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Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 1:23pm On May 07, 2010
JeSoul:
Nuclearboy & Zikky, we are waiting for your own announcement soon.
Ma'am:

My announcements came before I ever heard of NairaLand.

thinking "hmmmmmm, well, there's space for more, isn't there? will do something about that"

And actually Jesoul, its you we should be expecting such news from. Yes! The book wey you read never reach you?  huh shocked I'm sure there's someone muttering and stammering in anger whenever he looks at you that time is going and he's ready for the sowing
Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 1:10pm On May 07, 2010
^^ Mentor indeed. Thats a guy I have some respect for and who will answer the posers, not try to make this into an emotional battle of wills. Rubbish post - what have you said?

You said we should give to the Lord but then "intepret" Gods Word (opposing 2nd Peter that says God's Word should not be intepreted privately) that giving to the "Lord" means "giving to Pastors". Thief, stealing from God! When did your pastor become God? then you say that means I am not serving "god". Yes, I am not serving your pastor! I serve the living God!

You say the first shall be last. Does that not conversely, apply to you too. Go look in a mirror, THIEF, stealing from God!

You say those who enter not by the door are thieves. Fine - Deut 26 tells us that tithe are meant for [1] needy [2] stranger [3] widow [4] fatherless [5] levite BECAUSE they have no possessions. Jesus and Apostles worked for their living- go find work, thief!

You are a thief, a liar and of the devil - "you 'SEE' the spirit of accusations"  grin. With which eyes? Those hopelessly corrupt and morally bankrupt ones in your head or the "lying" spirits of Baal that live in you that makes you claim the place and rights of the Almighty? Now you can "see" into the spirit and assessing truth, what you see is accusations?  shocked No wonder such as you were unhappy when Jesus whipped money-changers out of the Temple. And that, thief, is all I am doing here - showing you that you are commercialising God's Work and using His name to steal.

What is funny is that you have NOT one scriptural point. NOT ONE. All you do is throw sentiments as though we should feel sorry for you because you have decided to become a pastor and thus bring our livelihood to you and yours. It can't work, you THIEF.

Kumuyi has not (to my knowledge) turned God's Word upside down and so I judge him not. But if he does, watch this space. And before you start shouting "Touch not my anointed" etc, read this https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-439112.0.html#msg5973094. The false prophets God said to kill had to be judged and touched - that means we have to put them on the scales of God's Word, no matter who they are.

Respond as a Christian, not the thief you are. Use scripture concerning this topic not sentiments that cannot be backed by the Word. No one feels sorry for a thief.
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 12:31pm On May 07, 2010
A "He" then, hehehehe grin

Not locking up my daughter except I see a WOFer coming down the road. Particularly our man friday here on NL. Don't want deluded relatives grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 12:26pm On May 07, 2010
^^ You have quoted ONE scripture in defence of everything we said and alluded to Psalm 41: 9. The answer to your scripture is that I do not carry a money bag with anybody's donations. None of us except you tithe-mongers carry bags. So your quote is irrelevant - If a WHITE american is being searched for, nobody can assess to see if it is me since I am black and Nigerian.

You carry the bag: you are under suspicion, not me!

Psalm 41 verse 9 says "Even my close friend, whom I trusted, he who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me". Mr Olaadegbu, do you understand english at all or your delusions are so deep that you just throw anything and hope no-one knows what it says? What does that have to do with this topic? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR EXEGESIS on how this relates to "GIVING TO PASTORS" seeing as your ilk of pastors are more known for collecting than sharing their bread.

BTW, we are saying you should stop lying against God and give to Him what is His due. But you stubbornly refuse to give up your lies and theft. Who then is reprobate and why can you not (as you say we are) do justice to our posers. For you wish them away for lack of intellectual capability and truth, pretend they do not exist them and only cling to throwing the most asinine misquotes and lies.

Abuzola would be insulted to be compared to you. At least he didn't yab because of "cash" but because he believed his claims. You should be renamed "Abuzola minus minus"
Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 11:30am On May 07, 2010
^^^  grin grin  Abuzola indeed and yes, they do sound alike - no coherence or reasoning ability just jihad for that one and "food" for this one  grin

@Olaadegbu:

Yes, Judas HAD the bag. And YOU & your business partners also HAVE the bag today.

