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Ogojohn:
I dont know what you mean by mission schools and public schools. Virtually 70 percent of all public schools here were built by missionaries just like in the south west before the government took it over during the era of Muritala Mohammed. It only took the courage of the former governor of Anambra state Mr. Peter obi to return the management of some of the schools to the missionaries. Not one hundred percent. The government funds the schools and the missionaries runs the daily activities of the schools. So do you now call them missionary schools or public schools?

Stop mixing things up... Go back and read the post you quoted..

I was born in Onitsha and i understand the school system.. I listed St Charles and their likes under public schools..

But it's deception for the OP to fill up page 1, 2 and 3 with pictures from Marist Comprehensive College, Nteje and Dominicans Abetete..

These schools are completely owned and managed by the church and they are relatively new with a higher than normal school fees..

That was my point..

seek first to understand bri

Ogojohn:
Seems you left the scene a long time ago. For the past ten years. Anambra state government has invested heavily in public schools. No state in Nigeria can have the liver to do same. All public schools including the ones you mentioned are all in great shape both in structural and human capital. You just need to come and take a look. Even primary schools were not exempted.

I'm not disputing that...

But for OP to put up pics of mission schools just to project a good image i something i don't support..

I was just encouraging OP to post pictures of more public schools.

[quote author= post=40539750]More[/quote]Please label the pictures.. include the names of the schools..
thanks

To be fair to the OP, Anambra do have impressive Public schools but most of the pictures you posted on Page 1 and 2 were mission schools. MCCN and Dominicans Abatete.

Please we'd love to see the pictures from the likes of St Charles, Metropolitan College, Washingtonian memorial, Girls High School, Onitsha, Ado Girls, QRC, Modebe, Igwebuike grammar school, NASA, Ogbunike boys, St Monica's and the rest of them legacy public High schools..

Growing up in Onitsha, these schools were our dream schools and we'd like to know how they fare now.

So please, instead of crowding these pages with pictures from the same mission schools, upload pictures from these old legacy schools and label them accordingly.

Thanks

[quote author= post=40539223]More from public schools in Anambra[/quote]This one is not a public School.. It a Mission school..

Marist Comprehensive College, Nteje.. My Alma mater

Their father is gone... Now, they are all up for grabs.. Nobody to save them

Good one.. But, i think the police in Lagos needs more bikes and motorcycle to increase their response time considering the mad traffic in Lagos

Adaure4ever:
I see nothing wrong with it.. Nice policy

These parents have been feeding their wards well prior to this. What's the point of this policy. because from where i stand, this isn't gonna solve any problem, it will only create more at a huge cost to the government.

I just saw this news on the Guardian and I began to wonder what is wrong with our leaders. Why create an unnecessary programme that will increase the financial burden of the state in this trying times?

Under its Universal Basic Education Provisions, the Abia State government has said it has commenced a pilot arrangement to feed 30,000 primary school pupils three times in a week in 10 Local Council Areas.

Commissioner for Information and Strategy, Comrade Bonnie Iwuoha said this yesterday, while addressing journalists on the decisions taken at the state’s weekly Executive Council meeting, noting that pupils are to be fed on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.

He added that after taking critical look at the major challenges affecting Abians, the executive council has decided on revitalizing all the 52 Water Schemes and installation of streetlights along roads in Umuahia, Aba and Ohafia.

He said the new government house and new workers Secretariat premises are to be powered by Solar energy and that new markets are to be provided with modern conveniences, covered roofs, Police post, motor parks, fire service posts, among others, to bring them to international standards.

On the state roads, he said that the council applauded on going reconstruction and rehabilitation on 42 roads in Aba, Ohafia and Umuahia and that by the end of the dry season, roads leading to Aba would have been completed.

Noting that the Works Commissioner has been directed to liaise with his federal counterpart to accelerate repairs of dilapidated roads, he said there are plans between the state and its neighbor, Akwa Ibom, to jointly rehabilitate shared federal roads.

He also said that all the Local Councils have been directed to grade at least ten kilometers of roads within their domains, adding that the state is boosting agriculture with an integrated farming programme with focus on palm produce, cocoa, root and tuber production and palm planting.

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/11/abia-to-feed-30000-pupils-thrice-per-week/

erico2k2:
Someone was promised that contract in the event this govt comes into power and they have so they are fulfilling the promise. Sombody don hammer

And the person cannot acquire a swathe of land in the south west to build a modern palm plantation? or take over these dying ones in the country like risonpalms and rehabilitate it? create employment opportunity and a value chain?

