₦airaland Forum

@ Fhemmmy, the point u made on the presence of western troops limiting the bombs that got is simply BS. Their very presence is the main reason why Iraq's a mess. The reduction in the number of killings and suicide bombing was as a result of two things:

1- the emergence of the AWAKENING COUNCIL. This body is a collection of sunni insurgency groups that where initially responsible for a large number of US fatalities. However, they got tired of the killing of innocent civilians, and thus turned against their former ally al-qaeda.

2- IRAN. Iran, through it's military arm PASDARAN, Qud force, and intelligence agencies were responsible for the inflow of arms and IEDs to shia militia groups in iraq. They were also responsible for the EFP, a dreaded weapon used against US armoured vehicles with devastating effect. The iranians later chose to limit the inflow of weapons for a simple reason- they currently control/influence the govt of iraq. The last thing they need is an unstable iraq at its borders.

And another bomb goes off in Iraq. 'talk about 'competence' of western troops stationed there,

I take great offense in your last statement. Calling the military and institutional failure is simply an insult to the men and women who wear the uniform and serve our nation. It is also an insult to the memories of those that paid the ultimate price serving in our armed forces. And I believe our boys are far bigger and more mature than a bunch of ss3 secondary students.

Yes much is still desired from the military, they've had their dark moments especially during the military regimes, including the event in ogoni. These are moments that they're definitely not proud of. Even the US military that you so cherished has had its own dark times from operation phoenix during the vietnam war to the invasion of iraq (which has claimed thousands of innocent lives), abu-ghraib, and guantanomo base. Oh, and i haven't forgotten the detention facilities at kandahar airbase, the airstrikes that has claimed the lives of innocent civilians (u know, 'collateral damage'), and the mq-9 predator drone attacks in pakistan that also claimed the lives of not only civilians but a number of pakistani soldiers.

I may not agree with the heavy handed approach the military took in odi, but I understand why they were forced to take that actions. The towns youths were responsible for 2 ambushes, the first which claimed the lives of a number of mobile policemen (including an assistant commissioner of police), and a 2nd on the army units sent in to reinforce the police. That lead to the army's response.

But I TOTALLY support the actions of both the army's 2nd amphibious battalion and the 19th mobile police squadron in Choba. It was one operation that I followed from the very beginning to the end, and it was FULLY justified. In the raid on the wilbros engineering yard, a total of 13 people were killed, and ALL of them were among the group of people that siezed that yard. The town itself was a ghost town as people fled Choba as they knew that an attack was imminent (i personally drove down to UNIPORT to pick up my younger brother). No innocent person was killed.

By the way, what makes you think that the   military isn't learning new strategies on counter insurgency (COIN)? My own personal observation from the training given to middle ranked officers (colonels and equivalent) at the national war college abuja as shown that the Nigerian military, particularly those that formulate training policies at the Training & Doctrine (TRADOC) have actually begun to imbibe lessons learnt from operations undertaken both within and outside the country. That's why the military has begun to emphasis on doctrines like riverine patrols, intelligence gathering, special operations (recon, direct action, and hostage rescue), and joint operations with law enforcement and intelligence agencies like the police force, sss, and the NIA.

davidif:
Sorry for the loss of your Uncle but what you are trying to do is to portray the Nigerian army uniformly as good guys but we all know that generally they are not that good infact they have a reputation for being merciless and instead of defending the helpless and defenseless citizens they mistreat them. Just look at several check points in the country or whenever the army has been called in to restore order, they have been usually EXTREMELY heavy handed, using tactics that are unnecessary.

In world war 2, the americans fought guerrilla warfare against the japanese in the jungles of the pacific and they got the job done so please don't even compare a bunch of rag tag boys with hardly any millitary experience to more sophisticated soldiers. The problem with Afghanistan is that Afghanistan is is extremely HUGE and the terrain is very, VERY, VERY difficult (the niger delta is not like that) it easy for this guys to hide in caves or to sneak across the border and hide in Pakistan or Waziristan then lauch raids across the border.