On the other hand, Aletheia, Zikky, Enigma, Petres, Ogajim, myself etc DO NOT have the bag and cannot steal what we are saying people should NOT bring. If we said people should bring, maybe we could steal. But we recieve no offerings and believe people can give to the poor of their own violition. It shows how deluded you are to say a person who says "don't give me" wants to steal your money whist postulating it is the one who fights tooth and nail to collect from others through manipulation or lies or maybe even occultism that is honest and well intentioned.

It is you that has the bag and wants people to bring to you their hard earned monies. Lazy bones, all of you, refusing to work and seeking other's sweat. Show us your scriptural mentor in this if not Judas who wanted the money into HIS bag like you want into YOURS
Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 9:19am On May 07, 2010
What is sad is they will come here, pretend they did not see all the information that proves they are wrong, misquote more scripture, rehash more fallacies, try to confuse gullible people then run off claiming they have "proof" tithes work because they tithe and get "returns" from God.

Strange they do not see the insult it is to God that you thus "pay" (or should we say "bribe") Him before you can be blessed.

Again I say, Bill Gates does not tithe! But he gives to charity! Now compare yourself to him
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 8:21am On May 07, 2010
Enigmalet arrived yesterday? Congratulations on that, Bro and God bless him/her (~let doesn't inform which it is) smiley cheesy grin

Make sure you post our full complement of rice and meat in your next post.

Joagbaje must be furious you don't attend CE - twould have meant an "invitation offering" being paid to their treasury. grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 8:11am On May 07, 2010
@Aletheia:

God bless you for this fabulous and enlightening appraisal of what God demands and the alternative "gospel" of these people!  smiley

1 Tim 6: 6 - 9 "Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment,  ()  for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world.  ()  But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. () But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.

1 Jn 2:16  For all that is in the world--the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions--is not from the Father but is from the world.

@Tonye-Tithes & Naira flavored Joagbaje:

See your life shamefully exposed. You live and have desires which are BUT FROM THE WORLD! Why would that be except that YOU ARE OF THE WORLD.
Repentance isn't late. Thinking to myself: can Joagbaje's artistry feed him if he repents? Chei, God or Baal i.e. money
Christianity EtcRe: A Born Again Christian Is Not A Sinner (even If He Sins) by nuclearboy(m): 7:58am On May 07, 2010
^^^ LOL

Atimes I get the impression we spend more time arguing with ourselves rather than passing the Gospel's message across as is duty. I more than most am guilty of this and so I understand you, Romeo4real. But Gunnaz is of a different order than such as pastor Agbaje. His post clearly states he agrees there is an issue there so there's no point pushing against him. Now if it were Agbaje, you'd have heard that there is some funny explanation and all of us have not even grown teeth at all ( see mine  grin) and until pastor chris agrees, the Bible doesn't know what it is saying. Gunnaz used words that ONLY Christians would understand and IMO, that was the only problem since not only christians read NairaLand posts.

Gunnaz:

Please look at what Zodiac61 wrote following my post. You will notice he used the exact word (delusion) I used and ridicules Christianity as been full of "loons". THAT IS THE EFFECT writings such as "Christians are not sinners even when they sin" has on people outside. We need to be careful what we say as its so easy to misunderstand.

Cheers Bro. BTW, seems God is turned around and now ready to bless Naija with the recents events O. It shall be well with us.  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: A Born Again Christian Is Not A Sinner (even If He Sins) by nuclearboy(m): 9:21pm On May 06, 2010
Your caveat makes a world of difference. I'm also particularly glad you realise this forum, this thread and indeed all our posts are viewed by both believers and non-believers. Whist Paul accepted that all things are lawful, he point-blank made it obvious we should not be a stumbling block to others - the "unbel" who sees a claim that even if you sin, you're not a sinner is definitely not edified and will likely [1] have nothing to do with what he'll call "your delusions" i.e. christianity or [2] come join in the firm belief that he has license to do as he wishes.

Either way, its the name of Christ at ridicule since its about Him. Such boasts and claims, are they worth the insult to Christ especially seeing as "true" Christians catch your drift and agree. So ITS THE UNBELIEVER THATS AFFECTED BY YOUR STATEMENT. Please consider this - I knbow I have an advocate who seperates my new nature from my action. It is NOT me that will misunderstand your words.

Peace bro. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: A Born Again Christian Is Not A Sinner (even If He Sins) by nuclearboy(m): 8:41pm On May 06, 2010
Reasonable and erudite as always (only I will not accept another man's kiss, holy or not cheesy)

I think every Christian agrees with what you have postulated above. However, and this is sincere, many people who claim what you have said above actually revel in sin and have decided that they can do as they will. Its so easy to say but misuse is why people disagree with that stand.

