₦airaland Forum

^^ 

My condolence.

If CPC and ACN refuse to work together, then Jonathan's victory is a done deal.

Can you imagine that?

^ like that.

^^No biggie.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7657649#msg7657649 date=1296711994]Katsumoto  -  I did nothing; he's just playing
Bluetooth - Don't think so; he's just playing
OAMJ - He's a tard  ; he's just playing
DayoKanu - We've been thru this; he's a troublemaker 
Buzegee - He's my buddy
SEFAGO - How could you?  [/quote]Noted.

KAMPALA — A Ugandan gay rights activist was killed after reneging on an agreement to pay for sex, the country's police chief told journalists Thursday.

Inspector General of Police Kale Kayihura said Enoch Sydney Nsubuga, 22, had confessed to killing activist David Kato, and "there is nothing concrete to suggest" the murder was "a hate crime."

"According to the suspect ,  he negotiated with the deceased to be paid money as he was being used as a sexual partner, but that the promise was never fulfilled," Kayihura said.

Nsubuga, presented briefly to the media Thursday, confessed that after realising Kato did not intend to pay as promised, "he picked a hammer from the bathroom and hit (Kato) on the head," and robbed him, Kayihura added.

Police believe the two had a prior relationship since Kato stood as surety for Nsubuga during a January bail hearing where Nsubuga was released on remand after an arrest for theft, according to Kayihura.

Following his release from prison, Nsubuga, who has a long criminal record, began working on Kato's property doing domestic labour, Kayihura said.

Kayihura added that police were "not dismissing" the hate crime theory and cautioned the public and Uganda's media against "intolerance."

Last year Kato was named and pictured by an anti-gay tabloid called Rolling Stone in a story that carried the headline "Hang Them" in reference to gay rights campaigners.

"Whoever is talking about hanging, we are going to have to take them on. It is absolutely unacceptable," Kayihura said.

Kayihura also admonished Anglican priest Thomas Musoke for anti-gay remarks made at Kato's funeral last week.

"You don't make such statements at a funeral," he said. "God accepts everybody ,  you must be sensitive."

Although engaging in homosexual sex is listed in Uganda's penal code, Kayihura said investigating such cases in not a top priority.

"At this moment in time, there are bigger crime categories that we are focusing on," he said.[/i]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ihVH6Ahnbnhdo3CqrEDT3mCBknKg?docId=CNG.9057dbf4f3db02f92ea39216b26eb623.8a1

I hope all those gay rights activists and their reps on NL can now shut up their mouth.

The guy was breaking the law and apparently taking advantage of the underprivileged.

Africans say No to Homosexuality. QED.

fstranger1:
Its funny how everyone is fighting over Isale

Isale seems to be the new  NL bride

Her list of suitors thus far include:

Katsumoto      ( Professor-like in demeanor, but willing to shed the toga of Mr. Serious for a taste of some, hopefully, hairy puccy)
Bluetooth        ( Always clueless, but never found wanting anywhere puccy is the subject of discuss)
OAMJ               ( Apparently gay, but willing to try some puccy, as long as it is underage, very pathetic man)
DayoKanu       ( Usually loves to take it in the arse, but now willing to give it in the arse to anyone with a DD boo-bie)
Buzegee         ( pretends to be shy in order to make himself seem more attractive to Isale, Epic Fail)
SEFAGO          ( Very Heterosexual and polygamist, loves to despoil random women he meets on NL, hopes to make Isale his latest conquest)
PHYSICSMSTP ( Rumor has it that he enjoys listening to "I Like It (Jersey Shore Version)" while being rammed from behind by grad students, preferably Bristol grad students, but now very well interested in licking it as against getting sticked)

Letz see how it all plays out in the coming weeks



PS: If you feel you have been very well represented, appropriately portrayed,  or given an undue advantage in any way, I hereby offer . . .  

You forgot to tell us that you are SEFAGO's secret lover (the reason people mistake you two as one person). BTW who is 'male' & who is 'female' btw you two? . . . Dont bother tell us, we dont wanna know . . . very gross!!!