Now back to the main issue, what i am trying to say is that those training dehumanizes these guys so that they act savagely. In the 20's and 30's when the japanese still had ambitions of world domination. They trained there soldier to be merciless, brutal and extremely ruthless so that when they invaded other countries they would unleash terror on them. An example was in China, when they invaded to annex manchuria, a mineral rich province, the terror they unleashed on this people was beyond genocide. Till today it is still called the "rape of nanking". The training the japanese soldiers had recieved dehumanized them and they looked at the chinese civillians as sub-human so they decided that hey if i was brutal tortured in millitary barracks, i would do much worse to you, my "enemies" so they unleashed hell on the civillian population on men, women and children. This can also be seen through the way, they dealt with American POW's. The Nigerian soldiers did almost the same thing (but not on that level) in sierra leone and Liberia. Also, lets not forget that recently, in Sudan, our "competent" boys were killed by the poorly trained supporter of APC.

I totally disagree with you on the last statement you made. Yes we lost brave soldeirs when the supporter of APC attacked the our base in Sudan, but do you really know what went on? During the period of that incident, there were a total of 7000 AU troops (Nigerian and Rwandan station) in country and they were tasked to protect an area roughly the size of FRANCE. That meant that the troops were stretched to the limit with various outposts placed at considerable long distances. Then there's the issue of the roads (or bush tracks) that are simply bad and tend to go worse when it rained. To make matters worse, there was just one helicopter (mi-17) within the country, and it is a utility helicopter. Overall, our boys had absolutely no air assets to call on for combat air support (CAS) and it took a considerable longer time for each outpost to be reinforced.

On the night the Nigerian outpost was attacked, our soldiers held their ground against an enemy that was not only numerically superior (10:1) but were armed technicals (pickups) with 50 cals mounted on them and RPGs. The only platform we had in that outpost to provide heavy firepower was ONE Grizzly APC. That was it. They had no combat air support, no reinforcement, and there's a limit to the ammo they carry. With all these stacked against our soldiers, what else do you think they could do? If you had a battalion of US marines in the same shoes as ours, do you think they would have done better?

Anyway, in my first post, I made a comparison between Iraq's terrain and that of the Niger-Delta, not Afghanstan. I know that Afghanistan terrain is extremely harsh and rugged, but that of Iraq is just one flat land. Our's is a maze of creeks and mangrove swamps that provides excellent cover for militants to hide their camps.

I do not deny that our boys can be harsh sometimes. Afterall, they are not saints. But most times, the military tend to keep to themselves and restrict themselves to their barracks unless being called upon. But the same military is the one that opens the gates of its barracks to provide shelter to innocent people in times of crisis. The 2007 crisis in Port Harcourt isn't the only example. Residents in the North (christians and muslims) ran to the military for security and refuge during the religious crisis, and the same occured during reprisal attacks in the South, especially in Rivers state. In the case of checkpoints, I personally have been subjected to a number of searches, but I can tell you that I was truely impressed with the way the soldiers handled themselves.

FL Gators:
Apart from health risk, what's it supposed to do?

How about detering them from not committing that offence, and sending a message to other cadets?

FL Gators:
You don't stand on your head during battle.

No, but you stand on your head when you commit an offence within the NDA.

FL Gators:
LOL, dude, you actually don't see any wrong in that?

Are you trying to recruit ppl. Make you stop am o

@Dafidi
Jo bami so fun o

Did I post any ad asking you to join the Nigerian military? It's not a must to join.

And no, I don't see anything wrong in their action. The NDA is NOT a summer camp or resort. It is a military institution created to produce officers that will lead men into battle, and part of that involves discipline. So if those actions instills discpipline among the cadets, then I'm all for it.

