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Odeku:
Nutter no worry, nothing will happen to him, i have enough security operative to protect him day and night. BigB1 contact me and I will get you the details of my arrival we go eat pepper soup and palm wine

Odeku, Odeku (a.k.a Black thing good oh/ KK 4 EVA),

When you say you have enough security operatives to ‘protect’ him day and night, do you mean the same ‘protection’ Mandela received? I’m just asking.

Big B1,

You still dey here? Begin run oh. Dem no dey serve peppersoup and palm wine for guardroom!

@Justkunmi,

That's a good idea. I also believe the turnout will be quite large.

_{*I think we should also make arrangements to send the poster above you (jammin) to Marilyn Manson for some, erm, 'treatment'*.}


Rock On!

Bia Nilla,

Define 'relationship' 

Meanwhile, A ba die ufan mi?

Hmm, Big B1, after all you've said about King Kong, are you sure you want to go with Odeku to Abuja where King Kong lives? OK. Na find we go begin dey find you be dat.

Best Nairaland User: Chxta.

Worst Nairaland User: Chxta!

Me too, I wonda!!!

Yes, also, KK and Co.

@Chxta,

Read it again and again before replying. Your sentence implied an unwillingness by Idi Amin to discuss a break up of Uganda.

Ok. Let’s deconstruct my sentence. My exact words were:

“It came up (several times) but was deliberately squashed with a ferocity only common in nigeria (and perhaps Uganda during the time of Idi Amin).”

It is clear from the above that my reference was to the issue of ‘ferocity’. I stated that this ferocity was common only in nigeria, and immediately adjusted that statement to make provision for the occurrence of a similar level of ferocity (in general terms) in Uganda (hence the text in brackets). My statement does not address the issue of secession in Uganda. That was not the issue I was addressing. Nilla’s statement on the removal of secession as a topic for discussion in the Constitutional Conference in nigeria [/b]was: “I don't know why the subject was never brought up”. It is to this that I responded.

I can see how one may arrive at the conclusion you did. I however hope my explanation sufficiently clears this up for you.

I was in the East during one of the MASSOB stay at home 'directives' (doesn't that word sound a tard dictatoral?). And I can assure you that most people stayed home not because they supported MASSOB, but because they were afraid for their lives and property. Not exactly a very nice way to win popular support.

Chxta, we have debated this point before. My reply to you then was that even if I concede to you that the Igbo in the East were afraid of MASSOB, what about Igbos in Kaduna, Lagos, Jos, Kano, et cetera? They too observed the strike. [b]Were they also afraid of MASSOB? You avoided giving an answer for understandable reasons. You were as wrong then as you are now. If you can explain this phenomenon, do so. Else, let us agree to pencil down this point as ‘treated’.

Anambra's degeneration has been going on for a long time. That is the truth. It is such that even Odimegwu (*I spit*) had the nerve to use ABU (Anambra Brought Upwhatever that means) to brag that he would show anti-third termers that he is ABU.

1. My question to you was, and I repeat, ‘When did Anambra begin its severe degeneration?’. That said, it is also important to point out that Anambra’s degeneration prior to the period of severity I highlighted, is in tune with the overall degeneration of nigeria.

2. I shall not address in any kind of detail, your needless injection of Ojukwu’s name. None on this forum or elsewhere has been able to convince me that Ojukwu didn’t do all he could to prevent war – even though his charges (Easterners) were being slaughtered in great numbers all over the nation. If you care to try (again), then be my guest. Historical facts have not changed.

And when was the last 'annual' massacre to use your words.

Those are not my words. My actual words, as typed by me and even quoted by you were: “ . . . it will be a lot better than the almost yearly massacres . . . .” Please refer.

It can't be removed from the history books that we have suffered at the hands of the almajiri AND THEIR SPONSORS, but then again, that is the price a people pay when they are successful and mercantile like we are. Read Jews (whom some wrongly claim we are) for that.

You severely contradict this statement below when you say the almajiri are not encouraged to attack the Igbo. I shall highlight it when I come to it.

Would you say we pull out of Naija because we have had it rough (and still flourished)? Then the African Americans should have pulled out of the US a long time ago.

1. Having it ‘rough’ is miles away from having to deal with artificial obstacles, strategically placed to hold us down because we are Igbo. We do not want special treatment. Why is it surprising that we are slighted because we are treated as servants instead of partners? Or are we not?

2. We have not flourished because of Nigeria’s influence but despite this. Give credit to whom it is due.

3. The AA example does not apply. They were taken to America not as equals but as slaves. The Igbo, from the outset of nigerian independence, were supposed to be equal partners. We are not.