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=593966.msg7657663#msg7657663 date=1296712357]elenu sha.iru yi bayi viagra + red bull lede ma n fi take-off.o kan dun mi fun isale gan ni cuz omode ara e kogbodo tele awon baba ti won ni anything lati offer.
In any case,eje temi shi fresh,i'm just under 18.mo de gbo pe katsumoto ti wo 48 last year.so ti n ba lo,theory bird of the same feather,eyin na ti ma to bi 50 ni yen.e jo sir,e fi isale gan fun awa youths ta le toju e.set ti yin ti expire.you no no fit understand, [/quote]Iwo omo 45sec-action yi, o fe ma ko ja aye e. Se iru e ni Isale gan ati ileke idi nwa ni? Pele atoto 2inches e ti ko le ever kan ile, abeg kuro lona jor.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=593966.msg7656934#msg7656934 date=1296691300]o ri awon boda adugbo ti won ma n ba awon omo keke je,ti won fe pin omo to yen ki win file fun awa youths.o ga gan o nitori e se fi omo ti rara,ito lo ma

bere sinu tu leyin osu kan. [/quote]Tani boda adugbo? Se o ti gbo wipe enu agba ni obi ti ndun ni? Again, omo ti o ba mo owo we lo nba agba jehun. E yin small small boys yi need lati mo bi won se nba agba jehun, otherwise. . .

BTW, Se mo je nanny ti won nfi omo ti ni? Mo kan fe clarify/analyse few things ti o wa confusing fun isale gan ni now, that is why ti mo ni ko wa fun lecture over some weekend nao. Abeg ki eyin small boys lo joko si ibi kan jor.

Katsumoto:
ok then; the battle line is drawn.  

@ isale gan gan

Ma ba bobo yi soro mo.

No wahala, let the battle begins. You can keep NL-online, I will be fine with NL-offline with Isale gan.

Ti a o ba pade ni oke, a pade ni isale. Isale_gan mo wa sure pe oro mi ye o.

Ranoscky:
I can't shout! . . . .*Leaves the thread immediately*

Please leave, the debate is won and over already. We are only having victory party

Katsumoto:
Mo ma ron awon injus men (se o mo awon ti won pe be?) kon wa deal pelu e o. Only one weekend!!! why not two. So ara e o. Awon boys mi buru gan o.

Tori wipe o threaten mi at all, mo ti change mind mi. Mo ma need Isale_gan continuously fun all the weekends. Infact mi o le wait lati de isale e gan gan.

Abegi, Security mi strong baje, awon boys mi na buru gan jor. Ko da ki eniyan wa selfish, adaje o da. From now, iwo a mu Mon - Thur (4 days), then emi a mu Fri-Sun (3 days pere), se iyen bad ni? Mo wa generous gan now.

Katsumoto:
Iwo bobo yi sha. Fi omoge mi si le. Se ti pa ni?

Mi o mo pe iwo lo wa nbe o. No vex, no wahala. because say na you and you be my pal, Mo kan ma lo one weekend pelu e ni, just to clear all doubts. Promise to return her asap after d weekend.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=593966.msg7655258#msg7655258 date=1296671982]ok.  But not gonna prove that either.  [/quote]A good profile picture will be sufficient

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=593966.msg7655258#msg7655258 date=1296671982]Well, I don't have a "girlfriend" because hetero girls don't have girlfriends - not the way you mean it anyway.  I can prove I am not gay, simply by the fact that I did not post any nonsense about "live and let live" and "gay is good" or any of that homo crap. (pls check out my siggy). hehehe.  That's how I compiled the list.  Coldn't you tell?  I needed no evidence of same-sex desires to put you on the "gay" list.  Try and keep up!  It was a joke anyway.  You liberals and your lack of sense of humour. 

You can't have my sister.  I'm an only child.  (I know what you're thinking - just don't dare say it.) 

I can't stick around right now, my pinko commie friend.  Laters.[/quote]I didnt know you are a girl.

Am glad you know what am thinking already, so I dont have to say it out again, but dont say No now. What a better way to clear all your doubt.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=593966.msg7654767#msg7654767 date=1296667052]Not as defensive as Manny up there.  Anyway, why is it that men who profess to be the most liberal about gay rights are usually the ones most strident about proving their heterosexuality? God forbid you suggest (jokingly) that they might be light in the loafers.  