And with regards to WW1 and WW2, yes the Nigerian Regiment fought under the crown and was lead by British officers, and no they were not soley responsible for the overall success of the Burmese campaign. But they were successfull in every engagment they partook in. The then Nigerian Brigade was responsible for the capture of Mogadishu from the Italians in 1941 and also played a major role in the defeat of the Japanese in Burma through the recapture of the Maku peninsular and the subsequent capture of the port in Gwa. As a matter of fact, it was in Burma that the then 23 Nigeria Brigade was really feared as the tend to decapitate the heads of japanese soldiers during battles in the thick jungles of Burma and submit the heads to their british officers. This dealt a psychological blow to the Japanese fighting for their emperor as they felt that they would not be accepted in paradise with their heads missing. Some thought that we actually ate these heads .

By the way, less than a hundred soldiers? Huh, So, how many soldiers make up a regiment/brigade?

davidif:
Wow, where do i even begin to start on this one. Do you think that your Nigerian soldiers can win the war in Afghanistan or Iraq. If so why not send troops there and help relieve the US of there duties so that they can give you more aid money. Also, your assertions on winning the war in East Africa and Burma is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge joke. We were under the command of the british commanders and we were very small in number (less than hundred) so don't talk as if our boys went there and "won" the war (no be ordinary ECOMOG where them dey slaughter your boys and the fed. govt had to be lying about the body count because it was so embarassing). By the way, let's not forget that we won both World Wars.

Your assertions that the conflict in Iraq is less intense is incredibly ridiculous and YOU KNOW THAT. Do your MEND boys have RPG's or do they plant roadside bombs. Heck, didn't i see one of your guerilla's accidentally shoot himself. The boys that we face in Iraq were former soldiers in the iraqi army. In fact, some of them were members of Saddam's elite republican guard. Let's not also forget that the Iranians are partly funding the insurgency by supplying and training some of this fighters. Also, last time i checked, the violence in Iraq is leveling out since we kicked out Rumsfeld and the Iraqi's are about to take over because our job is almost done that's why the president is removing 20,000 troops from Iraq and sending them to Afghanistan. Yep, you hear of the occasional bombing but its just in certain parts of the country. Also, in case you didn't know we won the war (in just a couple of weeks), the only problem we've had was in securing the peace and that had to do with a cowardly enemy who hides in the civillian populace and some stupid blunders by the civillians (like paul bremer's decision to disband the iraqi police and army after the war, and Rumsfeld failure to send in an overwhelming amount of troops). But despite all this, we unlike your soldiers in naija have restrained ourselves to not randomly killing civillians indiscriminately, yes we made some mistakes because we are not perfect but you can't compare us to your war criminals that you call an army.

I strongly suggest that you go through my post again. Did I say that the Niger-Delta conflict and that of Iraq were of the same intensity? And speaking of intensity and one the issue of militants armed with RPGs, may be you've not been following the news. These guys are armed to the very teeth with RPGs, GPMGs, light arms like AK-47s and HK G-3s, and 50 cal machine guns mounted on some of their boats. And yes they have explosives, or how do you think they've been able to blow up pipelines and police stations? I've personally witness these guys operate TWICE within Port Harcourt (2007). The 1st one was at my old place of work were they killed a number of policemen and innocent civilians, one of the victims being my own uncle. In the 2nd, the city metropolise (close to the waterline) was under siege and so bad that Airforce gunships (Mi-35 Hinds) had to be called in. So IEDs/VBIEDs may not be going off with suicide bombers setting themselves up as in Iraq, but it was quite bad. Still, the military, when called in, performed excellently in later and did an excellent job in mop-up operations that followed clearing militants and cultists from their hideouts within the metropolis. The same military that you critize from the US were the same ones that civilians ran to for protection during that crisis. That army (along with the police) opened the gates of their barracks and provided shelter and security to innocent people. The very same army were the ones courteous during stop-and-search operations without asking for a single dime from anyone.

Anyway, the overall aim of my previous post was simply to make a point on the so called 'incompetence' of the Nigeria armed forces. The West (the US especially), with all the hi-tech gizmos and weaponry, couldn't stop the killings in Iraq and the technically inferior Taliban in Afghanistan, but I doubt you'll call them incompetent. Yet the Nigerian military, one that has limited platforms yet can boast of its own military successes, is seen as incompetent.


