₦airaland Forum

bolaoni:
Therez nuthin these noisemakers won't say to get attention.

It just about 24 hours away.

We shall see who the real master is.

@Bolaoni,

You are sounding worried oh. I'm sure I'm not the only one that can sense your anxiety.

_{[s]Erm, I don't think your current dry fast will change the situation. You might as well eat all your meals before the game. Methinks you will have a problem with appetite thereafter[/s].}

madlawyer1:
Jesus, Nutter, you and Chxta are the same thing!

Jesus, Nutter and Chxta are the same thing? Ok. Thank you. I think. 

_{[s]I know that's not what your sentence meant but it's funnier the way I said it - at least I believe it is[/s]} 

@berserker,

Does 'sergent plus' have any songs online? If they do, please provide a link. I've never heard a nigerian rock band.

*Oh yeah, welcome to NL.

Yeah, that about sums it up. Still waiting for word from Tosh.

@Mgbo na izoneb, nno nu!

@Mariory,

One of the articles whose link I posted provides the example of (US) Senator Frist who inherited a company from his late father before he became Senator. The process he followed, as stipulated by US law, depicts the rigour with which matters concerning Blind Trust are effected. Please read it again.

You highlight number 2 but ignore number 1? On the question of legality, we cannot use the issue of Blind Trust in our judgement of KK’s conduct. Like I said before, there is no 'Blind Trusts Miscellaneous Regulations Law' in the Nigerian Constitution. None. We cannot judge him based on US law. It doesn’t transfer in this instance. KK took an oath to uphold the Nigerian Constitution. It is therefore on the basis of that document that we should draw our conclusions. Following from this, in our judgement of conduct, we can only turn to Code of Conduct stipulations. KK’s actions are a breach of this Code. Or are they not? See Sections 1, 6 (1), 7 (b), 8, 9, 11 (1), 11(2), 11(3) and 13. These tell me that what he did/is doing was/is illegal.

*I hope you are aware that Atiku was offered 100 million shares in Transcorp when the coy was being formed. He declined because of the obvious conflict of interest.

*I hope you are also aware that Gov Obi of Anambra State gave up his Chairmanship of a bank upon assumption of elected office.

What remains unanswered is why KK, through his media spokesperson, Mrs Oluremi Oyo, denied ownership of the shares. Why is he now supposedly divesting? These are not the actions of a man confident in the legality of his conduct.

@Afam,

Afam:
@Nutter,

I sometimes wonder why some of us will easily google something, come up with links even without taking time to understand the content and use same to support or oppose a position.

I am happy you were able to point the issue of code of conduct even based on the same link Mariory posted.

Cheers, mate. I was taken aback myself.

Mate,

Thanks again for the heads up. Who woulda 'thunk' it? As I said in my mail, I owe you one. I hereby publicly declare that I shall not harass you for a full day. Ok, I lie. Perhaps 12 hours? I'm too cross to be witty right now so I shouldn't even try. We'll chat soon. I'll also address the issues raised by your last post at my earliest convenience. Ta for that again.

@nilla,

lol Nutter, your crazy



don't worry i'm learning Igbo (Hapu maka biko nu) 

Very impressive. You'd fit right in when the new nations emerge.

I'm from Akwa Ibom

Ah! A ba die? See, I'm taking my own advice. Gearing up for the split  _{We need to teach Chxta some Efik, Ibibio and Anang so he won't be left behind by the sea of change. You know he's our brother. We have to look out for him.}


@Chxta,

Nna biko e wena iwe. Apology accepted.

Cheers, mate!

I’d love to get down and dirty with your last post but my boys have been calling. It's Friday night. Got to go listen me some soft jazz followed by loud music of an eclectic nature. Will be back on here in some hours if I'm not tired and/or sleepy. If I am either (or both), we resume 'hostilities' tomorrow. K’odi nwanne.

I believe due process was followed before Juve was sanctioned. Not so? As they say, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. You have now been sentenced to what will be 4 years is Serie B. You lot should 'man up' and face the music. Don't worry, 4 years will pass by in a flash 

@nilla,

You asked me 'what was happening' and I replied 'nothing' or 'all is well'.

What part of the Niger Delta are you from? You really should learn more Igbo. We will be trading with you lot after nigeria's split. This is the time to build bonds across nigeria's carcass.

kitaun:
@Nutter

Could you help me remind them that they emerged last in their group, UEFA spot sef them no get *_{in a group of weaklings like benfica and lille*}

@Kitaun,

Don't mind them. Yet they have the gall to complain about our achievement. Even though it fell below Gunner standards, it was still a far better performance than Man D. Just laugh at them in French. I think the wound is still very fresh. 

@nilla,

At least the Igbo's are recognized, what about other minor tribes.

This is why I have been writing about giving everyone a voice. All groups need to be heard. Nothing else will work if this is not done.

The problem I usually have with the split most Igbo's want is,  They want to split and include the niger delta with them.

This is not the case. The Igbo want an Igbo Nation. For any kind of collaboration in this regard, all parties will have to enter freely and willingly.

But how do we know that split is also the best thing for the Niger delta.