You know this was all in jest, right?  This 33 pages of stuff is ridiculous!!!  Half of it was about school ranking.  But most of it was fun nevertheless. 

The list stays though.  Sorry! 

BTW, I don't have a girlfriend.  I'm not gay, remember?   But, keep looking - you'll find the right girl/boy someday.  [/quote]Prove it, that you are not gay. I  strongly doubt that claim. C'mon tell us the truth, we wont kill you. _{(Anyway, I didnt know you are a girl, and I also need a prove that you are)}

Luckily, you didn't deny having a sister, I will be fine with your sister (if she meets all/most of the requirements). Dont worry I will be very nice to her

BTW, what makes you think I dont have a girlfriend(s),  I have been quietly asking myself why am I gradually becoming a polygamy-right activist, may be you wanna help me answer the question.

Nice development.

The Entire Africa should be visa free to each other. The situations/challenges across many African countries are barely the same, there is no need for restrictions IMO.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=593966.msg7654316#msg7654316 date=1296663534]Manny4life, my fruity brother, I waited for you.  How pathetic can it be that you cannot find two (2) NLers to bail you out of the you-know list?  And 2 you-knows don't count.  Has to be 2 red-blooded testament to African masculinity/femininity! Pick from the hetero list.  BTW, Bluetooth is worth the sum of 2 all by himself.
Note:
If you can show me a post in this thread showing the following, I might reconsider:
- you asserted your right to chase as many women as you can handle
- where you expressed regret that a life was lost, but "you know, he kinda shoulda expected it"
- you will defend to your last breath the continent of Africa from legalizing the gays
- you expressed the view that the westerners are out to ruin us by promoting this "lifestyle" and corrupting our young 'uns in their country
- you stated that the guilty party was probably a friend
You may also gain the support of 2 members on the "hetero" list that can vouch that you are not "you-know"?
You may not edit your posts. I can tell.                             
                                           -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -

Anyway, I moved around a couple and added a couple more.  So, this is final. Fight!

THE REALLY UPDATED LIST - Page 3 to now:

Gays
FSTRANGER (Flying the rainbow flag proudly)
Eldee (Would like four husbands just like the polygamists do it)
Eku (but of course),
Jenifa (not Nigerian, not even African),
Udezue (seriously, look at his profile pic)
Chrisbenogor (very angry gay)
Gar3th (gay guy, gayer name)
Babalegba (passionate about man love)
2good (2good for women?)
OA4MJ; Gbawe
Manny4life (denial is not a river in Eqypt)
Drrionelli (thinks you aint gay until the 100th man )
Plus: Tippy Top; Morpheus24; Redsun; Idehn; Adconline; Olojoro;
And: Queensmith; Londoner; Ileke-Idi; Shy-One

Bi-curious
PhysicsQEDHMDPHDEDD (am shocked)
Gbawe (a gay pretending to be a liberal hetero in order to get lipstick lesbians/ hot feminists)
Tasma

Questionable
Buzugee (nothing to see here)
Mobinga (Mobingay? )
OA4MJ ( )

In a League of His Own
13volts ( "I will kill any Gay if i had a chance" )

Hetero
Sagamite
Katsumoto
Mai Suya; Lastpage; Elrony; Viewlekan; babaowo; Dreamchaser
Tensor777 (VERY VERY VERY VERY VE-RY heterosexual!  Very!)
Obiagu1 (the gays really really hate him!)
Righton (thinks everyone except him is "secretly gay" )
Deluxecad (hates homos named david)
Philip0906 (textspeak will turn you gay.  seriously, stop it!)
Isale-Gangan (What? Me worry? )
Dayokanu (thinks he equals the sum of 5 normal heteros!)
BLUETOOTH (how could I forget our champion)                                                                  

Disclaimer 1: If you feel you have been misinterpreted, maligned, your reputation sullied in any way, I hereby offer . . . 

Disclaimer 2: See my siggy.[/quote]Whatever!