By the way, due to the sensitivity of the issue faced in the Niger-Delta, do you think that the military will go into the creeks with their guns blazing? Most times the military have always restrained their actions.

davidif:
That training dehumanizes them, that's why they act like animals. Look how they treat civillians as if they are sub-human. See how they handled the insurrection in the Niger Delta and in the North 2 weeks ago, they just went about shooting indiscriminately, THAT IS CALLED INCOMPETENCE.

The combined arm of US military (army, airforce,marine) along with the militaries of NATO-ISAF currently find it difficult to route the Taliban as the conflict there has escalated with more soldiers flown home in bady bags. Then there's Iraq that's been one big mess for a LONG time, `though things have calmed down a bit. These nations boast of the best military training, yet they can't defeat the enemies in these two countries. So I wonder what you'll call their failures. Yet the Nigerian military that you so happily look down on has won practically every major military engagement from the 1st World War in East Africa, the 2nd World War in the jungles of Burma, and our own civil war to the operations in Liberia and Sierre Leone. Compared to problems the US faces in Iraq, the conflict in the Niger-Delta definitely isn't intense, but the terrain (swamps) is far more unforgiven than the plain arid lands of Iraq.

For those complaining, I wonder how you'll explaining the training for these South-African Policemen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eFU_r_H_gg

@ AjanleKoko, having gone through this thread, I truely have to commend you for the various advices you've given. Please keep up the good work sir.

That said, pls I also wish to seek your advice on 2 issues, the 1st being securing a job in Nigeria. Like most posters on this thread, I graduated with B.Eng in Elect & Elect engineering. But I also graduated with an M.Sc in Wireless Communication Systems (UK) and I'm also about 2 graduate with a 2nd M.Sc in Management from a business school this year(UK). However, I've only had 2 years of work experience within the telecom field (vsat, terrestrial microwave radio installations, FOC/SOC, CATV) & I feel this may not be enough. What are my chances of getting a good job in any of the telco service providers? And will my limited experience limit me to only entry-level job?

Next issue is on the CCNA VOICE route. Do I also have 2 read the CVOICE material?

Thank you.














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10 TOP ECONOMIES IN AFRICA

http://www.clickafrique.com/Magazine/ST014/CP0000002788.aspx

1. South Africa
GDP: $ 467.6 billion Global Rank: 27
South Africa is a middle-income, emerging market with an abundant supply of natural resources; well-developed financial, legal, communications, energy, and transport sectors; a stock exchange that is 17th largest in the world; and modern infrastructure supporting an efficient distribution of goods to major urban centers throughout the region.

2. Egypt
GDP: $ 431.9 billion Global Rank: 29
Egypt is bisected by the highly fertile Nile valley, where most of its economic activity takes place. Since 2005, when the government reduced personal and corporate tax rates, reduced energy subsidies, and privatized several enterprises, the stock market boomed, and GDP grew about 5% per year in 2005-06, and topped 7% in 2007. The economy also experienced an increase in foreign direct investments. However, the subsidies have contributed to a sizeable budget deficit - roughly 7.5% of GDP in 2007 - and represent a significant drain on the economy.

3. Nigeria
GDP: $ 294.8 billion Global Rank: 40
Oil-rich Nigeria is virtually a mono-economy as demonstrated by its overdependence on the capital-intensive oil sector, which provides 20% of GDP, 95% of foreign exchange earnings, and about 80% of budgetary revenues. The largely subsistence agricultural sector has failed to keep up with rapid population growth and the country, once a large net exporter of food, now must import food. GDP rose strongly in 2007, based largely on increased oil exports and high global crude prices.

4. Algeria
GDP: $ 268.9 billion Global Rank: 42
The hydrocarbons sector is the backbone of the Algerian economy, accounting for roughly 60% of budget revenues, 30% of GDP, and over 95% of export earnings. Sustained high oil prices in recent years have helped improve Algeria's financial and macroeconomic indicators. Real GDP has risen due to higher oil output and increased government spending. The government's continued efforts to diversify the economy by attracting foreign and domestic investment outside the energy sector, however, has had little success in reducing high unemployment and improving living standards. Structural reform within the economy, such as development of the banking sector and the construction of infrastructure, moves ahead slowly hampered by corruption and bureaucratic resistance.