Is the current arrangement helping the Niger Delta? You guys were not even allowed to have 25% of what you have been running the country on while your rivers are polluted and your land condemned.

I want to be in Nigeria (One Nigeria) or else i want to be in Niger delta country or worst case scenario my state country

You have my blessing and my support – as long as the greater majority of your people are in favour.

Ogi ni ne me

Onweghi ife ne me. 

@Chxta,

You forgot China (Tibet and Hong Kong), the Soviet Union under Iosef Dzhugashvili, The United Kingdom (under kings from Edward I up until George V), and the United States under Abraham Loncoln. Erm, no one ever talked of dividing Uganda under Idi Amin.

Erm, I highlighted the Ugandan example to depict the intolerance that pervaded Uganda during the time of Amin and nothing else. This level of intolerance was demonstrated during the Constitutional Conference. Read my sentence again.

Some interest groups in both the East and the Niger Delta especially, but also interest groups present in both the North and the West want the country divided. They all feel that they will be better off that way. What they haven't taken into account (IMHO because they are selfish interests) is the effect that such a break up would have.

I cannot speak for the West or the North. Concerning the East, remember the MASSOB stay-at-home directives observed by millions of Igbo all over the country? This is far from an esoteric agenda championed by nameless and faceless individuals. The following is much greater. Calling a lion a mouse will take nothing away from its nature or its purpose.

Better governance like we've had in Anambra State over the last 36 years (*check),

When did Anambra begin its severe degeneration? First under Mbadinuju and later 'under' Uba with support from Aso Rock. Next!

greater security of lives and property like they would have in the west when they start fighting themselves as is usual (*check),

Again, I cannot speak for the West. However, even if that were so in the East, it will be a lot better than the almost yearly massacres that have become sport for the idle in Northern Nigeria. Next!

greater accountability like Odili, Ibori, Igbinedion, Alams and Jonathan are giving now (*check),

Again, all done under the watchful eyes of Aso Rock until they fell (or fall) out of favour. Are they corrupt? Yes. What is EFCC (King Kong's baby) doing in that regard? Nothing! Will it be easier to steal if they had to answer directly to their people? No! Next!

fast-tracked infrastructural development and maintenance(my favourite) like my brothers in Oba did to help with the building of the airport there (*check),

The Igbo remain the only group that donated money amongst themselves to build an airport. Next!

a well-defined middle class like applies in the North where the almajiri roam freely and are encouraged not to go near a school (*check),

They are also encouraged to attack the Igbo. Let's not forget that. Also, Igbo culture is so different from that up North that no comparison can poke its head above the rafters and survive. Next!

freer trade when we would all be fighting ourselves (*check),

You assume this for no other reason than to bolster your argument. The facts however indicate a stifling of the Igbo inventive flair in present day nigeria. Think of the developmental progress ‘Aba Made’ goods would have experienced if this wasn’t the case. Other countries started that way. Refer to India and the Asian Tigers. Next!

imprisonment of King Kong and his band of merry goons since they would all be part and parcel of the various new governments in power and would be busy fuelling the war that would be fought (*check).

The recent Igbo Summit in Owerri where so-called Igbo leaders were denied the right of speech demonstrates what the Igbo can and would do within their own domain. Next!

As for you being a happier bloke, I believe that when Naija starts doing well, not when Naija divides, you nwannem would be a much happier bloke.

At least we agree that nigeria is not doing well. The reason is simply because our ‘leaders’ have refused to allow us discuss these options in the open. As long as that continues, there will be suspicion, fear, animosity and a progressive distancing of minds (and subsequently, inevitably, selves) from the failed project that is nigeria.

Erm neither did they [British] ask the Ghanaians, or the Kenyans, or pretty much every country in Africa. Are you suggesting that all countries on the continent break up along ethnic (read tribal) lines?

The case of nigeria is far more complex than that of Ghana or Kenya. Let’s be realistic here. With over 400 different tongues, we either talk (not by patronage or condescension but genuine engagement) or divide. There is no middle ground.

Next!


*Why haven’t you accepted my apology nwanne? O di kwa mma?

@nilla,

actually I'm from the Niger delta area, so i know all what it is your talking about.

Good. At least on that level our positions can connect.


I don't know where you get that from. I think thats just what you think.

No it isn’t, actually. The nigerian situation proves me right.


I certainly don't despise Igbo people and i'm sure many people don't too.

Feel free to speak for yourself but you will find that the Igbo have been embroiled in a nigerian conspiracy since the 1940s.


But i know its the igbos mostly that are clamoring for the split up of Nigeria.

Even after bearing the brunt of a genocidal war, why do you think this is still the case?


I really think if Nigeria splits up, it would only be a matter of time before it further splits again.

Not if it is split properly the first time round. We need to allow people decide where they want to be. If we don’t, the problem will only linger. The British didn’t ask us, hence the current stalemate.

Bottom line is that in all of Europe, we came second. Whether we brought the cup home or not, we bettered Man D.

