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alj harem:
LOL if you no like am go hang yourselves out of envy

it is what it is  envious ideeiot

Who takes you serious? lol

You know you're a born liar with multiple personalities.
No need to call anyone snake; I think your name, Alh Haram, will suffice.

auwal87:
This is a little gist as to the funny thing that happened when the Emirs and the Arewa Liberation Group met last week. Some of them were actually suggesting that the name of our new country should bear the name of Usman Dan Fodio, while some of them argue that the name Arewa should be retained.

They do have their reasons though of suggesting Fodio Islamic Republic (Jamhuriyar Musulunci ta Fodio), which is to accommodate the demands of Boko Haram to establish a fully Islamic state, the argument lasted for about 4 hours roughly and a second meeting was scheduled to decide on the name. Other sensitive issues discussed was the issue of Christians living in Arewa and the role they should play as minorities. The general agreement is that they will be allowed to practice their religion freely, but all forms of propagation will not be allowed. What makes it interesting is the fact that there is always a general agreement, apart from the name which I am sure they will decide soon.

This is an insider report  I do not expect it to be on the news headlines else I will be blamed, even though nothing will happen  I am just informing my NL southern friends to be informed on the current happenings. 

It was really interesting, and they were all interested, as none opposed the idea of secession, we all feel oppressed as much as the southerners feel, or even worst.

If this is true, then it's a great news.
Maybe Arewa/Fodio Islamic Republic will be created first followed by Odua Republic.

Our prayer is being answered gradually.

alj harem:
you are disconnected from the reality

Yes they did but now they are part of OPC, afenifere odua organisation etc and all other yoruba organisations. What then makes them more yoruba after that

Stop yarning opata with so much gusto, geez!

dayokanu:
Former Edo State governor is called John Oyegun

Some Edo state names Adesua, Aiyegbeni

Some Igbos answer Edet but they are not Ibibio.

alj harem:
Obiagu

LOL time to safe-face, now it is time to attack Jason who does not want to be with you. LOL

Maybe after attacking Jason you would go back to your previous thread that says edo is baifra LOL

No I'm not attacking Jason but he seems to be disconnected with reality.
In Warri under which Itsekiris voted in the referendum, 96% of them said NO to Yoruba but he didn't know that.

ak47mann:
can they join their brothers in SW cus he sounds like he is not feeling delta brothers

Well, an Itsekiri from Ogbe Ijaw
He has to first know the name of his town.

afam4eva:
I think I'll subscribe to edogirl's position. I'll also like to add that the link between edos and Yorubas is more of a political one than cultural. They tend to tow the same part as the Yorubas because of their history politically. But I'll say that edos, just like any ND group seem to flow with everyday Igbos than they do Yorubas. Except the ones that have been alculturated.

The political link between the Yoruba and Bini started with the creation of East and West when Southern Nigeria was divided along River Niger.
In 1963, they said enough was enough and the result is clear on the referendum.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/618690_Midwest_gifc8ab793912f73fbfd315c809824d9a07

Jason is Itsekiri from Ogbe Ijaw in Delta State.

BlackBaron:
Don't really understand what you're driving at. . .

The Benin empire once stretched towards some regions of yorubaland.

No yoruba is claiming them as one of theirs even though both groups retain certain strong influences from the oduduwa folklore to some aspects of their traditional dances and dressing.

In the event of a split, it would be up to them to decide which region to join and not the yorubas nor igbos

Would advise you check historical resources all over the internet before you display continued further ignorance.

Well the only thing I could find was Oduduwa.

^^^

This is not Anambra post.

Reggie2:
I don't get it. The battle line is between the Hausa-Fulani/Yoruba against Ndigbo. The ss hang fearfully on the fence unsure of itself. Wetin be the real problem? Jealousy? This was the picture during Biafra. The Middle belt, I guess may not be willing to continue a gruesome marriage with the core north to massacre Ndigbo. Sensing this posture, BH will soon turn loose on them. Does mere boastfulness of self acclaimed success justify wanton killing of persons? I suppose Igbo pride made the colonial powers to subjugate the Igbo nation; it cost us Biafra because the white folks could not tolerate our self confidence and pride. Every Igbo related post in nl points to Igbo boastfulness and arrogance.