Many people will tell you christians pretend and are totally deluded because most times, we just say it whist doing exactly what we feel like.

Maybe you ought put a caveat in your posts to signify that it is only when there is no revelling that your statement stands. grin

Now, I offer you a holy handshake. grin
Christianity EtcRe: A Born Again Christian Is Not A Sinner (even If He Sins) by nuclearboy(m): 7:48pm On May 06, 2010
Hello Gunnaz:

We meet again and I ask the following question from YOU only because I saw in you, a lot of realism the other time. This is my question - [1a] If you, Gunnaz, kill chris oyakilome, is that a sin or not? Or if you commit a crime, [1b] say, you steal - is that a sin or not?

I get something from your posts here - you seperate between the act and the nature but QUESTION [2] what makes the nature if not the act(s)? Please answer my two questions and have a lovely evening smiley
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 3:18pm On May 06, 2010
^^^ It is dirty fighting against Enigma by "hiding" behind fake indignation. That is beneath your "godship". Answer the questions he asked you from Psalm 51 that you have been dodging since. That would show you are about God's work as you claim.

@Jesoul:

This your modesty na wah O - learning from me?  shocked (Aletheia I definitely understand sha). You stand out there ahead, Ma'am and I hope you're having a lovely day  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 2:43pm On May 06, 2010
newmi:
" ENIGMA WAS RIGHT
I will like to state categorically that Enigma and Altheia were both right and correct on the issue of perfection for the OT folks. "

Above is a quote from Joagbaje, l think that its an honourable display of great humility as opposed to the claims of alleged "pride and arrogance" reported to have been portrayed in previous post on this forum upheld by many of antegonists most of whom are well aware of themselves.

so now who is PRIDE and who is HUMBLE?
Hi Guys say cheese !!! grin grin grin grin grin grin
laughing heartily at pride that magnanimously hands out a veneer of "humility" as a gift from a god to religious men grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 8:23pm On May 05, 2010
^^ NOT GIVING BUT SOWING??  huh Olaadegbu: so its business for you, abi?

Anyway, the NL King of avarice is here to defend his treasure cove. Joagbaje, welcome!

It is sad you people have come to this - defending tithes and chris when people are calling Yahweh a liar and you walk by  sad. I can understand Joagbaje and T-Tithes but not Olaadegbu. I do not think you'll find a Christian who doesn't give pastors. But some do so out of love and not because we expect some "reward". God says He will have mercy on whom He will and it is strange that such as Olaadegbu would turn around to believing you can buy favor from God.

Some idiot would have us believe Bill Gates sold his soul to the Devil for money. Same with King Fahd. For your information, Fahd inherited his money and Bill Gates built something that is the basis for you being behind the keyboard you are reading this from. He followed God's commandment to subdue the earth whist you follow satan's directive to subdue MEN!

T-Tithes, you bring examples of the Messiah and compare to chris and company? Are you sane at all? You call your Lord a "great personality" because of your greed? "Great personalities" are people like Mohandas K. Gandhi, Winston Churchill and Dwight Eisenhower. Jesus is your LORD! But you now, because of gifts, reduce Him to a good man uplifting yourself to same status. No wahala, go about bowing for every "great personality" like chris oyaks and when he gets divorced or shows himself homosexual or deranged, we'll see what hole you'll crawl into.

If you like, give the poor and if not, give Bill Gates. Your cup of tea - but when Jesus says "I was hungry and you fed me not", please remember to tell Him "your giving was for pastors alone" and so He should get out of the way and open Heaven's door to your greedy self.
Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 1:51pm On May 05, 2010
Tonye:

When you say "the reason you are not doing well is because you are ROBBING GOD", you are using trickery, fear, emotional blackmail and manipulation. Firstly, the "portion" of tithes in the OT that was meant for the levite was meant for them because the levite had no possessions or inheritance. Which of your MOGs today don't have possessions? Secondly, it was a "portion" not all the tithes! Thirdly, we all are levites today being part of a royal priesthood. Fourthly, Christ defines where He lives (i.e. His House) when He said "when you do for the least of these, you do for me" in relation to clothing, feeding and sheltering the poor. Let me rewrite that for you in clear english -

Jesus (OT) said "Bring ye all the tithes into my House (where I live is my house)"

Jesus (NT) said "I live with the poor because when you feed them, it is me you feed. When you clothe them, it is me you clothe etc"

Deut 26 agrees with this and adds levites ONLY because they have no possessions. So when you say Jesus said "not to neglect tithes", YES, He said not to neglect the poor, needy, widow, stranger and the "priest" WHO IS IN NEED, not a billionaire.

