₦airaland Forum

Rhino.5dm:
was sule lamido and his friend cursed?? Just asking. . . .

I don't think the guy who was recently arrested in Uk for threatening to blow up a plane in flight actually blew up the plane. Me dey for anything that nips Islamic extrimism in the bud (IMO, that's how boko haram started)

violent:
^^^

I share your view of those statements being too extreme, what i don't however believe is that the dude ought to be locked up for such.

A rational analysis of those statements points out that

1) The dude was making a direct reference to "Allah", the governor was only mentioned as a subject in those statements.

2) I don't see any insulting or defaming words, more like a prayer for him, could be interpreted as a curse, our constitution does not provide legal basis for curses.

3) I don't see any words that indicates that the dude has intentions of causing grievous bodily harm to the governor, what he has simply done is to have expressed his opinion, although in a morally unjust manner, but the constitution provides allowance for right to thought, and freedom of expression, the dude has simply exercised both at once.

4) I don't see anywhere in the text that supports the penal code the dude has been charged under, and he was remanded in prison on the premise of the penal code.

In all, I don't support what the dude has done, however in this case, a stern warning and an order to tender apology might have been sufficient rather than locking him up. The final judgement on this case will weigh a lot on the extent in which freedom of speech can be exercised.

Such words coming from a young Islamic follower is suspect. Today, it is Sule lamido. Tomorrow, he might decide to blow up some people. [size=5pt]this could be more like nipping it in the bud[/size]

afam4eva:
The guy juts posted it on facebook some minutes ago. The guy can't be terrorist cos he's Igbo and a Christain.

The guy is not Igbo and neither is he a Christian. He posted the above text on 18th January. Here is his facebook page;

http://www.facebook.com/moukhtar.i.aminu?sk=wall

Beaf:
Thank you.
I am dissapointed in Lamido if this is correct. Do you have a link?

Here are the links;

http://www.facebook.com/moukhtar.i.aminu?sk=wall

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/governor-lamido-jigawa-arrests-citizen-facebook-%E2%80%9Cinsult%E2%80%9D

BTW, I think the text was too extreme. It could be Lamido today and tomorrow, this man can graduate to become a suicide bomber.

"O Allah destroy Sule Lamido and the rest of his friends, O Allah disgrace Sule Lamido and the rest of his cursed friends, O Allah curse Sule Lamido and the rest of his cursed friends, O Allah expose Sule Lamido and the rest of his cursed friends, O Allah inflict poverty on Sule Lamido and the rest of his cursed friends Amen and all those for prophet Muhammad (SAW) say Amen.”

Much has been said about the young man who wrote the text above on facebook and his travails in the hands of Sule Lamido. Much as I'm not holding brief for Sule Lamido, a cursory look at the content of the text above shows that the choice of words is too extreme coming from a young Islamic follower.

This guy seems to be a terrorist in the making. Today, he is abusing Sule Lamido verbally, tomorrow he might decide to strap some explosives on his body and blow himself up with anybody.

What do you think?

Beaf:
Does anybody know what Mukhtar's actual words were? Especially as his dad is also a politician? Why rush into action, while uninformed?
I don't subscribe to hasty actions. Tell us what the boy said and let us make up our minds in an intelligent way if he is a criminal or not.

Below is the what Mukhtar wrote on his fb page;

Moukhtar Ibrahim Aminu
"ALLAH KA WARGAZA SULE LAMODI DA SAURAN TSINANNUN ABOKANSA, ALLAH KA WALAKANTA SULE LAMIDO DA TSINAN NUN ABOKANSA, ALLAH KATONAWA SULE LAMIDO DA ABOKANSA ASIRI, ALLAH KA TSIYATA SULE LAMIDO DA TSINAN NUN ABOKANSA, AMEEN DUK NA ANNABI YACE AMEEN"

Translated into English, it means;

"O Allah destroy Sule Lamido and the rest of his friends, O Allah disgrace Sule Lamido and the rest of his cursed friends, O Allah curse Sule Lamido and the rest of his cursed friends, O Allah expose Sule Lamido and the rest of his cursed friends, O Allah inflict poverty on Sule Lamido and the rest of his cursed friends Amen and all those for prophet Muhammad (SAW) say Amen.”

