is up to something. Let's see where Maeve's story arc leads.

sleemoon:
Wait! Am I getting it wrong or did Dolores jst called Bernard (Arnold) ?

Like I said and it has been confirmed in d latest episode. Bernard is a host made in the likeness of Arnold.

landinfo:
From what I watched on ep4, Wyatt was a program, Hopkins introduced to Terry....he wasn't in existence per se until Hopkins introduced "It" to Terry~~~who @ first didn't know who Wyatt is until Hopkins touched his tablet & then it then looked as if Terry recalled a "certain" Wyatt

Ford is playing a long game. We will have to wait to find out what Wyatt is meant to help achieve. I still believe it's part of his long running battle with Arnold.

lepasharon:
Exactly, just like how schizophrenics think they might be Jesus..

Reminds me of all those stories I hear about old women who claim to have transformed from their avian form into human form or vice versa. Or any other animal form mentally disturbed Nigerians lay claim to. All of them are schizos suffering from various form of clinical lycanthropy.

Damogul, I guess it's now clear that the story about someone dying due to ulcer isn't true.
But I don't think it's fair asking him to mention the presidents of CACCF for those two years especially since he said he attended ASF instead. I don't think there's anyone who keeps records of presidents of fellowships that aren't his own.

I suspect that after the events of today, Harmirror may need to rebrand and choose another moniker for a while. Just like Joagbaje did.

damogul:
FOR THE SAKE OF FAIRNESS. IN THE EMAIL HARDMIRROR SAID THAT HE COULD ASK AROUND FOR THE NAME OF THE DEAD BROTHER SO I WILL BE FAIR.

HE HAS TILL 6PM TO DIVULGE THAT NAME HE SO CONVENIENTLY FORGOT AND THEN PROVE WRONG THE OTHER ACTIVE CACCF MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAID NOBODY DIED IN 2009 AND 2010.

FAILURE TO DO THIS, NEW THREAD WITH ALL EXPOSES WILL BE UP BY 6.15 WITH A LINK TO THIS ONE AND I PRAY THE NL MODS WOULD BE EQUALLY FAIR ENOUGH TO PUSH IT TO THE FRONT PAGE.

HARDMIRROR OVER TO YOU!

Agreed

Howmon:
The names He mentioned already are not name of people I know. The CACCF caught my attention has it was my fellowship in school.

Common dude. I am beginning to suspect u are not being truthful urself. U want to claim u don't know Pastor Ogundare? Or Olusola Areogun? Or the loves domain peeps? Common. U have to know one of those names he mentioned or ur story should be followed with caution. These are people JCCF or any other fellowship invite almost every time every year.

iRyan:
Everyone here should calm down and take a chill pill. Hardmirror may have told a lie, but that shouldn't be a reason to rescind his story as every human is guilty of the same when they tell a story.
Everyone has sometime squeezed in a lie or two into their stories to make it fascinating and mesmerizing

Um nope. I disagree with this. If there's even a little possibility he may have told that lie, then every bit of his story should be stripped down so we can separate fact from fiction. It's true that humans are infused with an innate need to embellish stories but if that raises questions about the authenticity of the whole story, we owe it to ourselves and everyone reading this to acknowledge the fragment that it true and debunk the false ones. It's a moral obligation.