BTW, do you have a beautiful sister that is 18 and above or a beautifully girlfriend (with a blessed 'chest' and a good 'sitter')? If yes, it will be a good idea to send one or both of them to me in other to help you clear your doubt.

SEFAGO:
Yes the same way homo, has been practised since time immemorial. Fast forward 2011 non religious people and even religious people are homos.

You have not argued about your claim with a well structured argument- you have only made an assertion. How do you know there can be love in polygamy? At least build a hypothetical situation let us see. Yes women in cultures that were patriachial in the past went with polygamy- you are kind of just killing your argument.

Which people practice polygamy? Name them and I can confidently analyze polygamous behavior in their context.

Are you just afraid to say Mormons, Middle Easterners and mostly Nigerians. Look at your sample  

All this one na wuru wuru

What is your point Prof? You logics is confusing. Pls put on on your critical analysis cap.

I did not start the love assertion thing, Jenifa argued against polygamy by claiming monogamy is based on love and implied polygamy is not, I questioned it, then you tried to introduce religion into it and I simply pointed out to you that before any religion there was polygamy. What is wuruwuru here. Just say you are losing it.

By not refuting her claim, and immediately arguing that this is factually wrong and carrying it along your line of argument, I think by all measures (at least in formal logic), to say that you believe this. See when I see something wrong, I either ignore it or correct the person. And I quote:

Implicit and supportive in your claim is that the legality of polygamy is argued just on disgust. You have failed to see the larger picture here. The argument for polygamy as i carefully stated is multidimensional jumping across issues of government, ethics and morality and even biology sef.
Nitpicking on one is just intellectual dishonest.

Dont worry I kind of think you are decently logical so I would not smack you senseless  .

However at least articulate your polygamy arguments a bit more clearly

Prof, you might need to put on your glasses and if you dont have one, I will recommend you get one.

Where in Jenifa post or in my post did you see us talk about making law based on disgust? Pls read the posts carefully again and show me.

My argument is that for whatever reason(s) the majority in many western countries found polygamy disgusting and made it illegal, and the minority who believe and practice polygamy respect it without forcing them to change their laws is the same reason the minority who believe and practice homosexuality in Africa should respect the law and not force them to change it. That is what Democracy is all about, MAJORITY wins.

SEFAGO:
Ok my biggest issue with polygamy arguments is this- where exactly are you talking about? Are you talking about Mormon polygamy or Muslim polygamy or polygamy in African nations? The reasons that motivate people to practice polygamy strongly depends on what context you are talking about. Thats when we can examine if really love plays a role. Nevertheless, I dont see love as a suitable qualifier for any argument tbh. And Yes, in most cases polygamy would usually be based on finances- obviously like Abiola, or religion in which the woman is made to believe that what is doing is the divine order of some god.

Before Mormon, Islam, Christianity or any other religion, there was polygamy. Fast-forward to 2011; non religious people are still going into polygamy.

Both Polygamy and Monogamy have challenges, and people get into both marriages for various reasons (financial security inclusive), but to say only monogamy is based on love is a big error.

SEFAGO:
OAM4J, polygamy is practiced to some extent in the UK especially for foreign marriages but the Government might probably not accept it because they ahve a very welfare driven society over there (Thats why everyone is so lazy  ), to allow for cultures which engage in polygamy. And No, the laws against polygamy were not made as a result of "disgust" in the US. Where did you get that misinformation from?

And where did I made that statement or imply that?

Jenefa said polygamy disgusts most Americans and I simply said not as much as homosexuality disgusts Africans, how does that translates to US made law against polygamy out of disgust?

SEFAGO:
nah trust me, any girl who is on Nairaland is bound to be ugly. Most of them are also in the US. The US is the dumping ground for worwor Nigerian girls.
All the fine Nigerian girls are in naija nothing do them, Alhaji plenty for naija.

I have seen some beautiful profile pix on NL nau, except those pictures are fake sha.

