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vedaxcool:
I used to assume you support me silently buhahha I personally don't care of your silent support which changes nothing. Please can you swear I get paid for your posting and if true God should never grant me any thing in this life I need and if false You will never earn for yout entire life N2000 and all forms of evils will befall you? It is a shame you cannot think rationally and see the point being made! Education is more important than silly music video, No? Preserving human life through treatment abroad due to the absence of good facilities here is more important than music video, No? You see you people cannot reason well that is why you we put in the same bracket education, health and music video is just plain stupid!

What u are saying here makes sense. But why can't they do the same for education and health care? If they are so concerned about flight of foreign exchange their first plan should be improving health care first. We should see a visible plan towards it. Not just attacking an industry they didn't help build. They should have asked for what makes the entertainers go abroad and lay out plans to replicate it here instead saying ban. The one they have direct control over, what have they done about it? What about their vacation abroad? They should start banning themselves from spending our money to go on vacation abroad. This is just a vicious circle. It is hypocritical for them to just single out entertainers and not themselves. That's my point.

vedaxcool:
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Madness in low places howelse can we describe fools who equate education, health with shooting a dumb music video abroad? Which is clearly a waste of foreign exchange!

God punish all those wishing death on the president. Amen

I used to side with u silently when I read ur posts. But it's now clear u are getting paid for this. U are now even supporting the irrational. No sane neutral person will write what u just wrote.
How is shooting music abroad a waste of foreign exchange and schooling abroad or getting medical attention abroad not so? How will a government be planning to put a stop to such practices and not be planning to stop the ones they indulge in? Only a paid butt licker will not see the hypocrisy.
Sometimes u have to just shut up and not take sides.

LOL. Religious idiots on nairaland. All religion no God. No morality. No piety. No intelligence.

Someone put a well chemically preserved body into an airtight casket and shows it off and idiots flock to it like vermin. Put that body in an open casket and watch it decay in months. Clowns

Also how are we to know if that's the actual body or just some secret Catholic shenanigans to keep people still believing in them. Someone could have made a lifesized replica of the saint and parade it as the body of the man himself and there's no way to find out. Because airtight casket.

Shoe?! The things I see on Nairaland.

God help me.

CoolUsername:
This sentence makes no sense whatsoever.

Don't mind the guy. He just pulled the drivel out of his backside and hoped we won't notice. I challenge him to bring any proof of scientific consensus on God being the uncaused cause or whatever nonsense he wrote there.
People just make senseless claims just to give weight to their argument.

felixomor:
Wow
Oh boy, see gymnastics o.

Oh so you want to equate "natural selection" or Link it to that question about "defence mechanisms"?
Which one,

Please finish.......

See the only reason I am replying u is because of other people who will read this post later and will be educated by it. Not because I have the time for ur antics.

Natural selection is the means by which organisms which are better suited to their environment can proliferate. Fact.

Evolution depends on natural selection as traits that hamper adaptation to the environment and thriving in that environment are gradually culled out by nature through predators or diseases to the extent that the weak trait may become nonexistent over time. Hence the new generation of organisms will be totally different from their predecessors physiological if they are to survive. Fact.

Defense mechanisms are traits and organisms with such traits will be better suited to their environment than organisms without it. Fact.

In an antibiotic riddled world that presents a hostile environment to some bacteria, only those whose defence mechanism help them survive the onslaught will be able to produce offsprings which also display a probably stronger form of such defence mechanisms.
And after so long, there will be a generation of bacteria which have evolved to become totally immune to antibiotics dues to said fact.

How hard is this to understand for Pete's sake? And how is this different from the post u misquoted?

This is my last reply to u

Welcome back Felixomor the lord of quoting out of context and nonsensical arguments. I was beginning to think u have finally changed. But with the way u started with me, there might be hope for u.
Here's the quote that u totally misunderstood because u are u. Every other person would have followed my line of thought:

Felixomor, I didn't know u can lay down lucid arguments like this but let me help u further in that line. How is a defense mechanism different from evolution? U have forgotten that natural selection is also a tool for evolution.