Some posts are mere manifestation of stupidity and ignorance. It is either we are a country or we are not! Everyone is free to live (legally) in every part of the globe. Why can't Nigerian live and work freely in any part of the country? What does the constitution say? Some communities are burying their dead, not out of natural disaster, but hacked down by fellow Nigerians who adduce unclear motives. This is food for thought for every enlightened mind irrespective of tribe.

@ poster

I guess you are enjoying the many pages your post has generated. Don't beat your chest yet in self congratulation. Nigeria's woes are hydra headed. Looking through a crystal ball into the future of the country is worrisome indeed. I fear our dear country. History has an ugly way of repeating itself if issues of previous events are not addressed. When we tell lies to masquerade reality, we make ourselves principal actors in a tragic drama sketch.

So all you saw was Igbo boastfulness and arrogance
Are you using binoculars to read rather than the right eye glasses?

By the way, I do not delight in driving a wedge between the Yorubas and others. I just need to set the record straight.
I never said Yorubas are not close to Nupe, have I?

oduasolja:
look at this silly guy.

i guess u delight in trying to drive a wedge between the yorubas and others. well , let me tell u something, we the yorubas dont care.

we have our land, you lot have yours .


[size=16pt]edo is not related to yoruba , we know that already , we just live close to each other and have had relations for a long time.  end of story. [/size]

We are not irrational dummies like you igbos that think that once a group lives close to you,, u can claim them as siblings and then ofcourse u can claim thier land and resources as ur own. buhahhhahhahahahahahahahaa.

imagine an igbo man trying to claim ijaw as sibling, or one and the same , when the two languages are not even mutually intelligible.

If you know that, then why all these Edos are our brothers when in reality their closest brothers are in the East?

Is it Yoruba propaganda or brainwashing?

^^^

Move over because you are neither Yoruba nor Bini.

[quote author=edo.girl link=topic=862912.msg10119403#msg10119403 date=1328359231]there's historical connection with binis, but in honesty, today, an average edo can't understand a word of yoruba, and i would agree that the average edo person sees himself as closer in many ways than one, to some1 from warri, sapele, or even asaba than someone from oshogbo. whether you can stretch it further & say an edo person feels close to someone from owerri than a yoruba person, i doubt, but i coould be wrong. ofcourse, there are people in edo state, other than binis, who feel closer to igbos. yoruba language degradation amongst hitherto 'yoruba' folks is edo state is a key factor. not sure if it was ogbemudia or someone wlse who 'banned' the teaching of yoruba language in those parts in the 70s. the result is that only the elderly & those born before that era can speak yoruba. the younger ones now speak the local dialect and pidgin only.[/quote]This is a fact. The so called link was Oduduwa and that was it. Nothing relates the Yoruba to Edos.

Today, Edo is must closer to Igbo culturally, linguistically and appearance than Yoruba.

Nchara:
All SW states are listed as financially dead or dying
We all read the news here
Anambra and Abia are among the 6 viable states
Imo is somewhat viable
Only Ebonyi is/could be in real trouble in the SE

It's because they have huge State IGR and unmanageable recurrent expenditure with no industries.

Well their state governments will have to keep them employed else . . .

alj harem:
even with evidence you still think say easterners turst me you are just delusional

SE contributes only half for what SW contributes

SS is the highest because of Oil.

Well good luck, I never intended to change your mind anyway

I just wanted to show you the mirror tht is all

What evidence State IGR

Well read my posts
Bring a list of Bankrupt states.

Obiagu1:
When they see State IGR, the think they contribute to Nigeria. LMAO!
This is why they are all subsidy beggars. Civil service States are the worst hit in any economic change in the country.

That is parasitism for those States that have no industry and a huge IGR.

Let me analyse it for Alh. Harem, when a state in Nigeria with no industries has a huge IGR, it means that the state government is the largest employer of labour, hence will have a huge recurrent expenditure. This means that the state is as close to bankruptcy as a church rat.

@ Alh,

Have you moved from State IGR to individuals?  LMAO!

You're just grasping at straws.
SW contributes NOTHING to Nigeria.

Easterners contribute the largest and the bulk of revenue earner, oil.
Easterners contribute the second largest, which is custom and excise duties.

Over to you.

