₦airaland Forum

this post is a reply to one earlier made with regards to Nigeria owning a marine unit. Yes, the country had a standing marine unit during the civil war (the 3rd marine commando division). But that division was later transformed to the present 3rd armoured division currently headquartered in jos. all the amphibious battalions we currently have (Port Harcourt and Calabar) are all subunits of 82 division, as it is the country's specialized div.

With regards to having a new marine force, I don't think it's necessary. What we need to do is focus on the amphibious battalions we have. We need to provide them with additional patrol boats, fast attack crafts, landing crafts, hovercrafts, communication kits, and body armour. We also need to provide the airforce units that support these battalions with more attack and transport helicopters as they come in very handy during patrols and combat insertion and extraction. We also need maritime recon assets like more fixed wing aircrafts and unmanned arial vehicles (UAVs). But what we need mostly is a change in our training doctrine. That means we need more training in counter-insurgency warfare, river-rine patrols, counter-terror ops, recon and surveillance, urban terrain ops, and direct action. We also need more officers and NCOs that can think on their feet and outside the box.

Now, the Nigerian military has actually acquired some of these assets. These include maritime patrol aircrafts (2 ATR-48s & 2 A-109s) for the airforce and navy respectively, and a high tech surveillance system that includes two UAVs from Israel for the navy, and two unmanned seaborne vehicles for the navy (also isreali). The establishment of new special operations units in the army, navy, and police also marks a change in thinking within the military. However, a lot still needs to be done.

AFTER READING THE RESPONSES OF SO MANY POSTERS ON THIS THREAD, I CANT HELP BEING FORCED TO REACT TO SO MANY HALF-TRUTHS AND MISINFORMATION PEOPLE WHO ARE IGNORANT ON ISSUES MAKE. IT WILL PAY EVERYBODY TO ALWAYS CONDUCT A LITTLE RESEARCH FROM PEOPLE THAT KNOW, OR BETTER STILL, THE PROFESSION INVOLVED, BEFORE MAKING WRONG AND IRRELEVANT COMMENTS. FOR THE PURPOSE OF CLARITY AND EDUCATION, I WOULD MAKE SOME POINTS CLEAR, WITHOUT ANY BIAS.

FIRST OF ALL, AS A REGULAR COMBATANT NAVAL OFFICER WHO PASSED THROUGH THE PRESTIGIOUS NDA, I KNOW THAT AM VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT AM BEING PAID [b]RIGHT NOW!!. DO YOU GET EMPLOYED JUST TO GET RICH OR TO MAKE A GOOD, DECENT AND COMFORTABLE LIVING? WHATEVER YOUR ANSWER IS PUTS YOU IN THE REQUIRED CATEGORY. BUT I MUST TELL You THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MEASURE UP, AND EVEN BETTER, THAN SOME OF MY NUMEROUS CIVILIAN CONTEMPORARIES WORKING IN OTHER SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY, EVEN THE OIL AND GAS. ITS UP TO YOU TO MAKE YOUR DECISION ON THAT. OUR PAY HAS BEEN GREATLY CONSOLIDATED RECENTLY AND EVERYBODY IS HAPPY AND APPRECIATIVE. IT MAY INTEREST YOU TO FIND OUT AND FEEL THE PULSE OF A MILITARY FRIEND, IF YOU HAVE ONE.

SECONDLY, I MUST AGREE WITH YOU THAT FAMILY ISSUES IS REALLY A PROBLEM IN THE MILITARY, IN TERMS OF OUT-STATION POSTINGS. HOWEVER, I MUST SAY THAT SOME POSTERS HAVE OVER EXAGGERATED THIS FACT. THERE IS HARDLY NO PROFESSION IN THE WORLD THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE SOME OCCASSIONAL SEPARATION FROM FAMILIES. THIS COULD BE IN FORM OF COURSES, BUSINESS TRIPS, INTERVIEWS, PROMOTION-RELATED APPOINTMENTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AMONGST OTHERS. IT IS NOT PECULIAR TO THE MILITARY ALONE. BUT THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE A WAY OUT, AT LEAST TO CURTAIL IT TO THE BAREST MINIMUM.

