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Ishilove:
Are you saying she likes 'em young?

Na u talk so o

LoJ:
You are handsome bruv, though looking younger than I expected.

I swear. Now Analice107 will start disturbing Hardmirror the more

Image123:
This is over flogged. The point though is that Jesus should be the author and finisher of your faith. Of all the 1001 things Elisha did, you are yet to reproduce or copy one, so i wonder if you want to copy this one or what. Follow Jesus, you will not miss it that way.

I like how u are indirectly saying what Elisha did to those children isn't worthy of emulation. That's as close as we will probably get to a honest Christian on this thread. More honest and logical than Enshy's condescending "he's authority" answer.

enshy:
Your response wearies me.
Did Elisha kill 42 children?
He gave a pronunciation, it came to pass and only a man of authority does that.
And you compared that with someone who killed with the Knife? When the Police arrests him, he can tell he learnt it from Elisha.
Pls you dont comment on all threads, learn also from the Wise!
cc hopefulandlord or hopefullandlord

What's ur point? Are u saying it is right because a man of authority did it? What kind of twisted minds do these Christians have?
So Elisha using his ability to kill children for mocking him is somehow good and different from Muslims using their ability to also kill those who mock them and their religion because authority? What planet are u from?

absoluteSuccess:
You bet you don't have a clue to historical-encription in Yoruba tale of creation. If I start to ask you to analyse and decode the story, you will feel baffled to talk about what's to you a cock and bull story. But the story of Yoruba myth in particular did exactly what the recorders want it to do.

So, are they fools trying to tell a foolish story? No, they were intelligent historians recording history with the accurate wisdom of their time. And you need to understand the mnemonics of that particular time if ever their story will mean anything to you at all than pure garbage.

The creation story in the bible cannot be seen as 'happening now' report but ex-post-facto. It remains the truth as can be conveyed in the language of man as it was when written. In it, God, or the Intelligent designer has a purpose and he made it come to pass as he has wanted.

But in 'big bang theory' a chaotic cosmic body explode and the universe is what it is today: in order I would say. My sincere awe is, how does order comes from disorder? How does a cosmic machine as the universe is invent itself? Who derive joy in the beauty of the book of creation?

If the universe is purposeless, what's the purpose in existence? Life is derivative of no particular order, no particular purpose, but explosive chaos going on for aeons. So creation or existence is a busy but no core purpose place? That's the end of all the advancement of science.

The moment you want to make meaning out of this scientific life, the God factor and its humble creed will haunt you day by day. The religious book will never be rewritten, but the scientific explanation of the origin will never become scientifically proven: a house divided against itself shall not stand.

So u wrote this long wall of shyte because of who? Me? All what u wrote up there is filled with so much fallacies that I don't even know where to begin.
The first mistake u made is probably assuming I am an atheist and I believe "the universe is purposeless" as u so eloquently put it.
I can't even begin to have a conversion with u when ur submission is already filled with so much prejudice.
Bye bye.

italo:
The bible was not written to teach you science or history...as science textbooks are not written to teach you theology or history...and history textbooks are not written to teach you science or theology.

The theological truths of the bible, as explained by the Church are absolute. The Church doesnt impose it on anyone, but rather proposes it to the world.

An example: God exists. That is an absolute truth that we propose to the world. However, you are free to believe that the world and all intelligence in it came from random particles that began to collide against one another. Your business.

First I am not atheist and I am not Muslim lest ur paranoia takes over. I do believe in God. So that's not the argument we are having.
Now u are probably the first open-minded Christian I have met; able to separate ur theology from ur science. Fine. So I have no argument with u anymore. My grouse is with those who gives a fundamentalist interpretation to the bible who will seek to use it as the basis for science and every other knowledge and who will challenge facts because it runs contrary to what is written in the bible.
Cheers bro

italo:
There is no problem with the bible. It is people who think the bible is a science textbook that have a problem.

If in my story, I say it rained cats and dogs, and science proves that cats and dogs didnt fall from the sky, does that make my story false? No.

The bible was written to convey theological truths, not scientific facts, even though it does contain some scientific truths.

What does that part in bold even mean? The bible contains scientific inaccuracies, historical inaccuracies and any other form of inaccuracy u can think of. That isn't a problem in itself. It can be chalked up to the creative liberty of its authors. But the problem arises when u try to force it down other people's throats and call it absolute truth

madone:
lol mr argument
Wait for sensible argument to counter.its spells it all. Lol football no reach u argue again na miracle u wan dey argue now . Mtcheeeew I can see how occupied u re. Mr counter argument sit back ur type re coming

So it took u a month for ur brain to cook up this silly thing u wrote riddled with bad punctuation and u think this is some kind of comeback? U are hopeless. And u are obviously not worth half the time it took to type this reply to u. U will be ignored henceforth.

onyenze123:
Wonderful.