That's the complete post. I brought up natural selection and I proceeded to clarify how natural selection ties in with evolution and how defence mechanisms comes in in that context with two paragraphs about defence mechanisms and evolution over generations. Everybody else here got my argument except u.
Apparently, such complicated relationships between sentences was too much for u to grasp. My bad, forgive me. Next time I will break it down into bite size chunks for u so u don't misunderstand. I didn't know I had to teach u how to read and comprehend every time I write.

felixomor:
Fristly, defence mechanism is different from evolution. Evolution is not the study of defence mechanisms or adaptation.

Sigh. I don't have time for this back and forth. Nobody said evolution is the study of defense mechanisms and adaptation so this was needless. U are beginning to sound like the old Felixomor.

I will kindly advise you study Charles Darwin and the purpose of evolution right from the start.
Its different from the concept of defence mechanism and adaptation.
Very different. You cant say a chameleon has evolved simply because it changes colour to catch its prey.
Irritablity is one of the features of all living things.

*facepalm* I fail to see where I alluded to chameleon changing its colours as an evidence for evolution or used any analogy remotely close to it. I specifically stressed the word "generations" many times because of a straw man like this. U have started again. U are beginning to show that trait of dishonest arguments and false equivalence that makes u come off as unable to understand other people's argument.

So also If you get transfused with malaria resistant blood from a sickle patient, it doesn't mean you have evolved because of malaria.
So also the bacteria who acquire resistance by conjugation with other bacteria, they are only doing what they have been doing even before antibiotics came. Are they adapting? Yes.

Dude what's wrong with u? Is it me or does it seem like u are just pulling straw men out of ur heinie to make just to make urself feel good? Was the smart lucid argument u started with a fluke? Anyone who in any way thinks what u wrote here isnt remotely nonsensical should have himself checked. This just goes to show u didn't even understand the argument u are attempting to refute. Because the analogy I used does not resemble this misrepresentation at all.

By the way, the bacteria that are drug resistant have been shown to have shorter life span compared to those that don't have.

This was unnecessary and doesn't help ur position in any way. U were just trying to show off.

And these bacteria will never become fishes (for example) because of that adaptation. They will continue to be bacteria.
The human beings living in the South and North Poles of the earth will continue to be human beings. They will never develop feathers and become birds or develop hooves.

Next time lead with this.
That said, this argument is subject to speculation. U haven't lived long enough to know what will happen. Even the whole existence of Homo sapiens is not long enough.
We know people with genetic conditions that make the grow treelike warts on their body. Now lets assume those warts don't kill them for some reason and then there is a natural disaster that wipes off humanity save for those people. In 200,000 years time, the humans u will find on earth may not look anything like what's presently obtainable. They may even begin to look like porcupines. But they won't be porcupines. The assumption u have is that animals must evolve into other existing animals. Not true. Usually the evolutionary route animals take to arrive at the same features or abilities are usually very different.

Its desperate Neo-Darwinians that saw the errors of Charles Darwins works that now try to stylishly include adaptation and defence mechanisms as part of evolution.
Otherwise, all living things adapt.
But will never change because of that adaptation.

Evolution is not about Darwin. Evolution is about science. Darwin's theories may have had some flaws but it doesn't preclude improvements that build on them. The same way certain flaws in Newton's theories does not invalidate everything in Newtonian physics. Science is about evolving knowledge unlike religion. At least science can admit when they are wrong and adopt better proven theories

Anyway, I will like to know more from you on reproducible evidences.
And take note, I am not trying to change your opinion.

Will post it soon as I find it.

