Ife people were not only making beaautiful art sculptures from metals ,they were also smelting rocks ,making glass into ornament and intricate items like bowl and jeweries and beads the same glass making technique used in Egypt that is why most white scholars thought ile- Ife is extention of Egypt civilization ....We invented fast cothing weaving machine used by men faster than the female large cotton looming version which was also invented by us and introduced to our subsaharan Africa neighbor which prior were clothed in loins and hides or raffia like the ibos
gwafaeziokwu: You nailed it. Our people used to say, "ife adighi ako ebe o na adi". Literally translated to "Things are never scarce where it is usually located".
A look at the offspring of the two groups is a pointer to whose ancestors were better craftsmen. If you follow these guys mouth you go lost.
Do you think they are worth calling humans.??.. Those are your grandfathers and Ape grandmothers ""cannibals.."'. You people are hominid caged in evolutionary tree ,that is why you people have bestial nature act without brain. hairy as hell like orangutan and bonobos monkey...well known cannibal and naked people no clothing culture...Yoruba history, give account of Ibo history and genealogy, Ibos are breed of Ape and human..That is why most Yoruba are scared of travelling to Ibo land due to fear of being eaten by the Ibos
TAO11: Lol! It is impossible to defend Benin against Ife and not lie — it’s mutually exclusive literally.
They will soon come here to tell you of how the Ogisos are not originally from Ife Ife but from the sky — or they will deny the Ogisos altogether!
They could care less about their own historical traditions which admits the Ogisos (at least the first three) to be emissaries from Ife.
The could careless about their own traditional accounts which indicate that their ADA and their EBEN were despatched from Ile-Ife — despite corroborative archaeological evidence.
Like I always tell them, inferiority complex is a bastard.
70yrs ago these people were barely clothed....Comparing themselves with Ile-ife is insane..Ile-ife is up their with Egypt and Greek civilization
samuk: The Benin people where actually known as Efa or Ifa people in time past by the Yoruba. Ooni was the chief priest in Ife that was practicing the version of Benin Iha divination which they called Ifa.
The fact that the Ooni was a mere chief priest is very well known in Yoruba land. The Awujale of Ijebu said so himself. Yoruba historian Samuel Johnson in his , The history of Yoruba people, piblished in 1921. wrote that the Ooni was a mere shrine keeper.
The Ooni was elevated to the status of an Oba in the 1930s.
Prof. Biobaku has suggested that the eastern fringe of what is now Yorubaland was in pre-Yoruba days thinly inhabited by the ancestors of the modern Benin people, a people which he called the Efa. And if recent archaeological evidence would seem to indicate that Ife was built not before the first decade of the 16th century thereby making it to be younger than Benin, then the Oranmiyan tradition has been miscon-strued and the Benin version (The Oba of Benin's version,), not Egharervba's version, becomes more tenable.
Origin Ifa or Efa or Afa is in Yoruba land introduced to Benin, from Benin to Onitsha ado that spread it throughout Ibo land.. Also Yoruba cousin the Igalas also introduced Ifa/Afa to the Ibos
perryy: In your deluded mind, anything that reflect intelligence is likely from Ife and not Igbo. I wonder why the ifes of the yorubas no longer exhibit intelligence in engineering,computer , science etc fileds . Only the Ibos now exhibit intelligence in the aforementioned fields. During the civil war, they produced virtually everything they needed ranging from guns to even bombs . In Awka, men do manufacture and sell various kind of sophisticated materials including weapon while the yorubas can produce nothing other than some smelling Agbo and Odudu Osun soaps. Did the genius in Ife not pass their intelligent DNA to their offspring? Oh, they forgot to pass it their offspring but mistakenly passed it to Igbos, no wonder only the Igbos are now the master craftsmen in Africa. Learn to think twice before you argue. If the Igbos of today are sounder than Yoruba of today in crafts and engineering, it means Igbos of old were also better than the Ifes of old in all ramifications except in JuJu making and human sacrifices.