Going by this logic, we should discard the bible entirely.

Most old testament were written this way, hundreds of years after those events happened.


The four gospel accounts were written 200 years after the 'death' of Jesus.

If you look at the works of Tom Harpur (An Anglican priest and professor of new testament) on "the pagan Christ", you will be amazed how the new testament came to be.

Nobody is saying u should discard the whole bible. It isn't total garbage. And there are wisdoms still to be gleaned from it as long as we acknowledge it isn't exactly infallible or the written word of God. And there are parts of it that should be dismissed as bunkum.

The bible is mostly just religious prejudice written by people who didn't know better and who thought they were actually doing the work of God. Still, it is better than the Quran. Far better.

onyenze123:
The book of Genesis says so, not my belief.

The book of genesis? I even thought u were being logical. A book transcribed from the oral folklore of Bronze Age goat herders whose culture was rife with superstitions. Whose present day descendants only see it as an allegory but nor genuine historical fact.
If I believe in that badly thought out story, by the same logic I should also believe in Yoruba folklore about chickens and palm kernel and shyte.
Peace

onyenze123:
I don't even understand. So the pope is saying that Richard Dawkins is right?

I mean if evolution is true, then the Christian/biblical God doesn't exist and the church has lost its foundation.

May I stay with my deism for now

That's where ur problem lies. Ur bane is the belief that evolution and God is mutually exclusive. And that's a very parochial world view. A being as intelligent as God would actually use evolution as a tool to make sure His creation survives and adapts.
Even we as humans develop adaptable machines and systems. We have begun to jettison rigid engineering.
Think bro, think.

absoluteSuccess:
He's not 'someone' he is pope.

Just as if Darwin should declare that God created the world.

Evolution may not be a myth to you but it is not an 'act of creation' to me.

It is the figment of someone's imagination about the cosmos and the biosphere.

Because you call it scientific never transform it to an irrefutable fact.

But the creation story is irrefutable fact right? LOL. The clowns keep coming out of the woodwork

The good wine in those days was grape juice that had not yet fermented?
OP u are just another dishonest Christian. Too many dodgy Christian apologists we have these days. U are just trying to shoehorn the bible to fit ur own dogma. You have bring historical evidence to prove ur assertion or just hold ur peace.
Jesus was a Jew. Jews drink wine. Alcoholic wine. To be even clear, the Lord's supper involved bread, another the Jews used to love, and wine. Not fruit juice. Real freaking alcoholic wine capable of gross intoxication. Because that's what they all drank then.
Modern Christians don't even know history. They just read the bible in isolation without even considering the history of the times. And that's why u are all ignorant and follow ur pastors like sheep.

stevebori7:
exactly that is the truth, everybody have his/her own weakness, he may do it but that does not give room for anybody to judge him. the best thing is to pray for him.

That does not give room for anybody to judge him? U guys are clowns. Shameless clowns. U have no intelligence and u are not even bright enough to realise it. If it was an imam or anyone else now u would have gleefully bashed them. Now u somehow forgot to apply the same methods here.
So a pastor can sit somewhere and rail against homosexuals and judge them. And rail against those who do not pay tithes and judge them. And rail against other denominations whose practices he doesn't agree with, be it Celestial Church or the Catholic church, and judge them......but soon as the foolish hypocrite is caught in his usual sins, u idiots come out in droves spouting ludicrous nonsense. U are a shame to justice and a shame to the Christianity u claim.
Receive sense in the name of the Lord.

Pfft. Almost everybody in church is a liar. The worship leaders lie. The pastors lie and embellish their stories to give it more credibility to gullible people. The pastor's wife is probably lying when she says she loves and supports her husband especially when he is caught in a scandal. She is just there for the prestige and perquisites that comes with being the wife of a pastor.
Humans are liars generally.

lightblazingnow:
From your point everything is so clear



Have you looked again?



I have no tears for dust.


The almighty father God, the father of our lord Jesus Christ have rejected​ you.








Who are mine to teach you to hear his voice.




Until you humble yourself and cry out for help, you will continue to be in the dark.



John 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

Yawn

By their English u shall know them. Dumb Christians.

lightblazingnow:
What you know is your level




You can't rise up

And, u, have u risen up? U are even less than an ordinary man. U aren't bright. U aren't intelligent. Ur conversation is even boring. For someone who claims to have a direct line to the infinite capacity that is God Himself, to the extent that u are able to speak in ethereal languages, u don't seem to be able to help urself and u talk like u need a brain transplant. U are unable to come to simple logical conclusions. And the bible that should even be the only thing u probably know, u bungled it up very badly. I doubt u actually read ur bible well. If u did u won't be parroting the same nonsense half witted Christians, who only suckle at the teats of pastors, do about demons and tongue speaking.