4. Many AA slaves ‘pulled out’ of America. Think Freetown, Sierra Leone.

5. The American Civil war was fought to enforce the prohibition of slavery.

Erm, stealing is being practised on a grand scale in the following states: Edo, Delta, Enugu, Rivers, Adamawa, Zamfara, Abia, Bayelsa, Taraba, in all these states from ward level to state level, all directly answerable to their people, and all under the watchful eyes of their people. Part of the problem with Nigeria as a whole (and it is obviously part of you too, I have that problem from time to time) is impatience. The wheels of justice grind slowly as the former governor of Illinois found out.

1. Stealing is practiced on a grand scale in more States than you have mentioned. But that is beside the point.

2. The governors in Nigeria are only answerable to Aso Rock! That’s the fact. The people have not been empowered. Stop trying to lead us up the garden path!

3. The war ended almost 40 years ago and we are still where we were when we went to war. What lack of patience is it you speak of? Shall we wait another 40 years before speaking up?

4. Doesn’t it strike you as strange that in providing an example of the wheels of justice, you have to turn to an example from the States?  Start from your nigeria. Feel free to start with Tafa Balogun and his 6 months slap on the wrist.

I believe you are talking of the airport at Owerri. Good. That is not an Igbo airport, it is an Imo airport. The Igbo also remain the only group to have delibrately scuttled an existing airport project by the Federal Government on their land. Read Oba.

Was it only those from Imo that donated money to build the airport?  The Igbo are the widest travelled in that country due to their strong business leanings, so it became necessary to get the airport built as it would be of benefit to all Igbo in the region. We successfully got that done yet the government has to this day refused to bequeath Owerri airport international status. Meanwhile, States like Sokoto and Maiduguri have international airports. No surprise there. I just wonder how many people travel out of these airports compared to the volume of international travel that Sam Mbakwe airport would generate.

On Oba, please provide an explanation. I’d like to know how and why the Igbo deliberately scuttled an existing airport project. Do share.

They are not encouraged to attack Igbo. I've lived among them, and like every group of people, there is always the xenophobia that comes when 'aliens' come to live amongst them and flourish.

They are not encouraged to attack the Igbo? C’mon now. When they attend Friday prayers and are sent out, who are they told to attack? Please, also refer to the thread where I presented quotes from the Northern House of Assembly showing the concoction of all manner of despicable measures to destroy the Igbo. These have continued to this day. Let’s not go down this all too familiar road. These issues are well documented.

*Erm, this is the contradiction I referred to above. You said earlier that the Igbo have suffered at the hands of the almajiri and their sponsors. Now you say they are not encouraged to attack the Igbo*

Being in the UK you must have heard of the BNP. I'd suggest that you sleep with an eye open, because at the end of the day your skin my dear friend distinguishes you from other British. One day the same thing you point out that the almajiri did to nd'Igbo would visit you in the UK. The examples are already there in France and the rest of the continent.

1. Bia, na swear you dey swear for me abi wetin?

2. The thing is, if you live here long enough, you are going to experience all kinds of racism. When you are a student, and when you start working. In the nightclub, and in church. It all comes with the territory. But, British or not, I have at no time ever believed (even for a second) that I belong here. I do not. There is plenty of ‘excitement’ that comes with living in the UK as a young, black male. Everybody hates me. But, in nigeria, because I am Igbo, everybody hates me too. So, what is your point?

India and the Asian tigers fluorished because their neighbours were friendly and cooperative. We (nd'Igbo) don't have that luxury. Do not be deceived. Let us face facts, when that division you are clamouring for comes, the first to turn against us would be our South-South brothers.

Why would they turn against us? Your presumption would be correct if we were to force them into a union with us. That has never been the intention. As you know force to be a poor substitute for genuine collaboration, why does it surprise you that the Igbo have turned against nigeria as you expect the South-South to turn against the Igbo if coerced into a union? We were forced to remain in the union that is Nigeria! Refer to the civil war. Ah, ah!

We won't have space to trade because we'll be too busy covering our flanks. Nilla's comment here lends credence to this. For avoidance of doubt, she said: At least the Igbo's are recognized, what about other minor tribes.

1. Were we not trading all through the years of the civil war while, at the same time, ‘covering our flanks’? To add to that, the greatest technological advances experienced in that country occurred during the war, on Biafran soil.

2. Your comments do not have direct bearing to the situation as we know it. It is not the nature of the Igbo to force any into a union. That has always been nigeria’s strong suit.