5. Morocco
GDP: $ 127 billion Global Rank: 60
The Moroccan Government's ongoing efforts to diversify the economy is being fustrated as Morocco's GDP growth rate slowed to 2.1% in 2007 as a result of a draught that severely reduced agricultural output and necessitated wheat imports at rising world prices. Continued dependence on foreign energy and Morocco's inability to develop small and medium size enterprises also contributed to the slowdown.

6. Sudan
GDP: $ 107.8 billion Global Rank: 62
Despite the ongoing Darfur conflict, Sudan's economy is booming on the back of increases in oil production, high oil prices, and large inflows of foreign direct investment. GDP growth registered more than 10% per year in 2006 and 2007. Agricultural production remains important, because it employs 80% of the work force and contributes a third of GDP. Since 1997, Sudan has been working with the IMF to implement macroeconomic reforms, including a managed float of the exchange rate. In January 2007, the government introduced a new currency, the Sudanese Pound, at an initial exchange rate of $1.00 equals 2 Sudanese Pounds.

7. Angola
GDP: $ 80.95 billion Global Rank: 72
Angola's high growth rate is driven by its oil sector, with record oil prices and rising petroleum production which, along with its supporting activities, contribute about 85% of GDP. Increased oil production supported growth averaging more than 15% per year from 2004 to 2007. Much of the country's infrastructure is still damaged or undeveloped from the 27-year-long civil war. The government is making use of lines of credit from China, Brazil, Portugal, Germany, Spain, and the EU to rebuild Angola's public infrastructure, and several large-scale projects were completed in 2006. Corruption, especially in the extractive sectors, and the negative effects of large inflows of foreign exchange, are major challenges facing Angola.

8. Libya
GDP: $ 78.79 billion Global Rank: 73
Libya depends primarily upon revenues from the oil sector, which contribute about 95% of export earnings, about one-quarter of GDP, and 60% of public sector wages. Libyan officials in the past five years have made progress on economic reforms as part of a broader campaign to reintegrate the country into the international fold. The removal of sanctions against Libya has helped attract more foreign direct investment, mostly in the energy sector. The non-oil manufacturing and construction sectors, which account for more than 20% of GDP, have expanded from processing mostly agricultural products to include the production of petrochemicals, iron, steel, and aluminum.

9. Tunisia
GDP: $ 77.16 billion Global Rank: 75
Tunisia has a diverse economy, with important agricultural, mining, tourism, and manufacturing sectors. Governmental control of economic affairs while still heavy has gradually lessened over the past decade with increasing privatization, simplification of the tax structure, and a prudent approach to debt.

Kenya
GDP: $ 57.65 billion Global Rank: 83
The regional hub for trade and finance in East Africa, Kenya has been hampered by corruption and by reliance upon several primary goods whose prices have remained low. Despite little effort by the Kibaki government to deal with the corruption scandals that rocked it in 2005 and 2006, the World Bank and IMF, and other donors, continue to lend the nation money. The scandals have not weighed down growth, with estimated real GDP growth at more than 6 percent in 2007.

`aint gonna happen.

Personally, I'm happy that Abuja is the nation's capital. Apart from the fact that Lagos gets decongested, Abuja is geographically situated at the very heart of Nigeria. Military-wise, Abuja's location gives it huge stategic advantage over Lagos.

FL Gators:
So standing on your head. . . . while your head is toughing the stone is training?

Training for. . . . ?

It's obvious from the pics that those guys were being punished as they're being kept in stressed positions. Besides, the punishment, apart from instilling discipline, conditions their bodies to withstand more pain and stress. That's why products of the Academy, along with those from the Army Depot (Zaira) are able to push themselves beyond physical and psychological limits that we civilians can't cross.