Now u can claim all u want that u truly know God and all that self praising nonsense people like u are wont to do. But every failure of urs, every stupid decision u have taken (like quoting me), every of ur inability to see an impending ill that later befell u, shows u are just a joke. A clown!!!

LOL. These dumb Christians coming to boast about hollow tongues that have not one power.
The only thing it seems good for is the psychological feeling and the tingling sensation that comes with believing u are actually communicating with God. And as a means to claim superior knowledge over other Christians.
Empty tongues that can't solve Nigeria's problems or proffer solutions to the ills of this world. Clowns.
By the way, wasn't the precedent of tongue speaking heard and understood by others around? Isn't that how the bible tells the story? So how did this OP get his own idea of speaking in tongues being a spiritual encryption of the words to preclude demons from gleaning the point of the conversation? Clown!!!

Martinez19:
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All these they said and nobody noticed but I kept record of these nonsense. One pastor was teaching about faith and he told us that he has prayed to God to heal his eyes so that he stops using glasses. He took off his glasses and said he is no more wearing it. Like play like play, he went back to his glasses some days later and no sheeple noticed it enough to question him.

This is how modern Christianity operates. It's nothing but a sham. They downplay their losses and play up their gains. If the pastor had truly been healed, u guys won't have heard the last of it. But when the opposite occurs, they quickly pretend as if nothing happened and the compliant followers also develop amnesia just as quickly.
That's why testimonies in churches are tools to perpetuate these scams. A pastor prays for a hundred barren women to receive children for 10 years but nothing happens. Then suddenly one of the women conceives after all these while due to perseverance and visiting skilled physicians who help her with the latest technology and scientific breakthrough. U will hear the pastor screaming on top of his voice and sharing posters of the woman's testimony as if his life depends on it. But no one remembers the 99 other women who probably couldn't access such medical skill due to lack of money or other constraints.

Please who has the link to RCCG website. I really need to see that quote myself

Hahahaha. Spiritual racketeering at its finest. Carry on baba. Maga must pay. Next one make it every 3 months. Those huskies never learn.

^^these two guys aren't nice

Yes. They do.
Some pastors go to even the best hospitals when seek and hide under the guise of vacation. But they will sell u the faith thing when it's ur turn.
They also go on vacation when they need some extra booty on the side too. Some of them sneak to places and countries where they aren't well known and enjoy a little as.s

Pidgin2:
I hope you read what you wrote before posting, God definitely speaks to us and it's up to us to listen or not.

LOL. Stop clowning around.
So God spoke to the pastor and he refused to listen. Then God watched as the devil dropped a building on the innocent congregation? Are u even listening to urself?
U want to tell me that if God sent an angel into a donkey or a lizard or whatever just to speak and stop people from entering the building that day, it wouldn't have worked? Or just cause something to delay the collapse until after people leave. Or.......
This is the same God u claim raises the dead every other crusade in Nigeria.

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Pidgin2:
Was it God that made the engineer to buy sub standard materials? How do you know if God was not placing difficulties on the way in a bid to stop the launching of the church building but the pastor was busy telling the congregation to pray and fast against any obstacles.

Your argument is pointless

Actually it's ur own argument that is pointless. If God truly speaks to men, he would have said it loud and clear and in no uncertain terms to the pastor. Hell, He would have even used a donkey to talk to the pastor or the innocent people. Can u beat that?
Its funny u say u believe in a god who is oh so powerful. When things go right in marvelous ways, u begin to point to that as evidence of omnipotence. But when things go wrong u begin to blaspheme against God and make Him look like any other man who is incapable of lifting a finger.
U guys need to decide if u are worshiping an omnipotent God or just another god. U can't keep choosing either depending on the circumstance.

yemi1261:
Well, OP, I give you a passmark for this write-up. All you wrote are true to some extent. Am a not a true fan of religion. I have spotted so many errors in the lives of so many religious fanatics including Christians. For this reason, I have decided on how to live my life and ready for the judgment day if indeed it will come. But of recent, something happened to me that I find hard to explain how it happened. I want to believe God proved himself. My baby fell from a story building unhurt. Infact no any mark to show that he truly fell, and till today am still in disbelief. I think truly God saved that boy or do you have explanation for this?