This country sha.. God will save us

Seven other ships carrying [b]rice, crude palm oil,[/b{ diesel and petrol have arrived the ports, waiting to berth.

My Country. My Country..

How can the emboldened products be into Nigeria..

Rice is a little bit understandable, though it reverses the gains made by the previous administration.

But Crude Palm Oil? Imported into Nigeria? Someone please wake me up. This is an absolute disgrace.

Guidette:
I used to do that so its not a revelation to me. I treat men like ordinary human beings. As a lady, its very easy to get guys so i don't hang on to any man who doesn't treat me like a queen. Too many fishes in the sea.
Thank God bae worships the ground I walk on. If he effs up there are many more waiting in line

for your mind o

yjgm:
That's the result. Not the complete one though. We are still waiting for other result elsewhere.

that result is showing total votes of over 300k..

How possible is it for a result that complete to be ready at 5pm?

meforyou1:
where did u get this from?

That's the new rigging tactics...

Bombard the social media with wrong results and you automatically shape people's perception to believe the results are correct

Spy360:
Gibbs late goal vs Tottenham earns him a place in forward line ahead of Campbell.

Is Arsene thinking something?

#Gibbs

Getting the crosses to Giroud.. I like the idea.. I hope it pays off

dubemnaija:
OK...It happened that I 'escorted' this friend of mine to Nsukka in ENUGU STATE to go meet the parents and the family of the girl he wants to settle down with. We were asked to come back the next day for 'The List'. Shaa, to cut the long story short, we returned the next day, and I was like WTF!!

Not that am vexed at NSK people for the high price/cost of getting married to their girls; BUT my anger is that this particular girl that my friend wants to marry is even yet to graduate from her school (a poly) and she's not even fine . So on what basis should the list be that high?

Also, what on earth will these guys do with the 50Gallons (NOT 50Gallon o, but Gallons) of palm-wine and 100 tubers of BIG yams that they asked my friend to bring??


NOTE: Cost of wedding no dey the list o! probably after the traditional and white wedding, the couple will resort to eating sand.



www.dubemnaija..com

The cost of marrying in Nsukka is one of the cheapest in Igboland. But unfortunately, your friend is marrying into a very greedy family.. That wants to use the marriage to solve all their problems

arresa:
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Of what relevance is your meaningless and redundant rubbish if you can not dictate to them?

Listen to yourself and keep quiet for a change..

How boring can you get...

Ok bye

arresa:
https://osun.gov.ng/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Inspection-Tour-to-the-Ongoing-High-School-2.jpg


https://osun.gov.ng/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Inspection-Tour-to-the-Ongoing-High-School-51.jpg


I'll take the new, well built and structurally fit schools with more classrooms to accommodate more students than the old and structurally unsound old relics you are talking about...

Again, you are not in any position to dictate to the government of Osun what to do when it comes to educating and providing learning infrastructures for their kids. The have the facts, date and long range plans for their education system which you don't have..

The man is doing a great job....PERIOD.

I cannot dictate to the government of Osun but my question is..

Is his great job effective/efficient?

The score card remains 24/431 schools rebuilt/remodeled

34th on WAEC ranking out of 36 states..

I ask again how effective/efficient has his great job been?

Be the judge

arresa:
1. Your bargaining currency in this thread is the fact that according to you, you served in Osun state which arrogated to you vast knowledge about osun state and schools in osun state, but you are still clueless about the same schools you are crying about. Makes no damn sense.


2. According to your argument, the state should renovate the old schools instead of building new ones, my question is, what makes you think they did not consider these options before building new ones.?


https://www.osundefender.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/SALVATION.jpg

3. Look at the picture of the same salvation army school I posted with the old and new school.

Please explain to us the best option in that circumstances. Do you suggest they should have renovated and wasted money on a totally destroyed school on the ground level or just tear down and build a new and bigger school to accommodate more students.

What you are suggesting is what they call penny wise pound foolish..

4. Building new and more accommodating schools with good structures to last a long time makes better sense than patching up worthless and dangerous old structures.

Again , what you are suggesting is what they call penny wise pound foolish..

5. Who are you to dictate to the government of Osun the how and what to do with their schools? Are you smarter than them or know better than them what their needs and long term plans are?


Lastly, you are the second hating and grossly negative ibo in this thread to claim serving in Osun. Do you people swap the same lies just to hide your hate and make you sound more authentic.


Your states combined haven't built a single classroom since 1960 so save your ideas or pass them to your governors back home...

Btw, growing up dictates that you know what you are talking about, but you don't know anything beyond your low grade thoughts and ideas..

I believe Salvation Army just like virtually all the schools in Osun was not in one building alone. This building is just one out of the numerous buildings that made up Salvation Army.

