₦airaland Forum

Byko899:
london used cheap android phones for sale( whole sale and retail) in EMEKA Offor plaza. we have over 200 phones and more to come , very cheap android phones that can do whatsapp, the prices ranges from 7k up,discount depending on the quantity you want.


you can start a phone business with as little as 100k, yes, we have some cool Lenovo and Coolpad product you can buy from 7k up, you can market it to some of this secondary school students that want a Facebook and whatsaap phone by all means ,7k phone can be sold for 10k and 10k can be sold for 13k , if you develop a trust with us , we can give you more phones than you paid for. just take your bag with your phones walk around your village,your community, secondary school and start marketing instead of staying idle , contact me on zero eight zero six seven eight seven seven two two seven ,am on whatsap and Facebook ,I stay at Emeka offr plaza Onitsha

uselessIDIOT:
Is there any possible cure? I have been treating this bump on my chin for years now, its just been there. I know i used shaving sticks in the past but I've stopped it a long time ago but the bumps refused to leave me

Bollinger:
My best advice for you is to abandon ship as soon as possible.

Bollinger:
Then nigeria will continue on this path of self destruction.

Bollinger:
It is very simple. Revolution. Do what Ghana did under Jerry Rawlings and wipe the slate clean. If not the cycle will continue forever. Believe it or not, Ghana is better of for it today. The alternative is war and no one want's that. Why would you want revolution? Because a child born in Nigeria today will know nothing else but corruption by the time he/she is a teen. That cycle needs to be broken. If not, the child will grow up into what we see as the leadership in Nigeria today.

Bollinger:
All you've given is a list of corrupt managers. Not leaders. I can't believe you suggested Amaechi to lead a country like Nigeria. The only person on the list that is even worth considering is Osibanjo but we all know that OBJ has ruined it for all Yoruba people to lead the country ever again. And it is not about APC or PDP. PDP was in power for 16 years and they performed worse than what we are seeing now. Funny thing is, a lot of the people in PDP then are in APC now so what's the point? You need to come to terms with the fact the corruption levels in Nigeria is not normal and the country can never move forward until something is done about it.

youngberry001:
Go put am for yankari game researve kano


Den like dis kind animal

Nodogragra4me:
1. "is a proof for unbelievers that you are a believer......Jesus said , these signs shall but you believe that an epistle to Corinthians is more sacred than the very words of Jesus....study the mark, it is probably in red in your bible."

I copied your words exactly. There you said that Mark is more sacred than letter of St Paul to Corinthians. Bro! As far as Christianity is concern, words of God are all sacred. Whether it's Mark or Paul, Christians considers all of them equally sacred because they're words of God not that of Paul or Mark.


What you ought have seen if you had read it more carefully and slowly is ........but you believe that an epistle .....letter.......to the Corinthians.....citizens of the city of Corinth .....is more sacred than the very words of Jesus ..........you quoted copiously from the epistle to the church at Corinth to buttress your submission that tongue is for a prove to the unbeliever.........Nobody is arguing whether the entire scripture is sacred .....that is an established fact....what is the issue is this: Jesus said , these signs shall follow them that believe .....and Mark 16:17 listed the signs and one of them is speak in new tongues.

Concerning Mark 16:17. "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;" -KJV. meaning those that believe will be able to perform miracles: casting out devils; speaking in new tongues. Jesus never said that speaking in new tongue as you said ("Jesus said it is the recognized ID CARD of a believer. Mark 16:17"wink will be the ID CARD of a believers. Stop misinterpreting the Bible. The Bible said THESE SIGNS (it's a plural, meaning there are other signs). Jesus didn't said only speaking in tongues in Mark 16:17, shall follow those that believe. There are other miraculous signs He mentioned there. And the Bible didn't said that a believer MUST possess all the miraculous signs. So I don't see the reason why you should single it out as the only criteria for knowing a believer, if not to justify your personal ideology.



If you care to go back to where my contribution where you got your first paragraph from you will clearly noticed a word called itemized ......in relation to my statement on Mark 16:17..... I stated that he itemized the signs and one of them is new tongue....you can go back .......if you continue to 18 you will find more of them ............Jesus Christ never said or gave any impression that some of them shall follow them ......He said ......these signs , plural, shall follow them not some of these signs......if these signs shall follow them it reasons to says that is it the identity .....ID card....of the believer.........if you call yourself a believer and I happened to meet you somewhere, I don't know you and you don't know me , Jesus is saying the ways to identity the person is ....everybody is an unbeliever to a stranger until he proves otherwise and the way to prove otherwise is ....Mark 16:17-18......19-Mark 16:17..... when you see a believer , you have met a miracle worker , you have met a man who communicate in the language of heaven ....new tongue ....you have met a man who when he is poisoned, remains unhurt.......it couldn't have escape my attention that there were other signs stated in that Mark.