Yeah. God probably saved him. But which of the numerous gods are we talking about here?
I am sure a Hindu baby must have fallen from a story building unhurt recently too. Does that mean Shiva proved himself?
I am sure the same thing happened to a Muslim baby recently too. Does that mean Allah proved himself?
I am sure the same thing......u see where this is going, don't u?
It is one thing to be grateful, I am grateful ur baby escaped unhurt. Thank God. But it is another thing for us to suppose such random good things coming on our way somehow validates our beliefs and verifies the capacity and transcendence of our personal Deity over others.
Whether u are a Christian or not, there is no difference.

madone:
u re feeling fulfilled for this copied article.guy wake up.go get a job it LL help u focus on real things instead of asking why be God.

Why is it that jobless people always feel that everyone else is as jobless as they are?
I am still waiting for the sensible counter arguments that u will provide though.

Only Felixomor can come into a thread like this and make an utter monkey of himself.

And Felixomor can't be a doctor. He is too clumsy and intellectually uncoordinated. Although his arguments seem to be a little more structured these days unlike when I first noticed him. He has gotten a little better by engaging superior minds here. Still he is innately handicapped by his need to be relevant on the religious section. It irks him that more and more people in this section dont take him seriously or consider him sound. This same need compels him to rush into discussions without organising his thoughts well.
If he is truly a doctor, then there will be a lot of his ex-patients walking around with the wrong diagnosis.

@OP, u have to be willing to really show that demons tremble and big churches heal. Not all those claims they make. If u are willing to subject urself to an experiment where u are locked in a room with a proven violently crazy man and u only have to call on the name of Jesus to save u as well as heal the person, then we can have a discussion.

I am not an atheist by the way. But I need verifiable proof from u. Not claims written in parchments by illiterates millennia ago.

adelee777:
from ur reaction n response to dat guy's writeup, i can discern dat u r a true child of God. Pls keep it up. God bless u.

Nah. It has nothing to do with being a true child of God by ur definition. It only shows she is a good person with a well cultivated sense of humour and willing to listen to the view of others no matter how harshly put the view is.

God really bless u missdivineprove. If not for anything but for ur sense of humour

The truth is that most gospel music is horseshit. Unbelievable and unremarkable horseshit.

A regrettable percentage of gospel artists have no talent and are not intelligent enough to discern it. Most will be better off selling chicken suya instead. They think being religious is a substitute for talent and intelligence so they just go into the studio to sing a song they just composed in 2 hours because maybe the "Holy spirit" just inspired them. Surely they can do all things through Christ that strengthens them, right? I laugh. Clowns

One choir girl just wakes up tomorrow and wants to be a musician because one hor.ny choirmaster told her she has a good voice and that God is using her powerfully in musical ministration. Then she hums to herself in a shower for a few days and, viola, she is inside the studio releasing a song chuck full of bible verses; a song that somehow forgets to weave the bible verses into a sweet melodious tune pleasing to the ears. Instead we get an uncoordinated beat cooked up by a producer whose next meal is coming from the payment he is getting from that same beat.
I can bet that if I listen to ur songs, it is 90% likely to be cringe worthy horseshit. Just horseshit with a lot of bible verses and Deity namedropping.

U don't see the likes of Frank Edwards or Don Moen with ur kind of complaints, right? Because they have talent and produce sensible music with good beats. That's why people love them. So if people don't want to hear ur song, it's most likely horseshit. Go and make better songs. People are not gonna buy just any song for religious reasons. Sorry. They are getting ripped off by pastors weekly. They don't need to be ripped off by gospel musicians too.

By the way, the same complaints u have made have been made by struggling secular artists too. They think talking about hustling hard and churning out music upon music and beats from a mediocre producer is a substitute for talent. It isn't. And not even God will help u if ur music doesn't have a nice ring to it.

Sorry OP, ur music is unacceptable not because this is the last days or men prefer evil to good like some dishonest people argued above. The honest truth is that ur music sucks and people that love it, ur family and friends whose opinions are sure to be less than objective, probably needed a lot more time to get attuned to it. Alas, the greater percentage of ur target demographic isn't that patient.

Niflheim:
@op,

The reason why gospel music is frowned at, is because of it's passed antecedents!!! Just check out these gospel albums from the past!!!

PICTURE 1: Encourages us to smoke weed!!!

PICTURE 2: Shows a man with an erect dick!!!

PICTURE 3: Is also encouraging us to get high!!!

PICTURE 4: Is encouraging blow jobs while seated on the piano!!!

PICTURE 4:

LMAO. This is crazy dude.
I am curious though. Is it that u had all those pictures sitting somewhere on ur device all this while or u just quickly googled them after u read the OP