_{*still laughing in French*}

Speaking of UEFA, I don't remember Man D being in the finals in Paris. I wonder why. Oh yeah, it's because they weren't there! _{*laughing in French*}

@nilla,

Most Igbo want a break from nigeria because we are the despised of the country. nigeria is run in a manner that doesn't promote the inclusion of all. Our marginalisation is real. The only ones who perhaps have it worse than we do are those in the Niger Delta. Have you been there? Or have you seen the scale of underdevelopment on TV? Those are sights that burn themselves on the retina of the watcher. Therefore, and having become aware of how marginalisation can hinder a people, I am in full support of the emergence of a Niger Delta Republic - by any name and in any form so chosen by its people.

bolaoni,

Is that so? I have put your name down on my list. 

@nilla,

I don't know why the subject was never brought up.

It came up (several times) but was deliberately squashed with a ferocity only common in nigeria (and perhaps Uganda during the time of Idi Amin).

But still,

Who really wants us to divide.
I don't think the north wants that
the west don't want that.
for the minorities it won't make a difference because they will still be a minority, except of course after Nigeria is divided into 2, the south will continue to divide.

The East and our Niger Delta brothers and sisters want out. There will not be the question of them being minorities because they would have a nation of their own. After their hard graft in the nigerian experiment, they deserve it.

Quick question Nutter, what do Nigerians stand to gain from a divided Nigeria?

Off the top of my head? Better governance, greater security of lives and property, more robust economic development, greater accountability, fast-tracked infrastructural development and maintenance, a well-defined middle class, freer trade, imprisonment of King Kong and his band of merry goons, et cetera. *Plus Nutter would be a much happier bloke*

@Ugwumba,

That was a good one. Chei!

@Tosh,

You have to do better o. Dig deeep!

Chxta:
I like that confidence. If you win, I'll duff my hat to you and continue looking for who else can bring Rom$ky down. You are not quite ready yet as the table proclaims. . .

As for me and mine: FORZA JUVE!

Thanks. It's been a while since any paid me that particular courtesy. Please make sure your hat is free of dust (got sensitive nostrils).

hucarson:
It will take hours to get back to London because of the heavy traffic that follows big matches like this so i wont post till late on Sunday.

. . . and the excuses begin

. . . but you won't cause that would be slanderous.

@Chxta,

Steady on, mate. You seem to be in a very stroppy mood today. From the Sports thread to Politics . . . .

To be honest:

1) I put your name right after Nzeribe's because I know of your deep-seated hatred for him.

2) I consider you an inadvertent enemy of nigeria because you asked the South-South to shut up (among other things). Old and fiercely debated news, I know, but I still do not think your recommendation for silence does anything to help a country which is facing its major problems because its citizens have not yet been afforded the opportunity to speak openly and honestly about its problems.

*The idea was not to attack your person as I'm sure you know (in that deep, secret place within). However, my apologies are tendered without reservation. You are, after all, my ‘best buddy’ on Nairaland.

@Chxta and nilla,

If nigeria’s leaders were so sure that the majority of nigerians would choose unity over separation, there would have been no hesitation to introduce it as an item of great importance in the Constitutional debate. There is no surer way of destroying MASSOB and its likes. Instead, valiant efforts were made to ensure that that subject was never broached. What conclusions do you draw from that?

. . . and when we win? What becomes of you then?

Maybe focus should be turned to One-Nigeria stalwarts like King Kong, Atiku, IBB, Uba, Nzeribe, Chxta et al. These fellows are doing a lot more to destroy nigeria than I can ever hope to do.

Chxta:
O brother. . .

I'm not in the mood to start comparing histories with you. Juve is a more distinguished club than the Arsenal has ever been and probably ever will be. As we were saying please. . .

Touched a nerve, did I?

Priscila:
Nutter
word!!!the guys are all here to spread their miseries around after their relegation.
their mercenary tactics wont affect us on sunday

For real, dear. It won't work though. We won't allow it.

@crazykid,

Surely you realise that your cartoon is testament to Gunner supremacy!  You have just shot yourself in the foot  This may mean that Man D will score an own goal come Sunday. 

Arse-nal? Arse-nal? Thank you Mr Not-So-Bola-Ige. This thread however concerns teams that play in the Top Division. The last time I checked, that was not Juve's priviledge. Come back when you guys are promoted. See you in 4 years then. Arrivederci 

Nna, Chairman, na wa for you. You just abandoned me. I was here holding down the forte and protecting your interests despite sustained attacks. No 'Thank You'? O ga e se kwa mu na gi o 

nilla:
Like all your ideas.
Nutter's idea i half like. i will only divide Nigeria if thats the best thing for it (if majority of Nigerians want it that way). even though i don't think thats the case now.

You half like? So you like it a little, then? OK. Thank you. I think.

Priscila:
@Nutter & all gunners
people like Huc will never post after sunday. they have done that since last season after Chelsea and likes of Sunderland felled them

I won’t be surprised. When he flees, I shall seek him out and taunt him on any thread he is found. Any thread (even in the Religion section!). Taunt him continuously and with great pleasure. I can hardly wait.

Gosh! There are quite a few of us. Nice!

Rock On!