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=593966.msg7649946#msg7649946 date=1296608162]For polygamy, I think if there are enough activists for it who want to bring it back, it may come back. But generally, I doubt that will ever happen in the US, marriage is based on love not financial arrangement or whatever reason polygamy exist. The Americans think polygamy works against women's rights anyway. lol

The shariarist do it because their laws are based on the Koran.
And it's not about society being strongly disgusted. Generally, to me at least, society can select to ban activities that they know are only practiced by a minority or vulnerable in society. ex. Sharia laws against adultery are harsher toward women than men. this is a fact. Most of their laws also target women (ie. mandatory veils, banned from walking alone in public etc ) who are a vulnerable population in society. While they let the men go scot free. So why should morality be applied to women only (as a group).

So it's not about what society wants. but rather what the powerful in society wants vs the population that are vulnerable or marginalized.
ex. hutus vs tutsi in Rwandan genocide. where the tutsis were a minority population
or Nazi Germany that first banned Jewish activities. They basically used their laws to deny Jews of rights and then eventually went on to try to exterminate them which was the last straw.[/quote]Jenifa, what makes you think polygamy is not base on love? Or that only Muslims/Shariarist practice polygamy? And whatever gave you the impression that Polygamy has anything to do with any financial arrangement.

If you doubt US/West ever accepting/legalizing polygamy what makes you think majority of Africans will ever accept homosexuality as a way of life? Trust me, many Africans find homosexuality more disgusting than the west find polygamy. And I doubt it will ever change. They might eventually review their laws towards tolerating homos (I hope not), but I doubt it will EVER be accepted as a decent way of life in Africa.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=593966.msg7647244#msg7647244 date=1296576112]UPDATED - Thread Summary - page 3 to now:

Gays
SEFAGO (King of the gays!)
Eldee (Sefago's you-know )
Eku (but of course),
Jenifa (not Nigerian, not even African),
*FStranger (no surprise),
Morpheus24
Udezue (seriously, look at his profile pic)
Chrisbenogor (very angry gay)
Gar3th (gay guy, gayer name)
Gbawe (pretends to be liberal to get hot feminist chicks)
Tippy Top
Manny4life
Redsun
Idehn
OA4MJ
Adconline
2good (2good for women?)
Olojoro
Babalegba (passionate about man love)
Queensmith
Londoner
Shy-One (u so crazy)
Ileke-Idi

Bi-curious
PhysicsQEDHMDPHDEDD (am shocked)
Tasma

Questionable
Buzugee (nothing to see here)
Mobinga
OA4MJ

In a League of His Own
13volts ( "I will kill any Gay if i had a chance" )

Hetero
Sagamite,
Katsumoto,
Tensor, (VERY VERY VERY VERY VE-RY heterosexual!  Very!)
Obiagu1
Mai Suya
Lastpage
Righton (thinks everyone except him is "secretly gay" )
Deluxecad (hates homos named david)
Elrony
Viewlekan
babaowo
Dreamchaser
Philip0906 (textspeak will turn you gay.  seriously, stop it!)
random posters
Isale-Gangan

Well, well. To be honest, I am shocked and saddened.  Didn't realize there were these many gays on NL.  Someone else will have to summarize the arguments and declare a winner.  All I can do is point and laugh. 

Disclaimer: If you feel you have been misinterpreted, maligned, your reputation sullied in any way, I hereby offer . . .  [/quote]E gbami ke! What is questionable about me. Anyway your apology is accepted.

I seriously hope Jenifa is a beautiful female and is not gay, cos I will like to personally show her why no other sexual orientation should exist apart from heterosexuality. 

Beaf, do you know that God does change His mind?

Not saying it's the case, but it is also a possibility.

Of course there will be multiple registrations when some of those corpers handling the registration already claimed they registered some people without their bio-data.

The system should not have been programmed to allow that, and if the data is not centralized, then people can move from ward to ward voting in all the places they registered.

Too bad. In 2011 we still cannot handle a simple exercise of registering voters after spending Billions. And few years from now another INEC chairman will be asking for another billions of Naira for a new exercise.

I know this debate can go on and on and on till forever, but the fact remains that majority of Africans are not willing to accept homosexuality as a decent way of life (And I hope there will never be a time they will). Therefore whosoever wants to practice the act in Africa should do it in the privacy of his/her home or be ready to face the law and rejection from majority of African. Thankfully, many African countries practice democracy!

