₦airaland Forum

kings33:
I am suprise that in Odili's claim of Ojukwu having fought for 13% he didnt even regard the effort of the former governor of Akwa Ibom State, Victor Attah. Soon someone would claim that he discovered Nigeria as Columbus did America. buried him on time lets rest, the man is gone where he worked for, why all the fuss about a corpse.

You are really dumb, sad to say this. What was the gathering all about again? Memorial lecture in honour of the defunct Biafran leader in Port Harcourt. Was it about Victor Attah? SMH.

alj harem:
Nice One

More South-Southerners should come out and speak the truth

Not surprised. I don't blame you though because it's not your fault. I really do hope you could do more to expand your limit of comprehension.

@ OnlyTruth

I think you got it all wrong. Completely wrong. No one said declaring an Igboland Republic without an agreement with the rest of Nigeria and no one is talking about war. We are only talking about this phantom "unity" which is a bit questionable and suspicious.
You keep harping on what you could have done if you were there in 1967 with the benefit of hindsight with you. Now tell me, what could you have done differently? Step down as the Governor of Eastern Region and hand over to a minority?

Until you address this question, I really don't know what you meant by "allow(ing) the whole Biafran secession effort be led by non-Igbo almost completely" and how they were "never seriously carried" along during our struggle.

Lord, could this be possible?

*Waiting anxiously for further news*

^^^

I will not use the word "negligible" for anyone; just saying.

Beaf:
The term, parasite is certainly limited to individuals like dayokanu, ekt_bear etc and other ethnic bigots who cannot see beyond the shiit in their gory arses. It isn't an SW thing.

Oh I see.

Beaf:
Lol! The words of an ignorant parasite.
Like I said earlier, Ugfhelli is more developed than most state capitals in Nigeria (Sapele is more developed than Ughelli by the way). LOLZZZZZ!!

What have the Mahin Ilaje's got in Ondo? Why are they being used as 13% derivation donkeys and water carriers?
It is best to merge their communities with their kin in Delta state where they are most welcome and where there is no marginalisation or Neanderthal degrees of ethnic chauvinism.

I think it will be good to address the SW and North with different words, both cannot be called parasite. Maybe one should be called leech or some other words. Just saying . . .

EzeUche:
^^^

Oil is a curse. Keep on celebrating oil, because only lazy people rely on oil.

Oil is not a curse. It is not a curse to Albertans and will not be a curse to Anambrarians!

You really got issues.

Dede1:
I have argued relentlessly about the avoidance of the civil war. Yes, it could have been avoided but it was not through subjugation of Ndigbo in any form or manner. Even Ojukwu alluded to this fact in one of the few interviews he gave to certain news media. I shall not dabble into the lengthy history of Nigeria with Igbo statesmen at certain leadership positions as it pertained to the civil war. The northern region never believed in the cesspit called Nigeria and I believe Uche Chukwumerije could attest to it as his position in RMA, Sandhurst, UK remains vacant till today because of nepotistic attitude of Tafawa Balewa’s government towards northerners.

Of course, the civil war would have been avoided if the so-called elites of Igbo peeps, such as Ironsi, in Nigerian armed forces had listened to few junior staff officers such Lt Col Patrick Anwunah. It is unexplainable manner of attitude found among certain Igbo peeps in corridor power to have unflinching trust on non-Igbo people around them which eventually saw us in a terrible war where we fought defensively throughout duration of the war.

With all due respect sir, it is unacceptable indictment of Nidgbo for anyone to insinuate minorities in eastern region were not carried along in Biafran course. The SSG was a minority, second in command was minority, ambassador of Biafra in UK was a minority, most Baifran brigade commanders were from the minority, Biafran propagandist was a minority, minister of natural resources was minority and the representative of Biafra in Canada was a minority. How else will a minority be carried? I guess they would have been happy if Ojukwu was a minority too.