Edeyoung: You keep talking brass casting coming from ife
Can you prove ife mafe those brass casting lets start from there
Olowo of owo made it know that they never made terracotta sculpture in ancient times and that those sculptures wete purchase from merchants
This terracotta sculpture have same semblance with ife sculptures and we all know ife also didnt have any art guild system making it possible that Ife also bought those sculptures from artesian too thats why those sculptures didnt depicit the cultures of ife people
TAO11 tried proving it to me but she failed maybe yours will be different
First of all check owo terracotta head and check ife terracotta head on net before you begin to reply me, you will see thay both ife terracotta head and owo terracotta head is thesame
But non of this terracotta heads have both the ife and owo cultural attribute why
Probably they were non indigenous to this two tribe who just purchased it
letu: Those that lives in a glass house should not throw stones, so much for the unclothedness/ rags / the original TARZAN below is Yoruba land before they introduce the new dressing to the Yoruba's inwhich the Yoruba's now tags/ calls it Agbada .
letu: well let me add more with some pictures that illustrates both the Cross sign and Staff which makes the story about it been sent to Oba of Benin in the past a possible reality.
I USED A DOTTED RED COLOUR FOR A CLEARER VIEW OF THE CROSS.
It seems Ife is copying Benin a lot these days. When the ooni of Ife recieves visitors, he gives out bronze reassembling Benin bronze, he now wears an outfit worn by Edo nobles, he also flaunted the Ada and Eben swords in his recent ceremonies. What the heck is going on ? Why doesn't he give credits where they are due ? Some Yoruba are already claiming it is Benin which is copying Ife. This is how the Yoruba also copied the title "Oba" from Benin and later started to claim it was Benin which copied it from them. I have nothing against those copying Benin culture so long they give credits where they are due.
Ada and iben are from IFE fool.. Ida oranmiyan. Ida oranmiyan is always given to Oba of benin at Ile-ife "Ida ogun after coronation as a symbol of authority when ever they visit ile- ife is an ancient tradition likewise alafin of Oyo too come to ife to legitimise his authority by receiving the sword of Oranmiyan.. ..if they want they can stop that too ..They still owe ile- ife 3 kings head
Oga nothing you do will ever change his mind about you. He thought he had a strong base, but in the heat you guys left and he became an emotional wreck. The dying moments before his surrender was laughable.
Well, hellraiser77 succeeded in sending you guys back to Kogi in other to find your 'cradle', and banished the fallen angel fairy tale from your minds forever. Now your empty skull has uploaded the fact that Ife was founded by the Igbos and we even gave you deities,tradition and festivals as proof.
PastorAIO: Hello Mr Nazi-Yoruba! So did your ancestors learn Irunmale veneration from monkeys. Did you know that one of the biggest cults in Ife is Olokun?
Ask yourself, where did Olokun veneration come from? Where is Olokun situated today?
If the research is too big for your peanut brain let me spoon feed you. Olokun comes from the Ibo people of the delta region. Oyinbo call her River Ethiope just like they call Oya River Niger. The people that are original owners of the cult call her Onoku. It was the Benin people that brought her worship to Ife.
Till tomorrow when they want to call on Olokun in Ife they use Edo language.
Now entertain us and tell us how the etymology of Olokun really comes Hebrew ARabic or something stupid like that.
Ibo man Stop it Onokun for your hairy nasty ass Do you know what is Olokun .. Delta Ibo !! Delta be Ibo?..Delta people are Edo and yoruba ondo people that adopted Ibo language due to high influx of Ibos cross the River Niger to the region over the centuries ...
absoluteSuccess: Lami lami is an insect, ramirami is Rami Rami. In a way, we settle for the interpretation of least resistance. We love to settle for the less that we can deal with.
If lamilami is water Skeeter, it means ramirami is wrong, yet that's what we've been hearing from ages until the age of corrections.
Is it that our fathers are not really capable of thinking scientific for once? No, the truth is, the folks that improvise for lamilami failed to understand ramirami.
False etymology is real.
Because of this, they switched off the actual phrase for the one they can grapple with, lamilami. Meanwhile, it's ramirami originally.
But the point is, how do you know if this present sight is the to or fro of lamilami's itinerants? You can't really say, so why make it a conclusion?
Ogbara: erosion, flood. O gba ra, channel for dispersal/disappearance.
Ogba: receptor Ra, disappearance.
Evaporation and percolation are two of the three examples of channels of surface water disappearance. It could be "erosion", simple and straightforward.
But ogbara has semantic meaning.
A historical word is not to be changed, replaced but studied and understood with similar or related examples..
gregyboy: Those kind guerilla warfare kind of fight wen ijebu people dey do hide and seek kind of fight that one na fight...... War be say na only hand gun d briitsh use for dem dat one nor b fight na....