The problem I usually have with the split most Igbo's want is,  They want to split and include the niger delta with them. But how do we know that split is also the best thing for the Niger delta.That should give you a clue as to the unconscious lack of regard they have for us.

Again, this lacks direct bearing.

But Nzeribe still holds sway in Oguta. Until we can truly remove those scum (and yes, that includes Ojukwu) we are not ready to seriously hold our own.

Firstly, bring yourself to acknowledge that the Summit of all Igbo showed singularity of purpose in dealing with the sabos in our midst.

Secondly, Nzeribe is a nigerian senator. The only reason why he represents Oguta is because he rigged the election. This fact is known by INEC, a government apparatus. Nothing was done. Let us be clear on that. He is not a genuine Igbo representative – far from it. Surely you know that.

In a lot of discussions throughout history, there have been no go areas. I strongly believe that in any discussion concerning Nigeria's future, seccession by any component part should be a no go area. We have gone down that route before, and we saw the consequences. The consequences now would even be more hellish.

Don’t be taken in by this no-go-area idiocy. It is used to pull the wool over the eyes of those who should know better. You are cleverer than that. I shall address this constitutional foolishness in greater detail below.

Let's assume that you are right, and that Naija's case is more complex than that of Ghana (I concede Kenya because the Swahili are too dominant there), then we roll the globe and look for a case that is more complex than Naija. India and Indonesia. So. . . ?

1. Ghana’s case doesn’t even come close to nigeria’s in terms of the complexity that diversity brings. There is no assumption to it. Let’s not bicker on this most obvious of matters.

2. India and Indonesia do not help your argument in the slightest. There is great diversity of tongue in these countries but they also have a unifying factor aside from the haphazardly demarcated boundaries that is also nigeria’s lot. An instance of this is religion, an element which we know to be a major factor in group cohesion. Indonesia is almost 90% Muslim while India is almost 85% Hindu. Despite this, there are still incidents of sectarian violence and insurgencies in various parts of these countries. Who told you any different? Let's examine the facts relating to these countries:

INDIA

*In 1984 Indira Ghandi was assassinated by her Sikh bodyguards because of perceived injustice towards the Sikh in India.

*A recent (August, 2006) BBC country profile of India states in part:

“Communal, caste and regional tensions continue to haunt Indian politics, sometimes threatening its long-standing democratic and secular ethos.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/country_profiles/1154019.stm

INDONESIA

* In 1999, Indonesia allowed a referendum to determine if its East Timorese citizens wanted to leave the union. The East Timorese voted ‘YES’. East Timor is now an independent nation.

*Indonesia now observes the implementation of regional autonomy laws in certain parts.

*Parallels can be drawn between what Indonesia endured before being swept along by the tide of change, and the stage of denial that Nigeria currently uses as shelter. Another BBC report states that:

“Militia loyal to Indonesia, apparently assisted by the military, tried in vain to use terror to discourage a vote for independence.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/country_profiles/1508119.stm


So you see, Chxta, no right-thinking individual should be proposing the protection of ‘no-go-areas’ in a country’s constitution. Do stop being delusional in your estimation of the merits of such twaddle. A country’s constitution after all, is a document that should draw legitimacy from its citizens approval and not the other way round.

In sum, using your provided country examples, we see that this notion of constitutional no-go-areas is complete poppycock. It has never worked; it will never work. No country with genuine intentions towards promoting a strong sense of nationalism would come up with something so draconian, so obviously unworkable, and so imbecilic in every way.

Next!

That’s my 'catchphrase'  ! Go get yours! NEXT!

My brother, don't mind all these people. They are always trying to fool us.

Ugwumba:
unu lemazie bro tosh (oforo ntakiri ma kpo ya brocos)

Haven't heard that in a long time. Hilarious!

Sometime in the early 1990s, when IBB held sway, a military aircraft crashed. A friend’s father was killed in that crash. Then, like now, I smell a rat.

I don’t know if it’s just me but I find it extremely difficult to believe that a military plane would have taken off, leaving the COAS, without his express permission. Is it not naija again? I believe Mr Chief of Army Staff is just trying to sensationalise events.

*May their souls rest in peace and may their loved ones find strength*

When I read the title of this thread, I immediately knew it must have been started by Odeku. But, why the focus on only Atiku? He has accused King Kong of wrongdoing and he is in a position to know this for a fact. Why is this not also under Odeku’s scrutiny? Anyway, I established long ago that for Odeku, KK can do no wrong.

LOL!

Ok, I think it's now 2:1 to Toshman. Ugwumba, ngwa, fire!

