₦airaland Forum

Yujin:
You're not correct Mr. An empire goes beyond conquering a people and taking tribute from them. That's my point. You have to look at the definition of what an empire is. I don't have to school people on what an empire is. Like I said earlier, Oyo might have been a great Kingdom who troubled her neighbours but it didn't get to the state of an empire. There's something that differentiates an empire from a kingdom. That is what Oyo lacked. Different nations United under a single person to become a single political unit where all the constituent nations bear the identity of their conqueror is what makes an empire. The footprints are there for everyone to see. Benin achieved this feat everyone can see her footprint all over the lands they once controlled. Where is Oyos footprint in non-Yoruba lands? Non. You'll need to prove these footprints exist to convince me.
I've been trying to get the ebook of Archibald Danzel without success. Can you kindly upload excerpts here for our consumption?

i blame Nigeria educational system . Didn't you study west Africa history in school.. Oyo was an empire ..Benin a Kingdom ..

Yujin:
Do you know what an empire is?

Benin was never an empire numb skull but a kingdom .. Benin influence on yoruba land was due to ancestral lineage of the stool of OBA ok

why is it hard for you to believe ..with my little knowledge i know human being migrate from one location to the other what we have as Hausa now are Sudanese in origin , they migrated to Hausa land during Sudanese expansion ,though they were aboriginal people prior to them coming that assimilated with them to form new race of people ..even in Europe most of them are from Aryan race from northern Indian

Your brain is curved Mr ma cof

Our closest neighbour Igala and Nupe claim to migrate from Egypt that alone should make you go into further research on the issue

macof:
Your rants are useless now it's this gimmick?

Read this well Mr. Man
There is nothing Yoruba about you, I can very well say this that using your actions on this forum with the constant Hebrew praise and insult of African civilizations that you are not Yoruba. Even if you may have Yoruba blood, it is not by blood alone mentally and spiritually you are not here but in the middle East

This is tantamount to sabotage campaign and mental health issues or not, being paid by a church or Islamic group or not your actions if not checked and restricted has the potential to plunge confusion into the land

laughing eranko ni e .. I am not even Africa, i am a proud yoruba man
If Mali could document mass influx of jews into West Africa why is it hard for you to believe jew migrated in yoruba land.... All biblical history is in .Ile－ife history too, from Tower of babel to great flood.we believe ile Ife is the birth place of mankind ,we are the beloved ,source of mankind ,first creation of Almighty God ..i am flexible in knowledge, ready to learn give me evidence to disprove the evidences given by a good researcher...

Go and study anthropology first .

macof:
This is nothing more than a desperate rant and plea to be allowed to further disrespect the Yoruba and turn history everywhere over its head

Nothing of what you write here about what you think I "think" is even relevant to the topic

These recent rants really show the utter lack of content you guys have. Your delusions fall apart so easily that it is barely an inconvenience to disprove your claims and this is an admission... You very well indirectly admit your lack of consistency with established facts and use of imagination rather than methodology
You have no solid claim, all you have stands on your urge to escape what you think is an ill fate.. that is to have an African origin
But there is absolutely nothing that makes any people less deserving of respect for having an African origin... African origin is not a curse that needs to be washed away by claiming semitic origin
"knowledge of the sea is astonishing" "traders going as far as Sudan" ok? So?? Is that what other Africans were incapable of?
Yoruba ancestors were not dumb as I thought?? When did I make you think that I think Yoruba ancestors were dumb? Not having semitic origin is being dumb to you? Smh surely, come on surely you know you have a huge inferiority complex here... Which is an actual mental health issue that when big enough is associated with other issues like psychosis and the rest

Should we blame foreign religions and colonisation, anti-black/anti-african propaganda?

i know you are not yoruba ...Not claiming nothing. i just want to know where your time machine is Macof The ijebu claiming sudan too are having mental issue abi...you are threading on dangerous path.

You are sick in the head. regurgitating what you've been programmed to do .. You are quick to disprove what is not yet into your understanding you can't learn or improve on what you've been thought Mr "Macof too know" knowledge is not static... I'm sorry for you "if the world were dumb like you we would still be in darkness or stone age..Do you have time machine to confirm the claim ..person is giving you evidences of ancient contact and migration of people to their present location Yoruba did not spring out from a spot what made up Yoruba is collection of group of migrants from various part ..Do you think the ijebus are crazy claiming Sudan too or their king too is having imaginations ..Do you know we had ancient traders going as far as Sudan, our ancestors were not as dumb as you thought ..i have read about mass expulsion of jews or Hebrew from middle east to Africa

macof:
Outbursts of a mad man

This rant doesn't even remotely address the topic on ground

..You will go mad soon you use your mouth so say it so shall it be...