The problem with the building this picture you posted is bad windows and roofs. Look at it carefully.. Put a new roof over that building and change the windows, and you have an entirely different building from the one in the picture. To be thorough, you might consider doing some palliative works on the walls and redoing the floorings.. and crown it all with a paint job. And you've got yourself a new building though smaller and less magnificent than the new ones but will be just as effective.

You made a case for a bigger school that can accommodate more pupils.. That makes sense but that's not the case with the new school built in Ada. The bigger structure didn't lead to higher enrollment and higher Number of students. Maybe because the population of Ada isn't that big. But in places like Osogbo that could work. But then Parents will prefer sending their kids to schools close to the house.

I'm not dictating to Osun government. I don't claim to be smarter than they are. I'm only stating what I think is the best approach. Isn't that what democracy is all about?

I could post pictures and details of the school I served in and have you confirm. But will that convince you? I think not.. So you can believe what you want to believe... It changes nothing.

Lastly, marshalling your points out without insults like you just did, did it make you a lesser man?

NewNigeriaMind:
Let's not throw the baby out with the water.

I just read a piece by barcanista on.the TSA and just conveyed the facts about TSA that I think most Nigerians are ignorant of. That is constructive argument.

Except you have the proof that no old school is renovated apart from outright new schools. Then I will say you rushed to condemn the government when you don't have all the facts or you failed to pass your thoughts across correctly.

All the same, I believe democracy strength is the power it gives opposition to provide alternatives ways to doing things apart from method adopted by those in power. Criticism is good but let's try to be constructive as much as possible.

I didn't say there wasn't, I only said I didn't see/hear all through my service year..

I agree with your last paragraph

ThisMeansWars:
not all old structures can be renovated that's yo meet modern standard ...

By the way, who told you the schools have not been renovated? Do you live in osun? Please bring proof

Are you sure about the emboldened? We're talking about bungalows o

NewNigeriaMind:
I find no fault in this statement. Very true and agree.

But look up this thread someone posted a picture of an old school and the new one by aregbesola.

By the look of that picture, if I was the governor I wouldn't bother renovating the old structure.

In public sector, what government look at his cost benefit effect of every spending. We are not privy to the basis that informed the decision to build new schools. That been said, I am sure if you search you will find situations where the schools were just renovated.

Cheers

Truly, Maybe there are situations where the schools where renovated.. But I didn't see or hear of any during my service year.. If you look the picture of the old salvation Army the guy you spoke about posted.. If you look carefully, you'll notice the block work is still relatively intact.. just the roofs and windows which was in line with my earlier posts.

Like someone said earlier in this thread.. These new schools are meant to be "Aregbe's Legacy". That's the only benefit I see.. And that's the truth.

I gave someone the statistics up there.. Osun has 431 secondary schools.. Aregbe has built Just 24 new ones. Let's assume for a minute that a new school equatest to an undisputed improvement in the educational standards, 24/431 is marginal. And the effect is negligible.

arresa:
https://www.osundefender.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/SALVATION.jpg


You are not making any sense, worry about your biafra and let Osun people worry about osun state..

Aregbe did all that and many of the new ones are replacement for what the previous worthless, care less and incompetent administration left behind.


...but of course, you care less, it's the ibo in you blabbing.

I'm not interested in back and forth arguments with you...

There are 431 public secondary schools in Osun.. So far Aregbe has built 24 new schools, How many years will it take Osun state to build 431 of such schools considering that worsening economic situation.

I do not know the state of Salvation Army before the renovation but I served in Osun and I have seen the state of many of the schools and a rehabilitation will turn those schools to World class.

As for your last line, all I will say is "Grow up"

NewNigeriaMind:
Ok, are you from osun state? Secondly, is no renovation going on in the old schools? Third, if the old schools are from the sixties, should osun build some new schools.

Cause what I see here is a warped logic

No.. I'm not from Osun.. I did my NYSC in Osun. In Ara to be precise. Ara is the last village you'll see before you get to Ejigbo if you're coming from Osogbo.

The structures in these old schools are still strong. The problems are usually bad Roofs, bad windows and inadequate desks for the students. The rehabilitation these schools need is just changing the roof, fixing the windows, supply adequate desks and paint the buildings.. It is more economical to do this.. and the reach will be far more greater..

Oyinlola did something similar.. but what he did was new classroom blocks in virtually all the schools in Osun.. His classroom blocks are distinctively marked "Oyin ni o".

Building brand new schools isn't a bad idea.. but it's not the right strategy if you don't have huge purse like Rivers State that can afford to build 750 of those model schools.