@Man D Fans

I don’t believe I can take another bite of your painful humiliation. You guys are such sore losers. Just listen to yourselves now and compare with what you were all saying before the match. There is so much talk of the win being lucky but, if we are honest, Arsenal had more clear scoring chances than Man D. We even missed a penalty! I think you guys should be grateful you got off with such a slight margin.

@Hucarson,

Erm, I believe Gunner Queens (Mukina and Priscila) are still waiting for your naked dance. You not a man of your words or what?

dayokanu:
Man Utd has a penchant for spoiling other clubs runs: They spoilt Arsenals 49 games unbeaten run, Spoilt Chelsea's Unbeaten run and now they have done it again!! Spoilt Arsenal's Unwinning run   

That was a good one, my man.


Gunners Together, Gunners Forever!

Ok then. No worries.

Kolo, Eboue,
watcha gonna do?
watcha gonna to do, when they come for you?

Really? 300 Euros? Good for you, mate. Guess the drinks are on you then.

Chxta:
I am the first to admit that. And so would you were Arsenal at the receiving end of so obvious an injustice. . .

Injustice? Erm, come again?

mrmayor:
I nearly got my a$$ kick in a dublin pub today, the young King Fabregas Rules. Kanu Junior AKA Adebyor made my day.

Wenger Rules.

I went to a pub full of diehard fans. It was almost like being in the terraces with the way those people were swearing. My goodness! 

Chxta:
Speaking of la vecchia signora, further proof that the idiots just wanted us down: they've finally agreed to give us a hearing. After the season has started.

You are just bitter 

Priscila:
@Nutter
what did I tell you. all rebels have surrendered and you will not see malicous comments on arsenal again

Let them run and hide.


"There he runs, sprinting down the middle
happily skinning, everyone he meets
Adebayor is a Gunner, spends a bit of time on the ground
but then he's up and scoring, for seven million pounds"

Chxta:
Well and truly cleaned. Er, point of correction, he isn't a ManU fan. He's a Juventino.Coming from you, that's a tard unfair. . .

The second bit of my post was for the Man D fans. How can I forget that you are a Juventino? Whenever a struggling team in a lower division is mentioned, I first think 'Juve' and later, 'Chxta'!

Thanks for dusting before doffing. Do you think Man D fans should now perform the time-honoured act of hara-kiri? I do.

Brownsuga:
You have a point there about the fact that MANY Muslims are over-sensitive to critic. I myself have problems with this and had to face the consequences. I think the fact that MEN are in the forefront of Islam plays a big role.

MEN are also in the forefront of Christianity.

Build a bonfire, build a bonfire,
Put Hucarson on top,
Stick Bolaoni in the middle,
Make room for[b] Jackal [/b] on the bottom,
And burn their Man D behinds.
Burn I tell you! Burn their Man D behinds!

Let's all laugh at Man D,
Ha ha ha ha!

Let's all laugh at Hucarson,
Ha ha ha ha!

Let's all laugh at Jackal,
Ha ha ha ha!

Let's all laugh at Nuggard,
Ha ha ha ha!

Let's all laugh at[b] Justkunmi[/b],
Ha ha ha ha!

Let's all laugh at Bolaoni,
Ha ha ha ha!

Let's all laugh at crazy kid,
Ha ha ha ha!

Let's all laugh at asanga,
Ha ha ha ha!

Let's all laugh at Chxta,
Ha ha ha ha!

Chxta,

Did you remember to dust your hat off properly before doffing?


Bow before us Man D fans! Bow!

It’s a sad day in Man-D-Land. Poverty, unemployment, crime, hunger, and now, DEFEAT!

Run and hide, Man D fans, your GUNNER LORDS are headhunting!

Wey dem? Wey dem?

Make I reach house first. Una don die!


GOOO GUUUNNEERRRSSS!!

Return to sender.

Victory beckons. I'm out!

toshmann:
e-mailu m bu falkonetti2003@yahoo.com

@all
nani 2fine4tosh ka'm n'enye e-mailu a. onye ozo esendi kwala m mailu obula. unu anula?

Nna, chairman, gini bu iwe gi?

You shall find no shelter from my wrath when the game is over, Chxta. None!

Interestingly enough, <They> will soon begin burning churches in the north again over the Pope's statements. – Kenshin

It is so clear now that one of the surest way to commit siucide is to go out and say anthing about islam. God is LOVE and not HATE – Charlo

There are news reports on the slaying of a Catholic nun in Somalia. The poor woman who chose to give up all life’s comforts to serve in a war-torn land was shot three times in the back because of what the Pope said. What does this prove?