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As for what the Oba wrote, it's not new to me because I've heard it from every nook and cranny of this country that the Igbos like money but the fact on the ground is that, apart from Igbos, the other ethnic groups looted and drained Nigeria to the point we are close to bankruptcy.

When you outsmart someone in business, that'll be the result; accusations from every corner. I just read a link about the Bamikele people, seen as the Igbos of Cameroun, they face the same persecution because they are successful entrepreneurs.

@ NRI PRIEST,

Where did you get the notion that people are fighting over the Binis 

Below is my response to you and you should tone it down.

Don't get me wrong. I started this thread because of Jason's constant "Edo can NEVER go with the East" as if the Edo lean West more than they lean East so there was the need to get to the root of it.

If Nigeria ever disintegrates, only 2 or max. 3 nations will be allowed by the UN and Edo can go either East or West. It all depends on them.

Any attempt

I think they are calling for a full scale war. Silly people, let them fuvk off with their Arewa Republic instead of killing people and embarrassing Africa.

Arosa:
pictures please, so I can apply.

Biafra (SS/SE), a constant nightmare that torments the SW.

I know that the day Biafra is created, so many Yorubas will commit suicide.

Na wa oo!

After we don go round East, West and North, now na Nigeria.
Over to you Nigerians, defend yourselves.

Hahaha, you got them there. Anyway, the East is their inspiration so permit them to copy our flag too.
But I was actually expecting them to copy from their western neighbour Benin Republic, oops, I was wrong.

exotik:
haha, i know, funny. but why would u give a damn? u have nothing to give apart from copy

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i dunno, maybe it is the cocaine but these two flags look the same to me. i keep telling people yoruba and igbo are actually one same people, dem nor wan hear but will write me off that im on kaekae

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=862912.msg10131241#msg10131241 date=1328502882]They are twins!  Benin in West, Bini in East, sitting cradled on each arm of their parent in the middle.  We cant have one without the other.  . . . and you know Yorubas love twins. [/quote]

Walahi, no so you hate the Binis? In Odua, they will be minorities while in Odua + Benin Republic, they will be "super" minorities.

Now compare them in an Eastern Block, they will be minorities but with a cluster of minorities in it, they, together, will be majority and the Igbo minority. A diverse and stable country. 

Onlytruth:
The Hausa/Fulani in Cameroun have been tamed for decades now. They are sane there because the Ewondo, Bafang and Bamileke groups there are as tough as Eastern Nigerians.
That will not be a problem at all. Infact the country can be a SUCCESSFUL version of Nigeria. 

Maybe. That will be rejoining our Bantu cousins all the way to Gabon.

Onlytruth:
If we are interested in size, we can form a confederation with Cameroun and eventually Gabon. They are all sane and hardworking countries.
We share more with them in that regards.  
The whole reshaping is good for Africa.

The only problem I have with Cameroun is that they have Hausa/Fulani in the North. That will be Nigeria 2.0

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=862912.msg10131187#msg10131187 date=1328501466]Its going to be West, North and South.  Igboland will be merged into a new territory.  Seeing that result,  our sister nations in West Africa might be encouraged to form a new Yoruba nation expanding westward along the savannah belt and downward to the coast.[/quote]Now you're talking, Yoruba have Benin Republic right beside them  
Look westward not eastward.

@ OnlyTruth,

PapaBrowne said it all. Edo cannot abandon SS and join SW and with the likelihood that the SE and SS will be together, (Igbos have border with every single SS State), then Edo more likely will be with the Igbos.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=862912.msg10131173#msg10131173 date=1328501099]ekt_, true statement!


wha??  I cant believe that you pegged the number at 20%.  Your numbers are usually in the 70% and above of host territory. What happened?[/quote]

sbeezy8:
@ dayokanu the guy is doing wishful thinking. Best thing is ND republis that is his worst nightmare

. . . as if ND have no Igbos. Igbos constitute about 15-20% of ND.

dayokanu:
And why would UN state that only 2-3 countries are allowed?

How come Yugoslavia broke into Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia, Bosnia and Montenegro?

How come USSR split into a million countries?

When it comes to Africa, it's a different ball game. Sudan was only divided into North and South and Dafar was left in agony.
Western Cameroun did not have any option to stand alone, they were given only two choices; remain with Nigeria or rejoin Cameroun.

Katsumoto:
The reasons for starting this thread are obvious.

Regardless of how the Edo people decide their future in a dissolution of Nigeria scenario, the Yoruba will always be their brothers and will wish them well. Edo people have always done well. Odua will also do well regardless of how Edo decides.

There is really no point for this thread.

Don't get me wrong. I started this thread because of Jason's constant "Edo can NEVER go with the East" as if the Edo lean West more than they lean East so there was the need to get to the root of it.

If Nigeria ever disintegrates, only 2 or max. 3 nations will be allowed by the UN and Edo can go either East or West. It all depends on them.

[quote author=Sam_Ikenna link=topic=862912.msg10130955#msg10130955 date=1328493255]Igbo is not Edo just as Edo is not Yoruba. Every Nigerian nation 'll have to make a life changing decision when that final buzzer sounds. It'll be a great day for sure.

Edo was and still is a great kingdom and where ever they choose to be when that buzzer sounds, I believe, they would be greatly respected. When I think of a disintegrated Nigeria I see Igboland in some form of union with other Eastern peoples including Anioma from the old Mid West. However, alliances change all the time so you never know if Edo, given their christian faith, would want to strike a deal with the Easterners. They may not want to get involved with Odua thats already divided in middle between muslims and Christians - its just me thinking out loud so dont get all defensive guys.