IN MY OWN CASE AS A NAVAL OFFICER, I STATIONED MY FAMILY IN LAGOS. THIS IS BECAUSE LAGOS HAS THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF NAVAL ESTABLISHMENTS (ABOUT 90%). SO THERE IS ALWAYS A 90% CHANCE THAT ALL MY APPOINTMENTS WOULD BE IN LAGOS WHERE MY FAMILY IS LOCATED. IT IS NOT A RULE OF THE THUMB, BUT IT HAS WORKED FOR ME SO FAR. IT WOULD ALWAYS WORK IF YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH AND APPRECIATION WELL. HOWEVER, IF ONE IS APPOINTED OUTSIDE YOUR LOCATION, YOUR FAMILY DO NOT HAVE TO GO WITH You. YOU DONT HAVE TO DISRUPT YOUR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION OR YOUR SPOUSE'S EMPLOYMENT OR BUSINESS BY MOVING THEM WITH YOU. YOUR ABSENCE WOULDNT LAST FOREVER, AT MOST 24 MONTHS YOU SHOULD BE BACK. MOREOVER THERE ARE INTERMITTENT PERIODS OF ANNUAL AND COMPASSIONATE LEAVE AND PASSES TO CUSHION THE EFFECT, AND EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.

I WILL ALSO WANT TO REACT ON THE 'CONTROVERSIAL' AND THE MUCH TOUTED CAR 'GIFT' GIVEN TO MILITARY OFFICERS BY THE FORMER PRESIDENT. FOR AVOIDANCE OF DOUBT, IT IS NOT A GIFT, IT IS A LOAN AND WE ARE PAYING DEARLY FOR IT MONTHLY, FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. YOU WOULDNT BELIEVE HOW MUCH I LOSE MONTHLY ON THE ACCOUNT OF THAT. HOWEVER AM NOT COMPLAINING BECAUSE IT WAS OPTIONAL FROM THE ONSET, IT WASNT COMPULSORY AND YOU HAD THE RIGHT TO REJECT IT. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WHO DID NOT COLLECT. SOME WHO WERE ENTITLED TO A HIGHER BRAND OF CAR OPTED FOR A LOWER CATEGORY DUE TO REPAYMENT BURDEN. SO NAIRALANDERS, BE BETTER INFORMED.

FURTHERMORE, TALKING ABOUT DEATH AND DYING, I DONT THINK THERE IS A PROFESSION THAT DOES NOT HAVE A MEASURE OF RISK THAT IS GRAVE ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH. EVEN SLEEPING IS RISKY BECAUSE ONE CAN DIE OF IDLENESS AND INACTIVITY. PLEASE BE MORE POSITIVE TO LIFE. IF ITS NOT YOUR TIME, EVEN IF A BULLET SPILLS OUT YOUR BRAINS, GOD CAN WORK A MIRACLE THROUGH A ROADSIDE CHEMIST (DRUG SELLER) AND YOU WOULD BE BACK ON YOUR FEET AGAIN. YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO BE RUSHED TO ST NICHOLAS, HAVANA OR EKO HOSPITALS. IF YOU ARE A BANKER, HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF AN ARMED ROBBER BREAKS IN, OR EVEN ON YOUR WAY HOME IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU CLOSE LATE? IF You ARE IN THE OIL AND GAS SECTOR AND WORKING IN THE NIGER DELTA, DO You KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION OFFSHORE ON THE RIG OR IF THE MILITANTS DECIDES TO PAY A VISIT TO YOUR FLOW STATION? AFTERALL SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO DIED DURING 9/11 AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTRE WERE IN THEIR OFFICES. TO EVERY PROFESSION OR JOB, THERE IS AN OCCUPATIONAL HAZARD CAPABLE OF KILLING SOMEONE UNEXPECTEDLY, NO ONE IS SAFER. I SERVED IN ECOMOG FOR ALMOST A YEAR AND CAME BACK SAFELY. I HAVE BEEN SERVING IN THE NIGER DELTA FOR THE PAST 18 MONTHS, YET SOME PEOPLE CAME AND DIED WITHIN 3 WEEKS. I AM NOT BETTER, WISER OR STRONGER THAN THEM IN ANY WAY BUT AM ALIVE TODAY BY THE GRACE OF GOD. SO POSSIBILITY OF DEATH IS A FLIMSY EXCUSE TO RUN AWAY FROM THE MILITARY. LETS HAVE A MUCH POSITIVE OUTLOOK TO LIFE AND KNOW THAT WHEREVER WE ARE, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

