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macof:
just look at this.
Accuse someone of exactly what you are guilty of and even go ahead to express in the next sentence

You say I think of Africans as jungle people..which I don't. only for you to say in the next sentence that Africans never had clothes or any form of complex or organised culture.
And in all this, the post you quoted was not actually addressed rather you move to another issue. But of course when you say nonsense and I sight it you wouldn't want to dwell on it. #Middle East is as far as Bornu state#
Sad reality for this one and his vascular dementia

You are even worse than the others

Your head is so block you can't understand what i'm trying to come up with ,I didn't mention bornu state Mr Macof vascular dementia, i said bornu and chad region .. Bornu is not middle east , i said that to let you know they've been migration of people from middle east and Mediterranean to the region for centuries also during the golden age of Egypt if you don't know , also a well known trade route in ancient time .. to know more about yoruba study the bariba, nupe, igala bornu , kokobiri, hausa soninke, leave oout the bantu of south south or ibos

macof:
real sad the type of thing this one is suffering from
Middle East is as far as Bornu state

you know nothing Mr man Africa is diverse continent .. you need to have DNA test on people from borno and chad region you will be surprised of the ancestry lineage that will come out ...your problem is your brain has been programmed to believe in savage naked Africans living in jungles .. we have the aborigine African those are the one that never had a clothing culture or organised society and religion, ...Yoruba religion never reflect our present location ..knowledge of sea and some elements that are not found in this region , Religion is created from understand of environment and its unseen forces to control the material world .

macof:
Stick to the issue raised by the post you are quoting and stop ranting and going off like a loose cannon.

Most of what you are saying here is irrelevant to the topic ie. Human origins? We are talking Yoruba origin, not Homo erectus... Then another interesting one : admixture in Colombia.. Ehn "transatlantic slavery" from the 15th to 19th century is your clue to Yoruba origin? And since when did Colombia become Israel
Don't mix up chronology and geography and confuse yourself

And some I have already addressed in the past like you bringing words from your Hebrew book and trying to pass them off as cognates of yoruba words with similar spellings... I trashed that


Seems like you just mentioning books and authors again without actually knowing or understanding what on earth the book is talking about

Clap for educated monkey .. All you know is grammar, Vascular Dementia again.. ..You pride your self with the stupid junks you filled your mind with Mr know all..soon you will realize that all the rubbish you've accumulated in your small brain means nothing ..

Olu317:
I knew it as usual, you will never learn because you're intellectually shallow minded, which has made me to silence you on this platform with my view and written books to back my information.Unfortunately, you hardly give any references to support you kangaroo approach. Little do your type know, some of us are actually specialist in what we profess on this platform. So, let me teach you more since you are a stiffneck individual. As it is a fundamental part in Human history that it, is filled with adventurism , migration for greener pastures, exploration and conquest which has been ageless as a result of human development. So go read:

a.The Idea of Human Prehistory: the Natural Sciences, the Human Sciences, and the Problem of Human Origins in Victorian Britain Matthew R. Goodrum

b. Lower egyptian communities and their interactions with southern Levant in the 4th miLLennium Bc

c. NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S CONQUEST OF EGYPT, CONFIRMED FROM A CONTEMPORARY HIEROGLYPHIC INSCRIPTION.

Secondly, Cognate either true or false in any language in the world does not change its tradition from its birth to its death. Greek language, with its many dialects, through time and space, since the Mycenean idiom, will always remain Greek, and never some other language like Phoenician or Latin. Likewise, Yoruba has been always been Yoruba since the remote past. If Yoruba, Ancient Egyptian pharaonic language,Semitic languages show close sound correspondences in them, then , it means that the these languages are genetically related. Indeed, Phonetic laws and sound correspondences have exceptions, but their help is very crucial in eliminating false etymologies and dubitable reconstructions. For example Greek theos, “god”, and Latin deus, “god”, seem to be very similar, therefore related, and developed from a common predialectal stock( Theophile Obeng).

Thirdly,go pick up written biography of these two Yoruba men :
a. Rabbi Arnold Josiah Ford: A ‘Moses to His People By Rabbi Sholomo B. Levy

b. Biography of Rabbi W.A. Matthew By Rabbi Sholomo Ben Levy, to understand one out of a thousand reasons that made me understudy classic Hebrew, which I find interesting as well as revealing.