EDIT: Found something on the same experiment on the net.
http://theconversation.com/why-so-many-domesticated-mammals-have-floppy-ears-29141

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/mans-new-best-friend-a-forgotten-russian-experiment-in-fox-domestication/

Now this is just human influenced over a short period of time. Notice that even structure changes sometimes here. Then imagine what can happen over eons and even eons more. Even in a short while humans were able to create dogs, an entirely new species, from wolves. Imagine what nature can do with the time it has had.

felixomor:
Antibiotics resistance by microorganisms is not proof of evolution. Its a desperate call.
All living things at all levels have defence mechanisms. Its simply a defence mechanism for their survival.
And it has been confirmed that bacteria always had this behaviour even before the discovery of antibiotics by Alexander Fleming, just like a chameleons defence mechanism.
And this doesn't change their structure. They remain the same bacteria and continue to reproduce alike.

Unlike what evolution says that they will change in structure, they have not and will never.

And please I will like to know other reproducible scientific proofs of evolution that can be demonstrated.

Felixomor, I didn't know u can lay down lucid arguments like this but let me help u further in that line. How is a defense mechanism different from evolution? U have forgotten that natural selection is also a tool for evolution.
So if a bunch of ungulates have amongst them slow and fast moving ones, but then their habitat gets invaded by a predator who is able to feed on all the slow moving ones leading to a proliferation of fast moving ones who in turn pass down only the fast moving genes from generation to generation that after 5 generations we have extremely fast moving ungulates in that habitat. Won't the predators be right to say that those ungulates have evolve into fast moving uncatchable bastards?
Of course the predators themselves would have to evolve because then only those who are fast enough to catch prey will be able to live long enough to birth children and they themselves would evolve in the process.

The same thing extends to humans. We know there are a few people in this world that are resistant to HIV. Let's assume that a very virulent strain of HIV capable of killing within minutes becomes airborne this instant and infects all humans save for those ones with immunity and over generations, the virus remains and children born without the immunity dies instantly until only the genes for immunity get passed down from generations to generations that the virus seems not to have effect on humans anymore, won't the humans be said to have evolved into an HIV resistant species?

U see evolution doesn't speak only about structure. It speaks to minute changes here and there. In the end those changes can be structural over eons or over millennia.
An example of the above is a study about how foxes kept with humans for generations begin to grow shorter snout and less pointy ears. U can search Google for other examples if ur bias will allow u see their point without opposing it with a sense of religious duty.
I will search my archive for that fox example and post it here if I find it.

So to your argument about bacteria and defense mechanism, that's evolution too. That's why u are advised to complete whatever dosage u are given to fight a bacteria because soon as u don't this is what happens:
U take say half dosage and the bacteria doesn't get killed off totally as it should. But instead it becomes dormant and starts replicating like bacteria do until only the ones resistant to that half dosage remains.
The next time u fall sick with the same bacteria, u will probably take a full dose. But this time the drug will only be half effective because those guys are now half resistant to the full dose. The foregoing occurs again. Mind u there is a limit to the dosage u can take before the antibiotic begins to kill u as much as the bacteria u are fighting. In the end its not different from the examples I gave above

Horlufemi:
It's not a flaw, it only raises more questions. That's the scientific way. True scientists don't deny truth, they follow the truth to where it leads.

I'm only here to destroy the machine of Atheists (Evolution). It's unscientific requires magic and total bullocks. You can't believe in evolution and insult theists.

The argument only states it comes from a mind. The question now is whose mind? A designer, but we don't know who or what it/they is/are and I'm going to find out.

My problem with Atheists it's they are as guilty as theists when it comes to faith. Evolution is blind Faith. Every aspect of evolution has been destroyed scientifically by today's science. It's religion in a sense

I'm still doing some research.