ON A FINAL NOTE, I MUST TRUTHFULLY ASSERT THAT THE MILITARY IS A NOBLE PROFESSION AND GONE ARE THOSE DAYS WHEN ONLY DROP OUTS, MEDIOCRES AND USELESS PEOPLE ARE FOUND THEREIN. INFACT NOWADAYS YOU CANT EVEN SURVIVE THE WIND OF CHANGE IF YOU ARE ONE. IN THE NIGERIAN ARMED FORCES, WE HAVE FIRST CLASS BRAINS, SKILLFULL ENGINEERS, BRILLANT DOCTORS, ERUDITE TACTICIANS, DAZZLING ACADEMICIANS, TALENTED NAVIGATORS, TESTED PILOTS, MAGNIFICIENT MARKSMEN, SUPERP MEN AND WOMEN OF NOBLE CHARACTER AND DISPOSITION. I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON. IN ANOTHER VEIN, BEING A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN THAT WE ARE FAILURES WHERE EVEN THE MOST ADVANCED MILITARIES ARE LACKING. AS AN INSIDER, IT WOULD BE THE MOST UNFAIR COMPARISON TO MAKE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INTIMIDATING BIOGRAPHIES AND FEATS OF THE GENERALS AGWAI, KHOBE AND ADMIRALS OMBU, BOB-MANUEL, ISAH, AMAUCHE OF THIS WORLD, You WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PLACE WHERE NOBLE MEN TREAD. WELL, EXCUSES TO ALMIGHTY QUOTA SYSTEM AND GEOPOLITICS OF THE NIGERIAN NATION WHICH HAVE REALLY DEVASTATED THE STRUCTURES OF OUR NATION AND RELEGATED HARDWORK AND MERIT TO THE BACKGROUND. WHATEVER THE CASE, THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ALL TAKE OUR DESTINIES INTO OUR HAND AND UNLEARN ALL THE NEGATIVE ATTRIBUTES WE HAVE INCULCATED OVER TIME FOR THE PURPOSE OF A BETTER FUTURE. WITH THIS IN LINE, EVERY ASPECT OF OUR NATIONAL LIFE, INCLUDING THE ARMED FORCES, WOULD BE BETTER FOR IT.

I HOPE SOMEBODY IS EDUCATED AND BETTER INFORMED BY MY INPUT.

@POSTER
PLS GO AHEAD, JOIN US AND SERVE YOUR FATHERLAND. YOU ARE ON A RIGHT COURSE AND YOU WONT REGRET IT. YOU COULD GET RICH IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE MANY OFFICERS AND MEN ARE INDEED RICH, IF THAT IS WHAT You DESIRE IN A PROFESSION BUT DONT BE OVERAMBITIOUS. YOU COULD GET HURT AND BURN YOUR FINGERS BIG TIME!!!!
YOU ARE MOST WELCOME ON BOARD A NOBLE PROFESSION MY BROTHER!!
ONE LOVE.[/b]



@ V/Admiral
RESPECT.

My God,

I'm glad to see that we still have a number of Nigerians that still believe in our beloved country when it needs us the most.My respect.