Fourthly, admixture in humanity has always been immemorial so, it is not new even as it is seen in centuries before now and today's world. Kindly go educate yourself with:

a. ‘Ancient and recent admixture layers in Sicily and Southern Italy trace multiple migration routes along the Mediterranean'

b. ‘Neolithization of North Africa involved the migration of people from both the Levant

c. Genetic evidence for an origin of the Armenians from Bronze Age mixing of multiple populations

d. Comparative Analysis of Genetic Ancestry and Admixture in the Colombian Populations of Chocó and Medellín .

Perhaps ,from the above information, more value will be added to the little knowledge have, so that people who surf this platform will see your weakness as a lazy scholar !

Mr Olu you need to educate this macof bantu guy ...Senegalese are aboriginal people of north Africa and Egypt before they were driven south by Turks and Arabs ... Macof needs to read books by Anta diop ...Mediterranean SPAIN ,ITALY ,PORTUGAL have Senegalese DNA admixture even some Cases in northern Europe .. Hausa Sudanic Origin ,,,Bornu obviously Arabic and cushite Origin .Dogon Ancient Egyptian...Yoruba ??

Yoruba

.Who are the ,beriberi ..bariba, senegal, hausa ,fulani soninke,dogon, bornu?... Middle east is as close to us as bornu state .. Did you know that Ancient kingdom of yam is located in bornu ..you can do more research on bornu and sudan because you will find the missing puzzle there to confirm the middle east migration

macof:
Smh. Every post from this one is just senseless
I'll do you the honor however by just addressing two points

1. Even though it is quite off topic,.. Where did you learn Europe is populated by Indo Aryans?
Do you even know what Indo Aryan is?

2. Why is it hard to believe Arabs and Hebrews migrated to Yorùbáland you ask? Simply, no evidence nor logical basis that this claim can stand on

The rest of your post is just utter nonsense really

you are senseless...your brain is full of junks ..i am trying to broaden your mind bantu man to know that human migrate alot, life then wasn't as stable as we have it now .. No Logical basis? your brain lack logical capacity to comprehend the evidence given to you ...So you haven't heard of Aryan race with all your history and etymology knowledge .

macof:
. A pity there is such a human being as unintelligent and lacking in the very basic of comprehension skills as yourself

What is wrong with middle eastern migration into Yorùbáland is same as what is wrong with talking about East Asian migration into Yorùbáland
No evidence! No basis by which this claims can stand

I am not here to discuss 18th century flawed racial classification

Nowhere have I stated the Yoruba have a bantu origin, you keep saying I do but probably just your crazy mind conjuring illusions

All you know is big grammar . you are not giving any fact to buttress your point here ...That is reason i want to know why is hard for you to believe middle asian migrated into yorubaland .If Europe could have indo Aryan migration from India ,why do you think is impossible for Hebrew to migrate here...Who are the ,beriberi ..bariba, senegal, hausa ,fulani soninke,dogon, bornu...

macof:
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There are many theories of origin... All of which have been put through scrutiny and all failed to stand the very basic levels of historical scrutiny

You are simply trying to be careful here, best you let out exactly what you mean. A lot of migration in ancient times can mean anything
And there are several factors to be considered from time length of migration, to migration pattern to size of migration and so much more

You seem to want to suggest that middle eastern people migrated into Yorùbáland.
Whether I agree or not is largely insignificant right now but the aforementioned factors are obviously not considered. So let me use this analogy :
There has been an increased number of middle eastern migrants in Europe. So therefore Europeans are from the middle East?