FL Gators:
https://www.nimdta.gov.uk/images/terratorial_army/military_training.jpg

This is military training, not the yeye pushups and dance moves those pix illustrates

Push-up is a basic exercise done in every military/paramilitary schools/academies all around the world. Besides, the pic I posted wasn't exactly about the push-up itself, but the fact that Desert Warfare training has been introduced into the NDA. That training, along with other specialized training from Jungle Warfare to Airborne was always left for the Infantry Training Centre, Jaji, where Army grads of the Academy are sent for more advanced infantry training. But the poster of this thread tries to make it look as if beasting/capital punishment makes up all/most of the training exercises that occurs within the NDA, and that is a BIG LIE. It's too bad that there are not much pics on the activities of the institution on the net. Those I've seen from parades, leadership classes, marksmanship to live fire excercises and battle-tactics are owned by a friend, and I can't post his pics without his consent.

Well, I guess we'll finish these bastards off once and for all.

The funny thing's that over here in the west (UK), they try to keep it simple when communicating either verbally or via text. Big grammars are left for academic journals and books. But Nigeria,

Boko Haram.Hmmmmmm.Now we'll get to finish the job once and for all.

Anyway, those that are in the best position to describe what happens within the walls of NDA are the officers of the Nigerian military. I guess we have a few here on nairaland.

FL Gators:
rotflmao. training ko.

davidif:
O fi won le, awon oni yeye.

I wonder how you'll describe the pic attaches:

I'm sure that those in that picture may have commited an offense or so, and we all know that the military comes down hard on that so as to instill discipline among the cadets/ future officers.

You guys are amazing. For heaven's sake that is the Nigeria Defense Academy, a military institution, NOT a holiday camp. Exercises like that are designed to instill discipline, weed out the weak, and is definitely not meant for whiners and sissies. If u don't like it, then go join the boys scout or other sissy groups, and leave the NDA alone.

@ Hanoobaba, why don't you build your own 'pangolo', and let's see how u perform? And what have you contributed to your country? Or u just sit @ home spewing trash.

And with respect to the obj-001, do u know that we produce basically all our small firearms (from the berreta 9mm & browning hi-power pistols to the FN-FAL & HK G3 rifles) to heavy weapons (GPMGs and 88mm mortars)? The production of the obj-001 introduces a rifle that is known for reliability, and it reduces our dependence on foreign powers for arms. And lets not forget that it's introduction creates a production line that leads to more jobs and a source of income for the nation.

Beaf:
Which goal be dat na?

US has made it quite obvious which countries they want to concentrate on in Africa. Nigeria is the biggest one.
All these guys thinking we can face the US wrath, better think again. We ain't Venezuella!

Obama is black like us and is tired of the rubbish coming out of Africa. We are going to witness the might of the US if anyone thinks there's a counter to Obama sending Hilary to do what she did. All the financial institutions of the world will sit up when America taps them up. All major world instituitions are headquartered in the US.
Someone said we should shift our trade to China instead. Not very wise. . . Nigeria has the best crude and the US fights wars for its energy security.

Beaf, we've done far worse to the US and I'm yet to see any repercusions for them. You doubt that? I'll start with Angola in the 70s/80s were our actions (the overt support for the MPLA) lead to both the US and South Africa withdrawing their support for UNITA. And how about us outrightly rejecting their military aid in the 80s as we told them that it was an insult to us. Recently, we've kicked against the US pressure for us to abandon OPEC. We outrightly kicked against the invasion of Iraq. And we were instrumental in ensuring that the new US African Command (AFRICOM) never got any basing rights in West Africa. Most of these occured during the tenure of the Neo-con Rebublicans, and the responds/repercussions? NOTHING/ZILCH/NADA. The US actually withdrew military aid briefly, and we said/did absolutely nothing (afterall, it was their money). The same US govt. came back to Nigeria with their own feets pledging more aid, and this was followed by the visit of George Bush (jnr) to Nigeria.