I know this a%#holes. Back home in PH, they attcked my former place of work (AGIP) a few years ago and killed about 7-8 mobile police men, and a civilian (or 2),including my uncle and a friend of mine. I hope they're found and skinned alive,

It's a real pity that some people on this thread, including the creator sango, have no faith in their fellow country men.Yes Nigeria's had bad times and we still have a lot of problems like the high unemployment rate,corruption,etc due to the greed, lack of planning and direction of our former leaders.But there are also a lot of Nigerian men and women that have proven themselves to be excellent leaders in both the public and private sectors. There're also thousands of Nigerians that are currently working so hard to develop the country (unlike the fools i mentioned earlier ), and their actions are slowly paying off.For example:

- The country's economy is witnessing a steady growth of about 7%.

- We have arguably the fastest growing financial and telecommunications sectors in Africa.

-In the past years, Nigeria was rated among the top 10 most corrupt countries in the world. But now, it is presently not even among the 20 countries on Transarency International's list (doubt it? check their website). It proves that we are on the right track.

-We're presently listed among the 11 economies to watch out for.

We're still not out of the woods yet, but at least we've begun to get things right (including our leaders) and we'll make it.

I think the answer is a no-brainer.It's definitely Nigeria.I guess i'm a bit biased,

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Well, i don't care about the ethnicity of our next president should.I just want him/her to:

- View himself/herself first and foremost as a Nigerian. The ethnic group comes later.
- He/She must be a strong and competent leader.

I'm so glad that we Nigerians get to travel far and wide.Like someone said on this thread, we love the adventure, and i must say that we tend to do quite well in these places.Well, i'm currently living in the Uk and it's great up here,`though a bit too cold. But i would really love to visit a country that's more exotic like Malaysia, Australia (the land down under ),even India (i would like to see the Taj Mahal).

Quote from: RichyBlacK on Yesterday at 10:35:12 PM
You see yourself? Dem say make we shut up, some mumu like me, ocelot2006, 4 Play, etc start to talk. You sef open mouth shout "shut up!". You don join us be that! Na all of us go go nil dan, hans up, close eye, until tisha come back. No be so?










You Nairalanders would not kill me here.I dey enjoy una gist dey go oooooooooooo.No Mind me Jare

@ RichyBlacK

Thanks for backing me up, and putting that slowpoke 4play/4mumu in his place.Please educate the boy.Cheers mate

What an ignoramus,what do you know a "terror cell" means?

Talking of terror organisations,I mentioned some in my second post.Zarqawi's Jama'at al-Tawhid(later to be known as alqaeda in Iraq) and Ansar Al-I'slam were to 2 of the biggest groups operating in Iraq before the invasion.The latter was famous for bombing the UN building while the former needs no introduction.

These were by no means the only 2.

Even terrorists like Abdul Rahman Yasin who conducted the 1st WTC bombing in New York in 1993,in collaboration with alqaeda heavyweights like Khalid Sheik Mohhamed were living comfortably under the shelter of Saddam and someone is claiming there were no terrorists

Don't make dishonest claims that you picked up from lefties with an axe to grind.Learn to acquire the facts before making a fool of yourself.


Now you've shown your stupidity and ignorance.Zarqawi's Jama'at al-Tawhid or any other terror cell/group/whatever were NEVER in Iraq before the war began and there was no link between Saddam and Al-qaeda .The only group in the country was the Fedayeen and they were a paramilitary group.Next time, get your facts straight.

@ bawomolo

We're on the same page.You're right, the Fedayeen was a militant/paramilitary group, and they were not members of al-qaeda.`sorry bro.

there were militants operating in iraq before the invasion. they just weren't members of al qaeda.

If you mean the Fedayeen, then you're wrong.It were basically a paramilitary group made up of volunteers from other Arab coutries and it was formed just before the war started.

Sadly, there are many like you who joyfully exclaim at every fatality, every tragedy, using such gory pictures of human suffering to exclaim to all and sundry 'i told you so'. Such people couldn't care less about the Iraqi people, mouthing empty platitudes while using the upwardly spiraling body count to justify their sage-like status.

Such people are no different from George W Bush.

Let's get one thing clear, i DO NOT enjoy the killing of innocent men,women,and children that's going on there. But i Do NOT have a single iota of pity for those who created this mess.Before the war, everybody begged them not to carry out their actions, and the UN refused to support any military action against Iraq.But what did we get in return?They basically spat on our faces.Even FOX news took it a step further by insulting all countries that refused to support the war (Nigeria included).So you'll forgive me if i'm out of sympathy.