Nah. U haven't even destroyed evolution one bit. And it would appear u don't understand what evolution is all about. Evolution does not claim to know how beings originated. It only shows how organisms got to where they are today from primitive species that preceded them. Evolution and creationism aren't mutually exclusive. They can exist side by side.
And no, evolution hasn't been destroyed scientifically by today's or tomorrow's science. Anyone spouting such drivel is either a quack or is ignorant or both.
Evolution is the best tool for predicting and understanding today's organisms and it has been proven effective countless times. As a matter of fact, the antibiotic resistance that we are seeing this days is just one of a few proofs.
An intelligent creator will actually prefer evolution in such a chaotic world. Create organisms and allow the evolve to survive as their world changes. Its the best form of engineering. Adaptive engineering.
A first order creator would create.
A second order creator would create and repair if his creation gets damaged.
A third order creator would infuse the creatures with the ability to reproduce others like itself. That's reproduction.
A fourth order creator will give them an ability to conquer their surroundings and adapt and constantly improve themselves in order to thrive. That's evolution.
Humans do it to machines we create. Why do u think an all intelligent being like God would have missed that step?

I am not an atheist. But arguments like these even exposes the flaws in theism especially the sort that originated from the stock of Abraham.

The arguments in the OP is valid. The DNA is too complex and purposeful to be seen as originating out of thing air. Any man with a theistic slant will find it hard to believe that such a marvelous function can materialized without forethought by an intelligent super being. I believe so too.
But the flaws it exposes are numerous. For instance, if we are going to argue that the DNA with all its concomitant flaws, as eloquently explained by @LightandDarkness, cannot originate without a creator, where does that leave us with God? God is even supposed to be more complex than a DNA yet those who impugn atheists using the DNA as an evidence believe God to be self sufficient and requiring no creator.
And if we are to believe that a being as complex as God can materialize without a creator, why is it so hard to believe the DNA or the universe itself can also--- evolving more and more into the complex existence we see today?

lol @ poem. The oyinbo no know say na heavy otumokpor recitations the Nigerian guy dey try

Akanniade:
Loki is an old trickster norse god.

You are right. And, considering that, @barackodam is probably also right too. If Loki is a trickster, it isn't hard to see him being Mr World too. Probably playing both sides.

Perhaps it's time to do some research on the book. Maybe that's where barackodam got his info from

barackodam:
Odin isn't God of War, and shadow is a demigod like you opined.

Mr World is Loki also

Odin is a war god. I didnt mention anything about God of War. Vikings actually love to die in warfare so they can be raised by Odin and dine with him in Valhalla and also fight on his side when Ragnarok comes. Only those who die in warfare qualify for such glorious ressurection.
Mr World isn't Loki.
Loki is Shadow's cellmate in prison. He was the one who gave him the immortal advice: Do not piss off those bitches at the airport. His name in the movie will give u a hint he is Loki

thenny312:
I love this tactic, because Wednesday wants people to pray he made ostara take spring
This series can really make one doubt the existence of somethings
I still don't know how shadow fits into odins plan, as he went through a lot of trouble recruiting him... ....
They should find Laura another body or just do anything to help her, Me sef dey dey perceive the odour
Am I the only person who doesn't still trust Wednesday he just seems sketchy to me
Guys is Mr world really dead??

Actually it's more because he wants war. He is a war god and the only way he can be worshiped is through war. That's why those Vikings in episode 3 or so decided to fight to the death to get him to heed them and he did. That's also why Mr World didn't want war with him. They wanted to wait him out but he forced their hand. He even said it one of his names is Glad-of-War.
And war amongst gods will probably provide him more sustenance than wars amongst men have.
"You have your war Glad-of-War. Be glad. It will be a war you will die in"-- Mr World.

I think Shadow is probably a god too. Either a god incarnate or a demigod. He obviously seems to have powers that can rival a gods. He can conjure snow with his mind. And he took on Mad Sweeney singlehandedly. Wednesday needed to test him and I am sure he tested him with someone with superhuman strength. His best friend in jail was Loki. And Easter seemed to remark that his joining the game seems to have certain people, presumably the new gods, upset. He obviously has enough power to tip the scales

This is the problem with Nigeria. We are stuck in a vicious circle of our own making.