Macof is a fool ..If everyone is like him there will never be advancement in the world , his brain is static not dynamic typical of a Monkey.. He only hold on to what he was taught in school no need of improvement ragged ass nigger ..Yoruba knowledge and civilization can't be born from the forest. which we reside now ....Worship of the Sea and Lagoon..the in depth knowledge we have about sea alone is astonishing ...Yoruba Science /physical is dying but the religion/spiritual is still surviving but for how long if person like you think everything is myth ..Greek and egyptian civilization that is highly revered is embedded in so call myth "it takes a wise person to decipher the secret ,,Philosophy gave birth to mathematic and physics

macof:
Accomplishment is not "having semitic origin"

Yoruba don't need to deluded herself with semitic origin to feel accomplished
It is inferiority complex to do so

you are not a yoruba man Macof

macof:
Contact is not the same as origin
And it is more evident that influences of the sudanic and Arabic language and culture passed through our Muslim west African neighbours like the Mande, Hausa and fulani than a direct contact between Yoruba and the Arab world. And such influences exist only among the northern Yoruba especially the Oyo who are considered younger than more Eastern Yoruba subgroups

So I take it that you are saying you've been to all this places on a research trip?

Oyo younger than eastern Yoruba subgroup ? your problem is you are equating yoruba with other tribes.. you are undermining yoruba accomplishment as a race , i'm verse in yoruba religion and science ..

aboriginal people in west Africa coast don't have clothing culture they look different from us ...

I read lot of Akintoye journals he might not support east connection but will never doubt influence of sudan ,meditenarean , mauritanian ,Arabic because yoruba are well known long.distance traveller and trader in Ancient time...You need to search your source of history not from yoruba located in Nigeria or ekiti alone go to benin republic Togo even closer shaki ,jebba and upper benin republic closer to Nikki kingdom you will learn more...Even igala and Nupe claim Migrating from Egypt ..

macof:
This is your supplier of yoruba history? A man who has no exposure, no training in the matter of history nor of yoruba studies

A very devoted totally swallowed in Islam Sheikh is who you take seriously?
Not Prof. Falola, not Prof. Akintoye, not Prof. Eluyemi

And Youtube is how you spend your time learning Yoruba history? Not peer reviewed journals or books published and supported by research institutions of any history or humanities faculty? Not by travelling Yorùbáland and observing and participating in the traditions?

Do you now see where your problems come from? And why you can't tell fact from fiction?

journal on what macof we have no written history you can only learn our history from costodian of our Oral history Mr macof your professors with white man view will distort your mind from knowing the truth .i have known ilory before era of youtube..if i told you about my own maternal oral history regarding this issue ,you would never believe me that is why i use ilory for you to know different people view on yoruba history which i never believe in myself

Sheikh Adam Abdullahi Al-ilory had his own history ...itan Yourba by Sheikh Adam Abdullahi Al-ilory.. i think you need to listen to it on youtube though i don't accept his history of yoruba but i can't totally discard his claim

macof:
Sums up everything that is wrong with you

You guys use your wild imagination steeped in inferiority complex and Hebrew worship calling it "thinking outside the box" so all common sense is thrown out the window without any need for consistency with historical facts

History as a discipline doesn't function that way, history is the study of the record of past events and relies heavily on methodologies and sources... History is not the creation of stories
It might appear like mere story telling but history is not so.
Therefore historians do not invent stories, they are not creative story tellers

History Of Roman or yoruba history Oral history or written history .. tell me your source of history on yoruba , Yoruba history is not written ...we had Hebrew influence long time ago okay ..Yoruba race or Odua people is marriage of different people from different migration background , that is why i asked of your state .Oyo people will see reason with Eastern connection more than Ekiti people .. Do you want to tell me about my own history ?..even in ife i'm from obalufon lineage our features ,trait differs from one compound to the other , long head with narrow nose and jawline like our ancient artifact ,that's my family trait and features. i'm not claiming Hebrew or what ever ,what i know is we are different , yoruba see there neighbors as animals or less human. , my maternal ancestry from ondo have oral history of people from the east i thought it was a myth before...

macof:
oh, another slowpoke. i even thought you were a healthy human being before entertaining your personal questions. Obviously it is you and your jobless band of hebrew wannabes you are reffering
afterall it takes people who have a problem in the head to even imagine the yorubas as hebrews

you lack C'mon sense your brain is caged you can't think out of the box, i don't blame you, you are only reflecting on the history you were taught anything contrary to that you will take offense ..You are pig head.

Olu317:
Smiles. Ba me, I am 100% not perturb by his view on me because I am Oma Ela,which is supreme religion. Obviously he is not an initiate because an initiate is always careful with utterance or view been shared. The guy failed to realise that an Awo doesnt think death or evil on an Awo, ‘Awo ki ro iku si awo' abe le ta ogberi. Ile ba oma ki ba oma li eru. O di odi

Let me quickly ask you to google ‘baba' and its meaning as well as its origin so that you will be shocked that Oyibos don't believe yoruba are Africans because the word is not an African word. Even Ba is not too,which is the ancient and dialectal Yoruba word for father or lord of the family.