My only wish is that they should be in Iraq to witness what they've caused.And i also hope an IED goes off on them.

What blissful ignorance.

I'm sorry, i guess i was wrong,Mr knowitall?So please, list out all the terror cells based in iraq before the 2nd gulf war.If you can't, STFU!

I guess the truth hurts.Oh well,just make sure you guys clean up the mess that your moronic president created while i sit hear and joyfully sing my "I TOLD YOU SO" song.

Hey, what's with the insult?

[b]One of the key points from that lady's statement is that Iraq is worse off now than it was under Sadaam and that to me has no justification. Children can't go out to play anymore, you can't go out to the marketplace without being scared for your life, thats a horrible environment to live in.

Lets stop all these stuff about the war in Iraq being used to curb terrorism. Its a fact that the war has made Iraq a terrorist breeding ground. I'm not saying there were no terrorists there before but their activities were contained now its free for all.

We keep talking about US and coalition casualties, do we ever consider the Iraqis? Those figures would never be released because it would reveal Bush to be a mass murderer even worse than Sadaam.

The purpose of the war has changed so much like the weather but one of them was to liberate the people. People are living in fear more than ever before those that can flee are doing so in huge numbers. Iraqis themselves are already losing hope that there would be any end to the conflict.

Bush should be hung, he made a mistake that has destroyed millions of lives and ultimately a nation. Lets pray nothing like this happens in our own country. If I had to choose between Abacha ruling us for the rest of his evil days and the situation in Iraq right now, I would go for Abacha anyday.[/b]

i agree with you that Iraq's a breeding ground for terrorist.But the country never had any b4 the invasion.

I wonda where u get your figures from.>>I would also like to let u know that hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths recorded in Iraq were carried out by the insurgents.How do u explain a situation whereby guerillas resort to killing civilians rather than the actual soldiers whom they r supposed to b @ war with.

Till date,America has lost a little ova 2000 soldiers and I stand to be disproved!!

Make that

U.S troops KIA- 3000+ and counting
Iraqis KIA- 600,000+ and counting
Iraqis displaced- 1,000,000+ and counting

Much as i feel for the American Soldiers involved in Iraq,I beg to differ with Anti Bush Sentimentalists { Afam in particular}.It would amount to suicide in monumental proportions if Bush were to pull his troops out of Iraq @ this point.I get to see the havoc wreaked ny these terrorists in Iraq every day and i daresay that the American army is doing one hell of a job in containing the menace.


Maybe if he had listened when the world begged/pleaded/warned him not to go war, all this mess wouldn't have happened.All the same, i don't have a single drop of pity for any of the pro-war Americans,except for the Innocent Iraqis who now have to live in fear.

they should definitely do a movie called 'Blood oil" because thats the reason for the war in IRAQ

LOL!Nice one

[b]From an Angry Soldier

I'm having the worst damn week of my whole damn life so I'm going to write this while I'm pissed off enough to do it right.

I am SICK of all this bullshit people are writing about the Iraq war. I am abso-fucking-lutely sick to death of it. What the mess do most of you know about it? You watch it on TV and read the commentaries in the newspaper or Newsweek or whatever god damn yuppie news rag you subscribe to and think you're all such fucking experts that you can scream at each other like five year old about whether you're right or not. Let me tell you something: unless you've been there, you don't know a god damn thing about it. It you haven't been shot at in that fucking hell hole, SHUT THE Bleep UP!

How do I dare say this to you moronic war supporters who are "Supporting our Troops" and waving the flag and all that happy horse shit? I'll tell you why. I'm a Marine and I served my tour in Iraq. My husband, also a Marine, served several. I left the service six months ago because I got pregnant while he was home on leave and three days ago I get a visit from two men in uniform who hand me a letter and tell me my husband died in that fucking festering sand-pit. He should have been home a month ago but they extended his tour and now he's coming home in a box.