Our penchant for quick fixes is what has translated to inordinate fixation with religion. It's easier to pray against enemies holding us back than to take responsibility for our failings. It's easier to share testimonies about the one or two "miracles" that happened in church than actually recognize the numerous "miracles" that should have happened in the country but isn't happening.

Now, this intellectual slothfulness in turn translates to less actual productive work being generated. Less industries and less education and less discoveries. Instead we have churches taking over complexes that used to employ thousands of workers. If God was on their side, it shouldn't be potential sources of employment for the teeming Nigerian population that should be taken over.

In turn, the population who are less able to locate a stable source of income to acquire the bare necessities of life run into those churches seeking miracles and reprieve from the horror that is the Nigerian economic state further fueling the religious madness that has griped the nation.

There's nothing spectacular about what Nathaniel Bassey has done. And it will achieve nothing other than ego stroking for him. Isnt that what modern Christianity is about anyway? Showmanship, boastfulness and a lot of ego stroking. Not in anyway different from hip hop. Its all about the blings, bitc.hes and beefs. They show off their wealth like hip hop artists, show off the fine ladies attending their churches, those religious vixens, and probably have one or two of them as side chicks. And then they tell us about beefs with spiritual enemies.
Tell me that isn't hiphop.

thegreengooner:
Thank you for the update. This is great news. Could it be that in their hoping against hope, it was counted unto them for Righteousness and they subsequently entered into the promise?

All the sly digs don't have any effect on me

This guy sha. Hahahaha.

Guys calm down. Let's continue with what we were doing. Hopefully when the guys with offers resume, things will be a little clearer.

The question no one here seem to be asking is Mr Wednesday himself a good god or a bad god. We know he is cunning. The purposes he needs Shadow Moon for are less than noble, we know that.
The question is if he does get his wish, will he be a benevolent god or less?

*sigh*
I am sure somewhere right now a follower of Chopra has opened up a similar thread in another forum. Only this time he is talking about how Koukl misrepresented facts and how Chopra showed superior knowledge and calm.
Isn't that how these debates usually go?
Pointlessness

feelgoodInc:
your real dad.

You are too daft to get a joke. Stupid frustrated people everywhere

rottennaija:
Christianity is not supposed to be a religion. It was is supposed to be a way of life, which should be influenced by Bible messages.

Unfortunately, religious organisation have turned Christianity into religion, members becoming their followers instead of being Jesus's followers. They see members as belonging to them, they own them and rule or govern over them. Creating religious hierarchy in the process, having big names.

Most religious organisation basically become a secondary mediator, inserting themselves between Jesus and the members. And that is why they can boastfully claim "if you don't belong to our organisation, you are not worshiping God".

Now, I believe that's is the mentality that has to be fought. Members need to start knowing that christ is their head, not religious organisation and that in the judgment day, it will be between them and christ. They cannot latter say, my pastor said so or my religious organisation said these.

Bunkum.
A religion is a way of life. There is no way we are letting u separate the two even if parroting the inexistent dichotomy strokes ur ego. Christianity is a religion which in turn is a way of life. Same as Islam and Zoroastrianism.
Nothing makes u special.

Mescopaul:
CHRISTIANS: QUIT FIGHTING RELIGION, FIGHT YOURSELF.

Zealous CHRISTIANS often say that:

"Christianity is NOT a religion"

If it's not a religion, then what is it?

A sect? A race? Or a movement?

Fellow believers, our problem is not in the DEFINITION of the word "Religion", but in our failure to produce the typical Christianity that existed in the time of Christ.


So stop fighting "religion" and fight YOURSELF.


Fight your convinctions.


Fight your lukewarmness.


Fight your coldness.


Fight your gross ignorance.


Fight your foolishness and idiosyncracies.

As far as I'm concerned, CHRISTIANITY is a full blown religion, and the best one at that.