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=593966.msg7643635#msg7643635 date=1296531889]UPDATED

Thread Summary - page 3 to now:

Gays
SEFAGO (King of the gays!)
Eldee (Sefago's you-know )
Eku (but of course),
Jenifa (not Nigerian, not even African),
*FStranger (no surprise),

Bi-curious
PhysicsQEDHMDPHDEDD (am shocked)

Hetero
Sagamite,
Katsumoto,
Tensor, (VERY VERY VERY VERY VE-RY heterosexual!  Very!)
random posters[/quote]Since you have taking the position of a judge, how about helping us summarize the points both for and against, and then declare the Heteros winner.

blackboy12:
i bow for some people o. OBJ should be shot, cremated and cut to pieces and his flesh given to the birds of the air. He claimed he spent $16b on power, yet nothing to show for it. SA spent less than $10b to build new stadiums, roads, railway,hotels and other infrastructures during the last world cup. we have a long way to go and we are shouting that we have achieved 188MW. The 188MW cannot even power the whole of ALimosho LG in lagos, talkless of the whole state. we really need good hearted people that will help develop this jinx sector of our country. Only if we can stop MIKANO, JUBILLI bros and other power generator companies from importing generators into this country, then we go serious.

Has obj ever claimed to have spent $16b on power? Is there any fact anywhere that $16b was ever spent on power? Try and get the facts right.

naijafrend:
@ Topic
Yes, only if she doesn't have a problem with her hubby showering gifts to his ex.

lol

Ujujoan:
I was the last born and somehow got everything I needed.

No wonder!

@OP
Sorry I dont know what to suggest, but like Uju said you have a good head on your shoulder. Some other girls of your age would have been thinking of 'cheap/ugly' means of raising the money.

Your parents should be proud of you.

Hunter had been dating Jones’ husband Anthony for three years but claimed she did not know he was married.

How is this possible?

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=593966.msg7637050#msg7637050 date=1296446826]OAM4J

so what do you think of Tanzanians killing the Albinos in the country? Because majority non-albinos support it so the albinos therefore should continue to be treated like sub-humans?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7148673.stm
and what also do you think of the genocide in Rwanda where majority Hutu population set out to exterminate the minority Tutsi population.
or of women being forced to wear burqas in some certain parts of the world against their will.

my idea of democracy is majority rule and minority rights. I think as nigerians that are used to govt abusing even our basic human rights, we don't understand the concept let alone understanding that minorities need to be protected with rights.

read this:
"The term Minority Rights embodies two separate concepts: first, normal individual rights as applied to members of racial, ethnic, class, religious, linguistic or sexual minorities, and second, collective rights accorded to minority groups. The term may also apply simply to individual rights of anyone who is not part of a majority decision.
Civil rights movements often seek to ensure that individual rights are not denied on the basis of membership in a minority group.
Minority rights, as applying to ethnic, religious or linguistic minorities and indigenous peoples, are an integral part of international human rights law. Like children's rights, women's rights and refugee rights, minority rights are a legal framework designed to ensure that a specific group which is in a vulnerable, disadvantaged or marginalised position in society, is able to achieve equality and is protected from persecution."[/quote]Am sure you will agree with me that all these 'rights' claims are subjective, also your rights ends where mine starts. So the society need to define the limits of individual rights especially where such rights has a tendency of overstepping other people's boundary. Therefore if a right is not guarantee and define by the laws of  a society, there will be room for anarchy.

that said, am against those killings & genocides but that is why we have bodies like United Nations to protect certain ethnic minority rights. Any government/leader involve in such act will definitely be punished at the end of the day. Unfortunately gay rights is not yet protected under UN. May be those gay activists should put more efforts in having their right protected by UN, that might limit countries like Uganda passing a law that prescribe death sentence for homos.

Dont get me wrong, I dont support death sentence for homos, I think they should be tolerated everywhere, to the extent that they keep their acts to themselves and do not lay claim to those rights listed in Katsumoto post, especially in Africa.