What is wrong with Middle eastern migration ...Have you heard of Aryan race ?... Even European embrace their Aryan race migration from Northern India ...You are bent on Bantu origin ..

macof:
When you deranged fellows have nothing else to say you start questioning the pedigree and identity of someone who is far far far more Yoruba than all of you put together.
Lets get this straight, if anyone's Yorubaness is to be questioned it is you. You don't even know who you are or where you come from
Your utter ignorance of the simplest Yoruba facts and deep Hebrew/Arab worship is unlike a Yoruba person

You all have only one thing to do and that is :
Provide evidence for your claims

Stick to that and stop asking foolish questions

can't blame you .macof Pavlovian conditioning "" ..you are trying so hard to hold on to the precious junks you've used your years to accumulate you somuch pride yourself in the knowledge you've accumulated over the years .Mr macof knowledge is not static ,is dynamic ..to learn new things you have to believe you know nothing. you don't have a time machine to confirm you are right . I don't believe all Hebrew link to yoruba, because i believe ile-ife cosmology and yoruba tradition ile-ife epicenter of the world the source of human race but i don't want to drown myself in the believe doing so i will be limiting my mind at the same time i make use of my rational mind ......,Mr Macof who are the the Hausa, Fulani , Dogon Senegalese ,Soninke ..

Olu317:
. Lol

Macof is definitely not yoruba he would be considered a brother if here were edo but if his ibo i don't dine with bantus

macof:
lmao. You brought it on your self by involving Edo people in your trashy delusions of middle eastern origin
And frankly speaking, the guy in question as much a nuisance as he can be is sane, you lot on the other hand require medical attention

macof are you ibo or edo

Bantu man macof you've invited your grayboy here finally . that is why i don't talk with bantus ..we are here to learn not trash talking

i knew long ago that macof is not yoruba man useless impostor with his graypig friend they will spoil this forum with their vile mind ..

macof:


So in summary :
Odùduwà came from Ile-ife in Edom(modern day Jordan) to Ilé-Ifè in Nigeria and the Edomites migrated to Edo (modern day Nigeria)
So when the Edo say Oduduwa came from Edo, they are not so wrong because they actually mean he came from their former home in Edom



How can't you see the bullshit in this? Are you really that insane?

Do you not think of the implications of this?
1. Edo originate from present day Jordan
2. There is/was an "Ilé-Ifè" in Jordan

How do you bring this into consistency with reality?

Let me bring in some Edo people here, make them see wetin dey happen
Osagyefo98, davidnazee, gregyboy, Efesogie,

No need to invite your friends here ...

macof:
Lmao. This is how you go about desperately trying to connect anything to your Hebrew agenda mentioning Israel every opportunity you get

Some scholars speak of multiple era Ife on the same site mentioning Ife Ooyelagbo and Ife Oodaye
Some speak of multiple Ife on different sites across the Volta-Niger region.. Citing places like Amedzofe and Ife Abejukolo


This is a very deep topic, such that you are too unequipped and blinded by your urge to connect anything to your masters in Israel to actually realize the true implications of these suggestions (should they be true)

I personally have defended both suggestions

I am also aware of the claim of your little band here on NL who claim Niniveh is Ife
I'm sure this one you like, because it connects ife to the middle East
But no renowned scholar is of this opinion, neither is there any basis for such suggestion

Show evidence for which information? Be specific and while you prepare your specifics
You still have not addressed the fact that in Yorùbá traditions Ife is the foundation of our civilization and humanity at large
Whether this be inconsistent with current Paleoanthropologic knowledge or not is not the point,
The point is that Yoruba belive Ife is their origin

You would have to provide evidence that said ife is in the middle East

Citing places like Amedzofe and Ife Abejukolo tell me more about this places ... Amedzofe Ghana Ashanti ... Ife Abejukolo Igala

we need anthropologist to contribute to this forum ..Africans are not the same we are so diverse.. different group evolve differently ..But white will try to merge us all up to tag us as savage ..

my ancestors will raise from their graves and swear for anyone that dare call them Bantus because they detest it with passion

who are the Hausa , Bornu.. Senegal and Fulani, Dogon , soninke....Macof please i need your expertise i believe you are historian

yoruba are not Bantu ..Bantu are naked people their thought process is different from us

who are the Hausa , Bornu.. Senegal and Fulani, Dogon , soninke

yoruba...

macof:
Common sense and comprehension is so far away from you
Smh
So you read and understood that "Yoruba are Bantu" from my post?? How? Where?