#GoodMorning
#Mescopaul

The part in bold font is what I agree with the most.
90% of modern Christianity is sheer foolishness and undiluted ignorance

hopefulLandlord:
Onyenze123, check out this thread www.nairaland.com/3615455/does-new-covenant-abolish-ten/10 and see how our "Christians" who have deep personal relationship with the same dead Jew can't even agree if the the old covenant has been abolished or not, not only did they disagree, they insulted themselves very badly with the aid of the Holy spirit of course

Guy u no nice at all.
I just read that page of the thread and laughed so hard.
Then I flipped to the next page and saw a post by CatfishBilly about convening another Council of Nicaea. I laughed so hard I almost peed.
What a way to start a morning

CHM11:
You could have simply ignored the question he asked

Actually he gave an answer. He is telling the rest of us to move on with our lives.

Because ladies are on the average more gullible than men. They are much more given to sentiments and are more likely to believe that every goosebumps they get is an evidence of the manifestation of the supernatural.

That's why they usually outnumber males in most religious gatherings. This is the same reason why they are most likely to be swayed by smooth talk.

Smallville10:
For ur mind now, u smart abi...

U are a waste of sperm

jamex93:
op u r just too confused

totally confused


100% confused

KhalDroggo:
I tell you. Waste of sperm and waste of oxygen. OP would have been aborted if only his parents were educated enough to know what abortion is.

3 blind mice. No patience. No intelligence. They are just eager to thoughtlessly fight anything that appears to be against their belief and they are too blind to even see when someone is on their side. This is what happens when hasty itchy fingers mixes with low grade brain capacity.

analice107:
Tobit was said to be a man, a Jew who was taken into exile to Assyria by King Sennacherib.
NOTE, (in the Bible, King Sennacherib couldn't succeed in taking Jews as slaves). But it is recorded in Tobit that he indeed took them as slaves.

So, Tobit was living in Nineveh, but was going to Jerusalem to worship Yahweh.

Tobit had a son by name Tobias. He (Tobit) was blind and felt he could die anytime, but a man was owing him in another city, so he sent his son Tobias to go get the money.

Meanwhile in that city, there was a young lady who was married to a spiritual husband by the name "Asmodeus", This spirit husband won't let her marry or have sex with a human man, as he usually kills her husbands immediately after marriage.

She had lost 7 husbands before meeting Tobias.

Now Tobias was to Travel to Ecbatan to collect back the money his father loaned out along time back, but he didn't know the way. He meets a man who happens to be ANGEL RAPHAEL, but Raphael didn't disclose his identity to Tobias.

Raphael pretends to be a relation to the man who owed the money in Ecbatana, so Raphael agreed to accompany Tobias to Ecbatana and show him the way and.



Tobit 6:1-8

So Tobias and the angel started out toward Media, taking Tobias' dog along with them. They walked on until sunset, then camped by the Tigris River. 2 Tobias had gone down to wash his feet in the river, when suddenly a huge fish jumped up out of the water and tried to swallow one of his feet. Tobias let out a yell, 3 and the angel called to him,

Grab that fish! Don't let it get away.

Then Tobias grabbed the fish and dragged it up on the bank.

4 Cut the fish open, the angel instructed,
and take out its gall bladder, heart, and liver. Keep these with you; they can be used for medicine, but throw away the guts.

5 Tobias did as the angel had told him. Then he cooked the fish, ate part of it, and salted the rest to take along with him.

The two continued on together until they were near Media.6 Then Tobias asked,
    Azarias, my friend, what diseases can be cured by this gall bladder, heart, and liver?

7 The angel answered,
    The heart and liver can be burned and used to chase away a demon or an evil spirit that is tormenting someone. The attacks will stop immediately, and the person will never be troubled again. 8 You can use the gall bladder to treat someone whose eyes are covered with a white film. Just rub it on his eyes and blow on the film, and he will be able to see again.

NOTE, The Angel lied to Tobias to be a relative of the man in Ecbatana when he met Tobias, but when he met Tobias's father Tobit, he also lied about his name. He told Tobias that his name was Raphael, but later told Tobit that his name was Azarias. And that he was their relative.