Tonye-T, you said "Give and it shall be given to you, full measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over". Yes, but this works both ways for the mature - give pain and you will be given your full complement of pain in return. Give deceit and get same. Give joy and friendship and see your harvest of same.

What kind of baby "skewed" christianity do you subscribe to that tells you the only thing you can give is Naira or Dollars? Did you ever smile at someone unknown to you and see the stranger light up and smile back? What did you give? What did you get back? Dollars? huh

"berakah" ko, backbone pain ni. The word refers to profit - sowing and reaping as you said with seed not cash. Leave lies and wake up. Those who want earthly wealth plan and work for it not lie with God's name to manipulate gullible people

BTW, after answering each and every single one of your questions, I notice you ignored dealing with them and only just found more questions probably hoping to confuse my steps. Deal with them please, in your next post
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 6:06am On May 05, 2010
@Enigma:

Its sad saying this but the simple truth remains that "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be and remain"
Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 5:55am On May 05, 2010
Olaadegbu:

Honestly (at least to me), you mostly come across as someone who is sincere but when it comes to this "offerings" issue, you suprise me. Read what I wrote in response to Mr Tithes above - do you see me saying its wrong to "GIVE"? What I said is that the compulsion part of it is wrong, unfair and a travesty of truth.

The commandment said to give to the poor, stranger, widow and the levite because has no source of income. Levites were not allowed to have another source of income and so were given part of the tithe in the OT.

Jesus and His apostles set a different tone for the NT. First, everybody became a "priest" with Jesus being the only High Priest. So now, its levites paying tithes to levites?  shocked But again these NT "NEW" priests gave an example and worked for a living.  smiley Paul even boasted that he didn't take from anyone!  smiley Today, nothing and nobody stops a pastor from working and making a living. But they say "the work is too much". As much as what Jesus did? Or what Paul did? Yet I do NOT say they should not be given. I give pastors who I see as doing God's work. But that is not compulsory though nice - it shows they're valued. Once compulsion is involved, that is TAX, not giving.

Anyone who wants to be rich should do business and make investments. The rich guys in the Bible - Abraham, his sons, David, Solomon, Job etc had flocks and great possession they worked or warred for. None of them received tithes as their source of stupendous wealth. It is today that pastors want to own private jets that are purchased by "compulsory gifts". Such are only beggars and beggars don't get rich.

Tithing today is a thieving scam. Prove me wrong and show me levites paying tithes to levites and the Apostles receiving "tithes" as standard operating practice? BTW, you can't eat your cake and have it (except you're 419) - the guy who enters the business of "pastoring" cannot say he won't follow the example of the Apostles who believed their reward was in Heaven. Why do they want it here now?
Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 11:26pm On May 04, 2010
@Olaadegbu:

What is the truth on tithes and offerings?

And what would the Apostle Paul say to the issue of wages being paid to pastors?

Speaking to myself "where is the tithe monster T-T"
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 9:30pm On May 04, 2010
Yes, they were right - AND pastor chris also was right, abi? Why did that have to be announced - that enigma and aletheia have nothing on pastor chris?

Rather than a victory for you, you turned this into another advertisement! embarassed

One day, you will serve God and put man in his place! sad
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Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 8:02pm On May 04, 2010
Zikky wan kill me with laughter !

Mr Tithes:

I think you would have realised with the foregoing that Christians are awake now and tired of the lies and manipulation that enrich "pastors" at the detriment of the society and of the poor. Our monies are meant for God and His people: He defines these HIS needy people as the stranger, the widow, the fatherless, the needy AND levite WHO have no other source of livelihood (Deut 26). Jesus and Paul set the example for "levites" today when they WORKED! Paul informs us that we are a royal priesthood (ALL OF US) with Christ as the ONLY high priest. Where you and fellow lazy-bones get your theology from is your wahala since its definitely not the Word of God.