You fuckers and that god-damn lying sack of shit they call a president are the reason my husband will never see his baby and my kid will never meet his dad.

And you know what the most bleeped up thing about this Iraq shit is? They don't want us there. They're not happy we came and they want us out NOW. We bleeped up their lives even worse than they already were and they're pissed off. We didn't help them and we're not helping them now. That's what our soldiers are dying for.

Oh while I'm good and worked up, the government doesn't even have the decency to help out the soldiers whose lives they ruined. If you really believe the military and the government had no idea the veterans' hospitals were so bleeped up, you are a god-damn retard. They don't care about us. We're disposable. We're numbers on a page and they'd rather forget we exist so they don't have to be reminded about the families and lives they ruined while they're sipping their cocktails at another fund raiser dinner. If they were really concerned about supporting the troops, they'd bring them home so their families wouldn't have to cry at a graveside and explain to their children why mommy or daddy isn't coming home. Because you can't explain it. We're not fighting for our country, we're not fighting for the good of Iraq's people, we're fighting for Bush's personal agenda. Patriotism my ass. You know what? My dad served in Vietnam and NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

So I'm pissed. I'm beyond pissed. And I'm going to go to my husband funeral and receive that flag and hang it up on the wall for my baby to see when he's older. But I'm not going to tell him that his father died for the stupidity of the American government. I'm going to tell him that his father was a hero and the best man I ever met and that he loved his country enough to die for it, because that's all true and nothing will be solved by telling my son that his father was sent to die by people who didn't care about him at all.

Bleep you, war supporters, George W. Bush, and all the god damn mother fuckers who made the war possible. I hope you burn in hell.[/b]


AMEN TO THAT !!!

I have to agree with almost everyone here.Bush happens to be one of- if not the- most incompetent president in the history of the United states.Thanks to him and his fellow neo-cons, iraq and the middle-east as a whole is in a big mess,the US has far more enemies than friends, and the world is far less safe because he's the very best reason Al-qaeda's having a recruitment boom.The funny thing is that although the US currently owes China trillions of dollars in debt, he still goes on to borrow more.And to do what?That's right;he pours in more many into defence and the wars in afghanistan and iraq,while the health service, education, and other infrastructures are rotting away.

I still can't believe that the population voted TWICE for him .But hey,it's their country going down the drain, not mine.

I heard the story of the vehicles bought by the police equipment fund. What i read was that the IG gave the order to sieze all 400 vehicles as some other govt. parastatals wanted to lay their hands on them.no helicopters are missing.so please, double-check your post.

As someone who hails from the Niger-Delta, i know that what's happening i.e the kidnappings etc, is a fallout of what we, especially the poor ones living in the creeks have gone through.But i lost all respect for MEND and other militant groups when they began to kidnap children just for money, terrorise innocent civilians, and most of all, kill innocent people (including a very close member of my family).

I don't also buy all that bullshit of fighting for us, `cos if you know just how much they've been given, you wouldn't be heaping so much praise on them.You only had to go to PH -that's b4 JTF came into town- to see how those piece of s%*$e spent money they had gotten on behalf of the niger-delta people - buying nice cars, and blowing the rest on hookers,and of course guns.Boy am i glad that Def HQ gave the kill order.

All the same, i really hope that the Govt (federal,state,local) do more in improving the standard of living in the Niger-delta.The oil companies should also be made to carry out their social responsibilities.But MEND and the rest?Well, they're dead meat.

One more thing, the Mi-28N night hunter is already in service.

Earlier I used the term hungry and genuine in respect of Egbesu boys , these guys are intelligent and not stupid why are they allowing the Ibori’s, Odili’s, Alamieyeseigha ,etc, etc past and present to steal public money without a response from themselves in kind.

In reality every public official in the Delta should have great apprehension if not outright dread and fear. Knowing that reprisal of instant justice at the hands of the Egbesu Boys, will be swift and hard, forget EFCC .