It is unfortunate a person of well-organized social order such as you will draw diametrically opposed analogy between Ndigbo/minorities in eastern region of Nigeria with European/African-Americans in USA. Ndigbo did not enslave the minorities in eastern region. Ndigbo were equally unfortunate as the minorities in eastern region to found them selves in a country such as Nigeria. Ndigbo can not change their aggressiveness, hardworking nature, industriousness, business acumen and willingness to compete with anybody even when the playing field is not level, in fact qualities that attracted hatred from their neighbors.

If Nigeria should disintegrate today or suddenly found itself in a slippery path of balkanization, I shall adamantly call for Republic of Igbo land. There are things nobody can modify in Nigeria and one of them is geographical location of certain things. If Ndigbo could not fight to defend them selves in a situation in Nigeria where Yoruba, Fulani, Hausa, Kanuri, Tiv or Nupe are fighting to stand as a nation, then Ndigbo should remain vanquished. 

I shall state unequivocally there are absolutely nothing the minority ethnicities possessed Ndigbo crave. However, I shall not reject the idea of sharing nationality with Ibibio, Annang, Ogoni and Okirika/Kalabari.

I agree with you and the boldfaced is my concern. Unless they are lording over us, then we are one else they are different to the extent that SS Igbos didn't count as SS when OBJ decided to pick a SS as the VP to Yar'dua.

However, I'm not against a united East, strategically it will be very helpful in whatever we do, but I will always be cautious when dealing with them until I start to see openness and fairness from their side. We have supported them lets see how they will reciprocate.

Who ever thinks that Ojukwu was not a member of the 9 man committee set up to address the issue of derivation should disprove it with fact or shut up.

I think some people like fstranger/igbaodun really have mental problem.

alj harem:
already !!!!!!!

Yes it is good Igbos are rising and getting stronger, No one is disputing that from u. Classic case of inferiority complex, the question here is Ojukwu not Igbos

It's inferiority complex that's troubling you that's why you spend 24/7 on Igbo threads. Get a life, kid.

This is why Michael Essien was always getting injured wearing Black Stars jersey!

This is why it's easier to get A1 in Mathematics than in English Language; it's such a crazy language

I wonder why some of you should be exchanging words with that kid aribisala0.
Here is a typical post by him, enjoy the rest of the thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-797828.448.html#msg9629391

So Ondo people stole Edo oil wells
It has OBJ handwriting written all over it, maybe I'm wrong.

This would set a precedent if he wins. I hope he does so that other Nigerians abroad won't be worried about these gold diggers any more. You marry to the custom period.

^^^

People come all the way from Ghana to buy goods in Onitsha and Aba. Like you said, the idea that you have to invest outside Igboland to access to the market elsewhere is false.

@ OnlyTruth, you got a great piece there, I always trust your judgement. However, Hausas allowing Gowon to lead was not strategic, rather it was the circumstance they found themselves in. Gowon was the COAS then and he led the coup. In our own situation, Ojukwu was the Governor of Eastern Region so positions were kept in both cases. There was no extraordinary planning in respect to leadership.

On the believe that you could have, if you were in a position to do so in the 60's, let our Biafran secession effort be led by non-Igbo almost completely, though it "could" make a difference but I tell you that that's the position they want us, Ndigbo, to be; their subordinates. That's the only situation that seems to make them happy. Just like when Prof Eyo Ita was the head of government and Obong of Calabar was the president of House of Chiefs, things were rosy and good and everyone was happy but when Zik became the head of government, things changed. You know the rest.

When OBJ was about to groom a possible successor to a Northern President after him, guess what happened, the SS ratcheted up their cry and many were saying it had to be them and not an Igboman. OBJ did their wish and they were happy. When GEJ faced difficulty succeeding Yar'dua, it was Dora that ended the lies and gimmick in the Executive council meeting and she took a lot of damaging flak for that. When it came to supporting GEJ to win an election, we were there for them 100% which cost our people's lives in the aftermath of the election in the North. You know the rest. We have again and again proved that we care for our brothers/cousins but who cares for us?

So, on what you said that "our dream will remain a dream if we fail to carry them along" did not go down well with me if the idea of carrying them along is to make them lord over us, as they've proved over and over again as the only condition for partnership, then fu<k it, we can always find a way out of every situation.