Raphael replied,
    My name is Azarias, and I am the son of the older Ananias, one of your relatives.
Tobit 5:12.


Now, Tobias had killed the Fish, got the heart and the liver and the gall bladder.

Now, close to the house of Raguel, the man who Tobit sort, Raphael suggests to Tobias to propose marriage to Sarah, the daughter of Raguel, the girl whose husbands die on their wedding nights.


Tobias refuses because he didn't want to die,

But, Raphael told him what to do with the Gall bladder, Heart and liver of the fish he had caught.


 16 When you go into the bedroom, take the fish's heart and liver with you and place them on the burning incense, 17 so that the odor will spread throughout the room. When the demon smells it, he will leave and never come near Sarah again

Tobit 6:16-17


So, Tobias married Sarah. That night when they were to consummate, The Spirit husband Asmodeus came to kill Tobias, he burnt the Fish heart, gall bladder and liver. When the demon perceived the Smell, the demon ran away to Egypt.


The Demon Is Expelled

8 When they had finished the meal, and it was time to go to bed, Sarah's parents led young Tobias to the bedroom. 2 He remembered Raphael's instructions, so he took the fish's liver and heart out of the bag where he had been keeping them. Then he placed them on the burning incense.3 The smell drove the demon away from them, and he fled to Egypt. Raphael chased after him and caught him there. At once he bound him hand and foot.


Biko, how does this align with any other Biblical history accounts.

And, from when does Angels of God pretend, lie, and uses physical mundane means to deal with demons who are spiritual beings like them.

This is where the Catholic Church got their Exorcism practices from.


The Bible never mentions Tobias or Tobit any where else.

The Bible never Mentioned Israel's exile in Assyria under Sennacherib. As a matter of Fact, recorded in 2Chronicles 32 that King Sennacherib came threatening King Hezekiah of Israel, Isaiah was the Prophet then, Yahweh told him to tell Hezekiah not to worry that Sennacherib will never enter Israel much less shoot a bow into Jerusalem.


God made Sennacherib to hear a rumour that other nations where joined together to attack him, he ran away as the Angel of the Lord went into their Camp and killed his soldiers, he ran to his village, while praying in the temple of his god, his two sons went in there and killed him. They ran away and his third son became king of assyria.

1Chron 32: 23. In this way the Lord rescued King Hezekiah and the people of Jerusalem from the power of Sennacherib, the emperor of Assyria, and also from their other enemies. He let the people live in peace with all the neighboring countries. 23 Many people came to Jerusalem.


Apart from the laughable manner the Angel went about dealing with a fellow Angel, howbeit fallen, the account doesn't agree with the Bible account.

If you ask me, this was why, it was removed.

Shalom.

Makes sense

There's nothing I love more than a honest Christian who is able to separate his religious convictions from a logical view of the world. Aquiprsy, respect.

Some people take nairaland way too seriously. We are now having feuds that seem like some people are out to destroy one another. This is no longer the usual short back and forth jibes again. This is venom.

Make I unfollow una thread for una. Na picture and fun I be find come o

MDCCCXXXII:
Thank goodness the organ dangling between my loins isn't stupid.

Shall we?

My man, e be like say na sexual things full ur head today o. This one wey u just dey attempt or encourage shagging so. I am not understanding again

luvmijeje:
Seun, can you see what I'm saying? This foul mouthed guy just rain insult on me and there's no consequence.

We need an active moderator.

Nope u need a native doctor. So he can wash ur head for u and deliver u from the spirit of sticking ur nose where it doesn't belong

luvmijeje:
Seun, your moderators are not active in this section.

Look at this sadist. When u aren't spewing religious bile, u are calling on the moderators to rain on this parade. Party pooper. Be gone from here. Go and continue spreading ur thoughts about hell and eternal damnation that's only as effective as a vestigial organ. Leave this thread for sane minds.
Sad Christian