MUMBAI: "Don't even mention Nigerian drug dealers to me. They are a headache,"said a Narcotics Control Bureau officer when asked about nationals of this oil-rich west African republic who have been in news lately for their involvement in the international drug trade.

"First of all, our constables are afraid to go near Nigerian suspects who are invariably well-built and intimidating,"said the NCB officer.

"Moreover, there is a widespread belief among cops that Nigerians arrested in narcotics cases suffer from AIDS. During interrogation, they threaten to bite constables and transmit the disease,"said a former NCB official.

Sometimes an accused suffers from skin diseases and constables hesitate to touch him. Women too have a novel way of intimidating the cops. When the questioning starts, they strip and start screaming, putting our officials on the back foot,"said an officer.

"Most Nigerians prefer to remain silent during questioning and don't cooperate with the officers at all. Either they pretend not to understand English or they mislead investigators by giving vague information. We have never found them to spill the beans on other persons involved in the crime. A Nigerian drug suspect will never reveal his links in the drug trade,"an NCB officer said.

"We have to understand that Nigerians involved in the drug trade are thorough professionals. Some of them have been at it for decades and have been held by police across the world. They have spent time in jail in every continent. So they naturally know how to deal with cops and their methods of questioning. The police hold no fear for them,"added the same officer.

These Nigerians are also well aware of the law - if police officials use harsh methods to interrogate them, they are quick to complain to a magistrate about the torture. In jail too, they are known to stay close to each other and not mix with other inmates.

They speak their own native language to communicate (Nigeria has over 250 dialects). Even dreaded members of the underworld prefer to maintain a safe distance from Nigerian undertrials.

"The only way to crack down on the international drugs trade is through effective intelligence gathering. Third
degree methods of regular policing will not work here,"said former IPS officer Y P Singh.

"The drug trade can only be busted by keeping tabs on the money trail and getting inputs from international agencies,"he added.

Some Nigerian nationals, it's alleged, bring cocaine from Latin American countries into India and smuggle Indian heroin abroad.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Cops-run-scared-of-Nigerian-drug-peddlers/articleshow/1636916.cms

I see someone who looks like Ojo Maduekwe in the pic

Governor Peter Obi of Anambra State has called on Nigerians to be optimistic about the recovery of Dim Chukwuemeka Odumwgwu Ojukwu, who, he said yesterday, is “doing very well” and will return to Nigeria when his doctors determine.

Gov. Obi made these comments after receiving the Political and Economic Chief at the USA Consulate-General office, Lagos, Mr. Phil Drown, at the Government House Awka. The governor’s encounter with journalists ran as follows:




“Sir, we understand that you just came back from the UK [where you went] to see Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu.”
“How do you people know that I travelled?”
“From a reliable source, sir.”
“You journalists appear to know so many things.”
“Sir could you tell Nigerians the state of his health?”
“He is doing very well.”
“Sir, has he regained consciousness? Is he talking now?”
“He asked me to great Nigerians for him.”
“When is he coming back?”
“As soon as the Doctors decide.”

Ojukwu, who suffered a stroke, was taken by an air ambulance to the UK for treatment. The Governor and those close to him have refused to disclose the hospital for fear Nigerians would cause traffic problems there just as they did when he was at the University Teaching Hospital in Enugu.


http://saharareporters.com/news-page/ojukwu-%E2%80%9Cdoing-very-well%E2%80%9D-says-governor-obi-2

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has demanded the extradition of a 26-year old Nigerian, [size=18pt]Olaniyi Makinde[/size], in connection with e-mail scams currently valued at about USD800,000.

A source at the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) said the FBI is particularly interested in Mr. Makinde, who is currently standing trial in Ondo State, because of the peculiarity of the scam method which involved remotely breaking into the accounts system of an online payroll company in California, Intuit Inc.

When contacted, the spokesperson of the EFCC, Femi Babafemi, declined to speak in details about the case but our source also said that the EFCC and the FBI have been working together on this case since last year adding that while the FBI would like to try Mr. Makinde in the US, the EFCC want him tried in Nigeria.