laughing quick to fire the shot i knew where you are driving at ...so we are not bantu ...You believe you are historian please i need to know Fulani origin and Hausa origin ..Bornu origin ..and Senegal

macof:
There is so much work to be done on African history sure but you don't go around with crazy imaginative constructions. This feeling of inferiority is such a pitiful consequence of the anti African/anti Black propaganda that the world has used to justify their atrocities... Propaganda also carried and maintained through Islam and Christianity brought to our lands
Africans are the only ones who want to be anything but what they are
Not just these particular 3 or 4 guys over the Yoruba
Thousands maybe Millions of igbos will swear they are Hebrews... You have such people among the Akan, Ewe and the Bantu groups too


It's like it's a shame to have African origin
As much as it is obvious that these bands of Hebrew and Arab wannabes all over the Internet do this out of self hate and inferiority complex as Africans in contrast to the great admiration for Hebrews, Arabs and the likes from that region

The major problem here with anyone pushing this is actually their lack of scholarship, lack of expertise on both West African and Levantine civilizations

Africa is a diverse continent Different race with different back ground

macof:
There is so much work to be done on African history sure but you don't go around with crazy imaginative constructions. This feeling of inferiority is such a pitiful consequence of the anti African/anti Black propaganda that the world has used to justify their atrocities... Propaganda also carried and maintained through Islam and Christianity brought to our lands
Africans are the only ones who want to be anything but what they are
Not just these particular 3 or 4 guys over the Yoruba
Thousands maybe Millions of igbos will swear they are Hebrews... You have such people among the Akan, Ewe and the Bantu groups too


It's like it's a shame to have African origin
As much as it is obvious that these bands of Hebrew and Arab wannabes all over the Internet do this out of self hate and inferiority complex as Africans in contrast to the great admiration for Hebrews, Arabs and the likes from that region

The major problem here with anyone pushing this is actually their lack of scholarship, lack of expertise on both West African and Levantine civilizations

Yoruba are not bantu ..

kayfra:
And who told you we couldn't have developed all that awesome cultural stuff mostly on our own and why do we have to appropriate other perceived advanced races to justify our own advancement?

Why the self loathing and hate?

advance race .. look how daft you are ..you've been taught to believe we are not advance . you need to study yoruba race first ..Yoruba is different .. The problem you people have, is trying to merge us together with other tribes or aborigine of the forest... when our forefathers boldly pride themselves as superior and different from their neighbors Also forbid any link with their neighbors ,To them anyone outside yoruba race is not human

nlPoster:
Do you know of any?

Subsaharan African history is verbal oratory.

Writing system has always been an outside influence because we dont believe it should be ephemeral.

Subsaharan rubbish you read in the books has beclouded your brain .you are dancing to the string of your puppeteer the white race ..we were keeping written records before the Europeans okay .. do more research. phonetic writing/sound system started from Sudan

gregyboy:
Happy new yr


Is called olokun not olukun

Orimyan didn't stay upto delivery of the child oromiyan was a Benin Prince from ife
He carried the ogiso bloodline that why he was invited if he difnt we could have let ogiemen continue as king
The truth is only fellow Yoruba's like you that is buying all this lies to claim oduduwa yoruba when he is benin, we know the tiny benin people messed your beautiful history up but there is no need to denial it...
Atleast yorubas have a edge over edo peoole now to have a better history instead of rewriting the past that cant be changed
Yea we gave ife king benins didnt loose their religion to Europeans over the years they traded with them but yorubas lost thiers with little influence from outsiders that can only happen if they didnt originally own the language


Happy new yr again

how old are you ..trying to change the history of your forefathers you can knack your head for ground na you sabi...

Bunch of fools.. you all know the truth ..keep deceiving yourself equating a jungle kingdom with a well civilized empire like OYO..

Yujin:
Lol at ancestral lineage stool. Oba Akiolu knows his ancestry and it's neither Oyo nor Ife. Imagine the distance from Benin to Eko. Lol. You can only sell this your story to those who don't know history.

akiolu is not even a lagosian his mom was not him ..his free to utter rubbish

gregyboy:
Oyo empire was trash ,it was not even an empire ,it was a kingdom....
How did they defeat dahomey and how did they rule over them ,no war was fought so how did they occupy thier areas

Oyo never extended beyond neighbouring yoruba nations those other part it extended are frictions claims

grey ass boy monkey

Oyo