Ask yourself why Jesus made that statement in Mark 16:17. I believe you know that all the books in the Bible are inter-linked, that's why I used two instances in Gospel of St. John ( 1:43-51; 4:48 ) where same Jesus that made statement in Mark 16:17 to proof to you that signs and wonders are gifts given to believers for unbelievers which St. Paul also attested in 1Corinthians 14:22. Also Acts 2:1-42, esp. 4-13 & 40-42 will bears us witness.
Until you use bible instances to proof your point in Mark 16:17 that Jesus said speaking in tongues is the only ID CARD for unbelievers, I will still maintain my status quo.



It would be dubious for you to anchor you arguement on me proving that it is the only sign........our subject matter or the take off point of our discussion was why all the disciples spoke in tongue and not your Pope who you guys always claims is of the order of Peter.....so I narrowed my submission to new tongue....lit is not that I didn't know that there are listed there....in reasearch you have limitation......and in this discourse , we have limitation and it is new tongue.

2. Let me quote your exact words: "Miracle and tongue is not a special gift to Mbaka and Ede and Munso......everyone of us has the gift if we were baptized in water and not sprinkled water on and have the baptism of the Holy Ghost."
I agreed with you that all Christians have equal access to the gift of Holy Spirit. But was these men you mentioned wasn't baptised at infant? How come they received the gifts which according to you can only be recieved at adult baptism? (let me not go further on this infant baptizim here because you haven't responded to my yesterday's mention on it).



You can't speak for people you know from afar......unless you were there when they were sprinkled with water you can never tell when they became Catholics....it is possible they were already matured boys when they found themselves in the Catholic environment. They could have started as members of some religious sect helping their fathers in their shrine when they were taken to be Catholics.....my dad was nominated and handed over to the missions by his dad who worshipped his ancestor until he left this world ........he was already a young man and not an infant. But more importantly is the fact that it is not water baptism that Jesus said was to fulfil all rightouesnes that confers the Holy Spirit but the second baptism of the Holy Spirit that the apostles received on Pentecost day evidenced by their speaking in new tongues.

Bro! Catholic church is not against speaking in new tongues. Speaking in tongues is not the only criteria to know believers neither is it an ID card to make heaven. Bible didn't tell us that.


Yes the Bible didn't expressly state that it is the criteria to make heaven but it a pointer to anyone that you have the spirit of God in you. For Jesus said he will send you a comforter, who will dwell inside your spirit and not in so called sacraments...if you have the identity of e believer you journey destination should be obvious ....only believers are entitled to heaven......the spirit of God doesn't reside in any other place but in man and that is why the Bible says your body is the temple of the Lord and not images and golden colored irons and cups.

I must apologise for responding late, just coming back from work.
Hope your day was great!


No need apologizing for we must earn our bread.


Extremely good ....trust yours wasn't any different.


Proudly a Winner.

Nodogragra4me:
Your understanding of the Bible is very terrible. Firstly, I never mentioned that book of Corinthians is not sacred or important; I only ask you if between the words of our Lord and Paul which is more weighty. Jesus said in Mark, personally, that these signs shall follow them that believe and he itemized the signs that will proof to anyone that you are a believer in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Now, in the Corinth you have cited, Paul made it clear through his statement that the church at Corinth did ALL speak in tongue when he said, thank God, I do speak in tongue more than you all.....in other words, they do speak in tongue for him to say he speaks more than them all.


The issue at Corinth was the abuse of tongue. That was while the epistle was necessary. To let them know that the gift was not to be use as a kind of competition within the church and amongst themselves. .and to explain to those young Christian that tongue is not end in itself but a means ......you are speaking the language of heaven but you must understand and be able to interpret it so others know what you are doing ..........every epistle is written to address a wrong or abuse amongst the new convert. ......every believer must have the gift of tongue because every believer must have the baptism of the Holy Spirit which is evidenced or proofed by speaking in tongue........the day of Pentecost is a must for every believer........Peter said, Repent and be baptized so that ye receives the gift of the Holy Spirit........that is the package of being baptized.

Matt 28:19 Jesus, himself said, go into all nations TEACHING THEM ......a baby can't be taught ..........then baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit.


The gospel of John 4 you quoted has nothing to do with our discussion........our subject matter is in infant baptism.....a baby cannot recognize miracle and therefore can't be convinced. .....your identity card as a be,bier in the name of Jesus as prescribed by no less a person but Jesus in Mark is and remains: these signs shall follow them that believe in my name........it is the only proof to anyone that you are a Christian and not a followers of the narrowness of the mind of your rev Fr.......first to do e no dey pain

All the apostles including Paul you have quoted spake in tongues.....why. Jesus said it is the recognized ID CARD of a believer. Mark 16:17

Every believer is a miracle worker. Not just pastors or your church Catholic Church, mbaka and ebube munso........we are co labourers with God and God does nothing but miracles.....the ministry of Jesus from birth to death is all miracle......again it is stated by Jesus Christ in Mark 16:17

Miracle and tongue is not a special gift to Mbaka and Ede and Munso......everyone of us has the gift if we were baptized in water and not sprinkled water on and have the baptism of the Holy Ghost.