Amongs other charges in the 23-count charge brought against the 26-year old, the EFCC said that Mr. Makinde managed to manipulate the American online payroll system to deposit cash in his Intercontinental and Ecobank accounts in Nigeria.

“He installed malicious codes in several victims’ personal computers with which he fraudulently stole their bank information to steal $600, 000,” an official document obtained by NEXT said.

“Because of that boy, three FBI agents came to Nigeria in October. They wanted to see the person that could carry out this deal offshore,” our source at the EFCC said.

The accused, Mr. Makinde, who also goes by the aliases Olaniyi James and Andrea Bradley, recently graduated from the University of Ado Ekiti with a degree in Economics and is scheduled to take part in the compulsory National Youth Service scheme.

He however remains in the custody of Nigeria’s anti-graft agency which said that if convicted of the over 20 count charges brought against him, Mr. Makinde could serve as much as 60 years in jail.


http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/Metro/Politics/5664133-146/fbi_wants_26-year_old_nigerian_scammer.csp

Are you sure this is not a game plan to get Atiku Abubakar disqualified based on same grounds of waiver that was also granted him to rejoin PDP.

Ibime:
Speaking big grammar with little knowledge.

Can you throw more light on this please?

@ OP,

While not holding brief for Okereke onyiuke, we know that Zik was accused of not having a P.hd by Dele Barnes Giwa and should therefore be addressed as a "mister".

wesley80:
Here’s an example of Zik’s mastererful use of his Oratorical skills, believe me I wont want 2 be at d end of one of those.

“It is the mere ranting of an ant”
Chuba Okadigbo(1981) then political adviser to Pres. Shehu Shagari, dismissing Nnamdi Azikiwe's complaints of election fraud.

Zik to Okadigbo –
     “My boy, may you live to your full potential, ascend to as dizzy a height as is possible for anyone of your political description in your era to rise. May u be acknowledged world wide as u rise like an eagle atop trees, flota among the clouds, preside over the affairs of fellow men ,  As leaders of all countries pour into Ngr to breath into her ear. But then, Chuba,if it is not the tradition of our people that elders are roundly insulted by young men before tie world as you have unjustly done to me, may your reign come to an abrupt and shattering close. As you look ahead, Chuba, as u see the horizon, dedicating a great marble palace that is the envy of the world, toasted by the most powerful men in the land, may the great big hand of fate snatch it all away from you. Just as it appears as if nothing can possibly go awry, Chuba, as you look forward to hosting the worlds most powerful leader and shaking his hand, as you begin to smell the recognition and leadership of the Igbo people, may the crown fall off your head and your political head off your shoulders. None of my words will come to pass, Chuba until u have risen to the very height of your power and glory and health, but then u will b hounded and humiliated and disgraced out of office, your credibility and name in tatters forever.

Late Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe reacting to Chuba Okadigbos 'ranting of an ant'. . .

Funny enough, it all happened like he said!

This altercation happened in 1981. The Great Zik of Africa died in 1996. In November 1999, Okadigbo became the Senate President. In August, 2000, he was kicked out on account of alleged corruption, a few weeks before the world’s most powerful man, US President Bill Clinton, was to visit Nigeria and shake him as Nigeria’s number three citizen.

In April 2003, Okadigbo was Major-General Muhammadu Buhari’s running mate on the platform of the All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP). The rest, as they say, is history.

In 1953 when Northern Nigerians were beginning to consider secession from the Nigerian colony that would soon be a nation, Nnamdi Azikiwe gave a speech before the caucus of his political party, the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC) in Yaba, Nigeria on May 12, 1953. That speech, while not disallowing secession, suggested that there would be grave consequences if the Northern region became an independent nation.

I have invited you to attend this caucus because I would like you to make clear our stand on the issue of secession. As a party, we would have preferred Nigeria to remain intact, but lest there be doubt as to our willingness to concede to any shade of political opinion the right to determine its policy, I am obliged to issue a solemn warning to those who are goading the North towards secession. If you agree with my views, then I hope that in course of our deliberations tonight, you will endorse them, to enable me to publicize them in the Press.