BTW and in fact, Paul gloried in not accepting "tithes/gifts/etc" from men and was a tent maker all his life. Go find work and get a life
Christianity EtcRe: The Lessons Of Giving And The Hypocrites! by nuclearboy(m): 3:11pm On May 04, 2010
- Nothing is wrong with giving to a man of God (if it is not by trickery, fear based or emotionally motivated)
- Offerings and ^ (the line above) are the same EXCEPT to thieves looking for more ways to scam innocent gullible people
- Prosperity was NEVER preached by Jesus or His disciples. If you are following Him, where's your example from Him or the Apostles
- Deut 26 is very clear THAT tithes belong to the stranger, the needy, the widow AND the Levite (BECAUSE the levite has no source of
    income.) But the Scriptures destroyed your standpoint when it tells us that Jesus, a non-levite, Peter (same) and Paul (same)
    WORKED and NEVER COLLECTED TITHE from anybody. Please oppose this by showing where they preached tithe and collected it.

- Bill Gates, Oprah and King Fahd have greater testimonies - who do they pay tithe to?
- And you believe we don't have Bibles to read? Where does the command come from God except to be paid as outlined above? Liar!
- Because they preach it contrary to God's Word. I preach giving to the needy and no-one calls me a thief since I don't gain from that!

- Giving is a beautiful thing but does not include cash alone and is not to be directed towards jobless pastors only. Go find work
- Prosperity is fine, but not at the cost of another's happiness or lying against God or cajoling people for your pocket's benefit

- The Bible gives stories about all kinds of people (rich and poor). Why don't you preach Job' trials and the Apostles sufferings as doctrine?
- Jesus didn't say "Give unto rich pastors and it shall return to you". He said "GIVE". And He said when you bless the poor and clothe them
    and feed them, you feed HIM - so He felt they were more worthy. If you disagree, quote your Bible!
- Yes, God loves a cheerful giver. Pastors should start giving their possessions too, not taking from poorer people.
- Better read your Bible without sunshades colored with Naira notes. "Riches in Glory" on EARTH?  shocked Chei, see "christian" shocked

- The "antis" are saying what the Bible says - Tell us if the Bible is wrong or not
- Sure we're biased - We're biased FOR GOD and are on God's side. What are you doing standing against God?
- Sentimental? Yes! We know poor people need food, shelter, child fees and hospicare. We also know MOG's cannot enter more than one
    car at a time or sleep in more than one room. Plus, how can the disciples be greater than their master Jesus?

- Who was the hypocrite? - David who wanted to kill the guy who "stole" a poor man's only sheep to feed his guest or Nathan who told
    him he it was that had much yet wanted a poor man's inheritance and was wrong?
- The Bible's Gospel is about a Christian reaping his Labors on EARTH in Heaven. Your gospel is about dominion and cash on earth and its
    contrary to the Word of God. Who is right? You or God?
- This thread is about "profit for you" to you and "profit for God" to me! You tell me who has God in mind and honors Him!

Tonye-tithes,

2 Peter Chap 2 does not discuss tithing or earthly money so you likely never heard or read it. Do yourself a favor and read it. Enjoy your day!
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 8:33pm On May 03, 2010
^^^ Hello Newmi:

The problem with your post is that you ask that we write our own book (commentary) on God's Word. THERE IS NO NEED FOR A COMMENTARY ON THE BIBLE. God ministers to each person that studies it at the point of their need and understanding.

When you studied science at High school, did you read Nelson and Parker's (hope I remember correctly) Principles of Physics or did you write your own and insist your class mates read your own as superior to "Nelson and Parker"? If you could not rewrite a physics textbook written by men and convince others to follow you with that insanity, do you think it is Chris Oyakilome that can re-write God's Word or decide what it means when its plainly obvious it is saying the opposite?

I pray you read this outside of pride or "esteem of man" so that you understand what we're saying. IF THE BOOK (ROR) SUPPORTED THE BIBLE, DO YOU THINK WE'D QUESTION IT'S MOTIVES? If Joagbaje was saying what the Bible says, do you think we'd tell him he's speaking rubbish? Think about it and decide whether you're on God's side or Chris's side - there is no middle ground when it comes to opposing God!
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 10:43pm On May 02, 2010
^^^ "Joagbaje playing with me?" shocked shocked shocked

asking myself - Why do these guys find it so easy to lie? huh Totally seared consciences, most likely. Plus of course, they are sinless even when they sin or worst case, God is there having nothing to do but forgive them (name and claim 101, as aletheia called it). Me, I wasn't playing with you. What you do not realise is that I have precedence. Jesus called some hypocrites, liars, theives! Elijah stood against the prophets of Baal because they stood AGAINST God. They on their part, were against him because he stood against THEM.

Whist my inclination is for peace with all men, such as you make me want to puke with your double-talk and smooth ways. Like the Lord, Elijah and numerous others like Martin Luther, I will stand against anyone who stands against God for sake of his own greed.

