₦airaland Forum

Chxta:
I'd have ignored this but for the miseducation it is spreading. Up until this moment we are the only club never to have been relegated from Serie A. This makes us the only club never to have been relegated from Serie A on the field.

FORZA JUVE!!!

Yeah, that's likely due to their match-fixing antics off the field!

@Otokx,

otokx:
please come back chxta, i miss you.

Brother, don’t you think that’s a bit . . . you know . . . ‘fruity’?

@Chxta,

Mate, in any setting, the flight of intelligentsia will always be disquieting. While I will like you to return, I appreciate your concerns and in many ways, I share them too. You do what you think best at this time. If you choose not to return, perhaps we shall run into each other on the cold, wet streets of the UK where I will - without hesitation - extend my hand to shake you warmly – by the throat!

You have my best wishes – really!

babyosisi:
@ nutter obele mmadu a gi na ya n'eme argumenti na thread nke ozo,o di mu nno k'am ma chi sie ya nno ezigbo nti. udi nke a a nakpo dirty slap na okwu bekee.

The boy di very annoying.
Onye delta Igbo si na ya aburo onye Igbo
obele mmadu.

Nne, rapu ya ka o ne kwu eli ka onye fa gbuwa l'isi. M weta ya n’ilo . . . anyi ga e nwe ezibote 'disagriment'. Okwa i wota ife m mean? Ndi b’anyi si na: Agwo emeghi nke o jiri buru agwo, umuaka achiri ya hie nku.

Ndewo.

Ndi nke m,

Just making my rounds and decided to stop by to pay my respects.

Ndewo nu. Jisi nu ike maka ndi afo nsi ju le ju eba. Chukwu Gozie Unu.

You couldn't be more wrong, my brother. Leave me abeg. BTW, why are you defending her sef? Hmmm.

Ok. Back to topic! I apologise profusely to all for this diversion. Tempers were flaring so I wanted to inject some relief of sorts. It won't happen again.

Good looking out, brother. We shall continue to identify them by their fruits.

@Kunu,

I'm very sorry ma’am. Thank you for defining 'needling'. I appreciate it a lot, ma'am.

My view on this issue was expressed many, many pages ago; roughly about the time you were purchasing your naval form. Happy sailing ma’am. Thank you again, ma’am.

Ahoy!

@Kunu,

Your forte is Jobs and Careers so I don’t know what you are doing here. Last I heard you were well on your way to joining the Nigerian Navy. The sooner you leave the better for all concerned.

_{Ok, I’ll stop now else this (back-to-interesting) thread will be derailed.}

Mariory:
So will yours. You have confidently stated sums and reasons you believe OBJ is corrupt. Well where is the proof. So far all we have here is hear say.

Mate, did you not read the links I provided or are you forgetful?

PS: I asked you a question which you have as yet not responded to. This is the last time I will address any of your queries while mine remain unanswered.

@ Ono,

Brother Nutter, let me help Odeku:
The king kong got his ''farm wealth'' by working very hard and investing his salaries when he was in the military!

Correct! The very same way Marwa saved long and hard to float an airline. I copy.

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@Jakumo,

Nutter your statement about the MONTHLY income of Obasanjo farms is accurate and proven beyond doubt with all those links, but so what if Obasanjo Farms clears a quarter million greenbacks a month ?

I’ll tell you so what. That farm was stolen from the Nigerian people. That income should be part of the income accruable to the centre to move the country along its long espoused but substantially neglected aim of diversification. If the right thing was done from the off, oil would not be the mainstay of the economy and Niger Delta inhabitants would not be forced to contend with polluted rivers and destroyed farmland on a daily basis.

That income figure still seems overstated to me, but those details are for the farm's auditors and tax assessors to debate over, and do not necessarily constitute substantive proof of any wrong doing on the part of the president.

1.Mate, you just said above that the income generated is ‘accurate and proven beyond doubt’ so what are you on about now?

2.It may be overstated to you but that is irrelevant. Have you been to the farm to see things for yourself? Aside from this, it’s one of two things: (a) The farm does indeed make that much or (b) The farm doesn’t make as much but the figure has been inflated as a cover for illegally acquired monies while in government – akin to how those involved in all manner of illegal activities tend to have ‘legitimate’ businesses for cover (read money laundering). Either way, there is definitely 'something of the night' about all things King Kong.