In my opinion, the Northerners are perfectly entitled to consider whether or not they should secede from the indissoluble union which nature has formed between it and the South, but it would be calamitous to the corporate existence of the North should the clamour for secession prevail. I, therefore, counsel Northern leaders to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of secession before embarking upon this dangerous course.

As one who was born in the North, I have a deep spiritual attachment to that part of the country, but it would be a capital political blunder if the North should break away from the South. The latter is in a better position to make rapid constitutional advance, so that if the North should become truncated from the South, it would benefit both Southerners and Northerners who are domiciled in the South more than their kith and kin who are domiciled in the North.

There are seven reasons for my holding to this view. Secession by the North may lead to internal political convulsion there when it is realized that militant nationalists and their organizations, like the NLPU, the Askianist Movement, and the Middle Zone League, have aspirations for self-government in 1956 identical with those of their Southern compatriots. It may lead to justifiable demands for the right of self-determination by non-Muslims, who form the majority of the population in the so-called ‘Pagan’ provinces, like Benue, Ilorin, Kabba, Niger and Plateau, not to mention the claims of non-Muslims who are domiciled in Adamawa and Bauchi Provinces.

It may lead to economic nationalism in the Eastern Region, which can pursue a policy of blockade of the North, by refusing it access to the sea, over and under the River Niger, except upon payment of tolls. It may lead to economic warfare between the North on the one hand, and the Eastern or Western regions on the other, should they decide to fix protective tariffs which will make the use of the ports of the Last and West uneconomic for the North.

The North may be rich in mineral resources and certain cash crops, but that is no guarantee that it would be capable of growing sufficient food crops to enable it to feed its teeming millions, unlike the East and the West. Secession may create hardship for Easterners and Westerners who are domiciled in the North, since the price of food crops to be imported into the North from the South is bound to be very high and to cause an increase in the cost of living. Lastly, it will endanger the relations with their neighbours of millions of Northerners who are domiciled in the East and West and Easterners and Westerners who reside in the North.

You may ask me whether there would be a prospect of civil war, if the North decided to secede? My answer would be that it is a hypothetical question which only time can answer. In any case, the plausible cause of a civil war might be a dispute as to the right of passage on the River Niger, or the right of flight over the territory of the Eastern or Western Region; but such disputes can be settled diplomatically, instead of by force.

Nevertheless, if civil war should become inevitable at this stage of our progress as a nation, then security considerations must be borne in mind by those who are charged with the responsibility of government of the North and the South. Military forces and installations are fairly distributed in all the three regions; if that is not the case, any of the regions can obtain military aid from certain interested Powers. It means that we cannot preclude the possibility of alliance with certain countries.

You may ask me to agree that if the British left Nigeria to its fate, the Northerners would continue their uninterrupted march to the sea, as was prophesied six years ago? My reply is that such an empty threat is devoid of historical substance and that so far as I know, the Eastern Region has never been subjugated by any indigenous African invader. At the price of being accused of overconfidence, I will risk a prophecy and say that, other things being equal, the Easterners will defend themselves gallantly, if and when they are invaded.

Let me take this opportunity to warn those who are making a mountain out of the molehill of the constitutional crisis to be more restrained and constructive. The dissemination of lies abroad; the publishing of flamboyant headlines about secessionist plans, and the goading of empty-headed careerists with gaseous ideas about their own importance in tile scheme of things in the North is being overdone in certain quarters. I feel that these quarters must be held responsible for any breach between the North and South, which nature had indissolubly united in a political, social and economic marriage of convenience. In my personal opinion, there is no sense in the North breaking away or the East or the West breaking away; it would be better if all the regions would address themselves to the task of crystallizing common nationality, irrespective of the extraneous influences at work. What history has joined together let no man put asunder. But history is a strange mistress which can cause strange things to happen!

Sources:

Nnamdi Azikiwe, Zik: A Selection from the Speeches of Nnamdi Azikiwe, Governor-General of the Federation of Nigeria formerly President of the Nigerian Senate formerly Premier of the Eastern Region of Nigeria (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1961).