kayfra:


And you are "Hebrew" Odion or do you go by your Nago version "Odiyan"?

Crazy folks

kayfra:



The biggest bunch of crap sandwich I've seen in a while. Identity appropriation

Time to make this sh1t stop for real. It is embarrassing the length you guys will go

kayfra:
The guys on this thread and their Tokunbo origins backed with ridiculous fairy tales and farfetched non-existent linguistic theories

Crazy thread

RamessesIV:
This inferiority complex of negros,that they want to look for ways to tie themselves to the middle east cause of religion no wonder whites claim we weren't doing anything and all our achievements were done by Berber/arabs ���

RamessesIV:
This inferiority complex of negros,that they want to look for ways to tie themselves to the middle east cause of religion no wonder whites claim we weren't doing anything and all our achievements were done by Berber/arabs ���

RamessesIV:
This inferiority complex of negros,that they want to look for ways to tie themselves to the middle east cause of religion no wonder whites claim we weren't doing anything and all our achievements were done by Berber/arabs ���

RamessesIV:
This inferiority complex of negros,that they want to look for ways to tie themselves to the middle east cause of religion no wonder whites claim we weren't doing anything and all our achievements were done by Berber/arabs ���

macof:
this one disturbing me like a rat again

macof:


1. Languages are not grouped by the religion of the people.
2. Yorùbá religion/spirituality is not of the middle East but very West African

oh do tell me what books you have ever read in this your life
If only you knew how dumb you are

macof:


Confused nincompoop. You have no idea of anything in this world
So it is religion/spirituality that determines language classifications Not syntax, not vocabulary, not Semantics but religion
The religion/spirituality in question that is also very steeped in West Africa and similar to that of yoruba neighbours.
What a dumb fuvk, a disgrace to the Ọbàlùfọ̀n you claim to descend from
So in your mind Yoruba spirituality is not related to that of the Igbo or Fon or other West Africans but rather similar to Judaism/Yahwism of the Hebrews

Unfortunately for you, Yoruba is a Niger-Congo language

macof:


Confused nincompoop. You have no idea of anything in this world
So it is religion/spirituality that determines language classifications Not syntax, not vocabulary, not Semantics but religion
The religion/spirituality in question that is also very steeped in West Africa and similar to that of yoruba neighbours.
What a dumb fuvk, a disgrace to the Ọbàlùfọ̀n you claim to descend from
So in your mind Yoruba spirituality is not related to that of the Igbo or Fon or other West Africans but rather similar to Judaism/Yahwism of the Hebrews

Unfortunately for you, Yoruba is a Niger-Congo language

macof:
slowpoke
O má ṣé o

So the Christianity/Islam religion you practice that is driving you insane you think it is local to yorubas? Or what exactly is this one saying because I know for a fact that you have no dealings or concern for Isese or Orisa traditions so that can't be what you refer to as your religion

macof:
Whites may be your master, after all you follow their religion... Which is the only reason you want to be Hebrew by all means necessary. Not mine

However people of European descent do not have a monopoly on intelligence and capability for research and study. Research and study has shown Yoruba to be a Niger-Congo language, you go challenge that with superior argument

macof:


Dullard, I've told you that you understand neither what the idea of a green sahara means nor what it means for languages to belong in a single language family. Calling Yoruba's place in the Niger-Congo group of languages a fraud while claiming Yoruba is Semitic.. Smh
You don't understand anything.. .just look at this mess of a post

When you provide substance of worth that can be followed up with historical methods that supercede what renowned historians, linguists and anthropologists are doing then I would take you seriously.
Imagine one jobless fellow trying to stage himself as an expert on a topic he knows nothing about. At best if you have any education at all it would have seen you drop out early and certainly not in any field relevant to this discussion.. I'm guessing mass comm. in some backwater polytechnic that didn't serve you well
Because it takes some real shiity life to say education is useless or experts are fraud but you some lowlife has been ordained master of yoruba origin

Olu317:
Sometimes, I wonder if you're actually read ,with your dubious information. macof says, ‘Going by my limited knowledge , I would say Ebora is a generic term for all "unseen beings". See me see professor .
So, macof do have limited knowledge?

macof says, ‘I have heard Esu refered to as an Ebora. Yemoja as an Ebora...and when these two can be Ebora then all Orisha in certain context are Ebora'.

Ebi Ora,Abi Ora,E bo O ra; O Ra mfe, Ora, Ra :- remain self explanatory. Go to school?You refused because you claim, you are all in all. Perhaps, you need to know the complexity of Orunmiela to understand who Eshu is. Orumiela is Ora. Go study. ‘Read Myth of IFe'.

Olu317:
Bantu blood, I salute you

macof:

Another fool.

This is what you think of Africa? A continent of nothing better than mud hut illiterate villagers?
So you would rather look to the middle East for a history that is not your own because you don't know the Greatness within Africa?