3.He has remained on the board of the company despite holding public office and, even more worrying, despite hounding others who have similarly contravened established Code of Conduct stipulations. That is wrong.

4.His company has purchased significant shares in Transcorp, a company that is buying up the country one piece at a time. All this while he holds elective office. This is also wrong.

5.As the farm was acquired illegally, the sizable income it generates for him (instead of for the nation) further highlights his culpability.

His above record does not fill me with the same confidence it apparently does you. You really should stop looking at these issues through rose-tinted glasses. This man will definitely be returning to jail at some point. He will not pass ‘Go’ and he most certainly will not be collecting 200 Pounds. Only the luxury of a premature death can save him now. Mark my words.

Similarly your repeated refrain about Obasanjo Farms having been purchased with embezzled money would ring far truer if you had more than just a very strong sense of conviction to offer as material evidence supporting your opinion.

It is widely-known that King Kong was a soldier his entire professional life. From the time he left secondary school, through the time he committed war crimes, up until he handed over to Shagari (the only near-decent thing the man’s record shows him to have done) and retired from the army. It is also widely-known that he could not possibly have made enough on a soldier’s wage to afford payment for that farm. Someone (Dude) has just stated that he received a 1 million Naira loan from First Bank. I address this below. In the interim, I suggest you think twice before rising in defence of this animal called man (the title of Kong’s book BTW – how apt) else both of you will be tarred with the same brush.

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@Odeku,

why are you guys deviating from the original text?  Babangida's Son Arrested By Efcc can we re-focus please. and leave MR presido alone and RIbadu.

Yeah, you’d like that, wouldn’t you? Sorry but the war on corruption is King Kong’s illegitimate baby. Therefore, he is inextricably linked to all cases where any is arrested on charges of corruption which many (including, of course, yours truly) very strongly believe he is just as guilty of. Nice try though.

The only thing I can think of why people are so vague about this man is either they are beneficiaries of IBB corruption saga or are loosing money left and right from 419.  OBJ is a no nonsense man and I like him for that.

Thank you. Those of us who question ‘The Kong’ must be Babangida boys or ‘419ers’? That’s very clever reasoning. This because I dared to ask you to defend your Oga’s activities. This because I refused to allow King Kong’s apologists (of which you are proudly one) to rig my memory of established facts like Kong himself rigged the elections in which he contested. I urge you - in the politest manner possible - to immediately refrain from casting such aspersions in my general direction. You are not the only one that can ‘talk’. You have been warned.

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@ Dude,

i will tell you with every sense of conviction that i don't believe he's corrupt(at least financial corruption).

Really? Are you so sure you will be prepared to stake your life on it?

are we forgetting he took a loan of a million naira in the early 80's which was facilitated by joseph sanusi  the former CBN governor who was then with ist bank? that my friend was how his farm was acquired. need i tell you a million naira still held a lot of value at that time or that as former head of state, he could be given a loan on personal recognition without necessraily having collateral? the facts are there.

Allow me to share with you what I know:

1.The farm commenced commercial operations in 1979 and not the early 1980s.

2.Operations began with 50 million Naira (over 50 Million Dollars at the time) and not a measly 1 million Naira.

3.All the independent sources I have consulted unanimously affirm that there is no evidence of any loan being obtained before the farm commenced operations. If, as you say, ‘the facts are there’, please share them with us. You will be doing many a great service as those facts have thus far eluded the most scholastic of minds. However, until you make said facts available, I am sure you will understand my hesitation to attach any serious consideration to what remains mere conjecture.

OBJ is not my friend or some sort of icon figure i look up to, but coruption(financial) is certainly not one of his bane.

Again, are you so sure you will be prepared to stake your life on it?

we should please stay issue focused, and be objective in our analyses.

Your presentation of facts which support your claims will certainly move us swiftly along the path of objectivity. I await your response - with bated breath no less.

My question, since you have chosen to deliberately miss it, was ‘How did he get the farm’ and NOT ‘’When did he get the farm’. Please tell us.

Haba, Mariory, c'mon now. You sure you want to go down that road? Ok. How did he get the farm in the first place? Let's start from there.