Right, Now i know that you've not been in the country for quite sometime. Egbesu boys were basically low-life thieves (believe me, no body lost any sleep over them) that robbed boats in the creeks.But the police cracked down on them a long time ago and they're gone.However,i'll admit that what replaced them was far more dangerous, thanks to the politicians that armed them. Before sept 2007,the people in PH lived in absolute fear.almost every day,there were gunshots and people were killed.The police, well, they simply couldn't do jack, and a%#holes like soboma george and ateke ruled.But things changed when they really crossed the line and JTF was called in.Ever since then, they've been hiding in the creeks, while the JTF are busy hunting them down and everything's back to normal.

The EFCC? Now that's the one agency that i, & i believe a lot of Nigerians, have lots of respect for. Every public office holder now knows that the fear of EFCC is the beginning of wisdom.But that's another story.Back to the topic

Earlier I used the term hungry and genuine in respect of Egbesu boys , these guys are intelligent and not stupid why are they allowing the Ibori’s, Odili’s, Alamieyeseigha ,etc, etc past and present to steal public money without a response from themselves in kind.

In reality every public official in the Delta should have great apprehension if not outright dread and fear. Knowing that reprisal of instant justice at the hands of the Egbesu Boys, will be swift and hard, forget EFCC .

As they say charity begins at home, “lets deal with the thief weh deh house with us before we go find de ones for Abuja”. Kidnapping innocent oil workers does not give this struggle credibility, na them thief our money

The Mil 35 may match the Apache for speed but not for manoeuvrability and outright precision stealth and firepower, these things like a ghost you don’t know about it until your hit, this things have cut up a Migs in dog fight, (Iraq war). The night fighting capability and low level flying capability is unmatched. Maybe the Mi-28N (Night Hunter) in few years to come may contend but for now it’s the Apache. Nonetheless, I know the Mil 35 is a lot cheaper, consequently best value may give the Mil 35 some edge.
The probability exists however,for competitive tendering and the US is our main oil importer, and if Obama wins I’m sure they’ll cut us a good juicy big burger deal.

Please recheck the apache's technical specifications.it was not designed to be stealthy.But i'll give you one thing, it's onboard array of hi-tech avionics. The apache is also able to engage about 6 targets at the same time, and the hellfire missile is definitely a very deadly and accurate one. However, i still would not choose because of it's high level of maintenance.you only have to go to the current conflict to in iraq and afghanistan to see that the environment alone is already exacting it's toll on that helicopter (at least at the begining).But it's different for the mi-35.

-That helicopter operates in harshest environments in this world

-it is basically a flying armoured tank. The apache can't boast of that.

-The amount of armaments it carries exceeds that of the apache

-it is very quite (believe me, i know), therefor can be used to sneak up behind the enemy. The mujahdeen still have night-mares about that chopper.

-it requires less manpower, and is easy to maintain. In combat that is very important.

- it can also serve as a multipurpose helicopter with it's ability to up to 7 soldiers in it's troop compartment.The apache can't boast of that.

-The mere fact that you're at the business end of that helicopter is enough to give your nightmares for a very long.it looks like a prehistoric predator.The worse thing is that its bite is far worse than its looks. So it's not a suprise that it is called satan's chariot, crocodile,flying tank.

yeah your very rite its really an L-39 trainer, am gettin rusty i should have looked properly @ where the wings met the fuselage, i made my wrong decision based on the power pack mounting, thanx for the correction.

No prob, bro.

Do we have an Army in Nigeria? Primary school question, answer:they are in the Niger Delta creeks selling arms to youths, were you not in this counrty when 2 naval shipps disappear from the Nigerian sea? you say where was the navy? Well, before you abuse me, I know the Nigerian Police is not Part of the army, but 2 of their own helicopter just disappeared too. Well the IG says he doesn,t know how it happened.


Sorry if I sound a bit off key.

HABA! Ok that's too much.For heaven's sake, who told you the Nigerian Police have misplaced their helicopters?What i know is that two helicopters (Mil-14s) were donated to them by the Ukrainians.Bros please don't post things you are not sure of.

The ships that dissapeared in the hands of the navy definitely soiled it's name and was felt throughout the military. That was why the top officers involved faced court-martial.