Osun has so far built around 15 - 20 of these schools which is a drop in the ocean when you consider the number of schools in Osun state.

My point is that it would have been better if these monies were expended in rehabilitating and maintaining the structures that were already on ground. The cost of building One of these schools can comfortably rehabilitate 20 schools.. That means the 20 new schools would have rehabilitated more 400 old schools..

arresa:
https://osun.gov.ng/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/CrowdAregbesola-3.jpg





http://osun.gov.ng/2015/11/16/photo-news-aregbesola-set-commission-ejigbo-high-school-marking-1st-anniversary-2nd-term-office/

This new schools is one of the examples of misplaced priorities and projects made for propaganda...

Ejigbo is a suburban at the boundary between Osun and Oyo. Ejigbo has more than 5 secondary schools most of which were built by the Baptists and Adventist.. These schools were built in the 60s with strong buildings which has been left to rot over time. These buildings need minor rehabilitation which as little as 10 million can accomplish.

Which is wiser? Building a brand new school at the cost of over 400 million for 1 or using the same to rehabilitate over 20 schools?

There in lies the foolishness of Aregbe and his schools.. The new schools account for less than 5 percent of all the schools in Osun state. When the money used in building that 5 percent can effectively rehabilitate close to 80 percent of the schools in Osun.

Beremx:
That's to show you how joblessness frustrated your life. You have no meaningful posts to contribute on nairaland other than to keep disturbing my mentions and making useless comments even when you have been always ignored.

I pray other jobless attention seekers like you who are still obsessed about me on nairaland get employment too and free me from spamming my mentions with your idiocy.

I know deep within yourself you are happy that there's someone out there whose sole aim of coming to Nairaland is to stalk you..

Better enjoy it while it lasts

Qelvin:
Close sources to me revealed that the Insurgents are seriously decimating the Nigerian soldiers, the media is only doing a hatchet job of hiding the truth for the sake of those poor soldiers who are been wiped out in their hundreds...guys we ca never crush BH, the moment those guys pledged their allegiance to ISIS is when we lost the war...this isn't even about Buhari or GEJ been incompetent, the best thing now is for the South to band together, arm up and excise themselves from this Northerners, they should be left to their fate cause we are facing something bigger than us right now...I just watched a recent video on liveleaks showing a BH attack just about yesterday, my GOD...you need to see How this guys used superb military tactics to capture a Nigerian military base, with three T52 tanks, one T72, and artillery pieces in their thousands.

links please

daretodiffer:
This is not about race. It is about man to man.

How is Africa the slave master of all? What is your basis for making that statement? What research did you undertake? Did you even have any knowledge of what has happened and what it involves?

Seek First to Understand then to be Understood.. Steven Covey

You should have asked these questions in your second paragraph before resorting to insults..

Modern Slavery is global phenomenon that's more prevalent amongst Africans. But the problem is that Modern slavery amongst Africans are hugely underreported.

Situations similar to the one reported here is common in Nigeria and African at large. And Most of us consider it normal. In fact, it's believed you are even helping the enslaved. Everyone is talking about this particular One because it happened in the UK.

Most of the things developed countries regard as modern slavery are tagged "help" in Nigeria and most of Africa. And you are expected to be grateful.

So when I say Africans are the biggest slave masters of them all, I mean that having "slaves" isn't alien to Africans. It was completely normal and it's still completely normal to have "slaves" in 21st century Africa. Though it comes in different names now. names like maid, servant, employee etc

Edited: Even the article you posted supports my position

daretodiffer:
On a normal day if you have disclosed your ignorance on this issue, I would have responded you politely and civilly. Rather you chose to insult an entire race based on your ignorance and you expect me to treat you in a decent manner?

And your point exactly?

Your Assertion that Modern Slavery isn't peculiar to Africans doesn't in anyway dispute my own assertion that Africans are the greatest Slave masters of them all..

The story is about a crime by persons of African Origin against an African Origin. A situation similar to A father selling his children to the European in exchange for mirror and arms. A situation similar to when a former head of state in Nigeria allegedly said that the life of a Nigerian child isn't worth as much as the life of an American child during the Pfizer Kano scandal..

My point that was too subtle for you to grasp is that Africans are closet slave masters but they are always quick to condemn and chastise Europeans for their roles during the slave trade era..

If this incident involved a white European, I'm sure the condemnation will be unanimous.. But Since it's African, you chose to be hypocritical

asha80:
kelechi iheanacho was 26 when he played that u17..i am owerri based

You know this how? You issued his original birth certificate?

Na Wa for people