Aletheia is right putting that to you because your defence is FOR YOU rather than for God! ole! tongue
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 9:51pm On May 02, 2010
^^^  That is the truth not that Moses is learning from you and Liardon the theory and practise of "lying" and "homosexuality".

When the "time is full" and ALL are gathered, "perfection will be"!

@Aletheia:

Please translate into Yoruba for him. His diction seems restricted to erROR
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 9:28pm On May 02, 2010
You are pitiful! You still come back to this "artist" issue? Yeah, but is that not your "face"? Is it not true that the bucks roll in from "church" but all of you need something to justify that so its not obvious. Leave tithes and "gifts" out of your ministries and lets see if you can feed yourself anymore. Kunle already showed you as what you are!

Ol'boy, just google "christ embassy" and see the exposes available on your scams.

QUOTE
Men of God are working. Praying and fasting, building lives
UNQUOTE

Yes, WE are. But 2nd Peter goes to the point in exposing what YOU are doing -" exploiting with stories (ROR) they have made up"
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 8:34pm On May 02, 2010
EDITED

Mr Master Agbaje (seeing as you're obviously a delinquent):

I believe and accepted a simple Gospel: Jesus is Lord. Mine and all. I trust Him implicitly and explicitly.

You are the theologist, reading greek, latin etc all with the sole desire to convince people to open their wallets. That is the only fruit anyone KNOWS that you bring forth - cash for your pockets whether the suppliers are damned or not. Crooks like you speak of "understanding the Bible" as though it carries a code. Well, it DOES NOT and God Himself ministers it to us!

By the way, when Jesus beat money-changers out of the temple, I guess He too was just showing fruit according to Matt 7:18 as I am showing now, right? Ode eleyinrira atole OLEtongue
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 8:25pm On May 02, 2010
^^^ Auntie Mabell:

There are free copies of the Holy Bible all over the Internet. Which would you prefer? God's Word or a human's interpretation of it?

"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false prophets among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them - bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping" 2 Pet 2:1 - 3

"They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. they are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.: 2 Pet 2:13

"These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty boastful words;, and by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error" 2 Pet 2:17

Auntie M:

See how prophetic the Bible is - it tells us of those who entice with sweet words, bringing disrepute to God's Word, changing God's reward from its heavenly place to a earthly one, carousing in daylight (enjoyment gospel), boastful and insincere and causing problems for innocents who are not well grounded in God's Word. How can they do this? One obvious way is by providing alternatives to God's Word! 90 percent truth and 10% error gradually becoming 50/50 then 30/70.
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by nuclearboy(m): 7:58pm On May 02, 2010
Joagbaje:
I thought you went to school. A devotional does not replace the bible but rather is an aide that helps you study bible in a disciplined manner .
Yep, went to school - not 419 schooling though, which is why I have a job, a career, a business which produces something and adds to the economy. Where is the benefit of your CEC 419 "so called theology" studies (obviously all you have) - when you have to resort to lying, begging, cajoling people to bring the fruits of their own labor (including theft and fraud) so you can have a life. Dude, don't let me start on you and yaps oyaks and your study of what happened to Moses and whether he died or not. shocked Pastor wey no know Bible or God! shocked

Joagbaje:
That's why millions of people world over .It is the most circulated devotional in the world. It is the most translated book world over after the holy bible.
Yeah; and there are BILLIONS of unbelievers all over the world too - are they right because they have large numbers?  huh Dude, wake up. I keep telling you this is not a pulpit where you can whip up excitement amongst gullible people and get no response.

Would respond to your previous post but I know Aletheia will return with the Bible, burying you in your folly and rot.  cheesy tongue
Christianity EtcRe: Touch Not My Anointed? Really? by nuclearboy(op): 2:48pm On May 02, 2010
^^^ I hope you're joking! You never heard of the Guyana Tragedy? Please google it and see what level of delusion some people get to. You could also do a search on David Koresh who apparently ended up thinking he was the promised "Holy Spirit" and that the machineguns he stockpiled were the "Word of God" sad

My own is just that whist the MOGs out there may say they have no "mirrors", our NL "mogs" should repent since they have DEFINITELY interacted with people who know the truth and their consciences are pricking them.
Christianity EtcRe: Touch Not My Anointed? Really? by nuclearboy(op): 6:23pm On May 01, 2010
No wahala wink Stay blessed smiley

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