John 1:12...... as many as receive him......believe him to them he gave the power to become the sons ....not babies of god nor children but sons of God .....only sons can do miracles.......Gal 4:1 .....KJV .....THAT THE HEIR ,AS LONG AS HE IS A CHILD DIFFERS NOTHING FROM A SLAVE THOUGH HE BE THE LORD OF ALL

Proudly Winners

Nodogragra4me:
Bro, you can keep any amount you like in the name of a child and then wait for him too come of age to start making the use stored money. .......when you are baptized, you receive a gift of the Holy Spirit which you are expected to put to use. ....a child can't operate the gift of the Holy Spirit.


The Bible says , unless a man be born of water and the spirit ....the key word is man not baby ...no baby will miss returning to their maker because of baptism ....wherever Abraham, Moses , Elijah, etc went to is not hell ......paradise . .......authority is for the believer Nd the believer is not a baby but a man of reason .......the whole world is waiting for the manifestation of the sons not baby.........John never baptized an infant, the apostles never did, Jesus , our ultimate guide and example never did.

Every baptized,first received Jesus, received the gospel, personally based on conviction .......the faith of parents covers a child until he or she comes of age .....Jesus fate was tied to that of his parents until he came of age and was able to hold his own....,they took him in all his weak state from one hideout to another......they could have baptized him as infant to prepare him for return since his life was at a stake.


The key word in peters message is , repent and be baptized that he receive the gift of, the Holy Spirit .....you can repent on somebody's behalf if you can't eat and he get satisfied....he has to do his repenting for himself.


As quickly as a child is able to reason and comprehend, he can go for baptism. ....not a baby ....it is not a dormant activity, it is action packed because it announces you to your world and your ministry like that of Jesus is established.

Nodogragra4me:
It is a proof for unbelievers that you are a believer......Jesus said , these signs shall but you believe that an epistle to Corinthians is more sacred than the very words of Jesus....study the mark, it is probably in red in your bible.

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
This is a terrible work, please get an architect to do something better for you. Haba!

Nodogragra4me:
Jesus said in Mark 16:17...,.,. This signs shall follow them that believe .....if you believe that will be your identity ......he didn't not say it through the apostle or in an espitle to any city but he said it himself that these signs shall follow them that believe .....you know pass Jesus or what ......he said these signs ....



If the signs are not following you it is because you don't believe .....Jesus said so not me ....read am abeg ...na Mark 16:17



He said children and not babies should come and not be carried to him abi that is not what is written in your bible.

Nodogragra4me:
The Bible says , unless a MAN be born not unless a baby is born again in water and not in basin ....every grown person who can reason for themselves is a man whether man or woman.

Nodogragra4me:
Bread Mark 16:17.... the identity of every believer is ....these signs shall follow them that believe or that one no dey your bible ......all your arguement against speaking in tongue na in flesh you can't support your arguement with the scripture ....Jesus no speak in tongue because him na the tongue and him say na when him don go back na the Pentecost and therefore New Testament go start ....until him throwaway him blood , he was only fulfilling prophecy so technically the New Testament start from the acts of the apostle ........you wey no dey worship pastor no sabi anything .... .IN MY NAME , THEY SHALL SPEAK IN NEW TONGUE. Every time you guys rush to name pastors....una no go grow up and see that men are reading and chewing the word and questioning the doctrines of your church ...when it suit you , you say we should worship Jesus when it doesn't you find a new support .....Jesus Christ is our guide and he was baptized at what age?




All the scripture wey you gather no tell you say make you carry small poking go do baptism for am......baptism na the beginning Kpa kpa of your Christian journey...you need to have personal conviction to do am ....no be ritual or religion ...Jesus did it at the age of thirsty and immediately start him ministry......or Peter know pass Jesus.


Repent and be baptized...wet in the liking know ...rise and be baptized.....no for picking wey dey suck Brest ......him no fit rise not to talk of near river for baptizing.....dem not dey carry person for body do am or he get anybody dem carry for body as smally go baptized for your version of the Bible

Nodogragra4me:
But why dem no dey practice am ......Peter spoke in tongue but your pope no sabi tongue unless his mother tongue ,why?
Why una dey conduct infant baptism even when Jesus baptized at old and mature age?

JideAmuGiaka:
Tell me ten doctrines of Catholic church with bible reference.

oladoja1:
hmm Bible verse of where Jesus talked about Catholic Church

wizzywisdom:
The Bible say, "And they shall become ONE" isn't this a kind of force?

darioNaharis:
Let someone just tell me who Cain married and "the people" God said He was going to protect Cain from

nc201016:
it's a lie... you know

nc201016:
spritual force abi physical force?