At any rate, I dont want a mini Nigeria in the East, we've had that already. Going back to the topic, I dont care where any group goes to. In fact all the states in Igboland can go to Arewa if they so desire provided they leave out my village for me to form my ideal Biafra or whatever name that satisfies my fantasy. The main thing is peace, guys peace is the key coupled with hardwork - I dont want to be in a nation with lazy bums who know nothing other than beg beg beg.

I wish every region luck eventhough most of you guys would drink Heineken and/or pop champaigne anytime you hear bad news from Igboland. And for Edo peeps I would suggest, eventhough you guys already know, that eventually that final buzzer would go off and the future of your children 'll be on the line - it'll be decision time and you'll have a small window to get it right. Peace and love.[/quote]Word!

sbeezy8:
What do you mean? you were the one who started the topic which is baseless. As far as Majority of yoruba are concerned what would politics have to do with anything?

Yorubas are in Kwara which isnt politically the same as the SW, Yorubas are in Kogi and related to Igarra- but still isnt politically aligned with the SW.

So what power game do you speak of? and who are the ones playing it?

When it comes to dissolution of Nigeria.

^^^

Fairytale.

PhysicsQED:
I think this thread is pointless. If Nigeria dissolves, meetings will be held by those with clout, discussions will take place between power brokers, and those groups that want to form alliances will form alliances. Besides that, there doesn't seem to be much point to these kind of discussions.

@ Obiagu

A major component of culture is religion. I think that is the issue (traditional religion) that your claim (about a "myth" sidesteps or evades.

I know, religion is part of culture so is there any connection through religion you know?

PapaBrowne:
You guys are funny oh!! What has my point got to do with PDP. I am a supporter of GEJ doesn't make me supporter of PDP. FYI, I dislike PDP. Fashola and Oshiomole, both ACN governors are my best performers in the country, so pls don't attach me GEJ but not with PDP.

About political affinity, there is no way BINIs would want any connection with the west, neither would they want to connect singularly with the east .
Binis would go anywhere the south south would go and the reasons are plenty. Many groups in the south south are affiliated with and look up to Benin- Urhobo, Isoko, Agbor, Itsekiri's and the likes.
Since the south south of recent has begun aligning with the East politically, it is only natural for the BINIs to align where their south south brothers bend towards.
Our cultural affinity lies with the south south and we feel more comfortable in the south south. This is the general opinion of every Edo person I communicate with.

@alj harem

If that is the case, then the Yoruba will lose in any power game  
It's only Edo that the SW have meaningful border with. Poor Yorubas.  

Enough jokes, let me read serious discussions here.

Do you want one from an Urhobo?

Here it is.

ezer (m) 9ja

« #31 on: Yesterday at 07:16:50 PM »

Well to your shame,the urhobos r onboard, am urhobo n I support n support the igbos, so if u have any problem with d SS/SE alliance, suck poo!
There jst some people who just flip whenever SS/SE collaborate, most times I think its sheer envy.

PapaBrowne:
Again, why does everybody want to claim affinity?? I simply don't get it!! How special can the EDO's be??

My brother, you people are special.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=862912.msg10130808#msg10130808 date=1328489388]Cosign. I believe in the right of self-determination for minorities.

All of this claiming other people stuff that people like Obiagu1 do is lame.

Even Itsekiri, who in my opinion are a Yoruba tribe deserve the right to self-determination. If Nigeria scatters and they prefer to stay in some South South Republic, more power to them.[/quote]I believe in self determination too but this persistent attempt by the Yoruba to isolate the Edo from their allies in the SS/SE is laughable.

This is what self determination can produce.

130,562 NO to Yoruba
 
2,081 Yes to Yoruba.

This is what I believe in and here I stand.  

Referendum: Will Edo be with Yoruba?

130,562 NO

2,081 Yes

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=862912.msg10130793#msg10130793 date=1328488889]So from edo.girl's two posts earlier on this thread:


She mentioned that they might see themselves as closer to someone from Asaba. But not someone from Owerri.

And she explicitly denied the possibility of any interest in any political alliances with Igbos. Yet claims that they would not be opposed to looking West.

And your conclusion after reading these two posts is that Edo is closer to Igbo than Yoruba?

And I am the one misreading posts, or selectively reading?

How much more do you want someone to deny you than to say her people want to have nothing to do with yours?  [/quote]She said who they are closer to which is Igbo but she would lean West (that's her choice).

The problem with SWners is that most of you don't know the extent of Bini/Western Igbo relationship.

alj harem:
Anofia

I told you to first identify yourself. Are you Awori or Kanuri today? Let me know where I'll start replying you.

NL #1 liar and junk poster.

How can an Edo lean West and abandon SS

Their fathers ran away from the West not too long ago so it doesn't make sense.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=862912.msg10130772#msg10130772 date=1328488497]PapaBrowne is the only person who has made this claim, out of many Edo posters who have posted on this thread.

I am not inclined to place any special weight upon his words, especially given his antecedents as a PDP sycophant.

To demonstrate your point, you'd need ~50% saying yes, rather than only 1 out of many. . .

Try harder.[/quote]Just look up this page, you'll see that of edo.girl or do you selectively read what will please you?