With regards to the US fighting another war, they should try it. That's if they fully want to wreck their economy. The current operations in Iraq and Afghanistan are draining the country bigtime financial-wise, with the conflict in Afghanistan escalating to a whole new scale. Just watch the news and you'll see that US/NATO-ISAF soldiers are killed on almost a daily basis now, even with the arrival of more US marines in the country. And you seem to have forgotten that the defeat dealt on them in Mogadishu (Somalia) still haunts them. That's why the US chose not to intervene in Rwanda, and that's the very same reason US marines stationed off the coast were not deployed in Monrovia (Liberia) till soldiers of the Nigeria Army were deployed to stop the fighting.

So yes, I think we'll be very fine.

It's because of actions similiar to  that of these inventors that countries have been lifted from poverty to greatness, from nothing to economic and military powers. Look at the lives of great inventors and revolutionaries and you will see that they faced fools like THOR and the rest. But they prevailed lifted millions of people from nothing.

On the APC's design itself, I totally have to commend these Nigerian inventors. Anyone that follows the trends in the current battlefield faced by the US and the UK in Afghanistan and Iraq will see that improvised explosive devices (IEDs) accounts for most of the deaths of US, British and Canadian servicemen, along with a host of other countries that serve in both countries. The same problem is also being faced by the Pakistani military as they battle the Taliban on their own turf in the tribal lands of Pakistan. This Nigerian design takes all this into consideration. It is definitely not as sophisticated as the Isreali Wolf,the Buffalo MRAP designed by US, or the RG-31 Nyala (just to name a few), but it is definitely a step in the right direction. And we can all see that the APC has a retractable survellance system, making it extremely usefull as both and observation platform and a Command-&-Control Vehicle that can be used in both law enforcement and military situations. All we have to do is encourage and support these guys, refine the design, and I'm sure it will be ready for Police Force and military, and also exports to other countries, thus creating an additional source of income for the nation.


As for Thor, what have you invented? And what have you contributed to your nation? Or are you there in  the UK were you get to do your 6-5pm job washing plates and toilets?

Fhemmmy:
Yes, she lied, yes, she fumbled, however, does that excuses her from being able to tell the truth when she see a lie, is that a reason why she shd nto be able to tell that our lack of good leadership has made a nation with all she needs at the bottom of the ladder?
Let us be real and stop all these nonsense of hatred of facts and truth, we all Nigerians and we know that our leaders has messed up Nigeria.

She fumbled, riiiiight, Anyway, it's no news that we have a long way to go in terms of anti-corruption and good governance. The govt. has known that for a VERY LONG time as its been drummed by Nigerians and the media. But no one in his/her right mind will tolerate the breach of diplomatic protocol by the HC. Nigeria is not one of the states in the US were she can just breeze in and throw protocols into the wind. The funny thing about those that posters here claim to be sycophants (the ones that got messed up by the US embassy) were actually members of the Nigerian diplomatic corps (the Federal Ministry of Foreign Affairs) and top religious leaders of the groups affected by the resent attacks in the northern region of the country. If we really wanted to be harsh, we would have told her to keep walking i.e. bypass Nigeria and head straight to Liberia, and the US will not do JACK. She is not the first top US govt official to be here, and she will definitely not be the last. So please, enough of the complaints

LOL!! Funny enough, HC was the very same person that lied about her visit to Kosovo when she claimed that she arrived under a hail of gunfire. Now the very same liar has come to preach to us. Hmmm, talk of pot calling kettle black. And I wonder when she's going to take the same preaching to Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, etc. You know, those same non-democratic govt that the US continues to prop.

The CBN is a regulatory body and has absolutely no right to sack any CEO. That's unless u're trying to tell me that it owns controlling shares & sit on the boards of these banks. That will not make it impartial. Only the board of directors of these banks can do that.

I am totally dissappointed with most of the posters here. Your fellow countrymen design a prototype apc, a vehicle designed to save lives, and a product that could creat job opportunities. Yet you idiots mock their handiwork. What have you idiots contributed to country? And why don't u go and make your own apc? Let's see how you fair.

And if I may add, list any sub-saharan african country that has designed and produced its own vehicle, then get back to me.

It's because of morons like u that nigeria stagnates. Stay there and laugh @ ur fellow nigerian. And u wonder why other countries look down on us. Bloody fools.