The making of nigeria helped yorubas ooh nor b lie
Common ijebu wen bini conquer dey use as slaves na go fight British
Lol
you people are retard Benin conquer ijebu?? You people are so full of yourselves .. ,,ijebu were defeated by British but honorably
Etinosa1234: Why are u crying Na Its only in Yoruba land that u defeat people that u respect
Stop disgracing ur ancestors and leave already Over 900 ijebu pple died but that is not annihilation
You are dunce people die in war .. both side lost soldiers and they settled on truce War ethics continuation of the war won't yield nothing than further blood shed, that is wisdom. The palace of awujale was not race down burnt and looted like your Oba's palace highly reputable chiefs hung like dogs as a deterent to others ,the same egocentric behavior is still worring edos ..
lol All these to Discredit Ijebu 56 ,800..Magbon War Despite their maxim guns and snider riffles ,, the war scene was documented by whites they will do anything to hype themselves and undermine the effort of ijebus , i can bet the casualties on their side were higher than that ...British Royal army destroyed Benin without no loss of their soldiers
Etinosa1234: Lol... Obviously u didn't read the page I posted
Before the war, they were paid £500 for compensation...
Later in the end of the 19th century the British invaded the ijebu and inflicted a massacre on them In the Benin invasion, the Benin killed all but two men for attempting to disobey tradition...
Goan read the Benin massacre In the Benin invasion, the Benin fought hard against the British ..The only advantage the British had was superior weapons..Even at that .. it took the British 10 days to get to the city
Hope I've educated u well enough and shown that ur ijebu are not as strong as u thought
10 days to get to Benin how long would it take to get to Benin ., laughing ..
Etinosa1234: Lol... Obviously u didn't read the page I posted
Before the war, they were paid £500 for compensation...
Later in the end of the 19th century the British invaded the ijebu and inflicted a massacre on them In the Benin invasion, the Benin killed three White men for attempting to disobey tradition...
In the Benin invasion, the Benin fought hard against the British ..The only advantage the British had was superior weapons
Hope I've educated u well enough and shown that ur ijebu are not as strong as u thought
Okay your people fought to be held slaves to White people, they humiliated the thrown of Oba and killed your highly revered chiefs like dogs in town square of Benin Yoruba monarchs pleaded for your Oba he would have suffered the same fate .. ijebu fought and still preserved their pride and dignity of their land they are well read and civil
Etinosa1234: Ur people were massacred in the ijebu war...The British used a Maxim gun to eliminate 900 of ur men... But according to obalufon
atleast their chiefs were not hung like pigs ..people die in war they fought gallantly and reach a truce. that's intelligence
Perfect example of I'm in pains
There were casualties in both side ijebu casualties might be higher war is war , a year War against British imperial army located in Lagos no be joke ..Awujale was compensated but you people let your Oba die in exile due to your low IQ ..You abandoned him to die in foreign land like a Slave
The British used a machine gun that wasted every fuckin ijebu on the battlefield
The British army employed Maxim guns, according to the soldier-adventurer Frederick Lugard. In defending himself against charges of excessive death rates in Uganda from his own use of the gun, he stated: "On the West Coast, in the 'Jebu' war, undertaken by Government, I have been told 'several thousands' were mowed down by the Maxim. from lugard, cited by Cedric Pulford: Eating Uganda: From Christianity to Conquest, 1999, p. 147
Haba. Sufry Dey lie na
atleast their chiefs were not hung like pigs ..people die in war they fought gallantly and reach a truce. that's intelligence..
Edeyoung: I think you turn a blind eye when we debate d igbos, too d igbos will also say we have been yorubanise abi
Saying the truth makes one align with opposite tribe abi
Yoruba are still the closest to us than any non ediod tribe in nigeria but the yoruba friendship is now of parasitic relationship,
Let us tell our history d way it really was, if benin ife existed it will be glaring without controversy instead of forcing us to be yorubas and forcing our kings to be from ife......it will only breed hate from both tribe
We respect d yoruba people we see dem as friends not brothers our brothers are from the ediod tribe
Calling us brothers will be deceptive stance to milk us and glorify your tribe......
Lawani
Your King lineage is from ile-ife accept it ,. calling you Yoruba is over hyping your ego
Culture › Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Obalufon: 5:26pm On Dec 29, 2020*. Modified: 9:36pm On Dec 29, 2020