Less I forget, you have not posted the Opa Ogun that you promised me ,which is near the market square. Sincerely I need it as part of my research work of ancient Yoruba outside Nigeria.



Cheers

sorry bro i have been so busy in Lagos, i promise to post it with video next month

Mr Olu what do you know about Ede gesi some attributes it to English language spoken by brit but is not ...How could small ile -ife know more about sea and it's treasures to the extent of harnessing its force

macof are you historian? what state are you from ?

Olu317:
Ordinarily,I ought ask moderators that you should be banned for usage of vulgar word on my personality but I wont. However, your conscience will judge you.

Olu don't mind that meat head macof.. ..Olu you are 100% on point

Olu317:
I want to believe, mummification is to preserve or embalm the corpse of a dead person from decay.

Absolutely right, mummification is embalming.. mummification is type of embalming in desert region wrapping of the body with cotton soaked in honey and other resins not known to preserve the body also extraction of the of rapid decaying human organs to preserve the body

baby124:
1. Like they developed the mummification process isolated from Africa, so did they develop heiroglyphs. West Africans also have their writings too by the way. Not sophisticated as Heiroglyphs but the basic idea is not much different.

2. West Africans did not develop a mummification process. Most especially because of our climate. It’s not dry and also does not have the natural chemicals used in the mummification process in abundance like Egyptians. Though the funeral rights process bares the same logic with a heavy emphasis on the afterlife and reincarnation.

3. Because they moved around a lot. As hunter gatherers, they moved with the climate not giving themselves enough time to develop a lot of things. Only sedentary groups of people were able to leave some physical history behind and, they are not many. When you look at the number of ethnic groups in Africa.

who tell you we don't mummify Yoruba do embalm to avoid decomposing during the traditional burial rite we just don't put much emphasis on it because of our believe system we let mother earth take her dues ,We have the knowledge and capability to mummification..i have heard a story of an ancient concealed earthen pot dug up from the forest when the pot was unveiled or open up "freshly looking body of an infant perfectly preserved as if stilling living was curled up in the pot with fluid imitating woman womb with baby,, it was air tight with fresh green leaves and other things not known the pot was in form of conical shape

Another rubbish post by ibos, illusion that light skinned is peculiar to them alone in Nigeria... Fela came from lineage of light skinned people both paternal and maternal lineage ..His mom and dad was light skinned also his siblings ...Toye was light skinned olukoye was even lighted ...The picture you posted was in 90s towards his death, he was having skin problem blemishes he was becoming extremely fair leucoderma/ vitiligo due immune disorder he was losing his melanin pigmentation probably one of the symptoms of what claimed killed him Aids

ledamaster:
Another empty barrel noise maker. Imagine this one saying the word "Larabawa is Yoruba name for the Arabs? " lol. Larabawa is an Hausa language l. Unless baba is telling us Yorubas are so Hausa. . all this Oluwole Certificate forging school rs of Yoruba land sef. Like that Kemi and Efe Baba lol a that claimed he is an international boundary dispute expert, and went and fumbled giving Bakasi to Cameron on a plater of gold.

..another ape ranting here, claiming you know more than a professor of history

ledamaster:
Another empty barrel noise maker. Imagine this one saying the word "Larabawa is Yoruba name for the Arabs? " lol. Larabawa is an Hausa language l. Unless baba is telling us Yorubas are so Hausa. . all this Oluwole Certificate forging school rs of Yoruba land sef. Like that Kemi and Efe Baba lol a that claimed he is an international boundary dispute expert, and went and fumbled giving Bakasi to Cameron on a plater of gold.

big fool display your ignorance "" larubawa ""

gregyboy:
The story of adesuwa date back 17century and no record of adesewa since inception until now
Maybe you have to edit your comment

Adesuwa meaning centre of wealth

olodo...

gregyboy:
The story of adesuwa date back 17century and no record of adesewa since inception until now
Maybe you have to edit your comment

Adesuwa meaning centre of wealth

olodo

MetaPhysical:
'Balufon,
You and I not new to each other over this topic of defining Yoruba.

If you ask ten Yorubas of different subgroup about the root of their monarchies every one of them will point to Ife and Oduduwa. No conflict.

If you ask same people the meaning of Yoruba you will get ten different accounts each in conflict with next.

This is a challenge for people like you and I and others in Culture to revive that topic on Yoruba Origin then invite Yorubas to step in and learn. We need consistent answer on Yoruba and what it means.

Perharps, since we have a lead from Prof...we coupd baseline on his output.

Im CCing others with great input on that topic.

Absolutesuccess
Prexios
Olu317
Macof
ObalufonIII
ImperialYoruba
9jacrip
Lawani

Well meaning of Yoruba We need a time machine ..it can be decoded,,,more to the name than we know...what is the meaning of Berber, Beri Beri Bariba, Yoruba ,Arab

FFK is pussy drunk..that is why is spewing rubbish..