I'm very sceptical when I have history to back up my worries. Let's see how their support for an Igbo President would be; I hope you wouldn't be shocked. After then I'll beat my chest and say "we have an important ally" and only then that I'll agree that our neighbours are priceless assets to us rather than sinkholes that are there to drain all our efforts and struggles and reduce us to nothingness.

I admire people like Beaf, who I believe is sincere, for his efforts.

sheyguy:
They av brains also, it is hard to go through any higher instution of learning in Nigeria without being lectured by a handful of ondo state academicians. Can ur state boast of that Nchara?
Quit it. Ondo state is no walk over. Before u start feeling too fly, u shld know IH is used for medicine ( medical marijuana).

Sorry but the higher institution I attended did not have one Ondo academician.
Your world starts and ends within the boundary called Yorubaland.

Talk of delusion of grandeur  

He is a good choice. I wish him God's guidance.

BlackPikiN:
^^^Ada Igbo, I wan go sleep.

We will continue tomoroow.

Do you need links? 
Will it satisfy your curiosity about 500thousand people traveling.

Who told you she is Igbo? God forbid.

Metalgoong:
This jobless American returnee, Emeka Ojukwu Jnr,  is a disgrace to his late father and Ndigbo in general . . . . What he and the traditional ruler of Nawfia ( another jobless American returnee) did was a travesty of Igbo tradition and has  the word desperation written all over it . . .  Its obvious that he is brewing for war with the good people of Nnewi who conferred the title, Ikemba Nnewi , (not Ikemba of any other town or Igboland ) on his late father. . . Even if he is the rightful successor to his late father, it is only the traditional ruler of Nnewi that can confer him the  title Ikemba Nnewi II, since his father's title is Ikemba Nnewi  I. It is glaring that he is trying to usurp the rightful position of his elder step brother ; and this explains the rational behind his ignominious act of going to another town to receive the title of Ikemba II because he knows that he doesn't merit the title, and also that the traditional ruler of Nnewi wont give him the title.  . . 

My fellow Igbos on this forum should ask Emeka Ojukwu jnr this question:  Ikemba II of Where?? ? . .  Nnewi, Nawfia or Igboland?   

Make you no kill me with laugh oo!
Ikemba II of Nawfia, where is Ikemba I of Nawfia

^^^
Sorry but English is not one dimensional. Nothing is wrong with what I wrote.

Hunters, kai!

So Enugu get Lions and Antelopes

or are they hunting for humans ?

Some people are really crazy. Where do all those Igbos that return home during Christmas from the North and Lagos stay? Do you think they don't have homes in Igboland?

This insult is getting out of hand.  

Nawa oo!

Just speechless.

Hausaland is Hausaland, Igala-land is Igala-land.

To protect our property in neighbouring Igala is not as difficult as it would be in Sokoto though I'll encourage people to put up more properties in Igboland even if you have already.
As for me, I'll not invest outside Igboland.

However, Igbo siri na obu ego ka-eji achu ego. If there's money to be made in Igala-land, exploit it.

^^^

Maybe it's an indication that folks have realised that the SW cannot be trusted when it comes to taking a position. It's better they are left out because you cannot agree with them on anything and expect them to maintain that agreement which they initially entered into. Anything is possible with the SW.

I remember how they betrayed the SS and SE on resource control debate which they had initially agreed to leaving the other Southerners short of support.

I think it's a very good move if it works out. The 3 regions need to be on the same side on political issues. It's left for the SW to decide if they want to join their cousins in the North or remain with other Southerners.

Since leadership by Northerners has brought backwardness to them, then I think the most prudent thing to do is to give up leadership and allow Southerners to lead them out of the mess they created for themselves.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=874906.msg10231936#msg10231936 date=1329729945]Reading articles like this just makes me pray that Nigeria divides, and divides fast.

I am ashamed and angry to be associated with a country as incompetent as this one.

Your children are starving, you cannot feed them. . . so you order someone else to do it.[/quote]When I said I hate Nigeria, some people were on my neck.
Nigeria is poo, filled will fools with reasoning deficiency.