Nchara:
The guy you are responding to is a stark illiterate.
Even with the bigger populatin, how many people are working in kano and paying taxes compared to Rivers?
Most are illiterate, the women wont even be allowed to work.

When they see State IGR, the think they contribute to Nigeria. LMAO!
This is why they are all subsidy beggars. Civil service States are the worst hit in any economic change in the country.

That is parasitism for those States that have no industry and a huge IGR.

Let me analyse it for Alh. Harem, when a state in Nigeria with no industries has a huge IGR, it means that the state government is the largest employer of labour, hence will have a huge recurrent expenditure. This means that the state is as close to bankruptcy as a church rat.

^^^

Olodo, read the posts above yours.

[quote author=Rhino.4dm link=topic=862653.msg10119044#msg10119044 date=1328355732]Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha . . .  so, Rivers state is having more civil servants than kano?? You got jokes![/quote]River states has more civil servants than Kano; civil servants does not mean only those that work with the government.
Rivers States employs more people than Kano because of concentration of oil industry in the state.

@ Alh Harem,

State IGR has nothing to contribute to Nigeria.
It's a reflection of the number of civil servants in a state as a chunk of State IGR is from PAYE.

This falsehood has being propagated unabated for years and everyone assumes it is true.
When it comes to culture, Yoruba culture is not closer to that of Binis than Igbo is.
When it comes to language, Yoruba language is not closer to Bini language more than Igbo is.
When it comes to physical appearance of the Edo people, they do not in any way look like the Yorubas.

Then how did this myth originate?

Logic Mind:
as SE does not contribute anything to nigeria, can they be allowed to go and form their own country?

Olodo, if Nigeria stops producing oil today, the largest revenue earner for the government comes from the contribution of Easterners, custom and excise duties. What does that tell you?

Easterners contribute the largest and the bulk of revenue earner, oil.
Easterners contribute the second largest, which is custom and excise duties.

Then what does the SW contribute?

If you want to know what the East (SE/SS) contribute to Nigeria, walk around Abuja and appreciate her beauty, ask the FCT minister to furnish you the list of home owners in that beautiful city, when you're done going through it, then you will thank the East for providing you a place to live.

If you're not happy and ask why only Abuja, then go to your village and ask you need a house to rent and you don't want to rent from the natives, more than 99% damn houses that will pop up belong to Easterners.


Then the question reverts to, what does the SW contribute to Nigeria?
Answer: NOTHING!

Link: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-859996.0.html

Cocoa never served the Eastern Region as we have coal and palm oil.

^^^

Ok oo!
The so called Yoruba and Benin affinity is a mere fairytale.

The truth is that Yoruba is never, in any sense, closer to the Binis than their Eastern neighbours.

All they talk about is Oduduwa this, Oduduwa that; the same Oduduwa that was forced to speak only Yoruba language hence lost every Bini in him. Glad Oba of Benin was clever to refuse giving up his language and face the same fate Oduduwa faced.

jason123:
@Obiagu and co

I decided not to reply initially because it is not in my place to talk about who is more related to Yoruba or Benin or relative affinity; and hence, derail the topic but it seems you guys are real piss takers.

Okay, in Anioma we have Olukumis, Ugbodu* (not sure of the spelling) who speak Yoruba. Most of the so called Delta Ibos are actually Edos or Yorubas who picked up Igbo language simply because of trade and migration of Igbos from Eastern river Niger. Also, the Ikas and co would tell you they are from Benin. . . . I'll stop here . . .

Both that does not answer the question. Do Yorubas have closer culture and language to the Binis than Anioma Igbos? Yes or No.

Onlytruth:
^But jason answer the question na.
Is Anioma Igbo not closer to Edo linguistically than Yoruba would ever be?

My brother leave am, I knew he would sidestep it.   

jason123:
^^^
Guy, I am not ready to fall for your trap.

LMAO!


. . . because Yoruba is not close to Bini culturally. The only link is Oduduwa, that's all; but when Yoruba people talk, you'll think that Bini is not separable from them culturally.

jason123:
I am not ready to go petty.

Ok, language nko?

jason123:
That is why I agreed with Niger_d. No one should be forced to learn any language. That was wrong. But the language thing was not the main issue that cause the split. It was more political that cultural or economical as some would want ignoramuses to believe.

Does Yoruba have a closer culture to the Binis than Delta Igbos?