You have failed to provide any evidence or results of any worthwhile research, I have continued to stand by sanity and made arguments based on evidence available. You are indeed foolish to say I don't study. I would like to know where your studies has taken you

You insult Africa with your foolish inferiority complex. Africans don't need to be middle eastern to feel good about themselves. You seek fantasy from me, but fantasy you can't get, I would rather give you history

macof:

Yeah right.




You better go and seek healing for your inabilities.... From a medical professional I mean not some pastor

macof:
just look at this.
Accuse someone of exactly what you are guilty of and even go ahead to express in the next sentence

You say I think of Africans as jungle people..which I don't. only for you to say in the next sentence that Africans never had clothes or any form of complex or organised culture.
And in all this, the post you quoted was not actually addressed rather you move to another issue. But of course when you say nonsense and I sight it you wouldn't want to dwell on it. #Middle East is as far as Bornu state#
Sad reality for this one and his vascular dementia

You are even worse than the others

macof:
real sad the type of thing this one is suffering from
Middle East is as far as Bornu state

macof:

Stick to the issue raised by the post you are quoting and stop ranting and going off like a loose cannon.

Most of what you are saying here is irrelevant to the topic ie. Human origins? We are talking Yoruba origin, not Homo erectus... Then another interesting one : admixture in Colombia.. Ehn "transatlantic slavery" from the 15th to 19th century is your clue to Yoruba origin? And since when did Colombia become Israel
Don't mix up chronology and geography and confuse yourself

And some I have already addressed in the past like you bringing words from your Hebrew book and trying to pass them off as cognates of yoruba words with similar spellings... I trashed that


Seems like you just mentioning books and authors again without actually knowing or understanding what on earth the book is talking about

Olu317:
I knew it as usual, you will never learn because you're intellectually shallow minded, which has made me to silence you on this platform with my view and written books to back my information.Unfortunately, you hardly give any references to support you kangaroo approach. Little do your type know, some of us are actually specialist in what we profess on this platform. So, let me teach you more since you are a stiffneck individual. As it is a fundamental part in Human history that it, is filled with adventurism , migration for greener pastures, exploration and conquest which has been ageless as a result of human development. So go read:

a.The Idea of Human Prehistory: the Natural Sciences, the Human Sciences, and the Problem of Human Origins in Victorian Britain Matthew R. Goodrum

b. Lower egyptian communities and their interactions with southern Levant in the 4th miLLennium Bc

c. NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S CONQUEST OF EGYPT, CONFIRMED FROM A CONTEMPORARY HIEROGLYPHIC INSCRIPTION.

Secondly, Cognate either true or false in any language in the world does not change its tradition from its birth to its death. Greek language, with its many dialects, through time and space, since the Mycenean idiom, will always remain Greek, and never some other language like Phoenician or Latin. Likewise, Yoruba has been always been Yoruba since the remote past. If Yoruba, Ancient Egyptian pharaonic language,Semitic languages show close sound correspondences in them, then , it means that the these languages are genetically related. Indeed, Phonetic laws and sound correspondences have exceptions, but their help is very crucial in eliminating false etymologies and dubitable reconstructions. For example Greek theos, “god”, and Latin deus, “god”, seem to be very similar, therefore related, and developed from a common predialectal stock( Theophile Obeng).

Thirdly,go pick up written biography of these two Yoruba men :
a. Rabbi Arnold Josiah Ford: A ‘Moses to His People By Rabbi Sholomo B. Levy

b. Biography of Rabbi W.A. Matthew By Rabbi Sholomo Ben Levy, to understand one out of a thousand reasons that made me understudy classic Hebrew, which I find interesting as well as revealing.


Fourthly, admixture in humanity has always been immemorial so, it is not new even as it is seen in centuries before now and today's world. Kindly go educate yourself with:

a. ‘Ancient and recent admixture layers in Sicily and Southern Italy trace multiple migration routes along the Mediterranean'

b. ‘Neolithization of North Africa involved the migration of people from both the Levant

c. Genetic evidence for an origin of the Armenians from Bronze Age mixing of multiple populations

d. Comparative Analysis of Genetic Ancestry and Admixture in the Colombian Populations of Chocó and Medellín .

Perhaps ,from the above information, more value will be added to the little knowledge have, so that people who surf this platform will see your weakness as a lazy scholar !

macof:


Smh. Every post from this one is just senseless
I'll do you the honor however by just addressing two points

1. Even though it is quite off topic,.. Where did you learn Europe is populated by Indo Aryans?
Do you even know what Indo Aryan is?

2. Why is it hard to believe Arabs and Hebrews migrated to Yorùbáland you ask? Simply, no evidence nor logical basis that this claim can stand on

The rest of your post is just utter nonsense really

macof:
. A pity there is such a human being as unintelligent and lacking in the very basic of comprehension skills as yourself

What is wrong with middle eastern migration into Yorùbáland is same as what is wrong with talking about East Asian migration into Yorùbáland
No evidence! No basis by which this claims can stand

I am not here to discuss 18th century flawed racial classification

Nowhere have I stated the Yoruba have a bantu origin, you keep saying I do but probably just your crazy mind conjuring illusions